NRL Round 7 Talking Points: With big wins come big losses, and which coach is the game’s biggest sook?

By AJ Mithen / Expert

Round 7 is still early in the season, but a few results happened this week that no doubt demoralised fans of a few clubs. Here come your talking points from the weekend.

Good, good times for some

A good week for Cronulla, who slaughtered the Cowboys at home to continue their early season points accumulation. The Sharks sit top of the pops and with Canberra and St George Illawarra their next fortnight, they should be confident they can bank a couple more wins.

Brisbane took advantage of the armchair ride Canberra gave them through errors, so much so they could coast through the second half and give their main players a long spell. The top up of point differential also boosted Kevin Walters’ men onto the fringes of the top four.

Canterbury took out the listless Newcastle, and when their attack is clicking they’re a pretty fun side to watch. It’s like watching a kid learning to ride a bike without the training wheels – some spectacular things happen, every now and then the journey ends up in a bush on the side of the road, but there’s always something being learned.

Daniel Saifiti is tackled. (Photo by Mark Kolbe/Getty Images)

Special mention to St George Illawarra too. After they got washed out by Newcastle in the hosing rain of Round 5, the Dragons have won two on the trot against quality opponents. They’re on the fringes of the top eight and with everyone around them a week-to-week proposition, maybe they can sneak a finals spot when all’s said and done.

Bad, bad times for others

With large wins come large losses. Canberra’s rookie fullback Chevy Stewart had a first-half nightmare against the Broncos on route to a 34-10 Raiders loss. Worse than the score, though, was halfback Jamal Fogarty rupturing a bicep and looking like he’s out for three months. Fogarty was a big driver behind Canberra’s decent early form and the young squad gets even younger in their key positions.

Another shocker from New Zealand losing to the Dragons. The Warriors are supposed to be better than this, aren’t they? There’s enough time to right the wrongs, but teams with top-four aspirations should be winning these games, ugly or not (see: Penrith 22, Wests Tigers 6).

Parramatta fall further and further away from the top eight as their points differential got another caning by The Dolphins in Darwin. They led 10-4 at half-time, even stand-in halfback Dylan Brown thought they’d be ok in his half-time interview. Then the world collapsed. Parra didn’t score again until the 79th minute and in between the Dolphins scored eight (8) tries in 25 minutes.

Coach Brad Arthur was seething, players had their heads down and it’s really hard right now to see a way up to the surface for the Eels. These problems go far beyond missing Mitch Moses.

The biggest sook in the NRL coaching fraternity

When it comes to coaches ranting and complaining after a game your mind turns to the reputations of Ricky Stuart, or maybe Des Hasler. Jason Demetriou and Todd Payten can sook it up. Even Benji Marshall had a crack at the referees this week.

But there’s one coach who now stands above all as the game’s biggest whinger, and it’s Roosters honcho Trent Robinson. It’s a shame, too, because I really like Robinson. He’s sadly degenerated into a post-game referee bashing machine.

His effort after a close loss to Melbourne was embarrassing. Robinson teed off yet again on the bunker and referee Ashley Klein, but he must have forgotten a couple of calls that went his way, particularly a missed dropped ball in the lead up to the try which tied the game.

It’s one thing to whack refs and journos to cover for your team (like Ricky Stuart does) or go super, extra hard to plant seeds for future treatment (like Des Hasler does) but Robinson is disproportionately into the refs and bunker every week now. He’s better than this.

Wayne

I love Wayne Bennett. Love him. When the Dolphins finished with nine wins last year it was an amazing achievement in their first year. They’re off to another good start in 2024 but much like last year, injuries are starting to take the shine off a top-heavy squad.

Among all of this Bennett has clearly built a team that can compete. Love him or hate him, you can’t deny his man management of both the players under him or the coaching crew around him.

It’s also amusing his name is being shopped as a replacement for South Sydney or other clubs with coaching questions. He’s probably the one dropping his name to journos, too.

Dolphins coach Wayne Bennett with fullback Hamiso Tabuai-Fidow. (Photo by Chris Hyde/Getty Images)

Bennett’s time with the Dolphins won’t be good for his wins and losses record, but it has been massive for his reputation.

Your annual ANZAC Round reminder

Round 8 is the NRL’s ‘ANZAC Round’, which the league says is the time for the “Rugby League community will come together to pay tribute to the servicemen and women who have served, and continue to serve, our countries”. This is a good thing, because we need to be aware and reflect on what the horrors of war mean to Australia.

But I still can’t abide the ‘special’ jerseys we’re about to see. If a club is selling an ANZAC jersey, they should donate all of the profit to a related charity or veterans support service and I’m yet to see any club do that.

And don’t forget your yearly reminder that NRL players are not soldiers – they don’t ‘go to war’, they’re never ‘in the trenches’ and they certainly do not ‘pay the ultimate price’.

Good games this week

Round 8’s games are a quandary, readers. There’s some that may well turn out to be fantastic, but on the other hand might well be horrific bludgers. Be warned – it may look straightforward, but this will be one of the worst tipping weeks for the year.

We start on a three-game slate on Thursday for ANZAC Day, with the Warriors and Titans in New Zealand, St George Illawarra and the Rosters in Sydney then Melbourne welcome Souths to their worst performed NRL venue.

Friday night sees Manly hosting Parramatta at Brookvale. Historically this would mean plenty and be great but the state of the Eels may well put paid to our hopes of a contest.

Two games on Saturday with Wests Tigers and Brisbane at Campbelltown, then the Cowboys are in somewhat of a ‘last chance for respect’ saloon against Penrith in Townsville.

Sunday wraps the round with Wayne’s Dolphins and Newcastle at Suncorp Stadium, then the Raiders host Cronulla, who will be keen to bank another two points for a top-four spot later on.

Canterbury have the bye and if results go their way, the two points they’ll get for a week off will put them into the top eight!

Round 7’s random thoughts

– The Raiders got whupped good and proper in Brisbane but they kept alive their 273-game streak of scoring points in a game – they haven’t been held scoreless since Round 3, 2013 (the record is 488 games, held by North Sydney).
– Want another good streak? The Dragons have conceded at least one try in every game they’ve played since Round 23, 2015 – that’s 198 in a row. If they can make it to 211 games, the record is theirs!
– Parramatta have now lost their last three ‘home’ games in Darwin. It’s muggy, it’s hot, it’s slippery as hell and it’s not easy to handle the ball or make a tackle stick at the first go. I hope they’re getting a heap of cash for it!
– Benji Marshall was right, by the way – Penrith’s Brad Schneider should have been sin binned for ankle-tapping Justin Olam.
– Newcastle clown Jack Hetherington might need to pull his head in a bit more after trying to go after Canterbury hooker Reed Mahoney in the tunnel after they got sin-binned. Adam Blair and Glenn Stewart, they ain’t.
– After all the fuss last week, it was nice to see there weren’t any notable disruptor penalties paid in Round 7…

What’s caught your eye this weekend, Roarers?

The Crowd Says:

2024-04-22T20:29:49+00:00

Robbo

Roar Rookie


That's a big shadow

2024-04-22T14:15:25+00:00

Ben Pobjie

Expert


Yep, love the kid’s attitude.

2024-04-22T14:15:00+00:00

Ben Pobjie

Expert


Good call LP. Even when complaints are fully justified it will rarely be good for a team to dwell on them.

2024-04-22T14:13:27+00:00

Ben Pobjie

Expert


I think Anzac jerseys should be the regular club jersey with a small commemorative patch sewn on. Nothing more.

2024-04-22T14:12:57+00:00

Ben Pobjie

Expert


It probably goes without saying that a losing coach will whinge more than a winning coach, but I reckon what really turbo charges a whinging habit is a coach who is used to continual success suddenly finding his team struggling. It’s an alien feeling and he’ll lash out.

2024-04-22T12:51:53+00:00

KenW

Roar Rookie


In my opinion he hasn't been as bad as all that. He's got a habit of running sideways a bit too much but otherwise I think he's been solid without being outstanding. Hunt is almost always the guy that drives the big play but Flanagan is effectively playing as halfback most of the time, which is giving Hunt time and space to play what he sees. If we look at the last 5 years of Dragons 5/8ths (since Widdop left), I'd take Flanagan's honest efforts in a heartbeat over the occasionally brilliant but usually missing Amone or Norman.

2024-04-22T11:56:19+00:00

Cam

Roar Rookie


Robbo sadly degenerated into a post-game referee bashing machine. Love to see the refs do a post-match presser where they get to comment on Robbo's coaching. Ashley Klein "Robbo really needs to grab a pad and run a tackling drill on Monday morning, 45 missed tackles just aint going to cut the mustard". Adam Gee "Surely Robbo can see that Manu is the better fullback, seriously do we need to draw a picture for the bloke".

2024-04-22T09:45:36+00:00

The Sporacle

Roar Rookie


Alfs tackling technique would be the most obvious one that comes to mind

2024-04-22T09:17:18+00:00

NQR

Roar Rookie


Albo I do remember you didn’t have high expectations for young Panthers back at the start of 2020. Many doubted the hype by some about Nathan’s ability also. No team has transitioned to 6 again better than the skill and talent of Penrith it would appear. Ivan was quick to adjust and well ahead of many rival coaches with adapting to new interpretations. That’s smart coaching and well done by him and the coaching staff involved. What say, knowledge and influence did Gould have during this time? I’ll admit the Panthers have a great nursery and currently the crop of talent is very strong. I’ll admit jealousy and frustration at my mob not being good enough at identifying, nurturing and their own talent either. Cowboys signed a couple of forwards Taumalolo, McGuire, Molo and McClean that weren’t suited to 6again. Even keeping Kikau and Taumo instead of loading up on Taumalolo would have been great if we were intuitive enough to see 6 again coming? Perhaps Ponga would have been a priority also. I’m feeling a bit bitter and twisted that Gould pushed unlimited interchange and also got together with a few rival coaches when the Tigers and Cowboys were running hot and suggested the game was to quick. It was becoming touch football and the big men were losing their place in the game. So the league decided slowing the ruck was the way to go back in mid 2006. Now I wish 6again existed in 2007 with the Cowboys squad.

2024-04-22T08:43:05+00:00

Danno1

Roar Rookie


K Flanagan is holding Dragons back. His penchant for not knowing what to do next, then telegraphing what he will do next when he works it out, then not doing that to the standard of a first grade 5/8 is an issue. In every game I've watched of the Dragons this year if something in attack stuffs up, looks clunky or has a hospital pass he's usually there. Having said that his courage is first rate and he's a handy defender.

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2024-04-22T07:57:38+00:00

AJ Mithen

Expert


Really good gear Baz

2024-04-22T07:48:29+00:00

London Panther

Roar Rookie


Maybe he is winning because he has his team focused on the game at hand, rather than giving them excuses like focusing on the ref’s calls.

2024-04-22T05:22:34+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


Cheers mate…

2024-04-22T05:20:59+00:00

Sportstragic

Roar Rookie


Yes this is a great article and the roar could highlight this article again this week as very relevant

2024-04-22T05:03:27+00:00

Geoff from Bruce Stadium

Roar Rookie


Robbo has left Ricky in his wake in the whinging stakes. Probably due to Robbo being on the receiving end of a few close losses and Ricky managing to chalk up a couple of wins. Would have been interesting to see Ricky's reaction if they had lost that close one to the Titans. I can understand Robbo's frustration with Klein as he came up with his usual list of clangers and a complete lack empathy with letting the game flow. But the poor decisions were happening to both teams. 17 penalties is ridiculous. I'll be amazed if he isn't relegated to the bunker this weekend. Ricky has handled himself pretty well in his pressers of late. Giving his team a serve for the soft loss against the Sharks after giving up an 18-0 lead, defending Kasey Badger after the tactics used by Dessie to slow down the ruck in the game against the Titans, and defending some of the younger players in the team (e.g. Chevy Stewart) after being blitzed by the Broncos in that first half on Saturday night rather than hanging them out to dry. But his nerve and temper is going to be severely tested in the coming months given injuries to key experienced members in the spine.

2024-04-22T04:16:15+00:00

Geoff from Bruce Stadium

Roar Rookie


I think we were all shocked at how the Dolphins dismantled the Eels Matt - given their list of outs and the Eels coming off a win I was expecting the Dolphin to struggle. Amazing performance by them. 8 tries in 25 minutes is ridiculous. Imagine the score if Isaako had kicked straight. The Eels well and truly drooped their bundle though. Along with the Dogs and Dragons the Dolphins are the surprise packets this season. I guess the Raiders have been a surprise as well but you wonder what will happen in the next few months given Fogarty is out long term and they will miss Rapana for another month or so.

2024-04-22T03:45:05+00:00

Slammin_Sam

Roar Rookie


Aww come on....its only cause Ricky is winning....youve forgotten how good he is at whinging!

2024-04-22T02:07:18+00:00

Albo

Roar Rookie


I never had a great opinion of him as a coach till now. As he just seems to have great management skills to have that team ticking over so consistently, cohesively and obviously successfully for 4 years now, with no sign of squad unrest, and despite the loss of so many good players along the way.

2024-04-22T01:56:50+00:00

NQR

Roar Rookie


I admit to jealous with the Panthers success but I also have been frustrated by the methods they have employed along the way. When was Alf or Thurston afforded protection from the officials? They worked 6again with penalties brilliantly for 2 years before the league realised they were receiving lopsided penalties coming out of trouble. Only Souths picked up on the tactic in the first season of 6again.

2024-04-22T01:56:43+00:00

Red Rob

Roar Rookie


Yep, Cleary Snr is one of the things that makes the Panthers’ dominance palatable for the rest of us.

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