Phil Gould urges NRL fans to "read the research" on concussion. So I did...

By Joe Frost / Editor

“Something is going to happen. Mark my words, something is going to happen.”

It was the closing stages of a tight State of Origin match when Phil Gould uttered this phrase, doubtlessly smiling to himself at the level of insight he had provided.

It’s easy to pile on ‘Gus’, largely because it’s his job to be a controversy magnet. He espouses strong opinions and he doesn’t back down.

But with over 50 years in the game (based on the assumption he had laced up a boot in the years prior to signing with Penrith in 1976) as a player, captain, coach, coaching director, general manager of football, pundit, and whatever we call the crucial role he played for the ARL during the Super League war, the man has earned the right to deliver opinions.

You don’t have to agree with him, but to dismiss him out of hand shows your ignorance, not his, even if a lot of what he says are just his thoughts being framed as being irrefutable fact.

But what I do get tired of is when he frames irrefutable fact as being his thoughts – such as the comment highlighted at the top.

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Really Gus, “something is going to happen”? Was that based on coaching six victorious Origin series, or because it’s inarguable? Maybe a dramatic try would lead to a come-from-behind victory. Maybe the team ahead would kick a field goal to seal the result. Maybe both teams would tackle to a standstill and the scoreboard wouldn’t change any further.

Maybe a meteor would hit Earth and render the entire game pointless.

Whatever the outcome, something happened. And Gould got to act like his statement was wisdom only he, the most successful coach in NSW history, could have provided, rather than a basic statement of fact that a four-year-old dishes up on a daily basis.

That’s when you can get pissed at Gould. When, rather than drawing upon wisdom gained from five decades in footy, he says a truism and then leans back acting like he’s provided the ultimate comeback to an argument no one was having.

And he’s been at it again these past few weeks regarding the issue of concussion, imploring people to “read the research”.

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It’s the ultimate ‘I win’ statement, because it uses scientific evidence to back up a belief and science should be the slam dunk in an argument. So Gould has taken to rattling off “the research” when getting steamed up over the head-high crackdown.

Prefacing his opinion by stating that he doesn’t like to talk about concussion “because the minute you do you are howled down by people who either want to take the moral high ground, get on a soapbox or who are uneducated at the research”, Gus proceeded to talk about concussion for a good ten minutes on a recent Six Tackles with Gus podcast.

“I urge people to go and actually read the research and see what the medical science is actually learning about this – not what they’ve decided, what they’re learning,” he said.

Discussing research into chronic traumatic encephalopathy (“this term called CTE, I can’t say the long term, if you want to sound intelligent you learn the long term and people think you know what you’re talking about,” Gus said, thus discounting the opinions of people who have read enough research to learn the name of a disease strongly associated with concussion) Gould said, “you don’t get CTE because you get knocked out or have one traumatic concussion experience, it’s a condition caused by a number of repeated and sometimes even minor conditions or what they call sub-concussions.

“The research on this, if you actually read it, you will understand how uneducated some of the opinions are being espoused about it.”

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He went on, “I just urge people to do the research and settle down a little bit. The last thing I want is footballers thinking that if they have a concussion event that they’re going to be somehow debilitated late in life, when that is not the truth and that is not the research.”

He doubled down on this last Monday night, saying on Channel Nine’s 100% Footy, “I’m sick of people espousing opinions without doing any research…”

Look, in theory it’s fair comment. Rugby league is faced with an issue that is medical at its core and our understanding of said medical issue is fairly shallow, due to study in the field being relatively recent.

As such, when it comes to concussion, citations trump seasons. And Gould appears to have recognised as much.

But quick question for you Phil: which research have you read?

By telling people to go out and read the research, you imply that you’ve digested the most up-to-date investigations conducted by qualified people.

So who were they? What was the title of their paper? Where was it published? Who reviewed it? What data did they use to reach their conclusions? What were their conclusions?

You don’t get to ridicule the overwhelming narrative regarding an issue based on your blind assertion that no one has read the research if you can’t cite any research that you yourself have read.

Urging people to read “the research” without any further information on where they find the evidence you’re relying on is the realm of the anti-vaxxer, the flat earther, the climate denier. Sure, there are papers available that support your way of thinking, it’s just that the authors tend to have earned their credentials at the University of Bullshit.

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I’m not saying Gould hasn’t read any research any more than I’m saying he was wrong when he predicted that “something” would happen in a game. It’s just that stating a truism doesn’t give you intellectual superiority, nor does telling people to “read the research” carry any actual weight if you can’t tell people what specific research you’ve read and precisely how it changes the colour of a debate.

So here’s some research that I’ve dug up, including links to where I found it so interested parties can follow up.

From the Alzheimer’s Association: “Those at greatest risk for CTE are athletes who play contact sports (e.g., boxers, football players, etc.) and military veterans, likely due to their increased chances of enduring repeated blows to the head.”

According to the Mayo Clinic: “CTE may be prevented because it is associated with recurrent concussions. Individuals who have had one concussion are more likely to have another head injury. The current recommendation to prevent CTE is to reduce mild traumatic brain injuries and prevent additional injury after a concussion.”

Now, I’ll repeat, this is a newer field of study and the science is still in flux, so I’m not looking to jam those quotes in anyone’s face, fold my arms, curl my lip and wait for apologies and praise.

But that also means Gould can’t simply say “read the research” after saying his piece and act like it’s case closed. Because the case on CTE is totally open.

That said, as CTE goes (if you’ll pardon a loose analogy), it’s looking a lot like cigarettes to lung cancer. A pack-a-day smoker isn’t guaranteed of getting the big C and someone who has never so much as taken a drag can die of that awful disease, but your odds of getting cancer shift with every durrie. In this instance, replace durries with head injuries and cancer with CTE.

Footy players aren’t guaranteed to get CTE, but they’re in a completely different risk category than those of us who bang our heads against a proverbial brick wall in an office for a living.

Of course, Gould’s ultimate aim is to poke holes in the NRL’s protect-the-head edict, saying that “the vast majority of traumatic or concussion events that we see in the game today are with people making the tackle” and that asking players to lower the tackle range will “bring in more collisions with the head”.

Now, on this, the numbers are in his favour. The tackler is more likely to be concussed than the person carrying the ball.

But don’t confuse facts with the truth.

How many one-on-one tackles do you see in a game of footy? The standard now is a gang-tackle of two or three blokes taking down a solitary man carrying the ball. Take the Cowboys vs Warriors match from Friday night – according to NRL Stats, a total of 348 runs were made over 80 minutes, while there were 685 effective tackles.

Of course there are more injuries in making a tackle – it happens almost twice as often!

That said, a recent study conducted by Dr Suzi Edwards of the University of Newcastle et al acknowledged that “the majority of head impact injuries [are] sustained by the tackler rather than the ball carrier” and that “50-51% of concussion injuries occur from legal torso tackles”.

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But their research also stated “High (illegal) tackles possess the greatest risk for injury”.

(Full disclosure: Dr Edwards is a colleague of mine, although I do not speak on her behalf and only refer to her work because it is recent, peer-reviewed and was published in the highly reputable International Journal of Sports Science and Coaching.)

The tackler may cop the most head injuries and legal tackles may account for the greatest number of concussions, but to say legal tackles are the problem is like saying spaceflight is safer than automobile travel, because only 32 people have died attempting to visit space – more than ten times that amount of people died on NSW roads alone in 2019.

I mean, come on, read the research!

But when you’re told that, as of 2018, only 565 men and women have ascended into space, you start to see how a stat can be skewed.

High tackles might not cause the majority of head injuries, but they are the riskiest. And since the game of rugby league cannot eliminate concussion, it needs to swap out high-risk actions for those that carry lower risk.

That’s why we’re seeing the crackdown, not because concussion is going to ever disappear from collision sport, but because the actions that increase the risk of concussion need to be cut down as much as possible.

And that’s because the more concussive events a person sustains, the more likely they are to develop long-term health problems, including – but not exclusively or definitely – CTE.

So yeah, I’ve read some of the research and so far, I’m with the NRL on the crackdown. As for my prediction on whether HQ has the stones to see their edict remain in place?

Something is going to happen. Mark my words, something is going to happen.

The Crowd Says:

2021-06-10T06:34:13+00:00

Gray-Hand

Roar Rookie


Women live longer than men, therefor they are more likely to develop dementia.

2021-06-03T06:08:37+00:00

Mike

Guest


I did some research and came up with a surprising stat. In Australia the break up of the gender of people diagnosed with dementia is women 64% V men 36%. Alzheimer's is the same. Considering men make up the overwhelming number of people who play contact sport this stat doesn't agree with the research that such games cause dementia. If it did surely men would be the majority. Food for thought!

2021-06-03T04:41:06+00:00

Rugbynutter

Roar Rookie


Gus Gould is just so out of touch....players are bigger and stronger then ever with modern sports programs and pro training environment. The g force a typical NRL player creates with the typical tackle is huge and last time I checked players heads and brains are not equipped to take this sort of impacts. Vlandy doing the right thing and not helped by dinosaurs like Gould who are still living in the glories of 80's when we were ignorant of the impact of head impact injuries. If contact sports like league and union are to survive they need to adapt and adapt quickly and need more leaders like Vlandy and less noisy gooses like Gould ignoring the need to act decisively in this area as NRL has done.

2021-06-02T16:36:18+00:00

Ad-O

Guest


Well, if you know the research you know Gould has a point. You can't tell players to avoid concussion by doing something that's more likely to cause concussion. They are in a situation where they're damned if they do and damned if they don't and its turning off many fans.

2021-06-02T08:55:39+00:00

Aussieinexile

Roar Rookie


Here’s the latest paper on headgear: Padded Headgear does not Reduce the Incidence of Match Concussions in Professional Men’s Rugby Union: A Case-control Study of 417 Cases https://www.thieme-connect.com/products/ejournals/html/10.1055/a-1345-9163

2021-06-02T02:49:34+00:00

steveng

Roar Rookie


Sorry folks RL is a high contact sport and its dangerous irrespective of how and what has happened and will happen or what rules are changed! If you want to make the high $$$'s that RL awards then what Gould and many old timers have said is what it is but its risky! No one wants the worse but it happens and unfortunately its part of the course and will happen 'no matter what'. You can't have both as RL will not be the same and many supporters will give up supporting RL and RL will be for the dogooder bunch to follow and they will cut it into pieces, slice by slice.

2021-06-02T02:26:29+00:00

Tony Hodges

Roar Rookie


The thing that really works in rugby’s new approach is that the defender has an obligation to protect the head of the attacking player. Any contact fails that obligation, and the decision framework decides what mitigations there (falling player, unsighted, discontinued force, etc). Stating from that obligation makes it clear to everyone, and easy to understand.

2021-06-02T01:06:48+00:00

At work

Roar Rookie


Great article, not much more that could be said really on the topic. Although the NRL shouldn't go without criticism for the way they've brought in this crackdown. There is absolutely no reason why this shouldn't have been implemented at the start of the season to give players, coaches, etc, the chance to get to terms with the tightened rules. But if they want to reduce chest high tackles, then lower tackles should be rewarded more by the refereeing.

AUTHOR

2021-06-02T00:54:24+00:00

Joe Frost

Editor


Headgear doesn't stop concussion – in fact, it may actually increase the risk of injury. https://theconversation.com/wearing-protective-headgear-in-rugby-may-increase-the-risk-of-serious-injury-new-research-84887

2021-06-01T23:18:20+00:00

Jay

Guest


My first and only question is, if they are serious about reducing concussion injuries, why not start with mandatory padded helmets?? There can't be a performance issue when the greatest player of all time (JT) performed just fine with one on his donk.

2021-06-01T22:49:54+00:00

theHunter

Guest


Changing of tackling technique is easier said then done don't you think? To avoid high shots we want to teach a low tackle but low tackle has the potential for the tackler to be KO'ed so we have to teach them to tackle a bit higher so which one is it? The torso area only? That would be impossible, for one, because the runners of the ball don't run at you with the intention to be tackled easily. They change direction, lower their bodies before impact and sometimes turns their body for a side ways impact, etc... with all this happening in a split second you think a player will have the time to apply the right technique? Concussion is a risk of playing this sport. The research states concussion or CTE is caused by continuous blows and League has a lot of it. But to pretend to be serious about Concussion and CTE and use it to justify the crack down is laughable. It was always an illegal tackle to do a head high shot so even without the crackdown we knew it can potentially knock-out someone thus it was a law of the game. But now with the crackdown, everyone is trying to be an expert in concussion & CTE and showing concern for player well-being and future stating that decreasing the chance of head high shots will decrease the risk of CTE, etc...ignoring the fact altogether that not only head high shots is the cause of concussions. I will repeat here that your research and The experts have advised that it is caused by "Continuous Blows" so if you all are so seriously concerned about player well-being just remove the impacts from rugby league. Play touch footy instead. No continuous blows to any of the players whether running the ball or defending and no need for any tackling technique. This sport has its risk just like boxing, F1 racing, MMA, kickboxing, NFL, AFL, surfing, cricket, etc... and concussion among many other things are risks of any sport. You don't want the risk associated with any sport, simple, don't play it. Every sport tries to minimize ill effects for its participants future but some are just too impossible to remove altogether. Rugby League however uses concussion to justify its crackdown on an already illegal tackle but completely ignores other concussions caused by legal tackles.

AUTHOR

2021-06-01T22:11:24+00:00

Joe Frost

Editor


Dr Edwards' 2021 study references the 2019 work to which you're referring, and Dr Ross Tucker is listed as a co-author on both papers. No cherry-picking here mate, just using the most up-to-date info.

AUTHOR

2021-06-01T21:03:38+00:00

Joe Frost

Editor


Check out Dr Edwards' research – working on changing tackle technique to make it safer.

2021-06-01T14:42:19+00:00

Ad-O

Guest


Cherry picked argument attempting to straw man Gould. You missed the RFU's research indicating that forcing players to tackle low increases the risk of concussion, it doesn't decrease it. In fact the trial had to be abandoned because the increase was so dramatic it was considered unethical to continue.

2021-06-01T12:46:18+00:00

andyfnq

Roar Rookie


I think the research on CTE explains why League has consistently had off-field issues with direction, management and expansion - an awful lot of the crew running the game have probably spent their formative years getting whacked in the head on a weekly basis :laughing:

2021-06-01T12:42:18+00:00

andyfnq

Roar Rookie


Beat me to it! Go further than that, the after the game crew (with the exception of M johns) is a walking, burbling advertisment for the prevention of CTE injuries.

2021-06-01T11:37:33+00:00

Mooty

Roar Rookie


Gus’s badly busted head is a pure example of someone who has taken too many knocks. He for one should be supporting this measure every time he looks in the mirror

2021-06-01T10:50:47+00:00

peterj

Roar Rookie


Read the research Walter :silly:

2021-06-01T10:44:06+00:00

Phil

Roar Rookie


Read the research, heed the words of Gaseous Gus Gould and form your own opinion. I for one firmly support the crackdown and hope head highs are gone forever regardless of what the RLPA has to say about it. I refer to a former colleague of mine who I worked with for around 20 years. He was a former Sydney first grade player who came here to captain/coach the local team. Not a big bloke, a genuine 5/8 who was too tough for his own good, scared of no-one and played the game accordingly. Fast forward a lot of years, long after JF retired, another colleague came into work one day saying she bumped into JF uptown and he couldn't find where he parked his car. There was some laughing from colleague ii, to which I commented that it was no laughing matter. Not long after, a former team mate of JF, now a sales rep, came into work one day selling his product. He asked me if JF was still around the area to which I replied that he was, living a mere five minutes away. The rep, MH asked if I could ring JF as he would like to catch up with him for a coffee. I did ring JF and told him MH was here and was keen to catch up. JF came in and spent over two hours with MH in what looked like a very jovial re-union of the two. When MH had to go he came and thanked me for contacting JF telling me if their team had 13 players with the guts and toughness of JF they would have beaten any side. A little later JF approached me and asked, much to my surprise, who was that bloke he had just spent time with, he had completely forgotten his former team mate who he played two seasons alongside.

2021-06-01T10:04:31+00:00

ThighSlappinBalls

Roar Rookie


Top article I am not sure where the happy medium is it seems all over the shop now. I know union is a different game and I don't really follow it but the head is a no go and they are very strict but league played at the pace nowadays with 6 agains, players falling in tackles a sloppy arm here and there and the crusher tackles that are bound to happen with 3 in the tackle. On a side note its getting cool in Qld its Origin time it should be a belter.

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