Five talking points from England vs All Blacks

By Daniel Szabo / Roar Guru

England has pulled off a stunning upset in the first semi-final of the 2019 Rugby World Cup by defeating tournament favourites the All Blacks 19 points to 7, taking the world number one ranking and knocking them out of the competition in the process.

England showed that they’d come to play early, with Manu Tuilagi scoring the first try of the game just over a minute into the contest.

The All Blacks had plenty to do in defence and held their opponents out for long periods of time. But at the end of the day, the English were too strong with four penalty goals to George Ford and the early try to Tuilagi proving too much for New Zealand to overcome.

Here are five talking points from the game.

England fire up with unique Haka response
It’s always special to witness the New Zealand players perform their traditional war dance the Haka before games.

But England showed that they were ready to fight fire with fire, taking the unusual step of facing the Haka in a V shape rather than in a straight line, presumably in order to increase the intensity of the confrontation.

Protests from the match officials seemingly fell on deaf ears, with up to three England players crossing over halfway to get in the faces of the All Blacks.

It was great theatre, and it will be interesting to see if this technique is used again in future by England or other teams.

The All Blacks are human
The Wallabies proved it in Bledisloe Cup Game 1 earlier in the year. And now the English have proven again – the All Blacks are in fact, only human.

The All Blacks have always been a force in international rugby. They’ve held the Bledisloe Cup for almost 20 years, and they are the defending World Champions for the last two tournaments.

Even when they weren’t winning World Cups, New Zealand would still go into most tournaments as raging hot favourites – a testament to how well they had played in the four years leading up to tournaments.

The All Blacks have built up this incredible track record over the last two World Cup cycles. It’s safe to say though that after losses to both Australia and now England in the same calendar year, that aura has decreased somewhat.

They’re still a force in world rugby – but this loss has definitely brought them back to the pack a bit.

England one step closer to completing massive World Cup turnaround
Not only does this win see England to their first World Cup final since 2007 when they lost to South Africa, but it caps a remarkable turnaround from where they were this time four years ago…nearly.

At the end of the 2015 Rugby World Cup England were in disarray. In what was a first for English rugby, the team had sensationally failed to qualify for the quarter-finals – at their home tournament no less.

Rugby league convert Sam Burgess was public enemy number one in England, and coach Stuart Lancaster was on his way out the door. Considering this, it’s truly remarkable to think that in four years, Eddie Jones has taken this England side from failing to qualify for the quarter-finals to the final.

(Photo by Craig Mercer/MB Media/Getty Images)

But he certainly won’t be satisfied with that turnaround – he’ll only be satisfied with a win next week.

End of an era for the All Blacks
With coach Steven Hansen ending his tenure at the helm after the World Cup, this loss signals the end of an era for the All Blacks.

Not only will Hansen be departing, but a host of long-serving players including captain Kieran Read, Ben Smith, Sonny Bill Williams and Ryan Crotty are all joining him out the exit door.

It will also be the first time in eight years that the All Blacks won’t be World Champions – that change will take some serious getting used to by the New Zealand public.

Owen Farrell ankle a concern for England
It’s not all sunshine and daisies for England right now. They may have qualified for the final next week, but England fans will not be thrilled about the ankle injury captain Owen Farrell seemed to pick up late in the second half.

After taking the first kick at the goal of the match to convert Tuilagi’s opening try in the second minute, Farrell handed the kicking duties over to flyhalf George Ford in the 39th minute after suffering the injury several minutes earlier. Ford went on to kick four penalties to give his side an unassailable lead.

Farrell managed to stay on for the remainder of the game which was a promising sign. But his involvement in the attack was fairly limited for the rest of the game. He was forced to work a lot in defence, making 15 tackles and missing a game-high of 6.

Coach Jones will be hoping Farrell’s ankle pulls up okay after this game against New Zealand – they absolutely need him there if they are to win the final next week.

What are your thoughts on the game, Roarers? Make sure to let me know in the comments, and make sure you tune in to the coverage of the second semi-final between Wales and South Africa at 7 pm tonight.

The Crowd Says:

2019-10-29T09:22:48+00:00

SandBox

Roar Guru


There, there Jacki. Here’s some haemorrhoid cream. Will help you heal after your loss.

2019-10-29T08:26:12+00:00

Jacko

Guest


hard to fake injury after having your head hit by a dirty dirty prop....Did I mention a dirty prop?

2019-10-29T08:24:27+00:00

Jacko

Guest


Did he? Who hit him 4 times for 4 penalties?...My dog craps in a Sandbox......I think a neighbours cat uses the SANDBOX as well

2019-10-29T08:16:38+00:00

Jacko

Guest


Of the 42 matches between them, New Zealand have won 33 and England 8, whilst one match was drawn. Wikipedia.....

2019-10-29T01:06:38+00:00

Wazbo

Guest


21-12 at the SFS

2019-10-28T23:36:20+00:00

taylorman

Roar Guru


Yeah agree, hunt em down I say! With you on that one!

2019-10-28T23:14:23+00:00

Neil Back

Roar Rookie


And there goes your small island mentality again. Quite the opposite. Outside of the brilliant banter, there's an obvious mutual respect. However, there's obviously no accounting for the odd red neck you find everywhere. Taylorman.

2019-10-28T18:28:47+00:00

taylorman

Roar Guru


No didn't know that, not that I have been paying attention to where you are. Must be frustrating then, being in another country that really, more than us even, doesn't really like England. But there you go... ( and psst like you...I wouldn't wanna live there either). Good on you. Bet you've got a tan now and all!

2019-10-28T13:15:18+00:00

Neil Back

Roar Rookie


I've been on this forum for more than 5 years, and despite countless references and corrections, you still haven't fathomed I not only live here, but I have the passport. How can anyone be this unaware? What nationality passports do you have my friend? By your markers, shouldn't you be on a Kiwi website patting yourself on the back, rather than doing it here all the time? Doesn't interest you? But unlike you, and as much as I often disagree with you, I welcome you here. I would much rather be on a forum containing alternative views, and you should too. However, you can take your small island and even smaller minded mentality, and stick it really deep right up there.

2019-10-28T05:10:56+00:00

Phantom

Roar Rookie


I guess then the answer is no.

2019-10-28T04:48:19+00:00

piru

Roar Rookie


The All Blacks, who rarely come up with an innovation themselves Well, reading the rest of this comment would just waste valuable seconds

2019-10-28T02:32:16+00:00

Tooly

Roar Rookie


The reversed penalty against Whitelock was crucial. The ABs would have been on attack in England’s 25. Sam Cane and SBW or Crotty in the centres.

2019-10-28T01:59:02+00:00

terrykidd

Roar Pro


I kept waiting for Mo'unga and Barrett to attack the gap between Farrell and Tuialagi. Tuialagi kept rushing up out of the defensive line obviously to cut off the wide pass, he was regularly 2-3m in front of Farrell. I felt sure that the ABs must see this and exploit it. But, nothing ..... either it was not seen or they did not know how to exploit it. Otherwise England deserved the win and realistically 40 seconds after the kick off the ABBs were never in it. Farrell though is a grub. Sam Whitelock puts a palm with bugger all force to Farrell's forehead and Farrell goes down like his skull has been split with a battleaxe. Poor show Farrell, you are a better player than that.

2019-10-28T01:48:19+00:00

Highlander

Guest


Lessons for coaches everywhere here Not only well planned but brilliantly executed by England Hansens selections while seeking to be innovative, ultimately weakened the side. Not only benching Cane who has been NZs glue player, but the combos of Reece/Bridge - Mounga/Barrett and ALB/Goodhue while fine in isolation looked rudderless in the face of a 'different picture' from the opposition.

2019-10-28T01:33:12+00:00

FatOldHalfback

Roar Rookie


The English discipline was amazing. All the focus this RWC on high tackles but did England give away one penalty for a high tackle? I don't recall any and that was amazing given their focus on hard tackling.

2019-10-28T01:15:12+00:00

DaveJ

Roar Rookie


Yep, maybe its the improved attacking skills and the game smarts when to mix attack with defence that is key, not just strong defence and breakdown.

2019-10-28T00:55:56+00:00

Davico

Roar Pro


Why does that matter? It's a professional sport.

2019-10-28T00:09:05+00:00

taylorman

Roar Guru


You ‘have to endure’? That’s why you’re here isn’t it? Are we forcing you to log in from 15,000 km away? I mean surely there are many UK rugby forums all patting each other on the back? Doesn’t interest you?

2019-10-28T00:02:20+00:00

Wal

Roar Guru


Different Rule to RL Because he is in front of the Ball he is not allowed to be involved in the play at all. Because he continues to move forward and draws the tackler before being put onside it is considered obstruction regardless of actual effect. Best comparison is the kick with players not allowed to advance until being put onside. The player can be put onside only if: That player immediately retires behind the applicable offside line; or An opposition player carries the ball five metres in any direction; or An opposition player kicks the ball. An offside player may be penalised if that player: Fails to retire without undue delay and benefits from being put onside in a more advantageous position; or Interferes with play; or Moves towards the ball. Sanction: Penalty.

2019-10-27T21:37:01+00:00

OJ

Roar Rookie


But Henry And Hansen provided the emotional stability

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