Violence is not 'passion': Wanderers fans chuck a wobbly again... why is it always them?

By Stuart Thomas / Expert

I have never raised my hand and struck another human being. I’d like to think I never will.

Should I do so, I would be nothing but a thug, a brute, a Neanderthal and a very tiny man inside the body of a slightly bigger one; pretty much like the Western Sydney Wanderers fans who, once again, have played the victim despite becoming involved in another ugly A-League incident at CommBank Stadium in their Round 19 loss to Sydney FC.

On what should have been a night of celebration of what continues to grow as a successful A-League season, the treatment of a Wanderer fan due to what has been claimed to be an unauthorised banner, led to a walkout of the active supporter group the Red and Black Block.

Soon after, a number of fans turned violent in the bowels of the stadium as soon as the police began to apply law and order. The footage of the incident is disturbing to watch, whilst being cannon fodder for the commercial outlets around the country awaiting another ‘soccer’ story that can be used to reinforce a rather sickly stereotype.

Many a tough bloke out there will speak of schoolyard fights, standing up to bullies, defending their or someone else’s honour, and claim that physical aggression is appropriate in certain circumstances. Yet the language of violence is one spoken only by those without the intellectual tools to manage situations in a calm and fair-minded manner.

There is simply no excuse for violence, no matter how aggrieved one might feel.

Violence against women and in domestic relationships is unquestionably abhorrent, yet it should be seen as so in any social circumstance. Any man who chose to belt me would be effectively hitting a weak and defenceless person, one without a chance of defending himself against a skilled puncher, as he would also be doing if his violence was directed at a female partner.

Why I, or a police officer, are any different is beyond me.

I’m a wimp when it comes to fighting but a mighty thinker, writer and motivator and I’ll bet some of the police officers involved in the violence at CommBank on the weekend are probably the same, and were as scared as they have ever been when a few thugs in the RBB decided to go at them physically.

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An important point always needs to be made when such incidents occur.

The police did not physically assault, punch and/or threaten to harm the person they were attempting to remove from the ground. They may have been firm and decisive, yet brutality from police officers is not common and is often questioned in the courts given the context of the situation.

Frankly, I’d argue the general view of police officers in such circumstances is often cynical and usually emanates from people who have been involved in a dust-up or two with the law over the years. For most of us, the coppers do a ripping job.

Sure, fans were frustrated and felt that the removal was unjust. Yet I would leave the ground peacefully, contract legal advice and get myself on mainstream radio and television the following morning to expose what I felt had been an injustice.

Sadly, I’d probably not be invited thanks to a distinct lack of interest from the networks and syndicated programmes, had there not been click-bait brawl footage to show on their socials and the opportunity to heave the boot into football for the umpteenth time.

However, you see my point.

I’m a pacifist, as are the Brisbane Roar fans who took appropriate umbrage at the treatment they received on the weekend from what looked like a police presence that had been amped up for a fight, that members of Brisbane Roar’s fan base never wanted and refused to engage in.

Which incident will produce the most positive result for football? Undoubtedly Brisbane, where the people being effectively treated in a manner that implied they had done something wrong when they hadn’t, kept the peace and protested with some class and poignancy.

The Wanderers fans throughout their history appear to have little awareness of either and when caught in a tense situation, seem to turn to violence against the authorities, regardless of where the actual blame could be laid in the circumstances.

No doubt police around the country have something of a misunderstanding of football fandom and sometimes cross the line in terms of keeping the peace inside and outside the stadiums. Yet, how that justifies running at constables and swinging in fury is simply beyond me.

Sadly, too many football fans think the game is all about them. Buy your ticket, sit with your family, stop swearing and sticking your fingers up, follow the rules, get things authorised and enjoy the game.

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Sing a nice song or two and shake hands with fans of the winners when the match is over. Football is a better game when it is played like that and not when violence is hidden behind the word passion.

The Crowd Says:

2024-03-08T23:02:20+00:00

Beach

Roar Rookie


Have to say, Paddy, that there is some pretty silly stereotyping ad over generalising in your post. You have a point, but countering with misinformation does not help you.

2024-03-08T22:56:44+00:00

Beach

Roar Rookie


"a mighty thinker, writer, and motivator" No disrespect, a healthy ego is all very well but this was perhaps lacking in perspective.

2024-03-08T02:37:53+00:00

matth

Roar Guru


Not at all. I never said the police action was right (or wrong), I just find it hard to believe we have a national conspiracy on the part of state based law enforcement

2024-03-07T00:57:54+00:00

chris1

Roar Rookie


FF it's pointless trying to convince those that sit on the sidelines that something isn't just or fair. When it's not happening to you, then it doesn't exist nor is it as bad as you make out.

2024-03-07T00:56:57+00:00

Garry

Roar Rookie


you leave us old whiite so and sos alone ! :laughing: :crying:

2024-03-07T00:53:34+00:00

chris1

Roar Rookie


Yes exactly Grem. If that is what is making it to the courts in England I hope they have a lot of courts. Joke.

2024-03-07T00:28:12+00:00

Garry

Roar Rookie


Decided to bite here !! was avoiding this subject as its mainly she said he saidi BUT I think you both have claims in that its poorly planned partly because the police tar soccer with a bad brush ..NO conspiracy tho more an indirect result of their bias.

2024-03-07T00:21:37+00:00

Football Fan

Roar Rookie


LOL, your explanation is less likely than mine because if it was incompetence on the part of the police whether that be in the planning or execution then that would happen in all other sports and events like concerts etc..but it doesn't. They simply WANT to crack down on football support because it's different to what they see in their provincial sports, the sports that they most likely support and follow. I'm betting the NSW Chief of police doesn't follow Aleague football or football of any sort.

2024-03-06T23:58:43+00:00

Denzo

Roar Rookie


The author needs to offer an apology for this article. Everybody would call this gaslighting the RBB.

2024-03-06T23:26:16+00:00

matth

Roar Guru


The most obvious explanation is usually right and when there is a choice between a coordinated malicious conspiracy and plain old incompetence, incompetence is the answer 99% of the time. So my working theory is a poorly planned and executed police presence and overreaction.

2024-03-06T23:21:30+00:00

AR

Roar Rookie


"The Police, as evidenced by videos, were physically and verbally intimidating young fans as they were walking and peacefully to the stadium." I haven't seen those videos. The videos I've seen shows a large crowd of (mostly) men, many in balaclavas and face scarves, chanting and setting off flares in public streets as they march to the stadium. It's isn't a peace walk. It's designed - by its very purpose - to be unifying and loud and intimidating. That's the whole point, according to the RBB. Police are required to be there. That's their job. And occasionally, if they have to tell a few of them to pull their heads in (and they absolutely do), than that's their job as well. Personally, I think its a waste of public resources, but that's another matter.

2024-03-06T21:42:50+00:00

Brett Loder

Roar Rookie


No Man hits a Woman! The Police were probably upset they weren't allowed to march and maybe took it out on Outspoken People. I only sat with the RBB on away games, and always had an unbelievable night out. There are two sides to every story, jumping to conclusions before knowing all the facts only leads to misrepresentation of groups of people or an individual. Being a Pacifist is all well and good...but if in a corner, Fight or Flight?

2024-03-06T19:39:17+00:00

Grem

Roar Rookie


Chris1 - I just saw Sam Kerr’s words. You and I better be careful because we label our politicians and media people as old white so and sos. We could have a 2 year jail sentence coming up!

2024-03-06T12:30:57+00:00

Brainstrust

Roar Rookie


In peak hour? Cronulla is hardly the ideal example for public transport. Penrith to the City on an express service not thats what I call good before they built the new M4 link it was half the time of driving minimum.

2024-03-06T11:44:43+00:00

Kitwally

Roar Rookie


Well, you’ve said Sydney is a “large city” and whilst it may not have the economic relevance of those other cities, it does have economic relevance in Australia. And the public transport is abysmal.

2024-03-06T11:36:27+00:00

Lord Ted Said

Roar Rookie


Probs because lebs have guns and knives?

2024-03-06T11:34:00+00:00

Lord Ted Said

Roar Rookie


50 minutes on the train? Would that be because Cronulla is at the southernmost extremity of a large city. Around which a train line has to be built around the waterways that make it such a great city. Shanghai, give me a break. London and Tokyo are global cities that have public transport commensurate with their economic relevance. BTW if you could catch a fictional train from Richmond to Cronulla you would find that, in Japan, you would be in Osaka! No country town…

AUTHOR

2024-03-06T11:25:23+00:00

Stuart Thomas

Expert


Or people prepared to put their names to things.

2024-03-06T11:21:27+00:00

Lord Ted Said

Roar Rookie


Irony? Or patronising? Or presumptuousness? It’s all too much for me. Must be for mighty thinkers with mighty blinkers.

2024-03-06T11:15:44+00:00

Brainstrust

Roar Rookie


If you look at the article they did a photo which had red wig steve on one side , the RBB guy with red wig steve in the middle, and then the RBB guy at the game with young hools either side of him, one in particular has got the hood and face mask.

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