Six talking points from AFL Round 14

By Josh / Expert

Round 14 of the AFL has come to an end and there’s less than a month left in the home-and-away season now. Here are my talking points from the weekend.

Bulldogs, Blues let their chances slip by
At what feels like should only be the mid-point of the season, we are instead deep into the final rounds and, for those teams on the fringe of the eight, every result is crucial.

Some were able to keep their dream alive this week with critical wins, and we’ll talk about them more soon, but the Western Bulldogs and the Carlton Blues both missed out on golden opportunities this week.

The Dogs produced some scintillating football in the first quarter against Geelong on Friday night, booting six goals to none and looking on the verge of a season-defining win.

But Geelong steadily chipped away at that lead all night and managed to slip past them by nine points in the end, all the more impressive given the shortened quarters of season 2020.

As for Carlton, their finals dream was dealt a life-threatening blow when they allowed Collingwood to streak ahead for a win in the final quarter on Sunday afternoon.

The Blues were eight points ahead at halftime but didn’t kick a goal in the second half in a match that highlighted just how far they still have to go.

It’s undoubtedly been an improved season by them but they’ve won only two games by more than 7 points. That’s the same number as bottom-four sides North Melbourne and Sydney, and one less than Hawthorn.

Both sides now significant hills to climb if they’re to have any chance of playing finals football. Neither can afford to drop another match between now and the end of the home-and-away season.

Given this week’s results, you’d have to think both have probably fallen too far back to catch up now – but, stranger things have happened.

(Photo by Michael Willson/AFL Photos via Getty Images)

Joe puts on a show in unexpected return
It wasn’t long ago it seemed the most likely outcome of 2020 for Joe Daniher would be a year gone by without playing a minute of football.

His sudden return for the Bombers against Hawthorn instead came as quite a surprise, as he moved from ‘indefinite’ to ‘available’ on Essendon’s injury list overnight.

That being the case, it was hard to know what to expect. If he’d gone the entire game without being sighted – as seemed a possibility in the early stages when the Bombers struggled – I don’t think too many would’ve been shocked.

Instead, you could hardly have written a better tale of his first game back. With the Bombers six goals behind at half time, Daniher was one of the sparks that saw them fire up for a famous comeback.

He finished the game with ten marks and three goals to his name, rising to the challenge in a lot of crucial moments. Essendon would not have tasted victory without him.

Something that hasn’t been said enough about Daniher over the last 12 months is what a rare and unique footballing talent he is. There’s a reason clubs have placed such a high value on him.

Beyond merely being good at football, there’s just something inherently charismatic about the way he plays the game. It’s hard not to feel wrapped up in the joy he shows when he kicks a goal.

All things considered, it was a delightful and deserved return for a player who has endured more than his fair share of scepticism and scrutiny over the last year.

It almost feels crass to immediately turn to the question of just what this means for his future at Essendon – so I won’t spend too long on it.

I’d actually like to see him stay. But would any of us survive the nuclear smugness radiating out of Tullamarine if that came to pass? Doubtful.

(Photo by James Elsby/AFL Photos via Getty Images)

Queensland return sees West Coast stumble, again
Thursday night’s clash between Richmond and West Coast was billed as a possible grand final preview and, if it proves to be so, we look set to enjoy a fine contest on the last day of the season.

It was goal-for-goal in the first half, before a quick burst of three in a row in the third quarter saw Richmond take an advantage they wouldn’t relinquish.

When you have two sides this good that can be the difference – a few brief minutes of the game where one gets on top and does some damage, as the Tigers did.

Perhaps the most dangerous thing about Richmond is their supreme confidence. Whether it’s Dustin Martin or Liam Baker, not one member of the 22 has even a shred of doubt about their own premiership credentials.

Do West Coast have the same confidence? They came into the fixture with eight consecutive wins under their belt, but it’s hard to ignore the fact they’ve faltered immediately upon returning to Queensland, where they struggled so much earlier in the year.

Of course, it must be acknowledged they were up against the reigning premiers and lost one of their most crucial players, Josh Kennedy, to a concussion early on. Boiling it all down to the Queensland location would likely be an oversimplification.

Still, it’s clear that the announcement expected to come on Tuesday regarding just where the AFL grand final will be played in 2020 is going to do a lot to shape the season.

The Eagles will be hard to ignore as flag favourites if Optus Stadium is selected, conversely, there’ll be many writing them off entirely should the decider be fixtured at the Gabba.

In the meantime, they face a challenge just to get into the top four – right now they sit outside it, albeit with a game in hand against three of the four incumbents.

If they’re to finish top two and earn some home finals then they likely need to go undefeated from here. That will be a challenge, but certainly possible with a run home versus Essendon, the Bulldogs, St Kilda and North Melbourne.

(Photo by Matt Roberts/AFL Photos/via Getty Images)

Rising Star Riccardi receives rude rating
Jack Riccardi didn’t enter 2020 as one of the season’s highly-touted draftees. The mature VFL key forward wasn’t picked up until the 51st selection of the 2019 draft, and had to wait until Round 13 to make his AFL debut.

Two goals and ten marks in a losing effort against the West Coast Eagles was impressive enough for him to keep his spot, but his performance against Fremantle really caught the eye.

In a game were GWS were comfortably on top throughout, Riccardi pulled in another nine marks and kicked four goals, tying with the reigning Coleman medallist for the most of any player on ground.

He’s clear offering more than Jeremy Finlayson has throughout the season so far and, in the space of seven days, seems to have cemented a spot in the Giant’s best 22.

Perhaps his addition can be the spark that reignites a stuttering GWS season. The result – a 38-point victory over the Dockers – is of the sort we expect from a team of their talent, but we’ve rarely seen them match expectations in 2020.

They will finish the round outside the top eight on percentage, but with Carlton, Adelaide, Melbourne and St Kilda to come, their destiny is very much in their own hands.

Bar the winless Crows, each of those sides is a fellow finals contender, a classic ‘eight-point fixture’ where the Giants can further their cause not only by claiming a win for themselves but by denying their opposition one.

Cameron’s four goals were a season-high for him also and if Riccardi’s arrival is making life easier for him too, then the Giants will be a team to watch closely in the run home.

Riccardi appears to be a lock for this week’s Rising Star nomination but surprisingly his performance was made controversial by the fact that Champion Data’s AFL player ratings ranked him as the worst player on the ground.

This has prompted plenty of backlash and questioning of the value of Champion Data’s ratings system – and this certainly isn’t the first time it has produced some obtuse results.

As a footy stats nerd I feel compelled to weigh in: yes, believing that the stats can tell you everything – about any topic in life – is a bad idea. But believing they tell you nothing is perilous also.

(Photo by Daniel Carson/AFL Photos via Getty Images)

Demon Christian on ‘trac’ for superstardom
It’s a grave failing on my part that we are 14 rounds into the season and this is – according to my recollection – the first talking point of the year dedicated to the outstanding form of Christian Petracca.

Ever since entering the AFL as a No.2 draft pick great things have been expected of him, and those flashes of talent he showed in his earliest years have only increased our expectations.

He has been maligned at times over his so-far short career as some questioned whether he could realise his talent – but doubters have been put to bed in 2020.

Realistically, he’s 24 years old and will play his 100th game two rounds from now. This is exactly the time when we should be expecting him to hit his peak, and he’s done exactly that.

In 2020 Petracca is averaging career-high numbers for disposals, clearances, goals, score involvements and metres gained per game – all even without adjusting for the shortened game time.

On Saturday night he booted four goals to guide Melbourne to a narrow three-point win over St Kilda, a result which has put them into the top eight and dramatically boosted their hopes of a return to finals after a hellish 2019.

In such a tight affair, Petracca’s potency was the difference for the Demons, although the excellent form of Steven May (and perhaps also the absence of goal-line cameras) proved critical as well.

Lachie Neale’s excellent form has made him 2020’s clear Brownlow favourite and, with only a handful of weeks left in the season, I find it hard to believe this year’s count could end with anyone other than him wearing the medal.

But take Neale out of the picture and Petracca would be the clear favourite – and he’s certainly an All Australian lock, also. He has arrived as a star of the game – which will make the years to come very exciting for Melbourne fans.

(Photo by Matt Turner/AFL Photos)

Everybody gets a turn
Adelaide Crows (0-13) – Had the bye this week. I wonder how they spent it, and whether we’ll see a different team emerge on the other side.

Brisbane Lions (10-3) – Also had the bye this week. I know exactly how they spent it (or at least should have): goalkicking practice.

Carlton Blues (6-7) – I’m not sure that Marc Pittonet and Tom De Koning in the same team is doing a lot for Carlton. Just gave Brodie Grundy two opponents to knock around instead of one this week.

Collingwood Magpies (8-5-1) – Mason Cox’s form since returning to the team on Monday has been really impressive. I’ll admit I thought we might have seen the last of him, but he still has some shots to fire.

Essendon Bombers (6-6-1) – Daniher created the lion’s share of the headlines this week, but this was also an outstanding game in the career of Andy McGrath. He has quietly had a brilliant breakout year.

Fremantle Dockers (5-8) – It’s incredible how David Mundy just keeps playing brilliant and classy footy year after year. I hope he goes around again in 2021.

Geelong Cats (10-4) – I’ll admit that I’ve been a card-carrying member of the Gary Rohan sceptics society for some time now, but he was brilliant in the final quarter on Friday night. Important win.

Gold Coast Suns (5-8-1) – They’ve traditionally struggled to win games late in the year under Stuart Dew so – regardless of the quality of opponent – it’s a good effort to ice on this week. Well done.

GWS Giants (7-6) – Two goals this week another impressive step forward in the development of Bobby Hill. Great to see Brent Daniels finally get one on the board for 2020 too.

Hawthorn Hawks (4-9) – Probably their most frustrating result in a year that has provided plenty to choose from. The silver lining is that Jack Scrimshaw was really impressive.

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Melbourne Demons (7-6) – He wasn’t best on ground but having Max Gawn back in the lineup was important for the Dees. Can’t help but wonder last week’s match against the Bulldogs might have gone had he been available.

North Melbourne Kangaroos (3-11) – North traded all their good karma this year in exchange for Luke McDonald having a career revival and Ben Cunnington regrowing his hair. Close call but it still worth it.

Port Adelaide Power (11-3) – Robbie Gray hasn’t fired a lot of shots this year (though that goal after the siren was pretty memorable), but he did this week with 27 touches and two goals. More of that please.

Richmond Tigers (9-4-1) – You’d think a team at the top might be struggling for young talent but they aren’t. Noah Balta is a star and they’ve had more AFLCA votes by players 21 and under than any other side this year.

St Kilda Saints (8-6) – It would be devastating if they missed finals from here. Have Hawthorn, West Coast and GWS left – need to win at least one to be a chance, two to be certain.

Sydney Swans (4-9) – It’s clear that the Swans are having their worst season in some time, but I don’t think too many will be losing their heads. Going OK considering their youth and inexperience.

West Coast Eagles (9-4) – The Nic Naitanui era isn’t coming to an end any time soon at West Coast but we may have seen the man who’ll step up when it does this week, with Bailey Williams making his debut. Exciting prospect.

Western Bulldogs (7-7) – They have had some big contributions from Lachie Hunter in the last couple of weeks. Hopefully, that bizarre trade rumour is officially dead and buried.

The Crowd Says:

2020-09-02T04:50:05+00:00

Dangersphere 10

Roar Rookie


Yep, my boy looks to be back in ripping form! Seems the rest up forward did his body some real good, as he has that real explosiveness and power back again after a quietish patch mid season. Singlehandedly got us back in the game on Friday, and was huge for us in the previous 3 rounds as well. Don't know about another brownlow, as most seem convinced Neal has that already stitched up, but after last years debacle, who knows? Maybe? I hope so, as he does deserve it, but I know he'd much rather win that elusive first flag instead. That's the one that really counts.

2020-09-02T04:43:50+00:00

Dangersphere 10

Roar Rookie


Cotchin is tug on field, but he is astute at playing the humble family man off it, so it seems to even itself out. Certainly works for the MRO, he should have never been allowed to play after that Shiel hit, but being Richmond, different rules do apply. We must always remember that.

2020-09-02T04:39:16+00:00

Dangersphere 10

Roar Rookie


Agreed, as a nuetral I was very disappointing with that second half showing, particularly after the first half showed such promise! But in the end they lacked maturity and class, and Cripps, well, he looks cooked and he definitely needs a rest / some help manning that midfield. Also needs to sort that set shot kicking out, before it becomes a career trait and a perpetual flaw in his game. That miss in the 4th, 30 out, with no angle, was huge.

2020-09-02T04:36:43+00:00

Dangersphere 10

Roar Rookie


It was a joy to behold! Can only imagine the difficulty of executing such a plan after such a horror start and with so much score board pressure present, but kudos to the boys, they did it wonderfully and produced an incredibly memorable and inspiration comeback. I hope they keep it up going into finals, nothing like a 10+ game winning spree going in, like the tigers last year!

2020-09-01T21:17:44+00:00

pablocruz

Roar Rookie


What a load of rot, doc. Martin's quality is unequaled. Take him every day of the week.

2020-09-01T10:58:26+00:00

sven

Roar Rookie


so u think stats are the sole indication of the worth of players ? i know who i'd rather have playing for my team, & it aint kelly, much as i think he's a fantastic player

2020-09-01T06:21:10+00:00

andyfnq

Roar Rookie


You are right. Have a look through their posts, not a lot of friendliness or humour there.

2020-09-01T05:10:39+00:00

RT

Roar Rookie


Apparently I am not allowed to comment that this person does it to everyone. Maybe you can explain as a Roar intern Liam, because my comment was a lot more polite than his previous two comments to you.

2020-09-01T05:06:12+00:00

sven

Roar Rookie


ah i see it now, just thought it was your unbridled enthusiasm for all things collingwood running amok again :silly:

2020-09-01T04:55:06+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


Not at all, I like it when HTH gives it to the Pies. it’s usually deserved but even when not deserved it’s still good to cop it.

2020-09-01T04:54:22+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


Of course he is Tom but many of us take ourselves so seriously in here...it's good balance. Steele has potential to keep the balance too.

2020-09-01T04:52:05+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


Sven if you saw myself and 2dogs banter you would see this is just banter. Of course Mason didn't play a blinder ...but he did ok...I hoped the smiling emoji would let people know it was theatre, clearly not everyone.

2020-09-01T04:48:17+00:00

sven

Roar Rookie


oh he played a blinder now, pts? to be fair to cox to get to the top level of a sport that was foreign to him is a huge achievement, but if he wasnt a 7 foot tall freak he would not have got a look in, the pies would be a much better team if they had a decent big power forward ala dixon, jk, tomahawk or lynch to name a few.

2020-09-01T03:20:13+00:00

sven

Roar Rookie


good is maybe too strong a word but yeah he did have some impact 2nd half

2020-09-01T02:47:11+00:00

Parkside Darren

Roar Rookie


Yep, hopefully he lifts intensity this week

2020-09-01T01:51:37+00:00

Seymourbutts

Guest


As maligned as Cox is they play better with him in the side. He leads well.... he gets hands to them enough times.. they just dont stick as often as Pies fans would like.

2020-09-01T01:30:48+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


His second half in the 2018 GF was actually pretty good.

2020-09-01T00:58:06+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


I was ready to trade him before his blinder against the Blues 2dogs…now I think Harry McKay will be just a handy back up to Cox at the Pies. :stoked:

2020-09-01T00:03:56+00:00

Macca

Roar Rookie


Pre-pubescent stuff is ignoring what is actually said to start an argument. Look at what I said "That was a big one, win the toss, have a player who played at the ground for the start of his career make the decision and choose the end where we lose the ball in the sun. ????" Clearly blaming Docherty for choosing the wrong end. Anyone watching the game in that first quarter would have seen numerous times when the Sun cost the blues (Casboult missed an uncontested mark 20m directly in front by 2 feet because of it) - it was a bad mistake by Docherty. "Odd that you mention half time stats, proves nothing on your behalf." Only if you want to take a very limited view of the game. Carry on.

2020-08-31T23:48:36+00:00

Steele

Roar Rookie


Not my players, I was hoping for a blue bagger win. Odd that you mention half time stats, proves nothing on your behalf. Moore certainly lifted. Game was won in the second half. Also odd to mention the commentary on Grundy halfway through the third. It was precisely then that they took control. Look at the coaches votes, they thought he went ok. Adams better than ok. Inside 50’s are useless if your forwards are being dominated. And after re reading your post, you were clearly using the Sun as an excuse, which is pre-pubescent stuff. Carry on.

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