Super Rugby Round 2: second round syndrome

By Brett McKay / Expert

The panel started the 2020 Super Rugby season in great form and that has us all worried as hell.

Because when you start well, there’s only one way to go, isn’t there? Exactly, up further!

Round 2 looks a bit harder to pick, and that’s how it played out between us, with only two unanimous tips across the seven games, and a number of 3-2 splits as well, which only underlines the tight appearance that this second round takes on paper.

We’re not all going to be happy come Sunday afternoon, that’s for sure.

News
Some of you might have noticed the very late addition of the flash new Super Rugby tipping comp for The Roar last week, and its return just in the nick of time means we no longer need the tipping form from last week and of the last few years. Instead, the busy little hamsters that keep the site running 24/7 will send me the Crowd’s final tips just prior kick-off in the first game based on your collated tips, and we go from there.

And the results *should* update automatically across the weekend, presuming we pay the hamsters enough.

Either way, hook in, because now it does mean your tips count for both yourself and the Crowd. So good luck!

So then, about that great start last week.

LAST WEEK and OVERALL: Geoff, Brett, and the Crowd 6, Nobes, Digger and Harry 5.

Geoff
Tips: Sharks, Brumbies, Chiefs, Blues, Reds, Stormers, Jaguares

A very tough Round 2 for tipsters and teams alike. There will be blood on the streets, just hopefully not outside my place.

I like that the Sharks have a game under their belt already and like less that the Highlanders’ squad this year looks a little light on. One for the visitors.

I’m certain that we’ll see a more combative Rebels this week and they do know how to win in Canberra. But the Brumbies look more advanced and are the safer tip.

(Photo by Mark Metcalfe/Getty Images)

It doesn’t get any easier on Saturday. The Chiefs have struck early injury problems in the front row, but you wouldn’t say that’s where the Crusaders are strongest. Both the Waratahs and Blues are fancied to finish out of the finals, but both showed promise last week. Weather might be a factor too. Blues in a real toss-up.

The Reds look a few points better than the Lions, ditto the Stormers than the Bulls. And it’s very hard to imagine how the silver Hurricanes can get over the impressive Jaguares at Amalfitani.

SURE THING: Elton ‘Beltin’ Jantjies and the Lions will try another tricky switch kick-off against the Reds and, just like last week, fool absolutely nobody.

Brett
Tips: Highlanders, Brumbies, Crusaders, Waratahs, Reds, Stormers, Jaguares

It’s all guesswork about form at home for teams that travelled last week, and about the Highlanders in general, as Tony Brown starts orchestrating the attack that will soon have Kiwis wondering why on earth the board didn’t go harder for Jamie Joeseph and the man in the flat cap.

Brumbies looked slick for 60 minutes and then gave off the impression they weren’t satisfied, but I suspect that’s more about wanting to not lose to the Rebels at all costs. Chiefs were good, but the Crusaders were better. And the Waratahs were okay, which will be more than enough for the Blues.

The Reds back row could have a field day at Ellis Park, and their ball-carriers will be lining up to run at Elton Jantjies as if he was giving away ice cream, while the Stormers at home will have too many points for the Bulls of yesteryear.

And that just leaves the competition-leading Jaguares, who took their sweet time to skin the Lions last week, but when they did, it was at least a quick kill. The Hurricanes will put up more fight, and may have some luck hypnotising their opposition with that spew-fest away strip. And although I’m absolutely here for new ideas in rugby, I don’t think the great game is quite ready for induced nausea. It’s messy, for one thing.

SURE THING: Rounds that look tight are ripe for the upset, and if I’m worried about any one tip in particular, it might just be that Morne Steyn does, in fact, still have more points in his pure titanium foot than we realise. And the Sharks, actually. After years of underwhelming me, I’m already thinking they might be the real deal in 2020.

(Photo by Ashley Vlotman/Gallo Images/Getty Images)

Digger
Tips: Sharks, Brumbies, Crusaders, Waratahs, Reds, Stormers, Hurricanes

The suitably dubbed and often feared ‘Horrorcanes’ showed up last week in Cape Town, failing to fire a shot and earning the ire of plenty, as season 2020 is seemingly consigned to the scrap bin already.

Though the away strip, a design inspired by Picasso’s worst nightmare mixed in with a Ruatoria outhouse design should certainly be recycled and utilised as toilet paper at the local shopping centre, the Hurricanes contributing their part to Greta’s grand plan.

The trap has now been set. Suckers.

It was always the ambition to come away with a 50 per cent tour record and the ruse was twofold: the first to ease the Western Province financial burdens by increasing crowd numbers, with the Hurricanes admirably playing their part in retaining the republic within Super Rugby, and the second to lure the balance of the competition into a false sense of security. All eyes focus elsewhere as the Canes go about their work and the first side to be pounced upon will be the fluent and ballet-like Jaguares, their fast stepping tango about to be flamingoed.

Canes by plenty for the main event in Buenos Aires.

Now for the under-card fights leading up to the main event. The snapper tend to have a nasty habit of travelling well and I will take the punt on them against the clan from the south, while the structured donkeys look far too good for the ruck-averse rebellion.

Far too many outs in the front row in Hamilton so the rebranded over the bell-ringers, while the light blues against the dark blues should provide another hideous away jersey and with both teams likely to disappoint someone somewhere. I will provide the Tah-tahs that opportunity for myself over the travelling Tamaki-Makaurau circus.

I found myself more inspired by the Reds/Maroons/Scarlets than I was by Leo so bananas to be bent in Johannesburg, while the Stormers will overdose on dairy products assuming they can throw the ball in straight.

SURE THING: Some guff to be written about Robertson vs Gatland and being a challenge to one or the other/both.

Nobes
Tips: Highlanders, Brumbies, Crusaders, Waratahs, Lions, Stormers, Jaguares

What an attractive first round of Super Rugby! We are facing a very good tournament with surprising results every week, young players who are going to stand out, and extremely entertaining matches. Luckily the Sunwolves do not play this week and we get one less mystery to solve, since there are several in the next round where we will have to decipher if the winners of the first round did it on their own merit or because of the weakness of the losers.

At the beginning of the second round we will have the first question mark with the Sharks – who generally travel well – facing the Highlanders, who were the first-round bye. I put a chip on the home team. The Brumbies should be strong at home and hand the Rebels their second straight loss.

Crusaders versus Chiefs should be a cracker. Aaron Cruden showed his quality in front of the Blues and will have Richie Mo’unga, who I trust will be up to the challenge. I’ll stick with the current champions.

(Photo by Kai Schwoerer/Getty Images)

The Waratahs should turn the page. Nothing to be ashamed of losing to the champions away from home and they should be up to the task of beating the shaky Blues now without Rieko Ioane.

The Reds must face some hurting Lions, who will have to reverse what was shown in Buenos Aires, and Elton Jantjies especially has to demonstrate that he can kick and make better decisions to lead this team.

In their second consecutive home game, the Stormers – despite losing their captain – should beat the Bulls, who seem to play without audacity.

And finally the Hurricanes will not have it easy in the Amalfitani. While the team from Wellington has found no replacement for Beauden Barrett yet, the Jaguares seem to have found in Domingo Miotti more than a substitute for Diaz Bonilla.

SURE THING: Flyhalves will be in demand after this round.

Harry
Tips: Sharks, Brumbies, Chiefs, Waratahs, Reds, Stormers, Jaguares

Home will be sweet for all but two hosts: the Highlanders and the Lions have lost too much talent to keep shape in games against brutal, well-drilled packs.

The Sharks tend to tour New Zealand well, and this year, have finishers aplenty. The hard Brumbies will add to the Rebels’ misery.

The match of the round should be Cruden’s Chiefs versus Richie’s Saders. Chiefs by three.

Riskily, I’ll take the Tahs ‘at home’ on the road against the disappointing Blues. The Reds should upset the travel-weary toothless Lions.

The Stormers lost a few forwards in their opening loss, but welcome a few back, too. The Bulls won’t survive the scrum and maul examination. The Jaguares will go 2-0 and may not have to get out of second gear.

One Kiwi win, three Aussie teams, and two Saffas. Jags on top.

SURE THING: The heat will pile on to Dave Wessels.

Week 2 Geoff Nobes Digger Brett Harry Crowd
HIG vs SHA SHA HIG SHA HIG SHA HIG
BRU vs REB BRU BRU BRU BRU BRU BRU
CHI vs CRU CHI CRU CRU CRU CHI CRU
WAR vs BLU BLU WAR WAR WAR WAR BLU
LIO vs RED RED LIO RED RED RED LIO
STO vs BUL STO STO STO STO STO STO
JAG vs HUR JAG JAG HUR JAG JAG JAG
Last week 6 5 5 6 5 6

Who have you got, Roarers? Who gets your tip this weekend?

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The Crowd Says:

2020-02-09T20:43:36+00:00

Riccardo

Roar Rookie


:laughing: Nicely played...

2020-02-09T20:39:56+00:00

Riccardo

Roar Rookie


Dammit yes RT. But rapt for them tho mate. A good win. Should've taken Digger's Canes too. Great win on the road. Half expecting him to give me a well-deserved swipe. Picks took a bit of a hammering unfortunately but at least the Black Caps have stepped up to claim the ODI series!

2020-02-07T08:49:29+00:00

jeznez

Roar Guru


My heart and my head are in opposition. :crying:

2020-02-07T08:09:32+00:00

Paul D

Roar Rookie


With a bit of luck, the wet weather may de-power the scrum if the ref favours height and stability over resets. The blues L/O was not without its wobbles last week and they are not big tactical kickers. Wet could favour us? :silly:

2020-02-07T07:40:00+00:00

jeznez

Roar Guru


Particularly when it's wet and our set pieces are shaky - madness all this love for the Tahs!

2020-02-07T06:11:26+00:00

Red Rob

Roar Rookie


Well the Crowd is clearly 50% deluded!

2020-02-07T06:00:56+00:00

Paul D

Roar Rookie


Crowd hates Tahs! And Reds apparently. Perhaps we don’t give our own a snowballs chance.. :laughing:

AUTHOR

2020-02-07T05:57:50+00:00

Brett McKay

Expert


Crowd picks are in: Highlanders Brumbies Crusaders Blues Lions Stormers Jaguares The Blues?!?! :shock: Are you guys mad?!?! :laughing:

2020-02-07T05:05:46+00:00

Rugby Tragic

Roar Rookie


I know you are a Blues supporter, and I know you selected the Tahs, but Riccardo, it’s Ok to be wrong mate … I mean Blues have got Parsons back : :shocked:

2020-02-07T05:02:03+00:00

Rugby Tragic

Roar Rookie


You’ll be sorry you didn’t select the Blues Riccardo :happy:

2020-02-07T05:01:02+00:00

Rugby Tragic

Roar Rookie


You’ll be sorry you didn’t select the Blues Thugby ... I have nothing more to say :stoked:

2020-02-07T04:36:58+00:00

Red Rob

Roar Rookie


settle down there fella! Start drinking early and you won't feel a thing!

2020-02-07T03:44:51+00:00

ThugbyFan

Roar Guru


The chook, Jeznez and Thugby are pointing the bone at RT, TM and Bf. May Them Noble Tahs (TNT) beat the Ioane-less Blues. In fact Newcastle has not been a happy hunting ground for Oz rugby. Scotland beat them in 2013 in a deluge and who can forget last year's match there when the Tokyo Boyz ran roughshod over the toothless Tahs. But this weekend, all shall be forgiven.

2020-02-07T03:35:32+00:00

ThugbyFan

Roar Guru


Like about 20 others, the match in Fukuoka stopped me scooping the pool, only one madman won all the biscuits. Who could have predicted that the Japan Barbarians team of 3 weeks was less of a rabble that the Melbourne Rabbles. Hopefully this more difficult week will allow the cream to rise. On that positive note, here goes: Highlanders: True the Highlanders lost loads of beef during the Summer but their pack will still contain 8 angry Kiwis/Islanders, and from #9-13 still has loads of talent. I’m not totally stoked in the Sharks forwards (apart from the brilliantly named LHP Ox Nche, imagine he packing down with the Beast) though they do have a very good backline also. Yes the Sharks travel well, but they looked pretty insipid at home against the toothless Bulls. I reckon the skirt-wearers will come out ready to eat children and get the win. Brumbies: The Melbourne Rabbles lived up to their name last week, a weak front row, a disappointing back row, an IC playing only OK at flyhalf while a gun flyhalf sits on the bench (A.Deegan isn’t even in the 23 this week) and a game plan that would make the 2018 WB look like the 2011 AB. D.Wessels has the Rebels running like a sick Austin Healy whereas D.McKellar has the Brumbies running like a Rolls Royce. Enough said, Brumbies by 2 tries at least. Chiefs: Joe Moody and Cody Taylor return to prop up the Crusaders spluttering scrum (pun warning!). The big difference is David Havili to flyhalf with R.Mo’unga rested ala AB orders. Chiefs changed their THP but the big changes are A.Cruden, ALB and D.MacKenzie in the run-on side. I thought the Tahs weak pack almost held the Saders last week, but RM and the big centres/wingers tore the Tahs to pieces. They won’t have that latitude this week and if the Chiefs forwards hold or do a job on the Sader’s piggies then Cruden et al will have too much class. Tahs: The Tahs look stronger this week whereas the Blues lost their major backline dancer in R.Ioane. I expect an almighty battle in the wet between the piggies with coach Penney selecting 2 locks on the bench in anticipation of loads of blood bins. I have to follow Brett’s Laws #3, “Most times do NOT select the Blues”. Reds: The Reds bring back I.Rodda and its Back to the Future as J.O’Connor returns to flyhalf in place of the much-touted and now demoted I.Lucas. Last week the Lions held the Puma/Jaguares out till half time but faded big time in the 2nd half. The extra jet lag should counter their home advantage. The halfback got chopped and Andries Coetzee experience should guide their backs a bit better. Similarly the Reds were on top in the 1st half and lost their way against the consistancy of the Brumbies attacks. tbh this is anyone’s game. Stormers: Watching the Bulls play last week was masochistic for their fans. Fancy paying good money to watch that horrible game. I only saw the 30 min shorts on Monday and it still looked a shocker. The Stormers were pretty OK against the Windies, even after losing their captain S.Kolosi. Stormers by >15. Los Jaguares: The Jags looked a very well drilled unit last week whereas the Canes struggled to hold the power of the Stormers. The Jag’s home advantage and Hurricane’s jet lag point to a good win for the high fliers from Buenos Aires. Ireland, England and France: Let’s not forget the 6-Nations which is shaping up as the Second French Revolution. Lovely to see Eddie Jones struggling for words after he “motor-mouthed” Les Blues about brutality prior to the match. The post-match video in the Pom dressing room should be nominated for an Academy award for most entertaining of the year. I expect England players to come out breathing fire this weekend and flog the FinnRussell-less Scooots. For all the hype, the Ireland v Scotland game last week was a stinker. Easy to see why they had a horrible RWC2019. Sure Thing: All the rain dropping on Sydney this week, which is thankfully received, has come from DiggerCane’s tears after their “Storming” loss last week. After this weekend I’m buying a raincoat and perhaps an ark. :laughing: :laughing:

2020-02-07T01:39:53+00:00

WithTheDawn

Roar Rookie


Ah damn, I didn’t see the tipping last week so missed out on some points. This will only make my eventual victory all the sweeter though... Some great matchups this week and very few easy tips. Hard to know what to expect from the Highlanders - first game of the season and a very different looking team. Still, I’ll back then to get the job done at home. The Rebels were embarrassed last week, and you would hope they will come back stronger, but the Horsemen should have enough to take care of them. Over to Saturday night and a great double header awaits. The Chiefs and Crusaders are the two favourite teams to win the whole comp, so this one should be a real cracker and is the game of the round. The Chiefs looked good in the second half once they had more of their top players on, and they are playing at home. Still, it takes a brave man to tip against the Crusaders, even without RM to guide them around the park. I’ll stick with the Christchurch boys for this one. Then the battle of the Blue teams. I thought both teams looked decent last week in losing efforts, and I think I saw enough from the Blues that they can challenge here and get the upset over the Tahs in Newcastle. Over the other side of the globe there is an interesting matchup with the Lions and Reds which could go either way, with neither team looking too impressive last week. I’ll stick with the Lions for this, even though they aren’t the team they used to be. Hard to go past the Stormers after their performance against my Canes last week - as poorly as Wellington played, the Stormers also looked very impressive. And for partly the same reason I’ll back the Jags to make is 2/2 and take down the Canes, who may well come back from a tough away start to the season with zero competition points (but hopefully some scoring plays this time at least...). Looking forward to it, at least it is Feb now so it feels slightly less weird have the Rugby back.

2020-02-06T19:49:47+00:00

Nobrain

Roar Guru


I followed New Zealand Herald and they said that RM was ok to play the derby and that DM was not fit to start. Well , you cannot trust everything you read I guess. Bookies are running the show.

2020-02-06T19:45:44+00:00

Riccardo

Roar Rookie


Jeez Diggs. You can still support the "Breeze" but tip with your head! Some tough calls this weekend but: Shorks Brumbies Chiefs Tahs Lions Stormers Jaguares

2020-02-06T19:41:53+00:00

Riccardo

Roar Rookie


After their virtual surrender last weekend at home and without Reiko, I'm going with the head this weekend RT. Hate to say it but Tahs at home for me; they had moments last weekend against the Champs and look the more cohesive unit.

2020-02-06T19:38:30+00:00

Riccardo

Roar Rookie


Saw that before I tipped the Chiefs, who are starting Cruden, ALB and McKenzie. But I support the Blues Nobes; what would I know.

2020-02-06T18:08:47+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


Ja, he can’t play that kind of rugby. He needs to do the inside passes, skip passes, kick-passes, and delay flips. Anyway, I think he’s a confidence-based guy. Could be a really good match.

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