Coach's Corner issue 1: Can the Reds midfield step up for Australia?

By Nicholas Bishop / Expert

Thanks to all who participated in the forum for my first article this week, either by asking questions or making comment. All offered value. The most intriguing theme, and the most relevant to events at the weekend, was how the success of the Queensland Reds attack under Jim McKay may influence Wallaby selection in midfield and the back three in 2021.

The question fell into three parts:

  1. Is Hamish Stewart capable of being a top Test centre? (Rugby Wizard)
  2. Will Tim Horan be correct, and we see Jordan Petaia move to the back? (Toanui)
  3. Len Ikitau had a strong game for the Brumbies against the Force. Do you see him as a genuine threat to Petaia’s Wallaby number 13 jersey? (Fat Gary)

All of these are great questions that deserve an in-depth answer. Let’s take a look at Hamish Stewart first. He tends to fly under the radar because he doesn’t have the more obvious and spectacular backline skill-set of Jordan Petaia or Filipo Daugunu.

He played flanker at school and idolised George Smith, not the kind of background you’d expect from a top-drawer number ten. So how does he fit into the Reds’ backline?

Armchair Halfback commented of his game against the Waratahs, “That was one of Stewart’s best performances for the Reds. Can you be a schoolboy star and a late bloomer at the same time?”.

Numpty asked, “What role does Hamish Stewart play in the Reds backline?”

The answer is Stewart’s role is highly unusual, not to say unique, in Jim McKay’s offence. He has previously started games at number ten and fullback for the Reds, so you’d expect a second playmaker who could take the pressure off James O’Connor, right?

Wrong. In fact, Stewart didn’t appear once at first receiver in the entire game, but he had nine meaningful cleanouts as either the first or second man at the tackle. He recovered one fumble, forced another and captained the Queensland backline defence. He led two counter-rucks which resulted in a turnover. Great work (for a flanker) if you can get it.

Player Appearances at first receiver vs Waratahs
Hamish Stewart 0
Hunter Paisami 5 (one try created)

Dean commented that “Hamish Stewart’s strength in defence, cleanout and short bursts of speed are a delight to watch”, and he is not far from identifying the strengths of the Reds midfielder’s game.

Despite all of his experience at flyhalf and fullback, Stewart plays 12 as an enhanced number seven, and the playmaking is left to the man outside him, Hunter Paisami – which is exactly the arrangement the Wallaby coaches have said they want moving forward:

At this attacking scrum, the first two backs the Reds want on the ball are O’Connor and Paisami, with Daugunu and Stewart fading to the outside of the play:

Likewise, when there was a cross-kick to be made and O’Connor was not available to execute it, the responsibility fell to the Reds outside centre:

Stewart’s role is cleaning house at the previous ruck before the creative influence arrives to use the ball on the next phase:

Daugunu runs, Stewart cleans out Harry Johnson-Holmes one-on-one at the tackle, and Paisami makes the half-break from first receiver.

It was Paisami who created the Reds’ third score of the game on the short side:

Stewart is a valuable bits and pieces role-player at inside centre, organising the defence, playing effectively with McReight and Wilson at the front end of an attacking lineout sequence, doing a lot of the dirty work on both sides of the breakdown.

When Red Rob asked the question, “What is the Reds’ best centre pairing: 12. Stewart 13. Paisami; or 12. Paisami 13. Petaia?”, he also answered it in the next breath: “I was in the latter camp until Paisami showed he can do ’12 work’ – some nice distribution and kicking – from the 13 position anyway, and Stewart is a handy glue between the back row and the backline.”

The problem for Stewart is that this kind of work is unlikely to catapult him to the forefront of Dave Rennie and Scott Wisermantel’s thoughts, especially if it means blowing the kind of golden opportunities which do not swing around too often in a Test match:

The issue here is that after stepping inside the first defender to make the break, Stewart runs further away from the three free support players on his outside. Both taking an immediate step back towards that support or putting through a simple diagonal kick to the corner would be better options than seeking contact.

This where the doubts would begin for Rennie and Wisemantel, and handy glue-guy may not be enough for the long-term fix.

Hamish Stewart. (Photo by Bradley Kanaris/Getty Images)

The second question, which is directly connected to the first, is what position suits Jordan Petaia best – outside centre, wing or fullback. Wallabies legend Tim Horan recently came out in support of the idea of moving Petaia to fullback.

Rugby Wizard summarised it as follows: “To’omua/Stewart and Godwin-like players at centre will work well for Wallabies if they can develop a back three capable of outclassing top opposition, for this to happen it might require Suliasi Vunivalu to live up to the hype and Petaia settling in the 15 position.”

The simple maths for the Reds is that four into three won’t go. If they keep Stewart and Paisami in the centres, one of Petaia, Jock Campbell, Filipo Daugunu or Suliasi Vunivalu has to miss out. If Paisami and Petaia play in the centres together, Queensland lose the inherent balance that Hamish Stewart provides.

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A body of evidence is slowly beginning to accumulate which suggests that Jordan Petaia is at his best playing in space, with the field well in front of him. The original article showed how effective he can be as a blindside winger from lineout, which is now the key attacking position from that set-piece.

Numpty pointed to the try he created against the All Blacks in Bledisloe 3 last year.

“I’m not saying he is a world-class player, but his ball-running and line-breaking ability are. Hell, the mere fact that he can make the Reds’ and Wallabies’ starting team with so many deficiencies highlights just how good his attacking skills are.”

Running at space in an unstructured situation, Petaia is a potent force. He has power, he can move both ways and he can offload in contact. When the defence is still in good shape, it can draw a reckless desire to make the big play out of him, even when the chance of success is low:

In the first instance, Petaia offloads when the support has already run past him. In the second, he kicks the ball away into an area policed by three Argentine defenders. And in the third, he fails to secure possession before making his move on the tackler.

Making a majority of solid choices under a lot of physical pressure is the essence of a number 13’s work nowadays – ask Jonathan Davies or Conrad Smith.

Don said, “I want my fullback to be able to take on the second playmaker role rather than my 12. I think Petaia would play an Isreal Folau-type role at 15 rather than a Beauden Barrett-type.”

If we speculate that Jordan Petaia plays at 15, and further that Hunter Paisami is being groomed as the second playmaker to eventually take over from Matt To’omua, who now gets the vacant spot at number 13?

Jordan Petaia. (Photo by Bradley Kanaris/Getty Images)

Evidence from the first round of Super Rugby AU indicates that Len Ikitau may get an early look from Dave Rennie. He was a surprise pick in Rennie’s 2020 Wallaby squad with next to no senior professional experience, but the game he played in opposition to the man he replaced at the Brumbies, Tevita Kuridrani, helped explain why.

Fat Gary asked, “Len Ikitau had a strong game for the Brumbies against the Force. Do you see him as a genuine threat to Petaia’s Wallaby #13 jersey?” while Corw also saw him as an option.

Ikitau started by beating Kuridrani on the outside when the Force number 13 showed him space:

At 6:25, Kuridrani looks to have him lined up for the tackle, but within one long, razor-sharp stride, Ikitau achieves separation. What is particularly interesting from a Wallaby viewpoint is that Ikitau appears to be left-sided, carrying the ball naturally in his left arm and able to offload under control from there. That is an enormous help on right-to-left attacking movements, and a skill the Wallabies palpably lacked in 2020.

Ikitau promptly demonstrated that he could step sharply off his left foot when Kuridrani looked to block the outside route in their next one-on-one clash:

Kuridrani has come further across this time, but gets beaten on the inside shoulder instead. Ikitau’s long left arm ensured the movement continues with momentum after the offload to Irae Simone. If he can kick with his left foot as well, the Wallabies may really be onto something.

Ikitau’s final victory over Kuridrani sewed up the result for the Brumbies:

Ikitau does not need to make the clean break – he only has to create enough space to deliver one of those potent left-arm offloads to his inside support.

Len Ikitau (centre) with Andy Muirhead and Rob Valetini. (Photo by Mark Kolbe/Getty Images)

Summary
There is a tide in the affairs of the Quensland backline of flood-like proportions. They have a nice balance in midfield with James O’Connor and Hunter Paisami doing the playmaking, and Hamish Stewart leading the defence and managing the contact work.

That balance may be undermined if Queensland feel they have to develop Paisami in partnership with Jordan Petaia in the centres, and fully exploit the considerable investment in leaguie Suliasi Vunivalu.

If the Reds choose to keep Petaia at 14 or 15, he will not be learning the patience and shrewdness of judgment needed in the number 13 position at international level. Either way, there is a loser.

The Brumbies’ Len Ikitau is the joker in the pack. If he continues to develop his game through the domestic season at the current rate, it may push Petaia into the back three for good.

Others like Matt To’omua and Reece Hodge of the Rebels will have their first say on the matter this weekend, so the situation is only likely to grow richer and more complicated.

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The Crowd Says:

2021-03-09T00:56:31+00:00

Stu

Roar Rookie


Reece Hodge’s once-in-a-generation enormous boot must fully demoralise an opposition side when he can hoof it 80m downfield after they’ve worked so hard to run it upfield. What a waste. I’ll never forget those repeatedly poor Bernhard Foley pop gun clearances that gained us all of 15 metres, while a smokin Hodge sat there happy to peel off another 50m - bizarrely never used. Wish they’d just move him to 15 permanently and sink or swim with it.

2021-03-02T13:29:50+00:00

Choppies

Roar Rookie


Agree with everything you have said Nick. I would like to point out that I watched Jordan Petaia play at full-back in high school (twice), and was left utterly impressed. I saw him once against Gregory Terrace XV (which boasted Harry Wilson and Byron Ralston in the team) and once against BBC (which had Trevor Hosea). Over the years I have watched a number of talents come through GPS rugby, from Kalyn Ponga and Izaia Perese in 2015 to James Oconner in 2007. I genuinely think that Petaia impressed me the most out of them all, or at least to an equal amount as JOC. He was so calm under the high ball, so quick, such a good tackler - I remember thinking to myself back in 2017, "this kid literally does not miss tackles and does not get tackled". There was even the time against BBC I vividly remember, when he picked up Trevor Hosea (now starts in the Rebels second row) and dragged him 10m to the outline (Gorden Tallis style). When I heard he signed with the reds I thought for sure he would continue playing at fullback, it just seemed perfectly suited to him. Now I agree he has lost form over the last year, but keep in mind he just lost his father and was unable to morn properly due to covid separations, and he only just recovered from like his 3rd career hualting injury - a lot to handle for a 20-year-old. My thoughts? Give him time and play him at fullback, he's a star. Should he replace Jock Campbell? Yes. "Fairness" to Jock should not be considered if there is more upside in developing Petaia in the fullback position than there is in keeping Jock there - especially when it implies having BOTH Dugunno and Vunivalu on the wing. Fun Fact: GPS rugby 2017 in Brisbane comprised of perhaps its finest alumni playing one another, including Jordan Petaia, Noah Lolesio, Trevor Hosea, Fraser McCreight, Harry Wilson, Byron Ralston and Zaccy Lucas. And among them all, I believe JP shined the brightest.

2021-03-02T13:20:10+00:00

Choppies

Roar Rookie


Funny you say this Johnb. I too saw Jordan Petaia play at full-back in high school (twice), and was left utterly impressed. I saw him once against Gregory Terrace XV (which boasted Harry Wilson and Byron Ralston in the team) and once against BBC (which had Trevor Hosea). Over the years I have watched a number of talents come through GPS, from Kalyn Ponga and Izaia Perese in 2015 to James Oconner in 2007, and genuinely believe Jordan Petaia impressed me the most or at least equal to JOC. He was so calm under the high ball, so quick, such a good tackler - I remember thinking to myself back in 2017, "this kid literally does not miss tackles and does not get tackled". There was even the time against BBC he picked up Trevor Hosea (now starts in the Rebels second row) and dragged him 10m to the outline. When I heard he signed with the reds I thought for sure he would continue playing at fullback, it just seemed perfectly suited to him. Now I agree he has lost form over the last year, but keep in mind he just lost his father and was unable to morn properly due to covid separations and only just recovered from like his 4th injury - a lot to handle for a 20-year-old. My thoughts? Give him time and play him at fullback, he's a star. Fun Fact: GPS rugby 2017 in Brisbane comprised of perhaps its finest alumni playing one another, including Jordan Petaia, Noah Lolesio, Trevor Hosea, Fraser McCreight, Harry Wilson, Byron Ralston and Zaccy Lucas. And among them all, I believe JP shined the brightest.

2021-03-02T12:56:32+00:00

Choppies

Roar Rookie


From what I've heard about Mac (who declined numerous NRL contracts), he is the closest thing GPS rugby has produced since Kalyn Ponga in terms of a back with a scintillating step and pace. He has a crazy work ethic apparently, the last bloke to leave the gym kind of guy.

2021-03-02T06:10:34+00:00

Olly

Roar Rookie


You mentioned the key player that makes all this 12 talk redundant....Irae Simone. He is our best 12 by light-years. Not convinced of JP at 13 as he always goes on the outside of defenders (works at Super level not Test where you need to change the angle of the attack more often). JP has performed at his best on the wing as it forces him back in but would be interested to see him outside an actual 12...not Hunter who IMO is not a 12. Len Ikitau will be interesting to watch over the season.

2021-03-01T19:07:15+00:00

LifestyleSpecialist

Roar Rookie


Thanks Nic! Great reading here. Would be interested for you to revist this analysis of the Reds backline at work after they've played the Brums, Force and Rebs to see the state of play. Clearly not as effective against the Rebels last weekend as they were against the Tahs.

2021-02-28T23:21:15+00:00

Harty

Roar Rookie


True Sav, I'm not a massive Stewart fan but he is a good connector.

2021-02-27T08:02:53+00:00

Fin

Guest


Hi Nick, You will be pleased to hear that Hunter spends a lot of time with Dave Aldred to focus on his kicking game. With Jim McKay helping to open up his ball playing maybe Wismantel will get his triple threat conversion wish after all? That little chip over the top that JOC put in last night was called by Hunter so he is definitely thinking about the game as well.

AUTHOR

2021-02-27T06:53:54+00:00

Nicholas Bishop

Expert


Thanks on both counts AH.

AUTHOR

2021-02-27T06:53:25+00:00

Nicholas Bishop

Expert


Looking forward to seeing him in action Fin :rugby:

AUTHOR

2021-02-27T06:52:59+00:00

Nicholas Bishop

Expert


Tbh I suspect you've always had a lot of talent at the age group levels - it's how that talent is harnessed that really matters! :rugby:

2021-02-27T03:04:13+00:00

Armchair Halfback

Roar Rookie


Excellent as always Nick, Paisami continues to get better and better. The Rebels have co-opted journeyman Stacey Ili at 13 which is interesting... I know you're a big Leinster fan so keep an eye out for centre Jamie Osborne, still only 19 and playing very well off the bench for them....

2021-02-26T23:33:35+00:00

Waxhead

Roar Rookie


@Nic Great article again ???? And I’m very pleased Aust appears to be unearthing a new and better class of rugby players :silly:

2021-02-26T22:46:46+00:00

Fin

Guest


Hi Nick, I was at the game last night and was in seats close to the sideline. Watching the Reds reserves doing their warm ups it was pretty obvious from close up that Suli is built like a supreme rugby athlete. I suspect he is going to be a real handful once he becomes familiar with the game again.

2021-02-26T21:00:03+00:00

Hoy

Roar Guru


Yeah, the break by Stewart was a good one, and the recycle was quick... If you looked outside, the Reds support was blocked from a pass by the Tah's player between them and Stewart... The only real options to get them ball were a bit risky as well... he took the safe option really.

AUTHOR

2021-02-26T13:48:02+00:00

Nicholas Bishop

Expert


Tom Wright showed an unexpected maturity when promoted to the WBs in 2020, at least for someone with so little high level rugby experience.

2021-02-26T13:28:23+00:00

The Late News

Roar Rookie


yep. the line outs would be impressive!

2021-02-26T12:20:23+00:00

Jezdexter

Roar Rookie


I can see Mack Hansen getting a bit of time at 15 this year for the Brumbies when Wright comes back from injury. Way too early to call but that bloke has the potential to be Brumbies first choice fullback before the season is out. With the hole in that position at Wallaby level him and Campbell could make a run on it this year. At super level, Hansen, Wright and Banks/Muirhead would be a fast, skilled back 3.

2021-02-26T12:15:13+00:00

mzilikazi

Roar Pro


I think that is correct, savant....I saw him play in the Downlands game in his last year.....his goalkicking superb in that one.

2021-02-26T11:52:49+00:00

Take the Points

Roar Rookie


Absolutely agree, I think for the brumbies Banks in fullback and wright on the wing is great, but Wallabies level I think Wright has all the attributes to be the 15 there

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