The Roar’s NRL expert tips and predictions: Preliminary finals

By Scott Pryde / Expert

The preliminary finals are here. Four teams remain, and spots in the grand final are on the line as the season’s top four teams put it all on the line. Here is The Roar’s NRL expert tipping panel.

Unsurprisingly, there were few changes on the tipping leaderboard last weekend with both favourites picking up victories.

Everyone got two from two, apart from Mary who stayed faithful to the now-eliminated Parramatta Eels.

That leaves The Barry and The Crowd tied, with David four tips back. There are three games left in the season, as well as a handful of exotic tips on grand final day.

The preliminary finals get underway with what is likely to be a high-scoring contest between the South Sydney Rabbitohs and Manly Sea Eagles.

The Rabbitohs have had a week off, however, will have to deal with the Tom Trbojevic show.

Saturday afternoon brings us an earlier kick-off to avoid clashing with the AFL grand final, as the Melbourne Storm host the Penrith Panthers in a clash which was supposed to be the grand final, but was brought forward by a week following South Sydney’s surprise qualifying final win over the men from the foot of the mountains.

Remember to get your tips into the form below by 6pm (AEST) on Friday evening to join The Roar’s NRL tipping competition for 2021 and be featured as part of the Crowd’s tips for the preliminary finals.

We’ll hand over to AJ to kick us off.

AJ Mithen

Tips: Rabbitohs, Storm
I think the Parramatta-Penrith game will be all the excitement we’re getting until the grand final because these two games are going to be beltings.

Manly are going to have real problems containing Souths if Brad Parker is out, because Cody Walker and Adam Reynolds are going to point all traffic at Moses Suli and Jason Saab.

(Photo by Brett Hemmings/Getty Images)

The only way I see Manly hanging around is if Souths want to make it a trench fight like they did to contain Penrith in Week 1, and surely Wayne knows his squad is better directed at attack this week.

Manly’s defence was much better last week and Tom Trbojevic got loose to make an impact, but I’m not sure they’ll be able to scramble so well to cover Souths spread of the ball.

It’s in the Bunnies’ interest to try and kill this early because Manly are a proud club who, if they’re given a sniff, will make you hurt. Having said all that I don’t see the Sea Eagles breaking through for their first win against a top-four side in 2021.

As for Melbourne and Penrith, the grand final we were all expecting, it will be a miracle if Penrith win. Melbourne are at full tilt, rested and have more experience doing the business in this situation than almost any club in history.

The Panthers are beaten up and sooking, already complaining about the referee appointment and how it advantages the Storm. News flash – the Storm don’t need refs to beat you by 40. Penrith have beaten Melbourne a grand total of four times out of 17 tries since 2011, although the most recent was Round 3 this year (ignore that Melbourne won the return bout 37-10).

The Storm are too big, too strong, too fast, too clever and too cheeky. They’ll make this game dead fast, then watch the Panthers bake in the afternoon sun.

The Barry

Tips: Sea Eagles, Storm
Only three more games to go – as much as I’ve moaned about the footy this year – and I have – I’m going to miss it.

What an intriguing weekend this will be.

Friday night sees the Rabbitohs taking on the Sea Eagles. Both teams have looked off the pace at various times. Manly had their disastrous start to the season and last week’s win against an under-strength Roosters was their first in seven attempts against top-five sides.

Souths have regularly run up scores against lesser teams, but had 50 put on them by the Storm and Panthers in quick succession. Yet, here we are – one of these teams will be competing for the premiership.

Franking a form line here is pretty tough. Manly were victims of a Week 1 Stormolition, but immediately turned the tables and toyed with the Roosters. Are they genuine contenders or flat-track bullies?

(Photo by Jono Searle/Getty Images)

For their part, the Rabbitohs have traded on their attack all season. “We don’t care if you score 20, we’ll put 40 on you.” That style of footy isn’t often successful in September, though, and when Latrell Mitchell flushed his season, it looked like he’d taken Souths’ with him.

But they showed up in Week 1 with an absolutely inspiring semi-final style defensive effort against the Panthers. But with the Panthers only scoring eight last week, was it their flat attack as responsible as Souths’ inspired defence?

All this is prevaricating though as I find this a genuine coin flip. Forced to pick (and I am), I’ll lean towards Manly by a bit of Turbo magic.

The game that earlier in the season most people had pegged as the grand final comes a week early. Mid-season both these teams were flexing hard and putting scores on all comers. Both had a large Origin contingent. That’s new territory for the Panthers and Ivan Cleary but business as usual for Craig Bellamy and his Storminators, and it’s shown since.

The Storm have cruised into September, swiftly set aside the team most likely in Week 1 and had a week off to get set for yet another long weekend appearance. The Panthers have struggled for mojo, battled injuries to key personnel and wobbled their way through a 1-1 September.

The Panthers have a gun side and their defence is still firing, so maybe this has the makings of a classic ambush. I don’t see it that way, though.

The Storm’s defence is just as good and their attacking is humming. Threats all over park and on the bench. While I can’t see the Penrith getting flogged, I see the Stormnado getting to an early lead and not taking their foot off the throat until the job’s done.

Scott Pryde

Tips: Sea Eagles, Storm
The first match this weekend strikes me as one which should be very entertaining, as long as Tom Trbojevic puts on his normal performance, rather than one he dished out against the Storm in the qualifying final a fortnight ago.

Even with Trbojevic at full flight, though, the Rabbitohs remain an excellent chance.

Their defence was superb against the Panthers a fortnight ago, and they will be well-rested. No team has made the grand final without a week’s rest since the Cowboys did it in 2017.

History, a dominant left edge and Cody Walker are all working against the Sea Eagles, however, the forwards of Manly were superb last week, and if that continues, there is no reason Trbojevic and Daly Cherry-Evans can’t find a way to pick up the win, so I’ll take the upset.

In the other game, though, it’s hard to see a way the Storm don’t progress to the grand final. Penrith have been clunky in attack at best the last two weeks, and while there is no reason they can’t return to their best, doing it against the Storm will be a serious challenge.

Melbourne have been at their fiery best and have had the week off. They blew Manly off the park a fortnight ago, and did similar to the Panthers last time the two sides met.

With the Storm at full strength, they will win and win well.

David Holden

Tips: Rabbitohs, Storm
Well, we are just three games away from the end of the season and I am going to need a minor miracle to knock over the Barry and the Crowd now. I need to talk to Scott about perhaps adding on Bathurst, the T20 World Cup, the Ashes, that type of thing. Just keep going until I get in front… simples.

On the footy front, we have got two exciting prelims this weekend. My first thought was these are both 50-50s, my second thought is that you never ever tip against the team that’s had the week off to rest and recuperate.

We get the Rabbits and the Sea Eagles first up on Friday night. The Rabbits were really impressive against the Panthers, and it was their defence that stood out the most.

For most of the year, the Rabbits have just backed themselves to score more points than the other team. Defence didn’t seem a focus. That all changed against the Panthers. The question is whether Wayne Bennett can get his team up to do it all again.

After being a self-proclaimed herd of deer in the headlights against the Storm, the Sea Eagles dismantled the Roosters last weekend. The Sea Eagles pack got on top and DCE and Tommy Turbo had days out.

Dylan Walker and the Sea Eagles celebrate a try. (Photo by Matt Roberts/Getty Images)

If the Sea Eagles have a weakness, it is their right edge defence. Unfortunately for them, the Rabbits’ left edge attack is one of the best in the competition.

I think the Souths pack will at least share the honours with Manly. If they do, they will continue to go at the Sea Eagles right edge and it will eventually tell.

The Rabbits in a tight one.

For the second prelim, we get afternoon football. The Storm and Panthers were just about everyone’s pick for the grand final. Only one of them will get that far.

The Storm looked like premiership winners against Manly. They blew them away early and then eased into a slow torture of Manly’s soul.

They give you nothing and then have a number of match-winners in attack. The return to form of Ryan Papenhuyzen would also strike fear into the remaining teams. Josh Addo-Carr is back and the Storm are at full strength.

The Panthers fought hard for the win against the Eels but it still appears their mojo has deserted them at the worst time of year.

Jarome Luai, Viliame Kikau and the remaining edge players need to regather their confidence in record time this week to challenge the Storm. If not, the Storm will be too good.

Fatigue has to be a factor at the back end of this one. I think the Storm will win the premiership again and, for that to happen, they need to win the prelim. They will get home by a couple of converted tries.

Mary Konstantopoulos

Tips: Rabbitohs, Storm
If you are a Panthers fan, there must be some slight apprehension given the lack of points in the last two weeks. I’m tipping the Storm here because they have been the most dominant team all year by far and will have benefited from a week off.

Penrith will be bruised and tired after a physical match against Parramatta. I can’t see them doing enough to beat the Storm.

This may sound clichéd, but this game will be won in the first 20 minutes. Manly are not flat-track bullies, but if they are on top after 20 minutes have a habit of going on with it.

Souths have demonstrated these last couple of weeks that their defence is good enough to match it with the competition front runners. No doubt they will start the game physical and tough. If that happens, Souths go on to win the footy game.

Finals Wk 3 AJ Mary David The Barry Scott Crowd
SOU v MAN SOU SOU SOU MAN MAN ?
MEL v PEN MEL MEL MEL MEL MEL ?
Last week 2 1 2 2 2 2
Total 121 142 147 151 131 151

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The Crowd Says:

2021-09-26T11:42:10+00:00

BillV

Guest


How wrong that was. Switch the words ‘Penrith’ and ‘Storm’ and it’s 100% spot on.

2021-09-26T11:35:58+00:00

BillV

Guest


I think you might end up needing the Kleenex, Danielle.

2021-09-24T09:56:18+00:00

The Final Word

Roar Rookie


[Oops! Not the Live scores blog}

2021-09-24T09:51:36+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


It absolutely sucks… but I reckon it’s still better than not making it…

2021-09-24T08:09:52+00:00

Big Mig

Roar Rookie


It's souths, pronounce the "th" as in "souTHS" . Easy.

2021-09-24T07:58:45+00:00

The Final Word

Roar Rookie


Hardly, mate. Even the Storm wouldn't be able to finish a top 4 side only 10 mins into a game. Kick off is at 7:50pm, remember?

2021-09-24T07:56:57+00:00

The Final Word

Roar Rookie


I have never experienced a GF loss, and I'm not keen to ever experience one. That said, there is a prelim final to win tonight against a worthy opponent who deserves respect. I can't get too far ahead of myself. One game at a time. I was at the 2014 prelim final against the Roosters with my son. It was a magic night and a memorable experience. I would love to a GF, but I haven't been to one yet either. One day though. Funny enough, as I now live in Brisbane, this year might be the last chance I get. Go the Bunnies!

2021-09-24T07:50:03+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


It’s always disappointing to lose, but yes I loved being in the grand final, I loved the build up through the week and despite Souths being the better team, we were in the game up to our necks for 70 minutes. So yeah, disappointed with the result but overall did enjoy it. Would I prefer we’d won? Of course Would I prefer to be in the grand final and lose than not make it at all? Absolutely

2021-09-24T02:15:24+00:00

The Final Word

Roar Rookie


Did you enjoy "the experience" in 2014 TB? Be honest. :silly: All I can say is that IF Souths do make the GF but fall at the last hurdle, THAT will be a new "experience" for me. I have been following the Rabbitohs since 1970, and they have a 100% win record in GFs in that time... 1970, 1971 and 2014.

2021-09-24T01:59:40+00:00

Forty Twenty

Roar Rookie


Should be 50 nil if you consider who is coaching the Bunnies. 65 nil if Mitchell was playing. If Turbo goes down early, it could be 110 to nil.

2021-09-24T01:49:29+00:00

rayner

Roar Rookie


One salient point to realise: Since the Round 11 game against Penrith in Dubbo, Souths have the best defensive and attacking record in the competition. That is over 15 games.

2021-09-24T01:43:18+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


:laughing: Yep…refs fault locked and loaded Good luck for tonight. I think it’s a pretty good story for either of tonight’s teams to make a GF. I remember what it’s like to still be alive at this time of year… try and enjoy the experience win, lose or draw…

2021-09-24T01:37:43+00:00

The Final Word

Roar Rookie


Me too mate. Souths could be given a 30 point head start, but I would still be nervous. Such is the pressure of sudden death finals football. No second chances. The club’s season comes down to one game at a time. It’s what we all wait for and are drawn to. Even when our own sides are eliminated. Just like in that movie Highlander, there can be only one! Go the Bunnies!

2021-09-24T01:31:05+00:00

The Final Word

Roar Rookie


Mark my words... if the Storm start fast and apply scoreboard pressure early, the Panthers will crack. As we all saw in their qualifying final against the Bunnies, the Panthers don't like to get into an arm wrestle. They like to play off a wave of confidence which is best fed when teams panic in defence, make mistakes to feed them possession and allow the Panthers to score back-to-back points. The Panthers don't like chasing a lead. They lack patience and maturity to grind a win out. I believe that Storm will win the 2nd preliminary final comfortably. The pressure is too great for teams to go the long way around and play 3 tough games of finals football in successive weeks without a rest. Manly will not have suffered as much as the Panthers, though, as they had a soft run against the Roosters. The Panthers though IMO are spent. Ivan Cleary has created too much of a negative distraction in the Panthers 2021 finals run that can only be to their detriment. Especially for such a young and inexperienced side that thrive on stability and order, instead they have been surrounded by chaos and uncertainty and have become the new club that every NRL supporter loves to hate. If there was a Dally M award for coaches who found a way to scuttle their teams' premiership chances, then Ivan Cleary would be the winner in 2021 and have his name carved next to the inaugural winner, Anthony Seibold in his last year as the Rabbitohs head coach.

2021-09-24T01:23:54+00:00

kk

Roar Pro


Excellent words, TFW. I have to stop myself looking at the clock every five minutes.

2021-09-24T01:17:13+00:00

The Final Word

Roar Rookie


Souths need to keep both the Turbo and the Saab in the garage, kk. Don't let either of them see clear space. That, and Souths need to control possession. 52% possession was all Souths needed to beat the Panthers in a tight game. If Souths don't want to risk this game going down to the wire, then they need to start fast and dominate possession (60% plus) and stay error free. IF they finish the game with 55% plus possession with a high completion rate, few errors and a 50/50 share of the penalties they should finish well on top IMO. Just like in the 2nd prelim final, the first 20 mins will be key. Expect both the sides that had a week off to start like they were fired out of a cannon and try to overwhelm the finals footy fatigued sides early. Manly have had a great season, turning a 0-4 start to the season around without Turbo to finish 4th on the ladder and make it to the preliminary final. But the inconvenient truth is that Turbo and DCE are their only real x-factor players and the speed of both Saab and Garrick whilst frightening can be contained if Souths get their defence right. They just have to follow the Storm's blueprint and starve Manly of the ball. When they do get it, they need to cover Turbo and be careful of short attacking kicks. Especially long kicks to the far wing, where Saab will be ready to pounce. I think if Taaffe was a kid who would easily crack under pressure, then that would have happened after he dropped his first bomb of the game in the qualifying final. He showed his true colours then, and he will do the same tonight. I can only see Taaffe improving in confidence and in his performance with each game he plays. He knows that the team and the coach all have his back. He only has to perform his role in the side. No one is expecting him to be Latrell or Turbo.

2021-09-24T01:07:20+00:00

Willie La'ulu

Roar Guru


Agree on the Panthers not curling up, for sure they won't. If they can manage to win this game, after the 2 games they've gone through, then win a 4th tight game, they will be very deserving of that premiership ring.

2021-09-24T01:02:48+00:00

The Final Word

Roar Rookie


You wouldn't have done as well in the tipping competition if you didn't TB. The Rabbitohs have won 20 games this year. Only one less than either the Storm or the Panthers. My tipping ranking might dip at the back end of the season though, as I tipped against the Bunnies in the qualifying final and may repeat the same formula for luck in their last two games of 2021 (assuming they win tonight). I'm happy to take one for the team, though. Too bad that no matter which team progresses from the 1st preliminary final, they will have no chance of getting a fair call from the referees, irrespective of whether their opponents are the Storm or the Panthers. Much less though if it is the Panthers and Klein and Atkins are making the calls. Gerard Sutton gave Souths a fair go against the Panthers, but will be under pressure to go against his nature if the Storm are the second team to go through to the GF decider. Have I set the narrative sufficiently now, TB? :laughing:

2021-09-24T00:49:25+00:00

Bonza

Roar Rookie


The great Zorba Peter Peters recently wondered why Suli / Walker weren't the starting centres anyway. Definitely offer a lot more in attack and couldn't be worse in defence...probably.

2021-09-24T00:22:34+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


Haha… glad to help For the record I’ve tipped Souths far more than against them this year…

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