Is there a need to have a backup allrounder and should it really be Mitch Marsh?

By PSha / Roar Rookie

After a four-year hiatus from the longest format, Mitchell Marsh has been picked in Australia’s 17-man World Test Championship Final and Ashes squad.

The chair of the national selection panel, George Bailey stated that the need for a backup all-rounder was a key reason for choosing to place the younger Marsh brother in the squad.

Marsh’s selection and Bailey’s reasoning bring forth two questions – the first question is whether there is a constant need to have an allrounder in the team even if that player may not be one of the best available players in the country and the second is that if there must always be an allrounder in the playing XI then is Marsh truly the right candidate to be the backup allrounder?

Mitchell Marsh. (Photo by Alex Davidson/Getty Images)

Cameron Green is a unicorn. Green is in the team because he is genuinely one of the best eleven players in the country and not just because he can provide with both bat and ball.

The 6 foot 8 Western Australian has a Sheffield Shield batting average of 52.97 and a 32.12 bowling average along with a very promising start to his Test career.

He is one of the top 6 batsmen in the country and is a more than capable bowler. Green can bat with gritty determination, brilliant temperament, and excellent technique. He bowls 140KMPH with accurate line and lengths and catches everything that comes his way at gully.

Having an allrounder just for the sake of having an allrounder is not a worthwhile endeavour. In Test Cricket, allrounders need to have at least one skill that is good enough to get them into the team even if they did not bat or bowl.

Otherwise, the allrounder is nothing more than a ‘bits and pieces’ player and a net-negative in the longest format in comparison to what a specialist with only one primary skill can bring.

Australia’s obsession with an allrounder in the past is what lead to Mitch Marsh having an incredibly long rope in the Test team and saw him have the unenviable record of the lowest batting average of any Australian batsman in the top six to play more than 40 innings since 1896.

From 2019 until Green’s debut in December 2020 against India, Australia maintained a policy of picking teams with 6 specialist batsmen and 4 bowlers. In the 13 Tests that Australia played in that period, they fielded an allrounder only once during the 2019 Ashes Test at The Oval where the Aussies were beaten by 135 runs.

In the 12 games where an allrounder did not play in that period, Australia won 9, drew 2, and lost 1 game.

While eight out of the 13 games in this time period did occur in Australia and thus meant that Australia did have the advantage in the majority of these matches, it still does show that the Aussies can win without having an allrounder in their side. Especially when considering that in the last Ashes series in England, both of Australia’s wins came when not fielding an allrounder.

Even if we were to say that having an allrounder is of paramount importance to the balance of the Test team, is Mitch Marsh truly the best allrounder available for selection after Green? The clear logic behind Marsh being the preferred allrounder is that he has performed well in England.

Even then his stellar performances have come with a ball in hand and not with the bat.

In four Test matches in England, Marsh has a bowling average of 14.83 with 15 wickets and a batting average of 14.83 across 6 innings. A Test average of 25.20 and 14.83 batting average is not exactly ideal for a player that may be looked to bat in the top 6 or 7 of the lineup.

With Marsh’s best coming with the ball in England, it is concerning that his bowling workloads haven’t been anywhere near what would be required of him if he had to step into the Test arena once more since he has only played a single First-Class game in the past two years. In ODI cricket from 2021 to the present, Marsh hasn’t once bowled out the full quota of 10 overs in a game.

Mitchell Marsh and Shaun Marsh are feeling the heat. (Photo by Lee Warren/Gallo Images/Getty Images)

Marsh has also only recently resumed bowling again in the IPL for the Delhi Capitals after ankle surgery to an injury sustained in the first match of the Australia vs Zimbabwe ODI series in August 2022 that saw him play with the injury for over 12 months. Marsh has also had extensive injury lay-offs in the past.

The allrounder was sent home from the 2017 tour of India due to a shoulder injury and has had ankle issues in the past as well. Marsh was ruled out of a county stint with Surrey and the tours limited-overs tours of England and Zimbabwe in 2017.

In 2020, he rolled his ankle in his first over for the Sunrisers Hyderabad which led to him being sidelined for the rest of the IPL. Marsh’s injury history and lack of Test match-level workload poses a serious threat of re-injury.

Let’s of course all touch wood and hope that nothing untoward was to happen to Cameron Green or to any player for that matter. However, if for some reason Australia did need to call upon Cameron Green’s reserve, the decision to pick Marsh for the Ashes for team balance reasons is a gamble that may backfire.

The Crowd Says:

2023-04-27T08:40:32+00:00

Rowdy

Roar Rookie


Oh, l thought he had been a handy 8 or 9

2023-04-27T08:01:40+00:00

DaveJ

Roar Rookie


For a small proportion of games, and down the order, not as an all-rounder.

2023-04-26T08:16:17+00:00

DTM

Roar Rookie


Sorry, coming a bit late to this conversation but I think you're spot on here. Bailey & co have assumed that England will prepare flat tracks based on Ben Stokes comments a few weeks ago (wanting hard, fast wickets). As the Ashes will be played a little later in the English summer than normal, there is a possibility that some of the pitches will be like this. So, I'm assuming the selectors reasoning is that they will be good batting pitches so (if Green is injured), Marsh could be given the license to bat to his strengths - which is aggressively. Also, Marsh will be good to have in the dressing room. On the other hand, this was a perfect opportunity to expose Hardie to the squad at the next level. He has a better batting technique, is capable of bowling 20 overs in a day if required and is much more agile in the field. Personally, I'd have gone with Hardie (despite him only having an average SS season).

2023-04-25T03:47:45+00:00

Nobody likes a smarta*s

Roar Rookie


Pull the other one. Marsh to open in test cricket? Now I have heard everything

2023-04-24T10:27:41+00:00

Opeo

Roar Rookie


If Harris is a step down from international quality then Marsh is a step down from domestic quality. I am not sure you understood what I was saying. Marsh would struggle to get a gig as a batsmen in a strong Shield team. The idea that he could bat in the top five of the test team is ridiculous. I only listed Victorians because with full availability, Victoria’s batting is absolutely stacked and does not include any of the regular test XI. I am not convinced that he is in WA’s best XI anymore either, and there are players playing for every state that are better with the bat than him.

2023-04-24T08:22:49+00:00

Rowdy

Roar Rookie


Roger Harper says "Hi"

2023-04-24T06:58:51+00:00

boes

Roar Pro


I'm not sure how serious I am either but none of the guys you mentioned have been selected except for Harris and I feel he is a step down from international quality.

2023-04-24T06:32:13+00:00

Opeo

Roar Rookie


I am not sure how serious you are but there are, without exaggeration, 20 guys that should objectively be ahead of Marsh if there is a spot available in the top five. Marsh would not even get a run in the top five of the Victorian side if Pucovski, Harris, Maddinson, Handscomb, and Maxwell were all playing.

2023-04-24T06:14:56+00:00

boes

Roar Pro


Marsh to replace Warner. Right handed aggressive against the new ball to complement the koalas left handed silk. Couldn't be worse than Davey and could be the baz...I mean Ronnie ball start we need

2023-04-22T10:12:03+00:00

Doctor Rotcod

Roar Rookie


So was Thomas Hearns.

2023-04-21T22:51:36+00:00

Ian_

Roar Rookie


I doubt that is the case. If Green needed to be subbed out, he'd just be replaced by a specialist batsman.

2023-04-21T15:14:03+00:00

Opeo

Roar Rookie


There is not enough love for the option to include a fifth bowler, or a bowling all rounder.

2023-04-21T14:52:48+00:00

Nobody likes a smarta*s

Roar Rookie


True. I recall the days of Greg Matthews and Murray Bennett and Gary Gilmour before them - they were discussing the benefit of their all-round skills. But the Green machine is our best since Miller I reckon. Marsh is a very distant 3rd best after Hardie

2023-04-21T13:48:46+00:00

Timmuh

Roar Guru


The obsession of having a no-rounder has been there far longer than that. It even pre-dates extending Watson's Test career many years outside his 18 months of genuine top six usefulness.

2023-04-21T09:20:35+00:00

Nobody likes a smarta*s

Roar Rookie


The probability of requiring a concussion sub is low, so I do not think that is the reason. I think they are responding to bazball mania by selecting MM; and they are stupid enough to do that

2023-04-21T09:11:14+00:00

Nobody likes a smarta*s

Roar Rookie


Yep, Davey boy is another one. Crap at test cricket for the past few years and still playing in the IPL

2023-04-21T08:06:27+00:00

Mick Jeffrey

Roar Rookie


Simple answer to the question is a backup AR is required to cover off concussion sub possibilities (if Green was KOed then an all rounder has to replace him, not a specialist bat or bowl). Whether Marsh is the best choice remains to be seen with his lack of bowling recently.

2023-04-21T05:51:04+00:00

mrl

Roar Rookie


David Warner.

2023-04-21T04:54:43+00:00

Nobody likes a smarta*s

Roar Rookie


Neser would have made a lot more sense

2023-04-21T04:25:16+00:00

Nobody likes a smarta*s

Roar Rookie


Hitting in batsmen-friendly white ball games does not mean you will succeed in red-ball games. Think Aaron Finch

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