Experts Roar: Who should be in Team of Origin: Cleary or DCE, Ponga or Tedesco, Carrigan, Cotter?

By The Roar / Editor

Now that the annual interstate conflict is done and dusted with Queensland yet again proving their critics wrong, which players enhanced their reputations to make the Team of Origin.

With the World Cup on the horizon at the end of the year, Kangaroos squad berths are up for grabs so we’ve asked The Roar experts to come up with their Origin Merit Team.

That means anyone who wore a NSW or Queensland jersey in the Maroons’ 2-1 series victory is eligible irrespective of whether they will nominate for Australia or another nation at the global tournament in the UK.

Maroons rookie Patrick Carrigan was a surprise winner of the Wally Lewis Medal for player of the series and is one of several fresh faces who pushed their cause at Origin level hoping to reach international honours.

The Roar experts have their say and if you’d like to do likewise, fire away in the comments section below.

Experts Roar – Teams of Origin

Michael Hagan (premiership-winning player and coach)

Jack Wighton and Reuben Cotter only played one game in the series but I had to find room in there somewhere for each of them. Daly Cherry-Evans just gets the nod over Nathan Cleary for halfback.

1 James Tedesco
2 Daniel Tupou
3 Valentine Holmes
4 Jack Wighton
5 Brian To’o
6 Cameron Munster
7 Daly Cherry-Evans
8 Payne Haas
9 Ben Hunt
10 Tino Fa’asuamaleaui
11 Cameron Murray
12 Kurt Capewell
13 Isaah Yeo
14 Harry Grant
15 Pat Carrigan
16 Reuben Cotter
17 Jeremiah Nanai

(Photo by Cameron Spencer/Getty Images)

Paul Suttor (Roar expert)

It was actually hard to select the forwards given there was so much chopping and changing, due to injuries and game by game selections. Even though Queensland won the series, Nathan Cleary should have his nose in front in the race for the Kangaroos No.7 jersey.

1 James Tedesco
2 Brian To’o
3 Valentine Holmes
4 Matt Burton
5 Daniel Tupou
6 Cameron Munster
7 Nathan Cleary
8 Payne Haas
9 Ben Hunt
10 Patrick Carrigan
11 Cameron Murray
12 Kurt Capewell
13 Isaah Yeo
14 Kalyn Ponga
15 Tino Fa’asuamaleaui
16 Jake Trbojevic
17 Reuben Cotter

Tim Gore (Roar expert)

  1. James Tedesco – Was the best fullback throughout.
  2. Kalyn Ponga – Can’t leave him out although not quite as good as Teddy, so he gets a wing spot.
  3. Valentine Holmes – Played all three matches and was the standout centre for the series.
  4. Jack Wighton – Only played one game but still earned this spot on that effort.
  5. Dane Gagai – He had an impact greater than all of the wingers who took part so he gets the spot.
  6. Cameron Munster – Clearly outpointed Jarome Luai and was man of the match in game one.
  7. Daly Cherry-Evans – To the victor go the spoils.
  8. Junior Paulo – A slow start to the series but really did well overall.
  9. Ben Hunt – Had the most impact of anyone who played No.9.
  10. Tino Fa’asuamaleaui – I’m a Tino fan. He never stops trying.
  11. Cameron Murray – Would Queensland have won if Murray doesn’t get knocked out? The bloke can play.
  12. Patrick Carrigan – Outstanding all series. Has arrived at the top level.
  13. Isaah Yeo – Outstanding and consistent effort throughout.
  14. Nathan Cleary – MOM in game two. Has to be included.
  15. Liam Martin – Worked so hard. Let no one down and really took it up to the Queenslanders.
  16. Lindsay Collins – The third best prop in the series, in spite of his HIA.
  17. Kurt Capewell – What can’t he do? Just a great player in attack and defence and is so versatile.
  18. Koroisau – Did a really good job at #9 for the Blues.

(Photo by Mark Kolbe/Getty Images)

Mary Konstantopoulos (Ladies Who League)

  1. James Tedesco
  2. Brian To’o
  3. Matt Burton
  4. Valentine Holmes
  5. Kalyn Ponga
  6. Cameron Munster
  7. Daly Cherry-Evans
  8. Payne Haas
  9. Ben Hunt
  10. Junior Paulo
  11. Cameron Murray
  12. Felise Kaufusi
  13. Isaah Yeo
  14. Harry Grant
  15. Jai Arrow
  16. Patrick Carrigan
  17. Jacob Saifiti

Joe Frost (Roar expert)

1 James Tedesco
2 Daniel Tupou
3 Valentine Holmes
4 Matt Burton
5 Brian To’o
6 Cameron Munster
7 Daly Cherry-Evans
8 Payne Haas
9 Harry Grant
10 Jake Trbojevic
11 Cameron Murray
12 Kurt Capewell
13 Patrick Carrigan
14 Tino Fa’asuamaleaui
15 Kalyn Ponga
16 Jacob Saifiti
17 Ben Hunt

Danielle Smith (Roar expert)

Regarding the recent sooky la-la about Origin being the audition for a Kangaroo jersey, and if you don’t want to play for Australia then you shouldn’t play Origin: the door has to swing both ways – if you didn’t play in the Origin series, you don’t get to play for Australia. Sorry Latrell.

Based solely on who played State of Origin this year – as well as how they played (you know, because it was an audition) – this should be the Australian side.

  1. James Tedesco
  2. Kalyn Ponga (He has to be somewhere – the two Origin fullbacks were outstanding)
  3. Matt Burton
  4. Valentine Holmes
  5. Selwyn Cobbo
  6. Cam Munster
  7. Daly Cherry-Evans
  8. Tino Fa’asuamaleaui
  9. Ben Hunt
  10. Jake Trbojevic
  11. Kurt Capewell
  12. Liam Martin
  13. Pat Carrigan
  14. Harry Grant
  15. Payne Haas
  16. Reuben Cotter
  17. Jeremiah Nanai
  18. Tom Dearden

(Photo by Bradley Kanaris/Getty Images)

Stuart Thomas (Roar expert)

Selecting a best 17 from the recent Origin series is a challenging task. Many players peaked at great heights before floundering and there were changes aplenty across both squads for a variety of reasons. The fullback position is one of the more interesting debates, with James Tedesco getting my nod over the bench-bound Kalyn Ponga, despite the mastery the Queensland custodian produced in the final match.

The wing positions are problematic, with no real consistency shown by any of the speed men, whilst Valentine Holmes and Dane Gagai must be the centres, with New South Wales’ options not convincing in my view.

The halves pick themselves and the Queensland dominated pack is reflective of where the series was won, with only Jake Trbojevic and Liam Martin earning spots in the starting line-up. I’m not sure if the balance of the team is perfect, but in terms of merit, this would be my collective best 17.

1 James Tedesco
2 Daniel Tupou
3 Valentine Holmes
4 Dane Gagai
5 Corey Oates
6 Cameron Munster
7 Daly Cherry-Evans
8 Josh Papalii
9 Ben Hunt
10 Jake Trbojevic
11 Jeremiah Nanai
12 Liam Martin
13 Patrick Carrigan
14 Kalyn Ponga
15 Damien Cook
16 Tino Fa’asuamaleaui
17 Payne Haas

Mike Meehall Wood (Roar expert)

Men’s Origin was strange, because in a lot of ways, NSW played better across the 240 minutes but lost the crucial moments. I’d say they were better in the first 40 in Game 1, all of Game 2 and the first 40 of Game 3 – but managed to leave points out there and make themselves vulnerable for when Queensland eventually got their act together.

My team reflects that a little. It’s an inexact science as well, because if you told me to list the top 10 players across the series, I’d have James Tedesco and Kayln Ponga, Nathan Cleary and Daly Cherry-Evans, when obviously, I can’t pick two fullback and two halfbacks. You could say the same for Api Koroisau, who was excellent, but behind the Maroons’ hooker rotation.

Conversely, none of the wingers were really that great – Brian To’o, who is consistently good, was the best – and I’m not sure that, Val Holmes aside, there’s much going for centres when Jack Wighton, Dane Gagai and Matt Burton only played one good game across three.

The Origin game I enjoyed the most was the Women’s game, so extra bonus Jillaroos Merit Team beneath that will put 50 on every side they face in York and Leeds this November.

Men

1 James Tedesco
2 Selwyn Cobbo
3 Valentine Holmes
4 Matt Burton
5 Brian To’o
6 Cameron Munster
7 Daly Cherry-Evans
8 Payne Haas
9 Ben Hunt
10 Tino Fa’asuamaleaui
11 Cameron Murray
12 Kurt Capewell
13 Isaah Yeo
14 Harry Grant
15 Pat Carrigan
16 Felise Kaufusi
17 Kalyn Ponga

Women

1 Emma Tonegato
2 Tiana Penitani
3 Isabelle Kelly
4 Jess Sergis
5 Evania Pelite
6 Kirra Dibb
7 Ali Brigginshaw
8 Mille Boyle
9 Brittany Breayley-Nati
10 Chelsea Lenarduzzi
11 Kezie Apps
12 Tazmin Gray
13 Siamama Taufa
14 Tarryn Aitken
15 Caitlan Johnston
16 Destiny Brill
17 Sarah Togatuki

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The Crowd Says:

2022-07-20T22:44:10+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


My rules for these sorts of teams, is you can only pick players in positions they played. Whereas I might squeeze Ponga into a test side, for the Origin series, I can only pick them where they played 1. Tedesco - Ponga was very good, but Teddy pipped him 2. To’o - not a great series for wingers but To’o was his metre eating best 3. Holmes - far and away the best centre in the series 4. Burton - his performance in the game 2 win was better than Wighton in game 1 loss 5. Gagai - wasn’t selected on the wing but probably spent more time there than in the centres, so technically I’m not breaking my rule :silly: 6. Munster - easy 7. DCE - Cleary’s Game 2 was better than anything DCE produced, but DCE was elite in Games 1 and 3 and was overall better across the series 8. Papali’i - I know he didn’t play big minutes across the series but I thought his contribution was great every minute he was on the park. I didn’t think Haas was up to his usual standard 9. Hunt - brilliant in Game 3 and strong across the series 10. Fa’asuamaleaui - best prop of the series 11. Murray - huge loss for Game 3 12. Capewell - brilliant across the series. His Game 3 try was pure Origin 13. Carrigan. I know he only started at lock once but he was far more effective across the series than Yeo - who wasn’t bad - and deserves the starting spot 14. Grant 15. J Trbojevic 16. Nanai 17. Martin

2022-07-20T22:32:11+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


100%… I reckon every you could look at the post season tests / tours and there will be multiple guys picked for Australia who didn’t play Origin This idea that Origin is the only selection criteria for Australia is an absolute myth getting perpetuated because of the international eligibility

2022-07-20T22:31:27+00:00

Dwanye

Roar Rookie


To me the Test team is being picked like the Origin, not ‘always’ on form or a few good games, selectors will pick a guy cause he plays at a consistently high level, week in… They are confident ‘that’ game he’ll perform.

2022-07-20T22:06:02+00:00

Dutski

Roar Guru


But… some of them aren’t Panthers???

2022-07-20T21:49:59+00:00

Jack

Guest


Dont care whos in the side as long a theres no mitchell, cleary or andrew johns!!!

2022-07-20T21:08:36+00:00

Seymour Richards

Guest


Unbeatable !

2022-07-20T12:45:52+00:00

Chuck

Guest


Yep, with a backline like that it could even be start of a dynasty........ :stoked:

2022-07-20T11:18:00+00:00

Tony

Roar Guru


I concur

2022-07-20T10:50:13+00:00

Mr Right

Roar Rookie


Next year, injuries aside I believe the Blues Backline will be Teddy, JAC, Mitchell, Tommy, To’o, Burton, Cleary & Wighton on the bench. Queensland were fantastic this year but that Blues backline will be very hard to contain & keep within a defendable score line.

2022-07-20T10:41:32+00:00

Nat

Roar Guru


If this team is purely off this series than Ponga gets the nod over Tede. Tede has the RMs but Ponga has the tries, LB, TA & LBA that contributed more toward the outcome. To that same extent I don’t think Tupou added that much but he played 3 consistently average games. He’ll get it over Cobbo by the size of the lump on Cobbo’s head. Burton had a good G2 but who in the NSW team didn’t. His time is inevitable but not yet. Big Papa is duped by limited time from the coach. In G3 he got 95rm, 19 tackles in 33 minutes. Ponga Gagai Holmes Wighton To’o Munster DCE

2022-07-20T07:36:44+00:00

Lovey

Guest


Going on the expert’s player ratings he slightly shaded Ponga over the series, but he benefited from the NSW dominance in Game 2. We all know Teddy’s attributes, but I also think that skills-wise, he is not the “complete “ fullback.

2022-07-20T06:26:59+00:00

Womblat

Guest


Yeah that's a really capable, solid and fair (in terms of form) team. Cotter could be considered a bit lucky but he's obviously born for this high range stuff, and I'd be starting Yeo instead of Capewell, but that is one awesome mob of footy players on paper.

2022-07-20T05:48:12+00:00

Adam

Roar Guru


That's the love most fullbacks get...

2022-07-20T04:53:05+00:00

Dutski

Roar Guru


Oh dang it!

2022-07-20T04:43:44+00:00

Red Rob

Roar Rookie


Sorry Dutski, now I’m just being a Payne in the Haas :stoked: . You probably made the same mistake I did – searching for Carrigan by “Pat”. Including “Patrick” Carrigan, he made all 8 sections. . But he did great work from the bench, so leave him there. :thumbup:

2022-07-20T04:31:26+00:00

Dutski

Roar Guru


Well if we're going total votes then squeezing them in to positions you get this side (second number is total no of votes) 1 Tedesco 8 2 Ponga 7 3 Holmes 8 4 Burton 5 5 To'o 6 6 Munster 8 7 DCE 8 8 Haas 8 9 Hunt 8 10 Tino 8 11 Murray 6 12 Capewell 6 13 Yeo 6 14 Grant 6 15 Carrigan 5 16 Jake T 4 17 Nanai 4 Cotter and Tupou also got 4 votes but looking at the balance of the bench rules out Tupou and Cotter's bench votes weren't as valued as Jake and Nanai's starting votes.

2022-07-20T04:30:42+00:00

Elmono

Guest


Is everyone's love of Teddy based on the fact he runs from the 10m to 30m line 15 times a game?

2022-07-20T04:25:17+00:00

JGK

Roar Guru


Good to see that a couple of experts remembered Cobbo's blinder in the first match.

2022-07-20T03:16:50+00:00

Red Rob

Roar Rookie


I know it’s not exactly scientific, but Ponga (7 selections, wing/bench) over Tupou (4 selections at wing)? . And the Wally Lewis Medalist only makes the bench? :shocked:

2022-07-20T02:33:01+00:00

eagleJack

Roar Guru


Very kind of you

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