'Keep thinking about that': Eddie's ONE great regret in WC shambles and sliding doors moment that cost QF place

By Tony Harper / Editor

SAINT ETIENNE – Wallabies coach Eddie Jones says he’s to blame for the double injury blow that rocked the team before the loss to Fiji and from which they never recovered.

The Wallabies had three days off after beating Portugal to end their pool campaign and have been back in training at Saint Etienne. Thursday’s session was energetic and upbeat and Jones – used to big crowds – spoke to just five reporters, less than a quarter of the travelling pack that usually turned up for the Wallabies’ team announcements throughout the campaign.

Reflecting on the likely exit – with Portugal needing a massive upset against Fiji to see the Wallabies continue – the coach said the injuries of his two star forwards – Taniela Tupou and Will Skelton – rather than his squad selection based on youth, had cost the team significantly.

He also bemoaned a moment in the Fiji game where rookie fly-half Carter Gordon failed to come and claim a high kick and Fiji ran away to score as a potential turning point.

“The biggest loss we had in this tournament was losing Taniela and Will in one session and I blame myself for that. Just didn’t get it right, the session,” said Jones, although a team spokesman later clarified the pair were injured on different days in the same week leading into the Fiji match.

Eddie Jones says his only regret during the Wallabies’ 2023 World Cup campaign is the training sessions throughout the week that led to injuries to Taniela Tupou and Will Skelton. (Photo by Chris Hyde/Getty Images)

Neither have played since and trained together apart from the rest of the squad on Thursday.

“So yeah, I would have changed that definitely. It’s just, you never know with injuries, but could we have done it a little bit differently? I keep thinking about that, to minimise the risk of injury,” Jones said.

“And there’s just an order of training and the way you train. I’ll hold my hand up, mate.”

Jones didn’t want to elaborate further on specifics of the sessions, but he was defended by Skelton, who interjected.

“If you look back on a week that we’ve had or that we’ve had in the past, you can look at anything. If I had a half an hour more sleep, if I drank a litre more water. I think those things are uncontrollable,” said Skelton.

“Those things happen and that’s rugby. Injuries happen during the week, in games, so who’s to say that I wouldn’t have got injured on the weekend against Fiji.”

But Jones acknowledged the double blow had sent “shockwaves” through the squad. The coach had looked filthy on the day Skelton’s injury was revealed, but kept up a charade that his skipper might play right up until an hour before the kick-off against the Fijians.

“Yeah, but we’ve got to be good enough to cope with that. That definitely was the case,” Jones admitted.

“And with a younger team, that’s always the case. But again, they’re the challenges of being a good team, you know, the world’s best teams cope with that, they get on with it and we’re not quite there yet.

“That’s the challenge for us, to fill that gap to be able to cope with those situations. Anyone drops out we’re right to go.”

Jones defended the team’s strength and conditioning program despite a high level of injuries. As well as the loss of Tupou and Skelton the Wallabies have lost Gordon, Nick Frost and Max Jorgensen to injury.

“I think our S&C has been first-class,” said Jones. “If you look at the objective data at the moment of our injury rate compared to previous Wallaby teams, I think it sits fairly favourable.”

Jones has continued to push talk of his future down the road, saying he remains committed but expects a Rugby Australia review of the World Cup performance in November.

“I’m not worried about my career mate. It’s more about are we moving to a better position? And I think we are,” Jones said.

“The scoreboard doesn’t say that but I think we are and I’m sure most of the players would agree with that.

“Maybe not all of them, but I’m sure a majority of players would agree with that and that’s all we can do. So therefore I can not sit back comfortably and say I’ve done as good as I could – but I don’t feel any personal distress about it.

“This is part of the job and at some stage when you’re changing a team, someone has to endure this. Now it doesn’t need to be as bad as that because there’s a couple of games we should have won that we’ve lost and there are other games that we probably weren’t good enough to win.

Will Skelton looks on as he applauds fans, whilst wearing a protective boot on his left foot after injuring his calf, after the Rugby World Cup France 2023 match against Fiji at Stade Geoffroy-Guichard on September 17, 2023. (Photo by Chris Hyde/Getty Images)

“That’s the reality of it and I accept all of that.”

Jones has repeatedly defended his decision to go with a youthful team and reject the experience of some big name players.

In the case of some, there is a school of thought that he has hampered rather than accelerated some careers.

“I made the decision when I came in, I assessed the playing pool and said we need to make a change. And it was high risk. We catch one kick against Fiji and maybe we’re sitting here already qualified for the quarterfinal,” said Jones.

“They’re the small things that happened that can sometimes affect your obvious progress, but this team is going to be a good team.

“We need one or two quality players to add to it, we’re not the finished product yet but … you’re talking about 8 or 10 [young] players that have the potential to be really good Test players and now you’re talking about a team. Then you add in a few experienced players like Will, Richie Arnold, a couple of hard guys like [Samu] Kerevi and you get those guys back to their best, that’s a team that can do really well.”

Australaia’s next campaign is against Wales in mid 2024 – and Jones is unsure if he will be at the helm.

“I’ve signed the contract and I’ll do the review and then it’s up to others to decide,” Jones said. “I just stand by the fact that I take full responsibility. I feel like I’ve given the team the opportunity to get better. The results don’t show that. But I think we are.”

Eddie Jones says the Wallabies have a young side that can be a force going forward, but believes Rugby Australia must appoint a high performance manager to look after “tomorrow”. (Photo by Warren Little/Getty Images)

But what changes are required before then?

“It’s just a continuation of what we’re doing, you know, work hard, the focus on developing the Australian style of rugby, players to take more individual responsibility, the leadership group to keep growing. And in nine months time, it will be a different team,” Jones said.

Jones said he had many thoughts on the direction of the game in Australia, and would be involved in the discussions.

It has been mooted that a role “upstairs” as a performance director might suit him but Jones said he had “zero” interest in that type of role.

“Because I’m not an administrator, like I love being out on the pitch,” said Jones. “I love the game. I don’t love politics. I’m not a politician at all. Never have been, never will be.”

Rugby Australia is trying to secure a high performance manager by the end of the year. The Roar understands RA has interviewed as many as five candidates, and Jones believes the role is essential.

“There’s a need for someone to be looking after tomorrow. That’s really important,” said Jones.

“The national coach looks after today but there’s a need for someone to be strategic about planning what’s needed for Australian rugby to be sustainably successful, and that’s where you need a high performance director. What role he has with the national team is something that needs to be discussed, but definitely someone absolutely responsible for what’s happening tomorrow is absolutely vital.”

Jones believes Europe has “taken off” beyond the levels of professionalism in Australia.

“The intellect involved in the game’s growing considerably and and we’ve trailed off a little bit in that area and we need to pick it up,” said Jones. “And there’s no reason why we can’t.”

There has been plenty of noise about RA’s targeting of NRL players – with Joseph Suaalii on the way, and bitterness over the broken down pursuit of Angus Crichton.

Jones said RA need to “do both” – recruit from outside and develop their own stars.

“You need to shop at David Jones and you still need to shop at Woolworths, ” Jones said. “You need to do both because if you always shop at David Jones you run out of money pretty quickly, right?

“You’ve got to be producing at the bottom end and then cherry picking at the top end.

“And there might be one or two rugby league players that have the hunger to want to play rugby that could make a hell of a difference. Historically, we’ve seen that that has happened. you know, so there’s no reason why in the future that couldn’t happen as well.”

As for his coaching staff, their futures are either determined or will be decided in next month’s review.

So far only Neal Hatley has expressed in continuing with the Wallabies. Dan Palmer is off to Leicester, Jason Ryles is heading to Melbourne Storm and Pierre-Henry Broncan will be staying in France. Brett Hodgson has yet to comment.

“When we came in here [it was] with the understanding that it was a nine-month job, see what we can do and then everyone will sit down and have a look at what we’ve done, where we want to go and make a decision then about what we need going forward,” Jones said.

“There’ll be some sort of Rugby Australia review in November, I believe, so at the end of that, that will be the opportunity to move forward.”

The Crowd Says:

2023-10-14T07:31:40+00:00

Check-side for the boundary

Roar Rookie


Yes, I was tongue in cheek... Sorry

2023-10-09T07:08:10+00:00

Good Game

Roar Rookie


Things are a bit f'd right now but if they f correctly next time, in 9 months there will more kids up for selection.

2023-10-09T00:48:10+00:00

Sofa Coach

Roar Rookie


We don't know what Quade did or didn't do, Oz, but yes, the clear out has been unabashed (and if only his coaching set up had produced such effective clear out at the breakdown, they might have had a chance!). Apparently because those experienced discards were all losers that "we're moving on from, mate"- we needed to instil an unscathed mentality didn't you know? Good see Eddie now walk his talk, take "full responsibility" for his failure and resign without draining RA's now barren coffers any further. Certainly we'll need ever cent now- afterall, what sponsors or broadcast deals is that sh1tshow going to secure?

2023-10-08T22:18:06+00:00

Go you good thing

Roar Rookie


Can agree whistleblower I think you’re watching the wrong game. Sides one solo run that Wright got caught. You had a blinder. sure it’s gonna be down a level or two and they have been together for seven weeks but the Wallabies also played a number of big games coming in and if they had kept some of these boys it would’ve gelled so that’s all on Eddie I’m afraid. Sides one solo run that Wright got caught. You had a blinder. Feel like you’re a bit out of touch with your comments regarding Eddie and rugby Australia mate

2023-10-08T21:57:06+00:00

Plowdog

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"I’m not a politician at all. Never have been, never will be.” Said Eddie. Seriously?

2023-10-08T13:05:39+00:00

Derek Murray

Roar Rookie


Do we still think that was the reason? It was an excuse. He cleared out any senior coach or player likely to question his genius. Quade obviously spoke his mind.

2023-10-08T11:47:29+00:00

whistleblower (retired)

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I was excited when I saw the link in your comment but came away disappointed after watching it. Wright and Wilson made it clear why they were not picked along with Swinton. The team had a good win against Quins but given they had been together for 7 weeks and playing a club team the result was not unexpected. Debreczeni was ordinary; Uru, Pietsch, Ryan Lonergan played well but not to the extent that they should have displaced any of the RWC squad. The RWC squad are playing opposition with a more significant skill level. Daugunu was interesting and good at #12; very Danty like.

2023-10-08T09:57:46+00:00

Check-side for the boundary

Roar Rookie


It's fair enough ! . Quade dropped the ball once and got dropped mercilessly !

2023-10-08T07:54:07+00:00

Gkl

Roar Rookie


EJ’s picks the young guns and now blames the young guns. What’s the logic here? :laughing:

2023-10-08T05:12:12+00:00

Go you good thing

Roar Rookie


Open letter … Hey Eddie, did you happen to watch the Barbarians vs harlequins – at least 8 + of your dropped wallabies were all outstanding! Lonergan x 2, Wright, Pietsch, ikitau, Wilson, Daugunu , Debreczeni etc. Free running, fast, strong, in sync, excellent in defence, great under the high ball , angles galore, too many off loads to remember and a whole lot of fun to watch. …Now that’s how to play rugby “mate”. Can you put a phone call into to these players on your return to Australia next week and beg them to come back. In case you missed it here’s the link https://www.Quinn’s.co.uk/video/harl

2023-10-08T02:11:51+00:00

Utiku Old Boy

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OO - Your answer indicates you miss the important issues related to EJ. He over-promised and under-delivered. Then, being exposed, he blamed the players he selected and acts like he is being blamed for ridiculing previous efforts (Dave Rennie and his Oz coaching team), selecting a team that was going to "win 2023 RWC". In this case, the coach IS to blame.

2023-10-08T02:05:37+00:00

Ken Catchpole's Other Leg

Roar Guru


Better than Romania? And all those negative Nellies out there will be trying to say that that sort of stat is unacceptable.

2023-10-07T22:09:56+00:00

Just Nuisance

Roar Rookie


Thats the most perplexing thing about Jones decision to discard experience for youth..For someone so experienced at World Cups he cannot not have known just how valuable experience is ..In fact Erasmus places it at the very top of his priority list and has in fact said as much..

2023-10-07T22:02:27+00:00

Kashmir Pete

Roar Guru


Concur on wake up point. As proud as I felt of the semi final win against Wales in 2015, I felt it meant the end result (making final) masked, all the underlying issues, which we appear to concur about. Cheers KP

2023-10-07T21:59:13+00:00

Kashmir Pete

Roar Guru


:thumbup:

2023-10-07T21:55:36+00:00

inyo52959178

Roar Rookie


Eddie selected him..dropped Lolesio and Cooper..Foley..they would have guided Gordan and helped his development. Eddie couldn't and then publicly criticised him for poor performance. Snake Oil salesman ...

2023-10-07T21:53:37+00:00

Bliksem

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Rassie is not an egomaniac. Not at all. Innovative and competitive yes that he is.

2023-10-07T21:51:07+00:00

inyo52959178

Roar Rookie


He is not a Gardner..he is a destroyer..a blight in the Garden.

2023-10-07T21:48:48+00:00

inyo52959178

Roar Rookie


RA don't want non Aussies mate..and why would Nucifora want to work for them?

2023-10-07T21:16:44+00:00

Objective Observer

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I have nothing to do with RA or the coaches. I accept EJ got it wrong, a different approach may have seen us get out of the pool but I think it’s good to have the wake up call of real failure. It forces RA to accept that. We all want the same outcome, a really strong Wallaby set up, winning some silverware.

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