Super Rugby Week 8: Lessons learned. Or learnings gained.

By Brett McKay / Expert

Three rounds to go in New Zealand, the halfway point about to be reached in Australia. Have we learnt anything yet that we didn’t already know?

Here’s two things to consider: first up, the Waratahs might find themselves in a very handy position in a season or two, once all these really promising kids they’ve introduced to Super Rugby this season get another pre-season or two under their belts. I though the Tahs were going to battle in Super Rugby AU, and they just haven’t been.

And all it took for the Blues to become a truly formidable side was the best player in the world, and the bloke he replaced as the All Blacks’ number ten to run the water.

Write that down if your team is battling. That’s all they need. Recruiting 101.

Let that be your lesson learnt this year. Or your learnings gained, if you’re an absolute language heathen.

LAST WEEK: Digger 4; Brett, Geoff, and Dan 3; Harry, Nobes, and The Crowd 2.

OVERALL: Harry, Brett, and Digger 17; Geoff and The Crowd 16; Nobes and Dan 16.

Digger
TIPS: REBELS, CRUSADERS, BRUMBIES, HIGHLANDERS

It’s high up here at the top, and it wasn’t too hard to get here either after only starting in Round 3, hopefully I won’t fall off.

So with the Canes having the bye this weekend most will simply do other things but we will all soldier on and endure as best we can, masks on naturally.

I suspect the Rebels will have too much in the tank for the Force while the Brumbies seem the obvious choice, although the Reds’ pack should hold their own.

(Photo by Teaukura Moetaua/Getty Images)

Chiefs and Crusaders make me a little nervous as the Chiefs have a habit of tipping the Crusaders over, however I cannot recall the last time the Crusaders lost two in a row and Richie Mo’unga’s form is simply irresistible to tip against.

Highlanders and Blues is a sticky one also. The Blues certainly deserve to be favourites with their season to date but the Highlanders at home are a significant hurdle and the Blues have not been playing with the same spark in recent times, so I will back the Clan at home.

SURE THING: Russia considering a bid to host the 2027 Rugby World Cup makes me think of a band like Five Finger Death Punch doing a Sweet Caroline cover, mixing in the old with the new, loud, thrilling, exciting, harsh, life threatening. Certainly, a prime opportunity for 42 Below to get in on the sponsorship bandwagon and cuddle up to the Kremlin (the big one and the little one).

Geoff
TIPS: REBELS, CRUSADERS, REDS, HIGHLANDERS

In 2018 the Rebels travelled across to Perth to play the Force as a goodwill gesture, and were surprised and disappointed to receive anything but a warm welcome, verbal and physical. Don’t be surprised then if this match carries a decent dollop of extra feeling.

Lots of feeling around too for poor Warren Gatland, who will almost certainly coach his side to an eighth successive loss against the Crusaders. Nah, just kidding (not about the eighth loss, about the sympathy).

(Michael Bradley/Getty Images)

I’m not convinced about the Brumbies since the resumption, although I do expect them to lift this week for what is an important top of the table clash. If the Reds can keep all of their players on the field (no sure thing), then they’re a good chance of jagging the win.

Is it tempting fate to tip the Highlanders for another stunning upset? Probably, but after a quiet week’s rest and relaxation in Queenstown, they should be primed and ready for the Blues.

SURE THING: Young Joseph Suaalii will be picked up at the school gates on Friday afternoon and just like a regular schoolkid will be flown by private jet to spend the weekend with Rusty at his northern NSW hangout, plied with popcorn and a new Xbox, kicking back watching Rusty’s back catalogue (except for Romper Stomper), before arriving back at school on Monday in time for show and tell, where he will announce that he’s signed a $4 million deal with A-League side Sydney FC.

Brett
TIPS: REBELS, CRUSADERS, BRUMBIES, BLUES

Okay then. A couple of weeks ago, after some impressive performances in their return, I had the Rebels game pencilled in as the Western Force’s first win. Back then, the way the Force were playing, and especially the way the Rebels were playing, it just looked like this was going to the week when their trend lines crossed. Sadly for the Force and fortunately for the Rebels, their trend lines have parted again. And while it would be great for old time’s sake if this was indeed the week the Force broke the duck, I’m not sure this is indeed that week.

The Chiefs, eh? Who would have thought the Chiefs would go six games without a win? Probably slightly fewer than who thought they’d go seven straight. Crusaders for me.

(Photo by Hannah Peters/Getty Images)

The Brumbies will beat the Reds, but not because they’ve been the best Australian side in all of 2020, and not even because they have the bet defensive record in Super Rugby AU. Nope, the Brumbies will beat the Reds because… hahahahahahhahahahhahahahahaaaaaa… because Geoff isn’t convinced about them. Oh my, that’s a good one.

And the Blues. Because I’ve always rated them as a team and as an organisation.

SURE THING: Yes, I know the Chiefs have already lost seven straight when you include the final round of Super Rugby before the world ground to a halt. So we’re actually talking eight straight. And to find the last time the Chiefs lost eight straight, you have to go all the way back to nineteen-ninety… never. The closest we come is an eight-game winless streak over the end of 2010 and start of 2011, which includes a draw in the mix.

So my sure thing this week is history. Either the Chiefs’ worst losing streak *in their existence*, the first time the Crusaders have lost two on the trot since March 2018, which is equally crazy.

Dan
TIPS: REBELS, CRUSADERS, BRUMBIES, BLUES

We start with what appear to be two straightforward matches. The Rebels were clinical, if not particularly enterprising, in their win over the Tahs last week and should have no trouble against the Force.

Coming off a rare loss, the Crusaders won’t allow themselves to succumb to consecutive defeats against the winless Chiefs. Warren Gatland’s men haven’t been as bad on the field as their record suggests, but there’s no tipping them in this one.

The meeting between the Reds and Brumbies should be the match of Super Rugby AU to date. Noah Lolesio’s absence will be far more keenly felt than it was last week against the in-form James O’Connor, although the Brumbies are still the stronger side from one to 15. Sort out a few front-row wobbles and they’ll get the job done.

(Photo by Mark Nolan/Getty Images)

The Blues’ excellent defence is more than enough for them to start as favourites on the road against the Highlanders. With Beauden Barrett looking more comfortable, if not back at his peak, in the number ten jersey, the Auckland side should get the result they need to stay in the Aotearoa title hunt.

SURE THING: One side getting out to an early two-try lead in the Force game.

Harry
TIPS: REBELS, CRUSADERS, BRUMBIES, BLUES

Ebbs and flows, tides shifting. This week is pivotal. Who’s got the best pivot? The Blues. Finally, Beauden Barrett at ten.

The Blues by a lot. The Rebels by a bit. Crusaders by several horse lengths. And the Brumbies over the Reds in extra time.

But the real comp is this tipping panel. Digger might be exhausted. Brett is hanging on. Geoff is closing. It’s big, this round. Injuries may play a factor.

SURE THING: I say it’s a sure thing that Digger pulls a hamstring; a common injury by a punter.

Nobes
TIPS: REBELS, CRUSADERS, BRUMBIES, BLUES

As things change, at the beginning of the season Digger was depressed since he considered that his blessed Hurricanes were not going well and considered that the Hurricanes were in a year of transition. Well, what a transition it has been!

(Photo by Hagen Hopkins/Getty Images)

I think a future Super Rugby competition should have seven teams from New Zealand and five from Australia. Those from the Southern Islands will spread their stars in more teams and thus make the 12-team tournament more competitive. There is a big difference in the games that are played in the country from those in black and those that are played in Australia.

The Rebels should account for the Force, I liked how the Perth team was playing offensively but leaving the score at zero against the Brumbies is not a good sign. Crusaders should return to triumph after the stumble in Christchurch and the Chiefs seem to have improved but show no sign of learning how to win.

The Brumbies were very solid and I think they should beat the Reds by small margin. Highlanders and Blues make me wonder things. The Blues seem to be losing steam or no longer surprise as before, and the Highlanders are a team that never gives up, even when they are left for dead. Toss of a coin, Blues it is.

SURE THING: Force fans will continue to complain about the draw, and with good reason.

Harry Brett Digger Geoff Nobes Dan The Crowd
FOR v REB REB REB REB REB REB REB REB
CHI v CRU CRU CRU CRU CRU CRU CRU CRU
BRU v RED BRU BRU BRU RED BRU BRU BRU
HIG v BLU BLU BLU HIG HIG BLU BLU BLU
Overall 17 17 17 16 15 15 16
Last week 2 3 4 3 2 3 2

Get your votes in now – The Crowd’s tips will be revealed Friday afternoon AEST.

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The Crowd Says:

2020-07-31T09:38:45+00:00

Jokerman

Roar Guru


Sorry for the late reply. Well assessed!!

2020-07-31T07:04:03+00:00

Sheikh

Roar Rookie


Brett, it has been announced that the 2 remaining Force 'home' games will also be a Leichhardt Oval. So NSW has got it's way and they have a Western (Sydney) Force for all of this season!

AUTHOR

2020-07-31T03:06:28+00:00

Brett McKay

Expert


“always trust your prostate” :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

2020-07-31T02:44:32+00:00

ThugbyFan

Roar Guru


Just realised, I picked all the away teams. :unhappy:

2020-07-31T02:43:07+00:00

ThugbyFan

Roar Guru


Got a hiding in the tipping last week after changing my tip right at the death. TNT have a bye this week so heart won't talk head into a change. And at least no more media beat-up about Joe Suaalii, the $666 Million kid. Tell me this, how many U19 and U20 "stars destined to be a WB" end up playing 2nd grade Shute or Hospital cup by the time they are 22? Onto this week's tips: Rebels should be good enough to beat the Force but a loss would not surprise. Injuries and lack of quality reserves is starting to bite the Cowboys from the Wild West but my gawd, the Force backline looks mighty good with R.Kahui and K.Godwin in the centres. Rebels have let a couple of the big boys PoneF and M.Philip rest on the bench and given some good reserve talent a run, and of course IsiN is back in town and raring to go. Interesting to see if T.Hosea can go well against a couple of tough nuts in J.Thrush and F.Lee-Warner instead of beating up the powder-puff locks from TNT. Chiefs beat the Crusaders way back in February, can they do it again? Nahhhhhhhhhhhh Chiefs bench not up to the task. The Daleks by 12. The Ponies from the Capital should win this one with a gun reserve front row and quality backline but I have a feeling in my water (My gandpappy told me "always trust your prostate") that the Reds forwards speed will dismantle the Brumbies. So am tipping the Reds. Of interest is the return of J.Pataia. Now will Anastasia Pxzyqzia (??) let me travel to the Barrier reef? The game of the round. Can RT's hula-dancing Blues from the sunny climes of Auckland beat the chill factor of -200° and HighLander's penguins under the roof near Antarctica? Round 3 the Highlanders nearly beat them up in Auckland, big Hoskins was the difference. I don't know the teams but will go the Blues, though not with much confidence. In short: Rebels, Crusaders, Reds, Blues. Sure Thing: Saturday afternoon is a quandary. Should I go shopping in the district mall and cop CoV down the throat? Or should I sit up at 3pm, feet up and watch on FTA the Manly - Norths Shute clash showing live on ch 7TWO? Its a no-brainer! :stoked:

2020-07-31T02:10:43+00:00

Zado

Guest


Jez Rodda is a NSWesshman albeit educated and ruggerd at IPPY Grammar. :crying: :laughing:

2020-07-30T22:14:37+00:00

terrykidd

Roar Pro


Lol my tipping should be called "Faith, Hope and Charity"

2020-07-30T14:23:01+00:00

Rugby Tragic

Roar Rookie


Haha! That’s what they say!

2020-07-30T14:20:07+00:00

Rugby Tragic

Roar Rookie


:silly: just need to pick the right roughie Geoff .. if Chiefs can upset the Saders (and they are Saders boggie team, the SR A title will be left in the hands of Crusaders, Blues or Hurricanes :happy: :happy: ... not too much to ask for huh?

2020-07-30T14:15:39+00:00

Derek Murray

Roar Rookie


If Brums bring the game they took to Sydney, they'll get smoked. They were a lot better against the Force but the Reds will test them at scrum and they have some smart moves outside JOC

2020-07-30T14:13:38+00:00

Derek Murray

Roar Rookie


Faf was best 9 in the world last year. Maybe more than the toilet, Smith responded to that challenge

2020-07-30T14:11:47+00:00

Derek Murray

Roar Rookie


Agreed. I'm backing all away teams

2020-07-30T14:10:39+00:00

Derek Murray

Roar Rookie


Not sure getting Kiwis to bite on their rugby qualifies as quality Brett. Like shooting fish in a barrel.

2020-07-30T12:49:36+00:00

robbo999

Roar Rookie


yeah but only Highlanders wear woad. Haven't you watched Braveheart?

2020-07-30T12:39:26+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


Joined as hipsters

2020-07-30T11:08:43+00:00

Geoff Parkes

Expert


:laughing:

2020-07-30T11:07:08+00:00

Geoff Parkes

Expert


Good luck with that Chiefs pick, RT!

2020-07-30T11:06:16+00:00

Machooka

Roar Guru


You know you can seek some financial hardship assistance to evict da b@$t@rd$?! :laughing:

AUTHOR

2020-07-30T11:05:19+00:00

Brett McKay

Expert


Is it already clear, EFF? Has there been any announcement about the WA border staying closed for another month?

AUTHOR

2020-07-30T11:03:52+00:00

Brett McKay

Expert


They both wear blue, Robbo!?!? :laughing: :laughing:

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