'Got to be a good guitar player': Outgoing Japan coach's not-so-subtle message to JFRU amidst Eddie links

By Christy Doran / Editor

NANTES – As Michael Cheika’s Los Pumas progressed through to the final eight for the first time since 2015, outgoing Brave Blossoms coach Jamie Joseph said Japanese rugby needs to adapt or fall behind.

Joseph, who will return to the Highlanders after eight years in charge of the Brave Blossoms, also delivered a not-so-subtle message to the Japan Rugby Football Union about who his successor should be.

Asked by The Roar whether he had an opinion over who should take over from him, Joseph said his successor needed to be able to bring together several cultures and added that the JFRU shouldn’t look past his own coaching team.

“What I will say is that my coaching team are highly experienced and very capable, and the one thing I’ll say is coaching in Japan isn’t the same as coaching in New Zealand or Australia or England, there’s a cultural aspect that you need to be aware of,” Joseph said.

“Players think differently, and the game of rugby is consistent but the players coming in, particularly from our team, I think there’s about eight or nine different cultures in terms of where they’re coming from, so the coach has got to be a good guitar player.”

Jamie Joseph’s tenure as Japan coach is over after going down to Argentina at the Stade de la Beaujoire on October 08, 2023 in Nantes. (Photo by David Rogers/Getty Images)

Joining Joseph in France was former All Blacks head coach and England assistant John Mitchell, his long-time right-hand man Tony Brown as well as Scott Hansen and Shin Hasegawa.

But as reports linked Wallabies coach Eddie Jones to a possible return to the Japanese head coach, Joseph’s pointed message that the next coach had to be a “guitar player” also seemed a gentle push for New Zealand compatriot Dave Rennie, who recently joined Kobe following a three-year stint with Australia that brutally ended in January.

Indeed, Rennie has always been thought of as someone who can bring together a group of players.

While his tenure with the Wallabies ended abruptly, the playing group firmly respected him.

Rennie’s ability with the guitar and desire to bring together a team through lyrics is also well known.

Jamie Joseph appeared to softly advocate for his New Zealand compatriot Dave Rennie to be considered for the Japanese coaching role. (Photo by Harry Trump/Getty Images)

Regardless of who takes over from him, Joseph, whose Japanese side went down 39-27 to Argentina to miss the World Cup quarter-finals, said it was essential that not only the national team plays more, but domestically its players are tested more rigorously at home and away.

“I think it’s the most important, and I think I could say it on behalf of all two-tier teams, that they’re quality rugby players but we can’t get quality time to develop those quality rugby players to play games like we witnessed today,” Joseph said.

“This year, we played 10 tough games of rugby and now we’re starting to play to our potential.”

Joseph added that the local leagues, which include three divisions, weren’t doing enough to prepare its rising talent for international rugby and suggested a return to Super Rugby Pacific would be advantageous.

“In most cases our second and third-best players in Japan aren’t getting rugby, so something needs to be done about that,” he said.

“On top of that, we need to have a level of rugby of professional intensity where the players can get day-to-day rugby, tour, get used to different countries, different types of rugby.

“You play South Africa and they play a different way, you play Argentina and it’s a different type of footy, and I think those kinds of experiences, which we had with the Sunwovles [previously in Super Rugby], is a possible solution.”

Japan pushed Michael Cheika’s Pumas for 68 minutes before Mateo Carreras’s third try ensured they would return to the quarterfinals for the first time since 2015.

After Japan’s replacement back Jone Naikabula touched down in the 65th minute to cut the deficit to 29-27, it took until Carreras’ third try three minutes later for Los Pumas to land the crucial blow. Then came the nail in the coffin, as Nicolas Sanchez converted to extend the margin out beyond a converted try.

Sanchez then put the game to bed when he landed a long-range penalty to seal a 39-27 victory in one of the most thrilling matches in the World Cup to date.

Emiliano Boffelli celebrates after scoring his team’s fourth try against Kapan at Stade de la Beaujoire on October 08, 2023 in Nantes. (Photo by David Rogers/Getty Images)

The 12-point victory ensured they would qualify for the knockout stages 16 years after Argentina was one of the great surprise packages in France by defeating Les Bleus to take home the bronze medal.

But if they are to go deep over the next month in France, they will have to do it without their inspirational back-rower Pablo Matera, who limped off in agony in the first half with a hamstring injury and was on crutches at full-time.

Cheika all but confirmed the star’s World Cup campaign was over ahead of their quarter-final against Warren Gatland’s Wales in Marseille.

“It doesn’t look good, I’d say,” Cheika said.

“It’s a hamstring injury definitely and by the look of him now, I’d say definitely it (the tournament) would be over. But you know, it’s never over until it is, so we’ll see what happens.”

The Crowd Says:

2023-10-10T18:19:43+00:00

Drez

Roar Rookie


I'm a firm believer that all that damage To Australian rugby was done 20 years ago, Jones and McLellan - whilst unfortunately appearing totally inept - are at the helm when RA is in its death throes. What I can see, is at least they are making an attempt to get new blood into the big squad. If they are to be taken seriously beyond this then we need to see solid investments back in to club and sub division rugby this year. I'm not privvy to what goes on behind the closed doors, but this could be the beginning of the reality of what many Australian rugby fans have been after for years, one step backwards 2 steps forward. If Indeed there is a consideration for growth in Australian rugby then this world cup campaign is the beginning of that journey. I sincerely hope so.

2023-10-09T18:57:10+00:00

KTinHK

Roar Pro


Not well versed in the use of the word versed.

2023-10-09T18:52:30+00:00

KTinHK

Roar Pro


Jamie Joseph is obviously keen for his mates to get the job, which is probably the highest paid in world rugby.

2023-10-09T12:34:18+00:00

Northandsouth

Roar Rookie


I disagree. I have every faith Eddie would not listen to all players of all backgrounds equally.

2023-10-09T11:48:23+00:00

crumbfingers

Roar Rookie


100% We had a prime minister that literally made a career of failing up. It was Scomo if it wasn’t obvious

2023-10-09T09:31:16+00:00

Muzzo

Roar Rookie


From what's known, he'll, Jamie, will be back in action, as from what iv'e heard Tony will be back also. There's no doubt we have some emerging talent in & around Otago, ATM, & possibly these fellas can get them up again.

2023-10-09T08:46:17+00:00

CW Moss

Roar Rookie


I don’t think Eddie is a manager of a diverse culture :rugby: :boxing:

2023-10-09T08:08:53+00:00

AgainAgain

Roar Rookie


Yeah, I think that was the most exciting thing I got from this article. Is he going to be involved with the Highlanders? He has taken them from the cellar before, will he do it again? I hope so for NZ rugby’s sake. Maybe Razor brings him in as an assitant? To be honest I don’t mind what he does, but hopefully he still wants to remain invloved.

2023-10-09T05:17:17+00:00

Don M

Roar Rookie


No. Rennie, Marinos, McKellar and the Lord are having the last laugh.

2023-10-09T05:15:56+00:00

Don M

Roar Rookie


Yes East Coast. This is why Eddie staying on is untenable. RA will be seen as giving the stink finger to every fan of sound mind who predicted this debacle. If we have learned one thing from this - the crowd is smarter than Eddie, Hamish and his compliment board.

2023-10-09T04:35:40+00:00

Muzzo

Roar Rookie


Yep back to Otepoti Jamie, as not only is the whanau in wait but the Landers to straighten out!

2023-10-09T04:33:42+00:00

Muzzo

Roar Rookie


It’s the same in Europe as well OB with what has been shown at this current RWC!

2023-10-09T03:15:27+00:00

Old Bugger

Roar Rookie


He does Virgil but, whether he has a strong understanding and affinity with a team of multi-cultural backgrounds, then that's a challenge on its own....mind you, having said that, nothing has changed for the Blossoms from 2015 to 2023. They are still using players from overseas, to boost their own club/franchise competition and, the national squad.

2023-10-09T02:33:33+00:00

MalBreakaway

Roar Rookie


A nice day dream : Dave Rennie still being hackled by his haters, wallabies looking solid as they progress to the Next round RWC 2023 having built well on 2022 development, Dan Mckellar confirmed as next Wallabies coach post RWC. Aussie Rugby look to develop collective quality coaching structures from grass roots through to Wallabies. Corporate funding confirmed and growing through to RWC 2027. Hamish Mclennan sacked due to a conflict of interest in sordid trist with ex England coach Eddie Jones and a deceased Rugby League legend corpse.

2023-10-08T22:16:19+00:00

Kashmir Pete

Roar Guru


Dave Rennie !!! Dave Rennie !!! Dave Rennie !!! Cheers KP

2023-10-08T21:41:04+00:00

Tom G

Roar Rookie


And he who laughs last etc

2023-10-08T21:21:00+00:00

JD Kiwi

Roar Rookie


Five years rule is killing them

2023-10-08T20:19:02+00:00

Tom G

Roar Rookie


Hamster is the poster boy for failing upwards

2023-10-08T19:49:46+00:00

wigster

Roar Rookie


And he just sold his mansion for 17 MIL

2023-10-08T19:34:54+00:00

East Coast Aces

Roar Rookie


you're kidding right? The corporate world is filled with people who have failed up. Hamish McLennan has failed almost everywhere and continues to get gigs outside of rugby as well as appearing rock solid as exec chairman of RA

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