My very early All Blacks World Cup squad

By JD Kiwi / Roar Rookie

Happy New Year, everybody! After a refreshing Christmas I’m ready to start thinking about rugby again, how about you?

We’re now halfway through the World Cup cycle and the All Blacks’ performances have left me as pessimistic as I’ve been about their prospects for a very long time.

The addition of Joe Schmidt to the brains trust is welcome of course, with his top-level success and experience in Europe. But will this make up for a boss who has underachieved as head coach at both Super and international level?

In this article I will quickly summarise our top and bubbling under players in each position and name a possible squad for the big dance.

Then it’s up to you – who would you select and what do you think of our chances? And what about your nation’s chances if you’re not a kiwi?

Remember, we have a 33-man World Cup squad now, which could give us a spare in almost every position, plus extra props, hooker and halfback. Here are the players I would consider, position by position, plus a final selection.

Fullback

Jordie Barrett
Our player of the season, he is so reliable in the air and off the boot. Forget about him at 12, he’s built for jumping not crashing and does it so well.

(Photo by Ian Hitchcock/Getty Images)

Damian McKenzie
He is not our first choice due to a lack of physicality but he’s our third best flyhalf, second best fullback, and he can play wing, and he offers a brilliant point of difference.

Ones to watch – Mitch Hunt and Josh Ioane
Can one of these make a late run? They are too inconsistent so far, but there is potential there.

Wing

Will Jordan
He is a prolific try scorer with great instincts and he is good in the air. He covers fullback. He has to be there.

Rieko Ioane
He must be in the team, and despite his excellence in a surprisingly open game against France, wing is the position where he is world-class.

He will spend some time at centre of course, even if it’s when the bench is emptying, but I’m not sure about him there in a tight game against a highly physical rush defence.

Caleb Clarke
We are crying out for a power wing and this 22-year-old could be the man. Let’s see how he goes against a team like South Africa or Ireland, who will provide stern resistance on the gain line and pose serious questions aerially. But boy can he bowl over bodies.

Sevu Reece
The 33-man squad allows a full complement of wingers (unless we go for an extra back-five forward or prop) and with his x-factor and experience, Reece may well benefit.

(Photo by Phil Walter/Getty Images)

One to watch – Leicester Fainga’anuku
The 22-year-old Leicester Ofa Ki Wales Twickenham Fainga’anuku (wow!) is a powerful, dynamic bloke who did everything right on the wing and in the new position of centre in his breakout Super Rugby season.

Let’s see his progress compared to the other power winger Caleb Clarke, or will he emerge as a world-class power midfielder?

Don’t forget – George Bridge
He has the experience and good skills, but commits too many errors for someone without great x-factor.

Centre

Anton Lienert-Brown
He is our midfield glue, wide defence leader and clever stepper. Lienert-Brown has to be there.

Jack Goodhue
After showing so much instinct and maturity in his debut season, Goodhue isn’t yet the player I expected him to grow into.

He is still in my squad though with experience, size and quality. Like Lienert-Brown, he is better at centre than inside centre.

Ones to watch – Peter Umaga-Jensen and Braydon Ennor
A power runner with x-factor, Umaga-Jensen had an average Super Season but at just 23 I wouldn’t count him out at either 12 or 13.

Ennor has gas, but needs to learn the finer points of a vital platform position.

Inside centre

Quinn Tupaea
He showed in Paris that he can cope with a big 12 like Jonathan Danty and slip a tackle in heavy traffic. He has class and at 22 he will only improve the finer points of his game.

Roger Tuivasa-Sheck
Given our weakness at 12 and preference for Lienert-Brown and Goodhue at centre, I’m going to tentatively back the world-class league convert to earn his place in his favoured position.

On the other hand he could go the way of Benji Marshall…

(Photo by Tony Feder/Getty Images)

Don’t forget – David Havili
He looked lightweight at 12 against the heavyweights and threw that match-losing intercept in Paris.

But he has versatility, smarts and skills so I won’t count him out. He was excellent against Australia and coach Ian Foster likes him.

Flyhalf

Richie Mo’unga and Beauden Barrett
Neither particularly excelled this year but along with McKenzie are head and shoulders above the rest.

Halfback

Aaron Smith
He is the oil that keeps the All Blacks’ machine ticking. How much did we miss him this year?

Folau Fakatava
He was desperately unlucky to miss the international season after a stellar beginning to his Super Rugby career.

He is a supremely gifted padawan to the ultimate Jedi master. Add some experience and he could complete the perfect one-two punch behind the scrum in France. How we missed the two wee Highlanders this year.

Brad Weber
He is definitely our next best at the moment. Our performance went up a notch in virtually every match when he came on this season.

Always quick to the breakdown and scooting past the pillar defence, he’s worked so hard to improve his inconsistencies.

One to watch – Xavier Roe
He’s not played much Super Rugby yet, but has real flair and could be a bolter.

Don’t forget – TJ Perenara and Finlay Christie
Perenara has great heart and competitiveness with a regal history making things happen from the bench. Some of his passing and decision making was awful this year though.

(Photo by Chris Hyde/Getty Images)

Christie I just don’t think is Test quality aged 26.

Number eight

Ardie Savea
He may not be the perfect eight, but who is at the moment? His leg drive is something special.

He is a leader of the team too, and with his x-factor, he has to at least be in the 23.

But no, he’s not suited to the defence-leading grind of the All Blacks’ openside role and it would detract from what makes him special.

Luke Jacobson
He was poor after illness in his last two games. Does this mean that he’s not got the physicality at the very highest level?

It’s a reasonable question and time will tell, but he’s always really impressed me and I’ll tentatively give him the benefit of the doubt. This will be a vital season for him.

Don’t forget about – Akira Ioane and Hoskins Sotutu
They have so much talent but they need to up their work rate and physicality. Hopefully Joe Schmidt will be a good influence on them because they have the talent to star in black.

One to watch – Marino Mikaele-Tu’u
He hasn’t quite cracked the squad yet but the 24-year-old is powerful and dynamic.

Openside

Sam Cane and Dalton Papalii
The 2020 player of the year and his heir apparent are highly effective workaholics and we need at least one of them on the field at all times in big matches.

Cane’s injury record has to be a concern, but if he’s fit he’s one of the first named.

(Photo by Cameron Spencer/Getty Images)

Blindside

Ethan Blackadder
He threw himself into the action bravely and tirelessly. What an energiser. There is a question mark over his raw size and power as a six in big matches.

Shannon Frizell
After an average Tri Nations in 2020 he seemed to have improved his on-field weaknesses no end in Super Rugby 2021.

But he denied himself the opportunity to prove that he could dominate in big Tests. He needs to make sure that he behaves as an All Black should.

Ones to watch – Cullan Grace and Tom Robinson
A big bloke who tackles hard and jumps well, the 21-year-old Grace had severe second-season syndrome but still has a ton of potential.

‘Big Red’ has an impressive frame and good head under his luxurious ginger locks but needs to be dominant in the close quarters at Super level.

Lock

Sam Whitelock and Brodie Retallick
Are they on the wane? I seriously hope not because the next in line will scare no one.

We need to manage the gruesome twosome cleverly or someone else will need to seriously step up.

(Photo by Amilcar Orfali/Getty Images)

Whitelock showed in Europe that his captaincy doesn’t match the hype, with two losses and that decision to waste rare, precious, under-the-sticks field position against Ireland, but he’ll be a good back-up.

Scott Barrett and Tupou Vaa’i
They are not world-class but they are the next best available, especially with two more years of experience for the 21-year-old before France.

I wonder whether the coach is considering him at six. He’s not a massive lock and Foster did once plan to put him on there, but Barrett made the on-field decision to move there instead.

Meanwhile, ‘Scooter’ could get plenty of work rotating the locking position with the big two.

Ones to watch – Josh Lord, Pari Pari Parkinson and Manaaki Selby-Rickit
Lord reminds me of a young Whitelock and at 20 has time to fill out. Perhaps not enough though for France.

The others are big, rugged locks, which we need, but they are no longer youngsters and are still yet to convince at Super level.

Don’t forget about – Patrick Tuipulotu
Can Schmidt finally transform this excellent Super Rugby leader into a punishing Test lock? He added impact off the bench against South Africa, which could be his future role.

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Props

Nepo Laulala, Joe Moody, Ofa Tuungafasi and Karl Tu’inukuafe
They are good experienced scrummagers. They are still our best props but need to improve around the field or they will be vulnerable to our improving, more versatile youngsters.

The latter two can play either side but Tuungafasi was underwhelming this year. Can he get back to his best?

Look out for – Ethan De Groot and Atu Moli
If these two can convince in the scrum (and the unfortunate Moli can stay fit), they have the impact around the park that could spell curtains for Moody or Tu’inukuafe. Moli can play tighthead too.

My Hail Mary bolter – Tamaiti Williams
He’s absolutely massive and a much needed ball carrier, so in theory he could be what we need off the bench.

He will be 23 in time for the big dance, so if he’s good enough in the scrum he will be old enough. He is another with experience at both loose and tighthead.

Hooker

Samisoni Taukei’aho
I’ve been bigging him up all year and in Paris the young law student finally got the chance to prove himself in the really big time.

Immensely powerful where we need it close to the ruck and in the front row, he’s my starting hooker, but we need to manage his workload and work on his throwing.

(Photo by Will Russell/Getty Images)

Dane Coles
He still has the fire and the power. If we can keep him going, he’ll be excellent off the bench like Keven Mealamu was in 2015.

Codie Taylor
He is not an All Blacks tight forward for me. He is lacking the power in close of the aforementioned players as well as accuracy in the lineout.

He has x-factor and experience though, but is vulnerable if Asafo Aumua improves. He can give the others a rest.

Asafo Aumua
He is not quite there yet as we saw against South Africa, but he is very dynamic and has two years to improve. He is at least part of the rotation before the big dance.

The shakedown: My very early All Blacks squad for the 2023 Rugby World Cup
Jordie Barrett
Damian McKenzie
Will Jordan
Rieko Ioane
Caleb Clarke
Anton Lienert-Brown
Jack Goodhue
Quinn Tupaea
Roger Tuivasa-Sheck
Beauden Barrett
Richie Mo’unga
Aaron Smith
Folau Fakatava
Brad Weber
Ardie Savea
Luke Jacobson
Sam Cane (captain)
Dalton Papalii
Ethan Blackadder
Shannon Frizell
Brodie Retallick
Sam Whitelock
Scott Barrett
Tupou Vaa’i
Nepo Laulala
Tamaiti Williams
Karl Tu’inukuafe
Joe Moody
Ethan De Groot
Ofa Tuungafasi
Samisoni Taukei’aho
Dane Coles
Codie Taylor

Summary
These next two years can easily go either way.

The potential for significant improvement is there. I’m hopeful that Schmidt will be the reality checking sounding board that Foster needs, and that we will strike the right balance between taking full advantage of our outstanding range of skills, and concentrating enough on the physical side of the game to get quick go-forward ball and hold the inside defence.

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Last season we had so many young players who will only get better with two more years’ experience and hopefully Smith, Fakatava, Cane, Goodhue, Tuivasa-Sheck, Frizell and Williams will make a big difference.

On the other hand, there are massive question marks over the head coach, numbers one to six, our ability to deal with a highly physical team with a rush defence, and the top-level longevity of our injury-prone captain and veteran locks, hooker and loosehead.

Meanwhile, young teams like France and Australia have a lot of room for improvement and others like South Africa and Ireland are settled and powerful. For once I’m pessimistic about our chances.

So what’s your team for your nation and will it and the coaches be good enough?

I bet that I’ve forgotten someone…

The Crowd Says:

2022-01-11T08:05:54+00:00

Muzzo

Roar Rookie


Hi JD, & a pretty good squad, but I'll guarantee Foster will bugger it up mate

2022-01-06T22:52:28+00:00

Bingo

Roar Rookie


What an amazing list NZ has! The only thing that can beat them is complacency, some ageing stars by Oct 2023 and France. I expect the wallabies squad to be united but young; risk takers but skilled; resilient and very tough. Can’t wait!

2022-01-06T13:15:07+00:00

Faith

Roar Rookie


I hope Schimdt plays strict schoolmaster to Foster's nice drunk Uncle vibe.

2022-01-06T13:13:48+00:00

Faith

Roar Rookie


Nice summary, Pedro

2022-01-06T13:11:35+00:00

Faith

Roar Rookie


Wasnt this site started by NZ rugby expats? Your name should be SundaySchool - NoClass

2022-01-06T13:09:31+00:00

Faith

Roar Rookie


Great comment West

2022-01-06T13:08:07+00:00

Faith

Roar Rookie


ABs have the highest no of individual players as always, they also have the poorest coaching regime in Tier 1 which really impacts key aspects of the game like forward play and breakdown even if the backs can still produce magic. The kind of reffing done nowadays also makes ABs game plan harder as they are yet to adapt to breakdown.

2022-01-06T13:04:09+00:00

Faith

Roar Rookie


I'm not a Blues supporter but I think they need to win SR comps for their ultra talented players to get the confidence they need at ABs level. I would take the pain at SR level for the greater ABs good.

2022-01-06T13:02:38+00:00

Faith

Roar Rookie


Sheck at 12? Worth a try because we don't have answers at the mo. For me Jordan and Rieko on wings.

2022-01-06T13:00:52+00:00

Faith

Roar Rookie


Thanks JD - this is piece is so good because it covers all the bases that ABs and their fans need to think about between now and '23. I'm glad you are pessimistic - I am too and see France, WBs and Ireland as '23 faves. Boks physical gameplan will catch up with them. England will be completely exhausted by EJ. Wales can't beet SH sides twice in a row that's needed to win. As good as the combos and players we as ABs have, Foster is so low on coaching stakes (compare him to all other Tier 1 coaches - just home Schmidt has a real say esp on forward and breakdown play) to win the 6 games needed for an RWC win. Great calls on Sheck, Fakatava, De Groot and Samsoni.

2022-01-05T09:16:10+00:00

Loosey

Roar Rookie


The riches at the disposal are just ridiculous. I wouldn't mind seeing a switch of Jordie to 12 and having a look at him. With his size, think he'd be quite a threat, 15 would have to be Will Jordan then. You'd have a potent weapon at second five to go with his brother or Richie.

2022-01-04T21:46:25+00:00

Otago Man

Roar Rookie


Not a too bad squad here, I think Peter Umaga-Jensen is the one player that should be heavily invested in. A big man in the midfield with skills. My leftfield would be Fabian Holland, the reserve lock for Otago who might of just turned 20. I’ve got a feeling him and Pari Pari Parkinson are the next generation of really big men needed in the 2nd row.

2022-01-04T08:49:00+00:00

KiwiHaydn

Roar Rookie


No A Ioane, Tuipolotu, TJP, Havili, Bridge and Ennor is a good start!

2022-01-03T01:09:41+00:00

Ankle-tapped Waterboy

Roar Rookie


So many "if only" "could" "maybe" about almost all of these players. This discussion reads like an ability and capability discussion of strengths. However the piece of the All Blacks puzzle that worries me is the aspect that was handled so well by Gilbert Enoka. I am deeply concerned that there's no Enoka in the squad support. If there is someone in that role, please enlighten me! I'd like to see the same article based purely on "who would be top of Enoka's list".

2022-01-02T23:31:43+00:00

Peter Kelly

Guest


I think Schmit is at this stage in the selector role as was Fox, it does though bring him on the inside should we need a replacement or to be ready in 2024. I see 2024 with Schmit as head and Robertson/Joseph as assistants

2022-01-02T23:01:54+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


I think too much is being made of the selectors position. He is a selector and I expect him to do that role. Not a advisory role as many are suggesting.

2022-01-02T22:44:14+00:00

Grugby Fan

Roar Rookie


Disagree PM the players are all of high class. Since Hansen ran out of ideas and by default our current head coach the players are being fed stale oats and having to rely on pure ability. That just isn't working anymore. Haven't seen a different tactic since Foster took over. Sad but true.

2022-01-02T22:37:57+00:00

Grugby Fan

Roar Rookie


Great comments and agree with most selections. My fear is that the head coach has changed nothing evidenced by on field performances. These are a very talented group of players however when rush defences bash them their options are poor or at least poorly executed. Remember most rush defences have strategies to cover the options thrown at them. So that leaves forward options. Not much has changed from the old 'earn the right to go wide first' strategy and that is our current archilles heel. Whether it be a panic approach because all else fails or a captain's call the pick and go is still a game changer when executed well as it presents so many options. Do our forwards have the will and ability to do this? Of course they do but to read the timing and execute the best outcome is the key. Aaron Smith is the best reader and conveyor of this approach and he needs to be there and his co-halves need to be on the same page not looking about like headless chooks waiting for the forwards to finally give up the ball and the opposition have reformed their defensive line. The options should already be formed in their brains without having to stand erect and inspect the bloody field. I, like others fear that the head coach is scrambling for options when the answers are under his nose.

2022-01-02T20:41:29+00:00

Armchair Halfback

Roar Rookie


:laughing:

2022-01-02T10:43:40+00:00

WEST

Roar Guru


We all know most things about Foster, played nearly 150 games for Waikato played for the Chiefs in the late 90s.. Foster was a co-coach of the Junior All Blacks for a few spells from 2005 to 2007 and in 2009 when the team was unbeaten in 16 matches. Coach the Chiefs 2004-2011, Chiefs made the Super Rugby finals in 2004 and the final in 2009 under Foster, who had a 50% win ratio with the Chiefs. Then worked under Hansen 2012.. Now. Head coach of the ABs.. so far he’s had 21 tests, lost 5 with 1 draw won 15. his win ratio is around 71%. This year we lost to the Boks, Ireland and France, last time that happened was 2009. But! You have to go back to 1973 for the last time the All Blacks lost two consecutive tests against Northern hemisphere teams in the same season. With the defeat to France, he became the first All Blacks coach in the modern era to lose consecutive tests in his first two years on the job. But despite all that, the All Blacks played 10 tests in 13 weeks, so he was blaming a bit of it to the travel demands, the quarantine rules.. I agree it’s not the usual standards of touring. But that doesn’t explain everything. The poor strategy, lack of improvement? After 13 weeks on tour why does the team look so unorthodox, they looked disorganised? To the point it looked as if the team had never played together. According to a NZ Herald poll 80 per cent of fans want Foster to be replaced by Robertson. Anyway.. Foster needs a kick in the back side. NZRU won’t be doing the public any favours if similar results occur in 2022. it’s concerning when NZRU starts ignoring its biggest fans, end of the day it’s supporters that keeps this team alive. Without support a team will perish.

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