AFL mid-season rookie draft 2019: Your club's new players

The Subiaco football club received nothing for the loss of Deluca and Mayo - nothing. So a WAFL club nurtures, trains and prepares players for a football career only to be pillaged by the AFL mid season with zero reward. Its a national sporting disgrace

Or Josh. Gets you on most lists. On the 4 WAFL players, Deluca, who’s played 80 games with Subiaco must really have taken Silvagni’s eye. Two premierships with Peel and two with Subiaco, came close in the Outridge Medal last year,best WAFL player in the WA/SA game earlier in May. Probably the best pick in the MSD. O’Reilly,who is 194cm and 79 kg-his dad played at 195 cm and 100kg,so he’s got a bit of filling out to do, has a booming kick. Pickett, who doesn’t need Hardwick’s mentoring as much as Martin does is a great pick. Mayo,kicked 50 goals in the Colts last year,but another lightweight,copes with the boys alright but will need two years to get a solid frame No compensation to the teams sucks

I don't think it is any real coincidence that the AFL wanted the blues out of Princes Park (which was achieved in 2005) and they got hit with penalties that brought them to their knees both financially and on field shortly before when everyone previously had copped a slap on the wrist.

I may be wrong about the North fine, but I do remember that there were a number of clubs fined about that time, possibly Collingwood and also Essendon (?). The issue was caused by bringing players in for others with long term injures and having to pay both groups. So it was not really about recruitment or player retention. I think that the $30,000 amount was the normal amount for going over due to injuries, and it was frequently the club(s) that brought it to the attention of the AFL rather than have the AFL find it in the end of season audits. In the end I think that the AFL solved the problem of the minor breaches by creating a better way for clubs to deal with in season injuries and how they effected the salary cap.

Macca, a strong response, taking your word for it all. Regardless of the absolute accuracy of your points, you are on the money (ptp) with the overall excesses. In previous comments about the real end of the old VFL (say 1975) I spoke of money and temerity. You have explained by way of specicif example of what I meant.

The famous “Baby Bombers” of 1993 were at the centre of the league’s first major salary cap scandal when a joint AFL and Australian Tax Office investigation found that the club had committed a series of systematic cap breaches between 1991 and 1996. Over that period Essendon cheated the cap by $514,500 including $110,000 in 1993, the year they won the flag. In 1996, the AFL quietly fined North Melbourne a modest $30,000 for breaching the salary cap, in a season which they won the premiership. When asked to explain the team’s greatness in an extraordinary radio interview on 3AW last year, Don Scott, an instrumental figure in saving Hawthorn from a proposed merger with Melbourne, confessed that the club used to “pay well over the salary cap” to “star players” during that era of success. (Between 1983 to 1991) Scott revealed that this was why these players “stayed at Hawthorn” and that it was an illegal bank account in Tasmania that hid football’s biggest secret. It was rife in throughout the whole league - the blues were just the ones who got caught at the wrong time, when the league started taking it seriously and got whacked more than the bombers with the systematic supplements

You also have to remember the blues are the lowest inside 50 team in the comp. The blues forward line hasn't played together much (or much at all if you look at games played between Curnow, McKay, Cuningham, Gibbons and Silvagni they have 216 games experience), it is going to take time to get the set up right.

Players that caught in salary cap breaches are also victims, they are no able to know the ins and outs of the whole cap and what they should be paid. Similarly, they can not really know what is okay as an external payment and what is not because they can not know the club's involvement. It is entirely correct that any player answer honestly and correctly. They should never be placed in a position where they are expected to either lie of misdirect any investigation. But, further to that, the AFL was the first of the codes to require that players make their tax returns available. Asking a player to mislead the ATO is a completely different kettle of fish. Armed with the player's tax return, what sort of a position do you expect a player to be able to take when questioned by trained investigators and forensic accountants? The question should be when did institutionalised cheating become okay? The people who should be remembered and who were really to blame are the Carlton administration at the time, primarily John Elliott and then the people who didn't stand up and say this is a bad idea and I will not be involved!

I agree about the passing, but it may come down to there being no one left that they want over someone already on their list who they didn't want to push off.

Good to see Cam Sutcliffe get another crack and Josh Deluca If delisted Freo players is anything to go by - De Boer and Menegola for example then these two should have a few years int them at their new clubs Not sure on why clubs would pass, unless its a salary cap thing. You get to bring in a player to train full time at the club and get first dibs on them if they are any good.

His endurance is awesome! But so was Buddy’s, so was Nick Riewoldt and Jonathan Brown. They still got a lot of ball inside 50 My point is the way Carlton seem to play sees him taking marks higher up the ground more and more. Think they need a better balance.

Dingo – Charlies endurance is one of his best assets, of course he will want to push further up the ground (especially when they have McKay, McGovern and Silvagni as marking options) but on the weekend he still had 6 score involvements, 4 inside 50’s and 2 goals 1.

Kick 2 goals on Darcy Moore against the Pies in a highly entertaining battle.

How many of 18 touches were behind the Centre square? For me he’s getting a lot of touches well up and not in dangerous spots. Teams seem quite happy to let go Charlie go and get the Footy further up the ground stops him having a bigger impact in the forward 50! See far too many times Carlton doesn’t have forward targets to kick to. No wonder they can’t kick score that likely help them win

Yeah 'competitive' against the bottom teams.

Can't imagine Carlton resisting truth. Would they? Perhaps a reason why they have struggled to face certain truths ever since.

He was one of the 4 players involved in the salary cap breaches. He retired before his contract expired and Carlton were obligated to pay him out which created a financial headache for the club. The way they did it contravened the salary cap rules and led to the AFL investigation of Carlton. Apparently he was very eager to please during the enquiry which helped the AFL. Not a popular name at Carlton.

Hope he turns into a 100 game player and not just a temporary filler who gets delisted within two years.

Yeah Charlie may not be starring but he’s still making a decent contribution each week.

Yeah poor old Charlie, only had the 18 touches, 6 marks (2 contested), 6 score involvements and 2 goals on the weekend - terrible numbers for a chf.