In an age of greater safety concerns and compliance, you’d think rugby players might start becoming smaller. Laws will evolve to reduce the impact of collisions and the speed of the game will accelerate as size, while still important, becomes less paramount.
The gargantuan World Rugby Under 20 champions France blows this theory to smithereens. They were so big and so good they’d beat some NPC sides and would properly give a couple of Super Rugby stragglers a decent run. Tamati Williams recently became a new All Blacks prop. He’s 144kg.
A glorious afternoon at Coxs Bay Reserve, Auckland. The Under 85kg Premier final between Ponsonby and Pakuranga was a fierce, fast, skilful contest won bravely by Ponsonby 10-3.
Athletic, determined men of diverse ages and ethnicities, but relatively similar sized, exerting themselves and entertaining others meaningfully. The trophy at stake dates to 1898.
The ruck contest was particularly engrossing. It was actually a contest. The scrap for the ball, the one thing that distinguishes Union from League, was immense. Monotonous mauls were strangely absent too.
In the highest ranks of professionalism, there still exists exceptional breakdown foraging. More often, than not, however, we’re subject to a wall of muscle spreading itself out, standing to attention and waiting to belt the next mercenary that dears try to crack it. Dozens of phases going nowhere. Injures stockpiling.
Not in the 85s. Sometimes it appears there are 30 flankers on the field as possession is frantically pursued in every tackle, tackles that still hurt.
Why does this matter?
In New Zealand, player numbers are tumbling. According to the New Zealand Rugby Annual Report in 2022 overall playing numbers decreased from 158,409 in 2021 to 147, 847 last year. No doubt some of this decline can be attributed to the impact of Covid.
While the growth of women’s rugby is encouraging there was no specific commentary on male participation rates.
Further digging reveals some alarming trends. Numbers in secondary school participation have decreased by almost a quarter in a dozen years. The game is good at attracting young players, just not keeping them, and figures compiled in 2018 showed that while there were close to 10,000 registered 10-year-olds that year, there were only 3000 18-year-olds.
Any number of factors could be responsible for the decline, including cost of living pressures and other recreational choices. Surely another reason is the sheer size of rugby players and the fear of being ‘smashed’ all the time.
Rugby was always a game played by people of all shapes, sizes, and weights. A healthy 85kg battler trying to stop a 140kg behemoth is usually a hopeless cause for the former.
To crack the elite game today, or even survive amateur seniors, requires strict adherence to a refined science of physical preparation only enjoyed by those with singular dedication and access to diet, resources, and knowledge that allows them to become really big.
The average weight of a rugby international increased from 84.8kg in 1995 to 105.4kg in 2015, and it’s still growing.
Rugby has weight-restricted grades. Generally, they’re the domain of children and teenagers. Why? Combat sports like boxing have weight-restricted competition that attracts just as much interest as heavyweight tussles.
Sir Graham Henry recognised this. In 2021 he was instrumental in establishing a National Under 85kg competition which is growing. This year a national side will be selected. Suddenly a viable alternative is opening for those of smaller or average weight to compete, stay, and maybe one day get paid in the game they love.
Let’s get more ambitious. It’s time for an Under 85kg Bledisloe Cup. Call it the ‘George.’ That is the George Gregan/George Nepia trophy – two iconic players from each country under 85kg separated by nearly a century. That’s proof little guys can be enduringly successful.
Forwards might complain one is a halfback, the other a fullback. Sir John Graham could replace Nepia. The name of the trophy is not an essential point now.
Acknowledging that super-sized rugby is not for everyone is crucial. Weight-restricted contests with good athletes, marketing imagination, and competitive opportunities can boost numbers and thrive. Maybe for once, Australia could win too.
Nate
Roar Rookie
85kg?…. Maybe 90-92kg would be more realistic, but then those excluded would become a minority. Most nowadays are in the gym in high school and are (well) over 85kg at 18+.
Megeng
Roar Rookie
There would be a market for midget goal kickers!
Rusty
Roar Guru
That is an interesting concept... if we were going all shapes and sizes a 2 ton limit for the match day 23 would make it interesting Avg 87kg but that gives you leeway for a few pack heavies up front but you would have to thin down elsewhere
Spew_81
Roar Rookie
I imagine open grades will still exist. Even at school they had both open and weight grades.
Brumby Jack's acquaintance
Roar Rookie
Awesome idea. Having competed myself in a weight restricted sport it will show the most combative players rather than just the biggest. Also, renews my dreams of one day being a prop (unfortunately age not kind in that regard)
Megeng
Roar Rookie
Nice idea. However you’d have to think Rugby league would also be pretty interesting at under 85kg. If you took both codes to under 75kg, you’d have touch. You could also limit the team weight to 1275kg, and let them figure out their own distribution of players.
JD Kiwi
Roar Rookie
Now you've written this it seems obvious. It has to happen! And a match against Japan!
Rusty
Roar Guru
Mate this is a cracking idea
pm
Roar Rookie
Well researched and a great idea :thumbup: :thumbup: :rugby:
Phil
Roar Rookie
I loved this article Adam. Very insightful and meaningful. I believe the New Zealand Barbarians rugby club, that my grandfather was a part of, sponsor Under 85s tournaments in Auckland and NZ. Would be great if we had them here in Aus too.
Tooly
Roar Rookie
It’s called Soccer !
Peter Darrow
Roar Guru
I wrote a similar article a while back Adam, so with more pressure maybe this could happen. https://www.theroar.com.au/2022/09/20/under-85kg-rugby-where-size-doesnt-count/
Mistermouse
Roar Rookie
No issue with this idea if it becomes 85s and open. As a big kid, I have deep and permanent scars caused by hostile opposition parents questioning my age, my size, everything about me in one of the Other Codes. I had to front a disciplinary hearing age 11 at a district level to interrogate whether I was truly the age I said I was. Rugby is the only sport which has historically welcomed those of all shapes and sizes, each with their own advantages. Losing that would be tragic. That said, 7s has flourished without hurting the XVs game too much so if it can be the same for 85s then why not...
Nick Lindenberg
Roar Rookie
Great idea!
Jacko
Roar Rookie
Nice work mate. I enjoyed contemplating the results of such a move.
Kashmir Pete
Roar Guru
Adam Logged on specifically to express thanks for this article. Deserves wider interest! Congrats KP
Cam
Roar Rookie
Under 85kg in NZ, so you are talking U10s?
Spew_81
Roar Rookie
Under 85kg rugby is a great way for players who aren't giants/budding professionals to keep playing rugby. It should be supported by the NZRU.