Winning a premiership should be a cherry on top of a player’s résumé, rather than a token used to validate a career. Patrick Dangerfield and Lance Franklin are two of the top 15 players since the turn of the century, yet the 2022 AFL Grand Final is being positioned as a landmark occasion for both.
In Dangerfield, we have one of the best midfielders in modern history who, for one reason or another, irks opposition fans.
As such, many overlook his stellar achievements – he’s an eight-time All-Australian, four-time best and fairest, a Brownlow Medallist, an AFLCA Champion Player of the Year and a Leigh Matthews Trophy winner.
It’s a mystery as to why Dangerfield receives the amount of criticism he does. Legitimate reasons are rare, although it’s easy enough to not put any weight into the large majority who recycle the same, nonsense material.
More specifically to the point however, this Saturday’s season finale is going to have very little reputational influence on the perception of Dangerfield as a player.
Of course, we tend to get caught up in the moment and recency bias is the be-all and end-all.
If Geelong is unsuccessful, the microscope will be on how the 32-year-old plays, no doubt with negative tints on the lens. He could win the Norm Smith on a losing team and be criticised for not dragging his club over the line.
Similarly, a win for the Cats and an average Dangerfield performance will be met with equal criticism. Calls of being “carried to a flag” will no doubt spring to mind.
Ultimately, it’s a lose-lose unless he’s best on ground in a win, which is entirely possible, yet realistically, irrelevant.
Because perception is only really a “right now” sort of thing. Whether it actually holds any weight can be questioned itself, but people are only really interested in talking about what’s right in front of them.
When Dangerfield retires, maybe give it a couple of years post-AFL exit, the masses will remember him fondly, with his peak almost untouchable.
Between 2012 and 2019, the veteran played 184 games. In that time, he averaged 27.43 disposals, 6.33 clearances and 5.6 inside 50s.
He kicked 212 goals, had 128 goal assists and polled 200 Brownlow votes.
The fact this is only his second Grand Final isn’t his doing, it speaks to the inbuilt difficulty in the AFL, where even very, very good teams find it tough to reach the pinnacle.
Upon reflection, Dangerfield’s status as a premiership player or otherwise is likely a footnote on an illustrious career, a trivia novelty question that will label him as unlucky, rather than place the blame solely on his shoulders if his ventures are unsuccessful.
Consider the reaction when premierships are used to compare players, how meaninglessly weighted the majority feel such discourse is to achieving glory when in reality, a team game dictates a player’s success in this category, rather than the player themselves.
St Kilda has won one premiership in its history. Does that mean the likes of Nick Riewoldt, Robert Harvey and even Tony Lockett are lesser players than others who have won a flag?
Ultimately, many will feel inclined to be critical of Dangerfield either way by the end of Saturday’s game when in reality, the result has no influence on his overall standing as a legendary AFL figure at all.
Hindsight will remember him with fondness once his playing days are over regardless. There’s just a part of avid AFL fans that wish all the champions of the game could experience the team success they deserve.
Franklin, on the other hand, is a different kettle of fish altogether.
Can you believe that there are still a minority who believe his move to Sydney has been a failure?
Buddy’s nine-year deal was ridiculous at the time, an impossibility to be seen out. His re-signing for a 10th season as the Swans is telling.
Let’s be pretty blunt here – the acquisition of Lance Franklin has been an absolute success for Sydney and again, the premiership is simply a cherry on top, rather than the final marker to determine the trade’s validity.
Having arguably the highest-profile player move to a state that is continuing to fight for its fans despite the club’s incredible consistency as a powerhouse has been incredibly beneficial.
Franklin’s a rockstar in a sport that only has a couple at any given time. Remember, this isn’t the NBA with franchise stars all of the country, or soccer with global recognisability.
The 35-year-old transcends the sport where he kicks a ball through, hopefully, the two big sticks in the middle and the impact he has had on Sydney has gone beyond that.
By the end of his career, he’ll have spent more time in New South Wales than he did in Victoria, albeit having played fewer games at his current club.
A third premiership this weekend will only serve as a way to describe him in the future, but it won’t affect his legacy at the Swans.
Perhaps it’s what Hawthorn fans are most scared of – winning a premiership at Sydney means he will have done it at both clubs and will perhaps, in their eyes, solidify Franklin as being remembered for his exploits in red and white.
Of course, unlike Dangerfield, Franklin’s stature in the game in the eyes of AFL fans is set in stone.
All Australian on eight occasions, a Coleman Medallist four times and a club-leading goal-kicker 12 times with the potential for a 13th in his final season, Buddy is one of the greatest forwards of all time.
He has 100-plus goals at four venues, has the most Brownlow votes in history by a forward and will have kicked the fourth-most goals in the history of the VFL/AFL.
And really, if we’re talking about legacies, that’s what will be remembered.
You can associate Franklin with the Hawks or the Swans and either way, you’d be right.
A premiership doesn’t actually change that, nor does it change whether Sydney should have got him in the first place.
When the players are as good as the likes of Dangerfield and Franklin, we quickly realise that their careers aren’t going to be defined by what happens this Saturday.
When we think about the legends of the game, we don’t measure them by the Premierships they’ve won or lost. We don’t look at their specific performances in a certain game, nor does anyone with a clue compare players by this metric.
Footy is a team game and a premiership is ultimate reward for team success.
We’re talking about two of the greatest players to ever play the game and that transcends how their team plays in any specific year.
Whoever has a premiership medal around their neck come the end of the 2022 season will have to find more space in the pool room.
But Patrick Dangerfield and Lance Franklin have enough accolades to cement their on-field legacies as two of the very best and Saturday simply won’t change that.
Roger of Sydney
Roar Rookie
George, i was not saying Danger had or ever has tapered off anywhere, he always gives 120% that's what I like about him
George Apps
Roar Rookie
IMO, Dangerfied has not tapered off, he has become a more valued player since crossing to the Cats. Saturday was the "cream on the cake."
Cat
Roar Guru
Which isn’t valued here.
Mr Right
Roar Rookie
Like the minor premiership?
Cat
Roar Guru
The point is obviously yet the Super Bowl, nba championship, World Series title or Stanley cup is bigger and the ultimate prise but Americans don’t see anything other than the ultimate as losing. There are accomplishments along the way to be proud of.
Mr Right
Roar Rookie
Baseball finally stopped ignoring Bill James & the Red Sox got him on the payroll!!
Mr Right
Roar Rookie
Being a conference winner or winning the pennant doesn't make you the best team in the national competition. The Superbowl title or the world series champions ensures you are the best team. Quite regularly you read about teams winning a weak conference. But I do understand the point you are making, as the USA has 12 x times our population their is a need for multiple competitions / conferences.
Mr Right
Roar Rookie
Dangerfield be forever disappointed if he doesn't achieve GF success. But if he gives it his all today & still doesn't achieve that premiership medal, do you think he will be considered less a player by footy experts?
Matthew Younan
Roar Rookie
Well written piece Dem. Well done! I agree both Dangerfield and Franklin are superstars of the game regardless of what happens in the Grand Final.
Brendon the 1st
Roar Rookie
Can you name a player that's tapered off? I actually can't think of one
Brendon the 1st
Roar Rookie
"Danger couldn't care what other think of his legacy" Huh? We talking about the same bloke, the danger show? Head of the AFLPA, enormous head wobbler? Surely you jest
Brendon the 1st
Roar Rookie
I say that all the time, he's a spud, gets the ball 30 times and burns it 15, not my kinda player
Brendon the 1st
Roar Rookie
Putting buddy and the danger show in the same article is blasphemy One is a future legend, and possibly the best footy player of all time and the other one can't kick for suds, burns team mates and has never contributed to a premiership, all whilst strutting around like a two dingered peacock.
Chancho
Roar Rookie
I don't know if this is out of line with what you guys are chatting about but take Jordan Lewis, he appears as a regular on panel shows and is introduced as ' four-time GF winner, Jordan Lewis' which gives his comments gravity... now, he was a very good footballer, but I don't consider him anywhere as good a footballer as Dangerfield, and his introduction on any panel won't be as good as Jordan's. Not sure why I'm bringing it up here, but it made me think of perception
1dawg
Roar Rookie
Both are cult hero’s. I’m calling it even
Mr Right
Roar Rookie
Bobby Skilton won 3 Brownlows & was named in the AFL team of the Century. You might rank him below Matt Spangher due to him not achieving premiership success. But I imagine major AFL experts might not agree with you.
mrl
Roar Rookie
Playing for your country is the pinnacle of any sport…surely.
PeteB
Roar Rookie
The Cats missed finals in 2015 and were on the slide. I see 2016 onwards as their second renaissance and a Danger led recovery.
Davico
Roar Pro
Hi I’m Homer, I don’t have the minerals to register and sign in the harder way as a guest so I can’t be held to account. Jog on
Davico
Roar Pro
Have you been to the new stadium? I can tell you that the WS banners are way more prominent than the ALCS ones. Not sure who you are talking to, but they sound like the fans who just have a chip about Boston and are not actual Yankees fans