The Roar's AFL expert tips and predictions: Rounds 17

By Stirling Coates / Editor

Can you believe it? There’s just two weeks to go.

Just 18 more home-and-away matches separate the present day from finals football.

Scores of seven for myself and Liam Salter mean I maintain my three-point lead atop the panel, with Marnie’s eight closing her deficit to six. I wanted to see outlandish upset tips from them both to keep things interesting – maybe next week.

Stirling Coates

St Kilda, Geelong, Fremantle, Port Adelaide, Melbourne, Carlton, Western Bulldogs, Brisbane, Collingwood

It’s mid-September, so I shouldn’t be surprised, but it’s hard to believe the home-and-away season is just a fortnight away from ending.

We’ve got an interesting one to start things off and, although their last three weeks haven’t been incredible, I’m backing the Saints to make a splash against West Coast tonight.

St Kilda are due for a return to form, while the Eagles are riddled with injuries and have now proven beyond doubt they simply aren’t the same team when they play away from Perth.

The true blockbuster of the week of course is Geelong’s date with Richmond tomorrow. I don’t know what plans you’ve got on Friday night, but if you’re reading this article and you haven’t cancelled them, what’s going on?!

You can never, ever count the Tigers out, but I’ve always maintained the Cats would have won last year’s preliminary final with Tom Hawkins, and I expect them to exact revenge. They’re hotter than hot right now and deserve favouritism against anyone.

(Photo by Quinn Rooney/Getty Images)

The only other match this weekend that really warrants a bit of thought is Greater Western Sydney vs Melbourne. Neither side has played like they deserve a finals spot lately but, barring a draw, one is set to have their chances boosted massively.

I trust neither side but will tip the Demons for potentially the last time ever.

Things are a bit simpler elsewhere. Fremantle will continue their strong finish to the year with a comfortable win over North Melbourne, Port Adelaide will swat Essendon like flies, Carlton should have the quality to see off Adelaide’s resurgence, the Bulldogs will knock off the Hawks and Alastair Clarkson will claim the umpires’ lime green uniforms is too similar to Hawthorn’s gold, Brisbane will crush the Swans and Collingwood should see off the Suns.

The penultimate Shoe-In of the Week goes to Port Adelaide once more – they should have little trouble putting another loss in Essendon’s column.

Marnie Cohen

West Coast, Geelong, Fremantle, Port Adelaide, GWS Giants, Carlton, Western Bulldogs, Brisbane, Collingwood

The final two rounds of the home-and-away season are here! They’re spread across a somewhat ‘normal’ time frame too, so we can digest properly and look ahead to what should be a very interesting finals series.

Let’s just get to the game of the round, shall we? Geelong vs Richmond on Friday night. I cannot wait. I still can’t wrap my head around the ‘caution’ surrounding the Cats. Why don’t people think they’re a genuine threat this season? Surely after their demolition job of Essendon last weekend and their good form recently people are starting to take notice.

I assume the scepticism comes from their inability to progress to a grand final in recent seasons and I assume the reason most people believe Richmond are the team to beat in 2020 is because of their sensational finals form.

Both sides are fantastic, and this could very well be a preview of the 2020 decider. I can’t go past Geelong at the moment. White-hot.

Joining Geelong in the battle for a top-two finish are Port Adelaide and Brisbane, who should both notch up wins this weekend. Port will finish on top – their form has been just unbelievable, and what’s scary is that they’re mainly being driven by kids. This could be a sign of things to come in the next five to ten seasons.

The Lions are also looking pretty good, but they proved last season that playing finals at the Gabba isn’t necessarily an advantage. Sure, they’ve matured over the past 13 months, but they have work to do in front of goals.

I also need to stop myself from trusting West Coast and the Giants. Neither side has been overly impressive of late – particularly in the Giants’ shock loss to Adelaide a few days ago – but I keep tipping them because I feel like, deep down, they understand the importance of winning at the moment. It sounds silly, because winning is always important, but in the context of both of their seasons it’s crucial they win these last few games.

For West Coast, a top-four finish is on the line and the Giants will need a win if they want to secure a spot in the finals. I think they both will. If not, it says a lot about both sides and maybe they’re not quite as good as I thought.

Coming for the Giants’ finals spot are the Western Bulldogs. A good modern-day rivalry, this one is. The Bulldogs’ shock victory over West Coast earlier this week has pushed them back into the finals frame, and it appears as though one of these two sides will make up the eight. They are just too inconsistent for my liking, but I don’t mind their chances against Hawthorn.

I like the way Freo are travelling at the moment. They’re better than their 13th place suggests and should beat North. The Pies and Blues should be able to get the job done as well.

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Liam Salter

St Kilda, Geelong, Fremantle, Port Adelaide, GWS Giants, Carlton, Western Bulldogs, Brisbane, Collingwood

The penultimate round of footy this year, and there’s still a tonne of uncertainty in the ladder. It’s going to make for an exciting suite of games, then.

Firstly, I’ll cut to the chase on a trio of easier games: Brisbane should comfortably beat the Swans, Port will pummel Essendon, and Collingwood – if they’re any chance of making finals – simply have to defeat Gold Coast.

As is tradition, expect to see the footy gods throw in an upset or two to make me rue my words, though.

There’s also plenty of action surrounding the lower part of the eight. The Giants, Demons and Bulldogs are fighting for a position. The former duo seemingly strived to ruin their own chances in the past week and, ironically, face each other on Saturday night. The Demons are spiralling a bit more, so expect the lacklustre Giants to win.

The Doggies have an easier match-up: they’ll beat the Hawks, though an upset wouldn’t necessarily surprise.

The Bulldogs are back in the finals box seat. (Photo by Quinn Rooney/Getty Images)

In a pair of matches that hold ramifications for the lower part of the ladder, Saturday’s clash – North hosting Fremantle at Metricon – leaves the Kangas vulnerable to the wooden spoon if Adelaide’s resurgence continues. If North lose – and I think they will – then the Crows’ Sunday arvo clash with Carlton becomes important.

The Blues will be buoyed by their last-gasp win over the Swans and are still a mathematical chance of making finals but have to navigate a clash with the suddenly-good-again Adelaide side.

The Crows are back in Queensland, away from their Adelaide Oval confines, and despite the enthusiasm around them, I’ll back the Blues to pull out the win and lock in the South Aussies as wooden-spooners-to-be.

As for tonight’s Eagles-Saints clash, both teams are overwhelmingly likely to make finals, but their exact positioning remains up in the air. Neither have been in great form, but the Eagles’ injury concerns are a worry.

I’ll (hesitantly) back the Saints here. Similarly, the brilliant Geelong host the reigning premiers in what is far and away the match-up of the week. A potential grand final preview, the Cats are the favourites headed into this clash – and given they’re in better form, that isn’t a surprise.

The Cats to win and possibly solidify increasing premiership potential.

Round 17 Stirling Marnie Liam Crowd
STK vs WCE STK WCE STK STK
GEE vs RCH GEE GEE GEE GEE
NM vs FRE FRE FRE FRE FRE
PA vs ESS PA PA PA PA
GWS vs MEL MEL GWS GWS GWS
CAR vs ADE CAR CAR CAR CAR
HAW vs WB WB WB WB WB
SYD vs BL BL BL BL BL
COL vs GCS COL COL COL COL
Last week 7 8 7 7
Total 85 79 82 93

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The Crowd Says:

2020-09-14T04:16:13+00:00

Dangersphere 10

Roar Rookie


haha mate, half way through I said to my mate "maybe it would have been better if it DID rain?" -least it would have forced a change of game style to a more contested slug. The system vs system way it operated turned into a nightmare for my cats, clearly not at the level of the tigers, but I'm glad we found that out now rather than in another prelim or worse, a granny. Hawkins was triple teamed due to Rohan being out, without him running around causing chaos we looked one dimensional and given the elite pressure on in the mid, our mids had zero opportunity to hit it to hawks advantage. He also looked a bit tired, not surprising considering he has played every single game this season. Might be due for a rest, which he will get with the pre finals bye.

2020-09-13T07:43:20+00:00

Bangkokpussey

Roar Rookie


Currently in Brisbane due to travel restrictions.

2020-09-12T11:33:26+00:00

RT

Roar Rookie


I’m okay with that, this year :stoked:

2020-09-12T06:48:14+00:00

Rowdy

Roar Rookie


I saw upto 3 players on him at times. Maybe he got them at the buffet table too?

2020-09-12T05:28:27+00:00

Nick

Guest


Didn't rain at all. Ground was good and the tigers made Geelong look second rate. Hawkins moved like he had been up for a 2nd serving from the all you can eat buffet.

2020-09-12T04:20:36+00:00

Dukey

Roar Rookie


Not bad so far and i hope you nail the rest of your prediction.

2020-09-11T10:53:15+00:00

TheKoojee

Roar Rookie


Dunno, mate. didn't swim with fishing gear, l stayed clear of sand sharks though!.

2020-09-11T08:02:10+00:00

Graeme

Guest


Eagles and Dockers supporters should never have any love for the other team, it is just WRONG. I hate to admit it but Freo do have something to look forward to for once. Their supporters may eventually lose the “little brother” chip on the shoulder If this group can bring home a flag in the not too distant future. Half a chance as long as Peter Bell and Longmuir are there and Woosha in some role in the future.

2020-09-11T07:37:27+00:00

Nico

Roar Rookie


Agreed on crowd tips above, except: - West Coast - thank goodness I took the risk. - Melbourne (over GWS) Upset of the round potentially Hawthorn. But not brave enough to tip this. Gold Coast and Adelaide to also have a good crack, but doubt they win.

2020-09-11T06:18:14+00:00

Rowdy

Roar Rookie


What's the fishing like?

2020-09-11T05:35:54+00:00

Don Freo

Roar Rookie


Bad luck about that one, Pabs.

2020-09-11T04:25:22+00:00

TheCunningLinguistic

Roar Rookie


A very good call, as it turns out!

2020-09-11T01:29:59+00:00

TheKoojee

Roar Rookie


When it comes down to both the super-charged little Yoda-ish Mee-ows & the bigger black'n yellow Schwarzenegger cats, the battle of the bulges will sure buuuuulge to the max this round 17. When these two have a good flex at each other at first, then they'll both start to move mountains with a flick of their paws, they'll pounce over tall buildings in fractious bounds, they'll come like a scream of bullish full-steam catomotives on a head-on collision course with each other, they will even scorch the arena & leave a humongous hole as big as that rock did that killed the dinosaurs, with bits & pieces of themselves derails all over the place but without actually having both their main cores derailed. The Mee-ows should barely crawl out of the wreckage in the end to emerge victorious, looking like scarred & ruffled alley-cats while the bow-headed Bengal maneaters should at least get to lick their numerous scratch wounds to fight another day. Didn't get to tip for myself the Saints-Eagles match in time beforehand. The salty anchor droppers are draggin' their anchor across the Nullarbor like it's a feather while the Roos are as lame as if being hit with Ross river fever trying to jump over the other side of the black stump so they could barely catch & hitch a ride on the afore-mentioned anchor to the destination. Well, heh heh, the marsupials will be too busy fartin' & munchin' on excess oval grass while the shipyard men'll just stand there spitting out sherrins between the tooth-pick posts of which they'll be using come final siren - to scrape off excess fish meat still stuck in their teeth, man!. The pier men will return home to see their dock coffers fattened up while the losers known as the long-tailed giant hopping mouses - or what Sylvester the bugs bunny cat describes them - pretend to play "Oi-let's-just-jump-back-home-in-a-single-bound" game. Next up, well it's obvious that the Zeuses from SA are fully powered up while the warplanes just doesn't have any available bombs to load up for a dogfight this year anyway. Come round 17, all the pilots will end up being zapped out of the sky by the almighty, man!. Now for the Fe,fo,fi,fums, their fum fum callings will cause their tum tums to go numbly numbly before they crumble along with the beanstalk they were still coming down from, and having woken up from slammin' into the ground to find the Demons pickin' snots out of their big hairy noses. It goes to shine as Satan's arrow-tailed mob uses their tridents to cook said snots like marshmallows over the ovalfire in between goalkickings. Well l reckon this one'll be an upset cook-over by the two-horned lake-of-fire minions. l'll be having a couple of Carlton draught when its namesake gives the blues to those black yellow-beaked birds from Adelaide, the birds'll forget how to ''caw' in defeat, instead, they can only utter "Farrrrrk!!!!" So l'll swim the Sahara desert to see the reality across the Red Sea , the Arabian Gulf & the Indian ocean where it gets so damn wider, the gulf between a pack of fully hungry frothin' mutts & a band of grounded broken-winged Hawks looks lopsidedly lopsider than the word lopsided itself. For the birds of prey to try grasp the meaning of any attempt to even try wobble a sherrin around the centre square would be like as futile trying to run across the Yarra on foot in a water surface-running contest. We all know that all birds of prey get bogged & trapped on the surface of water bodies & stuck like they're stuck in deep mud. But look!, the dogs are on the riverbank wagging their tails, they're a'wanting to jump in to fetch, no, not the birds - the sherrin!, man, dogs are good swimmers & they'll be having a field day basketballin' around their opponents as easy as a bone, man!. Those long-necked white birds are looking like ballerinas flappin'& trumpetin' about doin' the swan lake rehearsals, but when the lions come to town the birds bury their heads in the sa...err...lake water. So yep, the pride can fatten up this week. Lastly, after that beer l mentioned before, l can safely take a good long loud round thumpin' burp to round out the typewriter before l'll tell you the black & white songbirds sinks the Sun down into the horizon this week. Wanna hear a long story? here goes. The Magpies will sink the Suns. The end.

2020-09-11T00:05:19+00:00

MkherH

Guest


Yeah that's right Eagle will win and won it highway

2020-09-10T23:39:29+00:00

FelixGreen

Roar Rookie


Haha, if all footy fans are nuffies in some way, I'm more a vic-bias conspiracy theorist Eagles fan than a beat up of Freo one. Your young squad of midfielders are super exciting.

2020-09-10T20:27:55+00:00

TheKoojee

Roar Rookie


Reckon all umpires should wear their tops, shorts & socks completely in mild glittery silver - the type with mild sparkling, with the added benefit of being easily distinguishable.

2020-09-10T19:50:05+00:00

TheKoojee

Roar Rookie


Reckon all umpires should wear mild all-glittery silver t-shirt, short & socks.

2020-09-10T17:47:53+00:00

the random blokes

Roar Rookie


You were close. Glad the boys won, hopefully Geelong beat Richmond, all we have to do if that happens is beat North Melbourne and we make top four. North are shit

2020-09-10T12:43:54+00:00

13th Man

Roar Rookie


Yep, noted, Some would have been a better word. Well played tonight, great performance.

2020-09-10T12:42:41+00:00

13th Man

Roar Rookie


That’s nice, it seems a lot more WCE fans have Freo as their second favourite than the other way round… Probably because you’ve had more success and pity us :laughing:

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