Hawthorn and North Melbourne got it wrong, wrong, wrong

By Cameron Rose / Expert

No doubt about it, we are coming off a fantastic opening round of AFL football. Vibrant. Thrilling. Exhilarating. It was, indeed, like a warm hug.

Adelaide’s win over Geelong will stand as one of the top-ten matches of the year come season’s end. Sydney announced that the future is very much now, and we need proof that John Longmire actually coached that team. St Kilda were all heart and grit in the wet, to match the razzle-dazzle we know they have in the dry.

Other games were a mixture of good and bad, thrills and spills, comebacks and strong wins. None of it was anything less than compelling.

But there was one issue from the weekend that stuck in the craw. A few media types addressed it on the periphery, but really only Matthew Lloyd on Footy Classified tried to go a bit harder.

Alastair Clarkson and David Noble were responsible for two of the most disgraceful decisions we have seen in the AFL this century by starting debutants Connor Downie and Charlie Lazzaro as the medical subs for Hawthorn and North Melbourne respectively.

How many times have retired legends spoken about how they’ll never forget their first game? Kids growing up with the idea of one day playing AFL, and all of the hard work and sacrifice it has taken to get there.

In recent years, we have seen countless videos from clubs where they capture the moment they tell a young player that they will be coming in for their first game. Even more emotional is when they capture those young men and women calling their close family members – they are often tear-jerking and never anything less than affecting.

And then the follow-up, with friends and family attending the debut game. Mums and dads, driving around half the state, if not flying around the country, to make sure their children can realise their dream. Friends who have ridden the highs and lows alongside them. Other family members.

Fancy, in light of all of the above, picking a debutant as a 23rd man. It’s beyond disgusting.

Assuming that all coaches don’t want their players getting injured, they are picking a debutant actively hoping he doesn’t get on the ground.

“Hey mum, thanks for everything you’ve done for me over the last 18 years. Do you want to come and watch me sit down for 120 minutes?”

Is there some sort of lesson is this? About how life is tough, and it’s a brutal industry? Bullshit. A handful of young players walk in an AFL club each year, and there is a golden opportunity to provide them with a once-in-a-lifetime experience if they have earned it.

A player debut can be the making of a club. Any success the Swans have with this generation of players will traced back to Saturday night at the Gabba and the appearances of Logan McDonald, Errol Gulden and Braeden Campbell.

Errol Gulden of the Swans (Photo by Bradley Kanaris/Getty Images)

Senior players always speak about the lift they get from playing with young players, striving to set a great example, how it helps them reconnect with their love of the game, and often results in them turning back the clock. Have a look at Travis Boak’s form since the young guns at the Power have appeared on the scene.

Better yet, it’s just good business, especially for stragglers like Hawthorn and North that need to sell hope for the future.

The difference between your 22nd and 23rd player make in any given game is almost none. The difference between your 23rd and 24th even less.

Damon Greaves was an emergency for Hawthorn on Saturday night, standing the same height and weight as Connor Downie, with a similar run-and-carry style. He’s already played three games for the club. It wouldn’t have been better to make him the medical sub if Downie wasn’t in the best 22?

Clarkson responded with an embarrassed joke when asked the question by a reporter in his post-game press conference. He knows he was in the wrong.

Interesting move by David Noble, trying to repair a broken club by making the Lazzaro call one of his first public actions too. Nice way to endear yourself to the fans.

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We see many incidents on a football field that draw the ire of the public. Patrick Dangerfield’s bump on Jake Kelly is the most recent. There have been sling tackles, callous hits, jumper punches, even Barry Hall on Brent Staker.

At least all of these moments are in the midst of a high-intensity game where emotions can sometimes get the best of players.

But to coldly and calculatedly deny a player a proper debut? Pathetic and potentially destructive.

In Round 1, 19 players made their AFL debut. 11 clubs got it right. And I’ll bet the two that didn’t remain in the minority this season and beyond.

The Crowd Says:

2021-03-28T09:42:47+00:00

Mr Right

Roar Rookie


Not totally unhappy with the game today except for the awful disposal rate in the first quarter. Ceglar & Frost were a lot stronger. With Wingard & Gunston coming back over the next couple of weeks we should get our younger players playing in a team that is competitive against most teams. Brockman, Jiath & Day could be future stars. I don't expect finals this year but it could be a possibility next year. Any word on what is happening with Patton?

2021-03-27T22:35:36+00:00

Mr Right

Roar Rookie


I think Ceglar has to lift his game from what I saw last week. Too many errors, I don't expect him to be a star, just a bit more solid like David Hale was either in the forward line or around the game. I'm not expecting a win, just a solid performance. Obviously I will have my fingers crossed.

2021-03-27T04:27:10+00:00

Birdman

Roar Rookie


Hi Mr R, I completely concur. Clarko was a major factor in getting us back in the fight, and Brockman looks special to me - his banana from the boundary in particular was an assured and classy piece of finishing. Looks good in traffic too. As for Downie, I expect him to be seriously competing for a regular senior spot throughout 2021. I'm also keen to see what the Hawks can do tomorrow against the Tiges. I expect nothing less than a genuine contest and also hope we can finally trust Tim O'Brien to have an impact week in, week out. Go Hawks!

2021-03-26T22:36:40+00:00

Mr Right

Roar Rookie


Hi Birdman, nice to get a win against the enemy last Saturday. I just posted my thoughts at the bottom. How did you see it?

2021-03-26T22:35:00+00:00

Mr Right

Roar Rookie


The 2 main issues to come out of this game from the media should be; a) that the Hawks came from 40 points down to win the match by 1 point. b) In a Hawks rebuilding phase, Tyler Brockman, pick No 46 in the 2020 draft debuted & had a very strong game kicking 2 goals. The game was in the balance right to the death & Clarko used his more experienced players in such a tight contest. Unfortunate that the young guy didn’t play any minutes in his debut? yes. But Clarko’s job is to instil a winning & successful culture at the club. As a supporter, do I ever want the coach to compromise a winning opportunity to make sure everyone gets a turn with the bat & ball? No. This is not a school playground, this is AFL Football. If the young guy is good enough he will get future chances. If this scenario scars him for life, he shouldn’t be playing AFL football.

2021-03-25T01:41:12+00:00

Ace

Roar Rookie


Thanks for the response Cameron. I guess the year will play out and everyone will then have a better idea if it's been a good decision. Just hope it's not abused.

2021-03-25T00:16:42+00:00

JamesH

Roar Guru


Yeah, that aspect of it is difficult. 12th man usually isn't confirmed until the morning of the test, whereas in AFL there is usually a couple of days' notice.

2021-03-24T11:34:13+00:00

Kanggas2

Roar Rookie


Sense of community .. the national draft means kids often don’t play for home town or community.. toughen up , the debut will happen wherever it happens.

2021-03-24T11:22:05+00:00

Aransan

Roar Rookie


Could Grundy become the first player to volunteer for a salary cut? What would his manager have to say?

2021-03-24T10:50:15+00:00

Birdman

Roar Rookie


Yep, if he's fit.

2021-03-24T10:03:58+00:00

O M

Roar Rookie


Obsessed Much? :happy: I think JB might have been onto something with you two. Larry & T00tz! Woof woof! :thumbup:

2021-03-24T09:11:03+00:00

2dogz

Roar Rookie


Great article Cam! Twinkle Twinkle seems obsessive though

2021-03-24T08:54:06+00:00

2dogz

Roar Rookie


We can’t all be loved

2021-03-24T08:40:38+00:00

bagley

Roar Rookie


I think they should bring in Scrimshaw before Greaves.

2021-03-24T08:04:36+00:00

Doc Disnick

Roar Guru


I'm that guy at the party you either love or hate, Paul. We probably wouldn't get along.

2021-03-24T07:19:01+00:00

2dogz

Roar Rookie


I’d take those odds,though I think the nemesis maybe older, single/lonely and in need of attention.

2021-03-24T07:10:26+00:00

Yattuzzi

Roar Rookie


2D or DB, I am so hurt. Are you sure that you are not another R clone. The funny thing about the clones is that they all have exactly the same demeanour and personality. At least he could make it interesting. If I was to guess, I am probably about PTS’s age. Maybe twice yours, maybe three times your nemesis. So I probably know more, just forgot it.

2021-03-24T06:34:54+00:00

Greg Evans

Guest


:football: My passed Brother in Law..R.I.P Russell Jarrat. "A Richmond Tigers Fan,to the end" Rest in Peace Tigerland.

2021-03-24T06:01:41+00:00

2dogz

Roar Rookie


Back when footy was footy! Do you miss the 1800’s ? :silly:

2021-03-24T05:26:43+00:00

Yattuzzi

Roar Rookie


In the old days, it was common for a debutant to be nineteenth man and come on for ten minutes in the final quarter, if he was lucky.

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