Stick or twist?: Ex-players call for Noah's removal as Wallabies weigh up No.10 options

By Oliver Matthews / Expert

After three tough losses, former rugby stars are discussing just how much pressure Dave Rennie is under as the Wallabies’ coach weighs up a number of critical selection decisions ahead of this weekend’s Test against the World Champion Springboks.

Perhaps the biggest selection talking point is at No.10 with James O’Connor back in training and Reece Hodge also having his supporters as Rennie has to decide whether or not to keep backing Noah Lolesio.

Lolesio has had the jersey for all six Tests so far this season and despite concerns over his performance and suggestions that Quade Cooper might get an unlikely recall, Rennie made it clear his views on whether he would start the 21 year old in Bledisloe 3 last Sunday, saying “we wanted to back Noah. He’s played a lot of good footy for us.”

But after another difficult game, the calls for replacing Lolesio are intensifying.

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All Blacks’ legendary winger, John Kirwan, feels that giving the youngster a break from starting is a good idea.

“Lolesio, I think maybe Dave Rennie’s got to have a look at him and say, ‘Look, if he’s the future, maybe we need to bring him off the bench with 20 minutes to go,” Kirwan said on The Breakdown on Sky Sport NZ.

“He misses that kick, he does some stuff that I really thought [was] just not really handling the pressure and putting the All Blacks under pressure when they need to.”

O’Connor has been injured and unvailable so far for the six Tests, but he is understood to be nearing a return. The Wallabies could also call on utility back Reece Hodge to fill the role if O’Connor falls short and they want to take Lolesio out of the firing line this week.

“The idea was he’ll be fit for this week, if that runs along that way then you’d assume he would (start),” former Wallaby Morgan Turinui said about O’Connor on Stan Sport’s Rugby Heaven show.

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Lolesio still has plenty of support from inside the Wallabies camp though with Dan McKellar wanting to remind everyone that “if you look at all of our good passages of play, Noah’s played a leading role in the majority of them” when the forwards coach was interviewed on Monday.

Hodge fronted the media on Wednesday and said O’Connor would be able to fit back in seamlessly if selected.

“There’s been a pretty consistent style of play we’ve played since the start of the French series where he was at training before he suffered that injury.

“He’s a class player and understands the game well and fitting back into training this week, and if he was to play on Sunday I feel he’d do it easily.

“There’s always a bit of rust to get off when you come back from injury with the clls getting back into the swing of things, but after one session you kind feel like you’re back in the swing of things.

“Being the player he is he’s very much up to the task.”

If selected, Hodge will play his 50th Test on Sunday, but a regular first choice position continued to elude him.

“It’s a question I’m constantly asked and I don’t really know how to answer it these days,” Hodge said.

“Obviously every player wants to be starting and whilst I’m happy to fill that utlity role I want to be pushing for a starting berth, whether that’s at 10, 15, anywhere really, you want to be playing as many minutes as you can for your country.”

McKellar also shared some news that makes Rennie’s situation even more complicated as the World Champions lie in wait. When asked if Wallabies skipper Michael Hooper will have recovered from the impact with Brodie Retallick in time for Sunday, the Brumbies coach wasn’t able to be as positive as fans would have liked, only being able to respond with “Hopefully.”

New Zealand hero Mils Muliaina has also joined the criticism. Muliaina feels any gains the Wallabies made from the French series win have been undone.

“They’ve almost lost the mental game as well. For Dave Rennie, this is probably a huge step backwards. They lack a lot of leadership at the moment,” Muliaina commented this week.

Rennie clearly has a lot to think about and weighing up the importance of a win this Sunday with building a World Cup winning squad for two years time is not an easy equation to balance.

The Crowd Says:

2021-09-15T12:50:17+00:00

Kane Amoakeep

Guest


Keep Quade Cooper as the 10, his the best 10 in AUSTRALIA RUGBY, it would be Crazy if he didn't play. We want the best players on the fields

2021-09-11T08:03:05+00:00

Calum Edwards

Guest


Take 80 minutes Aussie Coaches and see how England decimated Kiwis in the last World Cup. True they lost to the Springboks the following week, however the lessons are in that Kiwi vs England game!

2021-09-10T03:37:43+00:00

dazell

Roar Rookie


No, I think he was injured at the end of the season.

2021-09-10T01:20:38+00:00

stillmissit

Roar Guru


Good call from the caravan!!!!!

2021-09-09T20:46:26+00:00

Kashmir Pete

Roar Guru


Rocky Now we just need you to roll out the forwards to secure ball for them! Nice pick, like a lot. Cheers KP

2021-09-09T12:26:23+00:00

Derek Murray

Roar Rookie


Lynagh was indeed a complete package but when Jones (a brilliant selector) had them both available to him, he pushed Noddy to 12 and dropped Hawker. It says a lot about Lynagh’s quality but let’s you know where the genius lay

2021-09-09T10:22:51+00:00

Objective Observer

Roar Rookie


Lolesio and Harrison both had the benefit of the Aus Under 20’s and have been tested at a high level when young. Yes - it’s not test rugby but a good proving ground. So it is hard to compare club rugby with serious international games. I hope he is good Aus really needs a number of good young 10’s to give selectors options.

2021-09-09T10:16:38+00:00

Objective Observer

Roar Rookie


Very sensible assessment.

2021-09-09T10:16:16+00:00

Mungbean74

Roar Rookie


Cheers! I’m still learning the forward roles, even after playing for 20 years plus.... in the backs.

2021-09-09T10:14:20+00:00

Objective Observer

Roar Rookie


Dean - good points. I infer your reference is to Foley, yes he was far from great. Equally so the other contenders forced upon us in 2019, To’ouma and Lealifano, we’re worse. Agree Lolesio is a work in progress as are the other youngsters you refer to. I would rather develop the next generation that recycle the old players as Johnston and O’Connor did and failed at in 2019.

2021-09-09T10:08:30+00:00

Objective Observer

Roar Rookie


I think he has been tried and failed. Just not a test level 10. We have failed to develop a really good 10 for years - perhaps we should work on developing some now.

2021-09-09T10:04:16+00:00

Objective Observer

Roar Rookie


Who is this Oconner bloke of whom you speak?

2021-09-09T10:03:15+00:00

Objective Observer

Roar Rookie


9 and 10 - Back to the future? Or just a bad joke?

2021-09-09T08:41:25+00:00

GC Red

Roar Rookie


I would be happy to accommodate my old mate Mungbean. It’s called compromise… you call it what you will. We like to have fun sometimes Cunque, maybe you could have a crack at it! Go on… have a go..

2021-09-09T08:32:15+00:00

carnivean

Roar Rookie


I think that there is a hierarchy of leadership within a team. Everyone listens to the lead playmaker when they call something (or do in a well performing team...). When the play shifts away from them or they're out of play for some reason (bottom of a ruck maybe or the wrong side of the field) then you have to know who to listen to next. If you're Matt Phillip about to throw the intercept pass, are you thinking about the game plan and where the coach said there would be opportunities? Are you listening to the hooker call for hands to the back? Did the call to spread it come from the other side? I'd say that he was doing the "right" thing for the gameplan and listening to the outside players. However a kiwi player might have known that the player outside is a forward, not known for reading the play greatly and missing the rushing defender's intentions, looked up and not thrown the pass. overriding the gameplan and the call. If all the players around him were operating in sync and to the right level I don't think that pass would have been attempted and I think the WBs are lacking the experience and the time spend playing together to have the hierarchy in place well enough.

2021-09-09T08:23:26+00:00

carnivean

Roar Rookie


Until the last 2-3 games NL was that. Kicking around 90%. People were so happy about it they were saying good things on the Roar.

2021-09-09T07:23:35+00:00

cinque

Roar Rookie


Cooper tended to go better vs the Boks than the Blacks, so there is merit in that. Mind you, they will back him harder this time round.

2021-09-09T07:17:28+00:00

cinque

Roar Rookie


Valentini twice and Valetini not at all. Is the position of Roar pedant vacant?

2021-09-09T06:55:36+00:00

Rugby Tragic

Roar Rookie


On issue with Noah's goal kicking.... I believe he is lacking a bit of confidence and while addressing the ball on the tee ... he takes too long before he start to kick ... in the time he takes to start all sorts of things must be going through his mind. I feel he should set the ball up, look at the post and don't dilly dally, don't allow negative thoughts enter his mind.

2021-09-09T06:18:04+00:00

Bobby

Roar Rookie


Yep and training wirh your mates, even contested, is totally different to playing blokes who want to "bury" you.

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