The Roar’s AFL expert tips and predictions: Preliminary finals

By Josh / Expert

History suggests that those sides which have had a week off to rest before a preliminary final should be strong favourites for the matches themselves, and at a quick glance 2018 looks no different.

Richmond have been the best team of the year, minor premiers by a comfortable margin, and get to play a Collingwood side coming into this match off a six-day break.

West Coast meanwhile have been a quality side throughout the year and especially strong at home, where they’ll get to face Melbourne with an extra week’s break.

However if you go looking for them it’s not too hard to find reasons to believe that either match could easily be an upset.

Collingwood’s last game against the Tigers was one where they thrashed them in the midfield but ultimately fell short, with mid-game injuries having a serious impact.

They are bringing just about their fittest side of 2018 into this match and if they have some better luck, there’s an arguement to be made that their midfield might could simply overwhelm Richmond.

As for Melbourne, they’ve got the momentum after two finals wins in two weeks and can make the roadtrip with confidence knowing they beat West Coast here only a few weeks ago.

In fact I’d say both preliminary finals feel a bit like a clear case of a challenger who possesses more raw talent going up against an opponent with a more proven ability to make good on their talent.

If anything the finals series so far would suggest that September has favoured more those teams with potential than experience… still, I find it hard not to tip the favourites.

I’ll back in Richmond and West Coast for the 2018 grand final, but I feel almost certain to be wrong about at least one of them – but which?

(Photo by Quinn Rooney/Getty Images)

Adrian Polykandrites
Richmond, West Coast

Melbourne have done all that’s been asked of them so far this finals series, even beating the Hawks while playing below their best.

The Eagles, though, in large part due to their gun key forwards, present a different challenge.

Melbourne should be able to get first hands on the footy; West Coast should be more potent going forward. I’m tipping the Eagles in a close one.

Cameron Rose
Richmond, Melbourne

In Richmond and Collingwood the two teams that play most like each other, and who share the largest supporter bases in Victoria, square off in the biggest preliminary final of our times in an overflowing MCG.

The Pies have mimicked Richmond’s pressure around the ball and go-forward strategy, opting for an inside 50 set up that relies more heavily on variety than a traditional setup.

The Tigers have forced Collingwood to play more of a handball heavy game when the sides have met twice earlier in the year, and have eventually worn down their opposition over four quarters.

The Pies were missing key personnel last time out, not least of which was Jordan De Goey, and lost the important Jeremy Howe early in the game.

Richmond has the record MCG winning streak still going due to how well they defend the ground, and have had a less torrid time through the finals than the Pies.

The last fact may catch up with Collingwood late in the game, but this one will be closer than the odds suggest. Richmond by 8 points.

As for West Coast and Melbourne – hands up who predicted this preliminary final at the start of the year?

These two sides have played some of the most scintillating football of the season on their way to this point of the season, heavy on penetrative kicking and marking the ball well in the front half of the ground.

Melbourne beat the Eagles in Perth a little over a month ago, and haven’t lost since. They were able to deconstruct the home side’s back six, getting the ball in the hands of their forwards repeatedly for shots at goal.

West Coast will welcome Josh Kennedy and Jack Darling back, but that won’t help with contested ball and clearances, which is sure to be in the Dees favour, and is what they base their entire game on. Melbourne by 13 points.

(Photo by Michael Willson/AFL Media/Getty Images)

TomC
Richmond, West Coast

It’s been a remarkable season for the Magpies and they often seem to overcome tough circumstances. With the game in the balance they produced an excellent burst of footy to blow away the Giants last week and I’m sure they’ll be full of confidence.

But Richmond for their part always seem to win the games they should win – provided they’re in Melbourne, that is – and with a clean bill of health and two weeks rest will surely play better for longer and get the win.

Melbourne and West Coast is almost a coinflip for me. The Demons are playing great footy but haven’t been effective all the time even as they won their first two finals. The Eagles probably haven’t looked as good but still managed to beat Collingwood.

There’s a chance Melbourne blow it open and hold the Eagles off. But if it’s close I’d probably back West Coast at home with the extra rest, and a bit more finals experience. And it’s been a low scoring finals series so far.

When in doubt I tend to go the home team, so I’ll do the same here.

Preliminary finals Josh E Adrian P Cam R TomC The Crowd
RIC vs COL RIC RIC RIC RIC RIC
WCE vs MEL WCE WCE MEL WCE WCE
Last week 2 2 2 2 1
Total 138 139 141 145 146

The Crowd Says:

2018-09-23T12:30:57+00:00

Doctor Rotcod

Roar Rookie


Was that a loss by 66 points .More than 6x6 or D.R.dared

2018-09-23T01:17:35+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


Still here Realist.

2018-09-23T01:17:13+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


Not finished yet!

2018-09-22T01:24:49+00:00

MAGICJOHNSON

Roar Rookie


Colingwood did win by 39. Now for Melbourne to win by 1-9 mostly 8

2018-09-22T01:23:10+00:00

BBQ Bob

Guest


Hmm, that went well...?

2018-09-21T16:33:07+00:00

anon

Roar Pro


I was wrong. Well done to Collingwood. Win for the ages. Will be forgotten if they don't win next week though.

2018-09-21T14:21:10+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


Hey I was close, Treloar kicked the winning goal but we won by 38 points more than what I said.

2018-09-21T13:56:53+00:00

Bangkokpussey

Roar Rookie


Am I the only one expecting a Collingwood v Melbourne Grand final?

2018-09-21T05:51:19+00:00

Munro Mike

Roar Rookie


The romantic in me would love to see Melbourne win, and if that's the case - to match up against Collingwood for a bit of a 'back to the 50s/60s'. And that would set up next years Queens Birthday clash as a fabulous 'Grand Final replay'. But - alas - I see that as the least likely outcome for this weekend. Dang shame too that Williamstown missed out by a bees diaphragm last week for the VFL GF.

2018-09-21T05:21:46+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


yeah Chomps is a shocker Nigel.

2018-09-21T05:09:23+00:00

Paul D

Roar Guru


The last midfielder for West Coast who performed in a final was Andrew Embley Even Meatloaf performed better at a grand final than west coast did in 2015

2018-09-21T04:38:43+00:00

Justin

Guest


"Terrible" midfield, without Kennedy and Darling, Naitanui and Gaff for a number of games across the season they still finished 2nd.....honestly

2018-09-21T04:35:11+00:00

Justin Anderson

Guest


For the sake of a competitive GF, hoping Richmond have a couple of key injuries in their most likely win tonight. They have been exceptionally lucky/well managed re their injuries and I think only some key injuries will prevent a Richmond GF win by 10 goals.

2018-09-21T03:52:56+00:00

Nigel Dias

Guest


That was 3 years ago mate, the side has matured a lot since then

2018-09-21T03:51:19+00:00

Nigel Dias

Guest


You mean the same midfield that beat GWS and Collingwood

2018-09-21T03:23:30+00:00

Fat Toad

Roar Rookie


I agree, I think that the combination of Howe and Goldsack will be better this week than last if only for them getting another game under their belts. While Moore and Reid would have potentially been useful inclusions, having five players without much game time is risky and the opportunity to bring in three against WCE in a double chance game was a wise strategy, so I also expect Treloar to improve again this week.

2018-09-21T03:02:33+00:00

IAP

Guest


I know about lots of stuff. Winding up West Coast supporters is just one of my favourites...there's no outrage there either, just common sense and honesty.

2018-09-21T03:00:27+00:00

Paul D

Roar Guru


Oh please, McDonald's employees would be sacked in a heartbeat if they made the number of clangers during a shift most of these clowns do during a game. Glad you can't enjoy footy anymore.

2018-09-21T03:00:23+00:00

IAP

Guest


Unfortunately for you, home ground advantage probably trumps the other two.

2018-09-21T02:31:44+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


Go your hardest Realist (I see you have served your penance in here for being naughty)....whatever happens tonight I couldnt be more porud of Bucks, his coaches and the Pies players. From 13th to a prelim and a chance at a grand final is massive and it's been a fun ride. 2019, we will only be better.

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