'I'm so pissed off': Eddie open to walking away from Wallabies if it suits RA, sticks knife into Hoops, Quade

By The Roar / Editor

Eddie Jones may have coached his last Test for the Wallabies with reports he is open to strike a deal with Rugby Australia over an early exit from his contract in the wake of the team’s World Cup failure. 

The Sydney Morning Herald says Jones is open to moving on from the role after he has been continuously linked to returning to Japan to oversee the national team. Jones continues to deny any link with that job and gave a feisty interview, also in the Herald with former Wallaby Peter FitzSimons.

“I’m so pissed off with the situation now. I’m really pissed off with what has happened. Look, I take responsibility for the bad results,”Jones said.

“But I don’t take responsibility for 20 years of decline of Australian rugby. And that’s what’s trying to be pinned on me: 20 years of decline; that I’m an unsavoury character, all these sorts of things, and anyone that knows me knows that’s not the truth. Right?

“That’s what’s trying to be pinned on me at the moment. So I don’t really care what happens after this. But I want to make sure that we’re leaving Australian rugby in a better place. And if there’s a realisation that, yes, we need to change, then it’ll be worth what I’ve done.”

Jones was again asked about his decision to cast aside veteran players Quade Cooper, Bernard Foley for the doomed Cup campaign.

“The situation reminded me of when Wayne Bennett let Wally Lewis go. No one could quite understand why, but Wally Lewis wasn’t a great role model for the rest of the team,” Jones said.

“And for those guys, I don’t think they were the right role models for the team going forward. Don’t get me wrong. They’re not bad guys. But you need guys – particularly when you’ve got a team like Australia has at the moment – you need guys who are obsessed with winning, obsessed with being good, and those three are past those stages.”

When FitzSimons contended that Jones’ assessment of Hooper seemed harsh, the Wallabies coach replied: “I stand by it, 100 per cent. He is a great guy but the timing is not right for him.”

Jones is contracted with RA until the next World Cup on home soil in 2027 on a lucrative deal.

It’s understood Jones has clauses that allow him to walk away from the Wallabies coaching job at the end of 2023. 

The Roar understands that RA, too, has the ability to farewell Jones without paying him out in full should CEO Phil Waugh and chairman Hamish McLennan believe the coaching situation is untenable. 

Jones told the Herald that certain conditions were discussed when he accepted the job.

“When I was asked to have a look at Australia, I said I’d only do it on certain conditions. Because I’ve seen over 20 years the deterioration in Australian Rugby, while the rest of the world moved forward,”said Jones.

“There’s very few countries now that aren’t optimising the preparation with their top players. You can call it centralisation. But to me, it’s optimisation of your top players, with the national coach having control of the preparation of your best.

“You’ve seen the quality of the teams in the quarter-finals. The Wallabies can’t live with that. And the problem is our system, which is so antiquated when you compare with the rest of the world. It’s like a Toyota Corolla from decades ago, at the beginning of professionalism.

“You put the key in and it doesn’t quite work. The demister doesn’t quite work, and you’ve got to stick your hand out to turn right. No one would buy that, and we’ve still got an antiquated system from the start of professional rugby.”

Asked if he had been given the resources to change the situation, Jones replied:

“They want to change it and that obviously takes money, like anything. Yeah, they want to upgrade, to go from a Corolla to a Tesla. It takes a lot of technology, a lot of money, a lot of effort and a lot of design.

“In reality, I saw myself as a bit of a catalyst to help change that. But this is a six-year turnaround. It’s not a short turnaround. We haven’t won the World Cup in 24 years, and we haven’t won the Bledisloe in 22 years.

“Just have a look at those two stats. But to change it you need money and you need power. And in rugby, generally money drives power, not the other way around.

“Hamish McLennan and Phil Waugh, and are 100 per cent committed to doing it, but whether they can is the $64 question.”

He said he knew the size of the challenge before accepting the role.

“You’ve only got to look at it: we’ve got one Super Rugby side that bats 40 per cent against NZ sides. And the other four bat 20 per cent. So what you’re looking for is miracles. I still think I can produce miracles. But I wasn’t able to do it .Good enough.

“But there’s two parts to being committed. There’s me being committed and there’s them being committed to make the changes. And I think they are, but Australia’s a difficult environment right now, how antiquated we are in our thinking and the way we do things, and we’re still so territorial.”

One of Jones’ closest allies, Wallabies manager Chris Webb, has already departed Rugby Australia. 

Since the Wallabies’ ugly World Cup flop, the governing body has had two waves of cleanouts over the past month.

The first came in the days after the Wallabies’ pool exit earlier this month. The next has come over the past week.

The vast majority of Jones’ high-performance structure now no longer exists, including the several psychologists that were brought in to try and change the mindset of the Wallabies after years of underperformance.

That is because most were only ever signed on short-term deals given the hasty arrival of Jones as head coach.

Dan Palmer (lineout), Jason Ryles (attack) and Pierre-Henry Broncan (maul) have each finished up with the Wallabies.

Defence coach Brett Hodgson remains on the books, with the former NSW State of Origin fullback contracted through until 2024.

Strength and Conditioning coach Nigel Ashley-Jones also remains contracted.

The future of Wallabies forwards coach Neal Hatley remains unclear.

Wallabies head coach Eddie Jones. (Photo by Mark Metcalfe/Getty Images)

The experienced forwards coach is contracted until the end of November. Even now, the UK-based coach is preparing for next year’s July Tests, which includes two Tests against Wales.

Jones is overseeing the Barbarians’ exhibition match against Wales in Cardiff on November 4.

His future has been the talk of the town for the past six months ever since stating on the Evening Standard podcast with Lawrence Dallaglio that he planned on leaving his role as Wallabies coach following the 2023 Word Cup. Even before then, rumours were swirling that he would leave.

The uncertainty surrounding his future has gone into overdrive over the past six weeks following a bombshell report linking him to a return to the Japan Rugby Football Union as Jamie Joseph’s replacement as head coach.

Jones insisted afterwards he has had no contact with the JFRU despite reports saying he will participate in a second interview for the vacant role.

Before signing on as Wallabies coach, Jones was assured the game’s finances would be supercharged through an injection from private equity and reform measures to allow for greater alignment.

Neither have taken place yet despite the five Australian Super Rugby franchises in principle supporting high-performance alignment.

The lack of progress with the Super states, as well as the inability to bring in new revenue, could see Jones run out of patience and instead walk.

The Crowd Says:

2023-10-30T22:56:58+00:00

Loosey

Roar Rookie


But it would show his 'commitment' to Australian rugby.

2023-10-30T13:13:52+00:00

Sofa Coach

Roar Rookie


Guess, good point. But I think that's a slightly false argumentI. I think you're right that many didn't like that DR often gave no comment at all, leaving fans and journos frustrated at the info vacuum. But that does not mean that fans therefore longed for embarrassing, distracting side shows and offensive public optics and/or soundbites. (No doubt DR was probably the journos least preferred coach from a headline creation perspective!)

2023-10-30T07:00:11+00:00

Ken Catchpole's Other Leg

Roar Guru


cs- yes. No one necessarily ‘deserves’ a farewell tour. But to deny this Cup to Hooper Cooper and Samu on a whimsical idea that Max J, Donno, Suli and others were bankable investments was either incompetent or insane.

2023-10-30T06:16:03+00:00

signpost

Roar Rookie


Dida, we just learned again, its easier to break things than fix them.

2023-10-30T06:01:25+00:00

signpost

Roar Rookie


What has happened to the rest of Eddies RWC crew? Berrick Barnes - Kicking Consultant David Rath - Learning Coordinator John Clarke - Strength & Conditioning John Prior - Speed Consultant Warrick Harrington - Sport Scientist

2023-10-30T00:57:00+00:00

Jacko

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Yeah very true Brumbies. I certainly hadnt thought of that but I guess a WC at home is another pretty major carrot. Not a bad 4 years to be part of.

2023-10-30T00:16:05+00:00

1997 Brumbies

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Not many coaches get a Lions tour. I'd say that's RAs biggest/only carrot if they wanted to go with someone established outside of Australia.

2023-10-29T10:29:55+00:00

The Hen

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What he brought to Australia was rubbish. Poor selections, comms, tactics just dumb. Look at him blaming lack of resources on the way out. He has proved to be an incompetent narcissistic idiot who takes the media and us as silly. No thanks go away and take your political games

2023-10-29T09:48:10+00:00

Prof_Kaos

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FYI on Folau was talking about the historic pathway to RAs decline more than the incident. They almost had things turned around after making the 2015 final until the Folau BS derailed that effort. How RA didnt make sure Folau's new contract would stop him doing it again is beyond me, cost a broke RA: $5mil to IF + $1mil costs, Qantas, Castle & the best chance they'd had to right the sinking ship. On Eddie, we all know the Eddie Jones effect lasts about 3yrs so if for 2027 RWC his start yr is 2024 not 2023.

2023-10-29T09:21:48+00:00

carnivean

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Events moved too quickly on this one

2023-10-29T09:13:30+00:00

Baz

Roar Rookie


I think the Wallabies could enter a joint venture with HBO to create a mini series around the whole Eddie saga and Australia's early exit. That series is worth at least $200 million on its own. Plenty of material to work with. This story has got it all.

2023-10-29T09:08:11+00:00

Baz

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McKeller, Larkham and Fisher can be trusted and are critical to the the development of a contemporary style of game the Wallabies need to compete with the best. Don't need a full time coach yet. In the interim get Bernie to over sight Fisher as interim coach.

2023-10-29T08:52:08+00:00

TJ-Go Force!

Roar Rookie


Andy Friend did an incredible job in Ireland. IRFU was gutted to lose him. Friends in Ireland say they’ve not seen Connaught play that well in a long, long time. I like Andy Friend. I think he’s a good option. A great story too coming through AIS.

2023-10-29T05:42:15+00:00

Ken Catchpole's Other Leg

Roar Guru


Very well put, Jutsy. The rehab road back for Quade was long, lonely and deep. And he got there, with what looked like perfect preparation. Sure he was tentative. Sure he wasn’t bouncing like a young pup. But he made his tackles and his kicks for sticks, as requested, even amidst the incompetent game plans that were thrust upon him. Pretoria saw him tackle three times more than pass. That’s like putting a prop on to avoid rucks and to play halfback. Where is the defence of the fine Wallaby legacy of Hooper, Cooper, Ikitau and others? Nowhere. Up to date RA is deferring to Eddie’s toxicity and desperate post-rationalised defence, rather than upholding the little recent positive memories the public has of the Wallabies.

2023-10-28T20:44:52+00:00

mushi

Roar Guru


Look we can throw Folau under the bus for a lot of things but gee he was 14 in 2003. Hard to say the Wallabies coach for the start of the demise doesn't have some hand in the first few years especially with how forth right Eddie's style is. Fact is Eddie's "I'll take responsibility pitch" was the complete opposite.

2023-10-28T18:53:49+00:00

jameswm

Roar Guru


He promised us a Porsche

2023-10-28T17:57:46+00:00

Just Nuisance

Roar Rookie


The simple reason Eddie fired Hooper is he did not want to be challenged ..He is at heart a school teacher ..Wants to be fawned on....Wants control .. he cries systems and history ..Arguably EJ the worst thing that ever happened to Australian rugby in its history..

2023-10-28T13:18:05+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


Who were these better role models that wanted to win more that he picked instead?

2023-10-28T11:39:47+00:00

Ankle-tapped Waterboy

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This week I learned that World Rugby's core values were integrity, respect, and solidarity. Who knew? But all week I've been looking at all media articles about rugby through the lens of those values. It's been quite a ride.

2023-10-28T11:15:08+00:00

Ankle-tapped Waterboy

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