Collingwood Magpies versus GWS Giants: AFL preliminary final forecast

By Adrian Polykandrites / Expert

Injures and idiocy have done their best to spoil what shaped as the more interesting of the two preliminary finals.

Just when the Giants’ injury luck seemed to have turned, Lachie Whitfield had his appendix removed and Toby Greene got himself suspended for being an idiot – whether you think he deserved to be rubbed out or not, it’s baffling that he even gave the league an excuse after what he’d just been through.

It’s not all beer and skittles on the other side of the field, with Jordan de Goey out for at least tonight with a hamstring injury and Levi Greenwood done for this season and possibly even the next after rupturing his ACL in the Pies’ qualifying final win.

Ben Reid and James Aish come in for the Pies, while Ian “Bobby” Hill and Lachie Keeffe (huh?) are in for the Giants.

That leaves GWS without three of their five best players – Whitfield, Greene and Handsome Steve Coniglio – but not without a chance.

Lost in Geelong’s shadow of mediocrity throughout the second half of the season was the fact the Magpies were also sputtering along.

They’re currently riding a five-game win streak, which includes beltings of Adelaide and Gold Coast, scrappy victories over the Bombers and Demons and their qualifying final win over the Cats.

Five wins in a row is five wins in a row, and bad sides don’t win qualifying finals, but you can still colour me unconvinced.

Even with three ball-winning stars out of the line-up, GWS should still be able to compete around the contest – on the ground at least.

Josh Kelly is one of the AFL’s best players, and Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper are very good. Tagger extraordinaire Matt de Boer will likely get the job on Scott Pendlebury or Steele Sidebottom, and Zac Williams could find himself further up the ground to pick up some of the slack – he’s shown himself to be more than capable.

Pendlebury, Sidebottom, Taylor Adams – whose September reputation seems to grow with every final – Adam Treloar and Tom Phillips might get on top in the centre of the ground, but it’s not an unfair fight … until you get to the big men.

Shane Mumford had his lunch eaten by Stefan Martin a week ago, and even on his best day 2019 Martin is Brodie Grundy Lite.

Collingwood’s dual All-Australian big man will feast on Mumford, and just how much damage he can do with the ball once he wins it – and he’s going to win plenty of it – will shape this game in a big way.

Adam Tomlinson could be called upon to do some heavy lifting against Grundy, and while he’ll get monstered in the hit-outs, he should do a much better job than Mumford at everything after that.

These teams were ranked second (GWS) and third (Collingwood) for contested possession differential during the season, though the Giants were a much better clearance team, ranking second compared to Collingwood’s 11th ranking, but I don’t expect that to mean much this afternoon.

(Photo by Michael Willson/AFL Photos/Getty Images)

Collingwood’s forward line is rock solid, but without De Goey, it’s not intimidating. Jaidyn Stephenson, Jamie Elliott, Will Hoskin-Elliott, Josh Thomas and Brody Mihocek are all fine footballers. None of them are De Goey.

Reid rarely plays poorly when he’s healthy and should be able to keep either Phil Davis or Nick Haynes busy.

Despite key players missing throughout the year, the Pies converted 23.9 per cent of their inside-50s into goals during the home-and-away season – the fourth-best rate in the league.

The Giants, at 25 per cent, were one spot better, and even sans Greene have a formidable attack.

Jeremy Cameron has taken his already outstanding game to another level this year, and he is brilliantly supported by Harry Himmelberg and Jeremy Finlayson. Brent Daniels is a very handy small forward.

Darcy Moore is a perfect match-up for Cameron, though Nathan Buckley might decide it’s better to use the rangy defender on a lesser player and let him roam.

The Pies would love to have Tom Langdon out there for a game like this.

It’s a shame there are so many good and better than good players – remember Dayne Beams? – watching from the stands rather than playing in this game, but that’s often the way things go at this time of the year.

The Magpies deserve to be favourites, but I’m expecting a close one.

Collingwood by a goal.

That’s my preliminary final forecast. What’s yours?

The Crowd Says:

2019-09-21T08:38:39+00:00

lol

Guest


*That’s why we’ll lose. Just lost the unloseable game, biggest choke I've ever seen in the sport tbh.

2019-09-21T08:00:39+00:00

anon

Roar Pro


GWS have outplayed Collingwood so far but haven't converted. Two pretty ordinary teams fighting for their honour of getting smashed by the Tigers next week.

2019-09-21T06:55:56+00:00

Larrikin

Roar Rookie


Centre umpire surely must be a closet c/wood supporter

2019-09-21T06:09:13+00:00

6x6 perkele

Roar Rookie


Strange how they get upset that supporters of other sides don't like them, I support wce the rest are the enemy.

2019-09-21T05:49:51+00:00

GGG

Roar Rookie


100% agree no excuses. That's why we'll win.

2019-09-21T05:38:54+00:00

peter chrisp

Guest


Peter agree i am not losing too much sleep about what he said & he's entitled to his comments.

2019-09-21T05:19:09+00:00

The Brazilian

Roar Rookie


Exactly right, Jason! Hope the Giants stick it up 'em today. Listen to the Pies supporters whinge and moan like stuck pigs then. Music to the ears.

2019-09-21T05:07:59+00:00

Jason

Roar Rookie


Coniglio Ward Whitfield Deledio Greene Significantly more talented / crucial players out for GWS .

2019-09-21T04:51:32+00:00

anon

Roar Pro


Collingwood finished higher on the ladder, have had a week's rest, playing on their home ground, Giants have massive outs, Giants go to water on the 'G. The Pies have NO alibis if they fail tonight. They've been handed a Grand Final appearance on a platter.

2019-09-21T04:31:50+00:00

Angela

Roar Rookie


Agree @ b. AVERY Playing with 80,000 people shrieking hate-stuff at you - for some reason the Giants engender a particularly nasty vitriolic response in Soviet Victoria - is bound to have an effect on your game as well as unconsciously (or otherwise) play into the hearts and minds of the umpires as happened at the GF in 2016. At least the Swans had a few supporters in the Soviet. I'd love to see the Giants win today and next week but as hopeful as p...ing in the wind I suspect. Looks like A VFL G.F. is on the cards. Yawn.

2019-09-21T04:12:39+00:00

Liam Salter

Roar Guru


You going to this afternoon's game, Pete?

2019-09-21T04:06:31+00:00

Greg Cave

Guest


Beams Cox De Goey Greenwood Langdon Makes it tough but still possible

2019-09-21T04:01:01+00:00

Hawk12

Guest


Wow there is some nervous pie supporters on here. If u don’t have confidence today against a GWS side missing three top line stars. God help ur mindset against the tigers next week if u do make it through after today

2019-09-21T03:56:13+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


Thanks Rich, hopefully see you next week

2019-09-21T03:45:06+00:00

Jason

Roar Rookie


Won't the AFL be salivating at the prospect of a Pies v Tiges grand final. With the amount of quality out of GWS I just can't see them getting the job done. Hoping for a great game.

2019-09-21T03:31:50+00:00

Omnitrader

Roar Rookie


2016?

2019-09-21T02:28:30+00:00

RT

Roar Rookie


Sometimes you only play as well as you need to. That final between GWS and Collingwood last year was terrible by both teams, but then Collingwood played a blinder in the Prelim and almost won a Premiership the next week.

2019-09-21T02:22:40+00:00

RT

Roar Rookie


Can't risk wish you luck Peter, but enjoy it. The 2017 Prelim against Giants was an incredible experience for Tigers supporters. Collingwood probably won't have the same level of neutrals supporting them as the Tigers did in 2017 (back when people still felt goodwill towards us, but apparently we supporters have become obnoxious or something) but it will still be 90% Magpies.

2019-09-21T02:17:33+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


Just how we like it

2019-09-21T02:06:23+00:00

b.AVERY

Guest


Who can forget the fifteen penalties awarded against the Swans in the third quarter is 2015. against the dogs? Non Melbourne teams have greater aponents OFF the M.C.G. than on it.

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