ANALYSIS: Roosters hopes hanging by thread as Raiders sneak home - will they have the hard conversation with Tedesco?

By Mike Meehall Wood / Editor

The Roosters’ finals hopes are hanging by a thread after another dispiriting defeat, this time 20-18 at the hands of Canberra.

It was same old, same old for Trent Robinson’s men in 2023: their attack was off, James Tedesco failed to make an impact and they conceded enough soft tries to ensure that they lost the game. 

Now, with seven wins on the board and a likely 13 needed at a minimum, they must have next to no margin for error. Next week’s trip to Manly could see their season over before the Origin period is completed.

Joey Manu was their only shining light, with two excellent tries, but beyond him, there was little else. Luke Keary and Jared Waerea-Hargreaves had a crack, but the attacking issues that have plagued them all year were on full display.

“I think we’re getting closer to nailing it,” said Robinson on their faltering attack. “We’ve identified what we think it is. If it was completely clear, we’d have had it fixed by now. There’s a few timing issues that are just slightly out of sync. It’s cost us this year, but I know it’ll open up.

“We just have to keep belief in the way that we’re preparing our system, and then loosen the grip. We’re choking the club at the moment trying to get it right. We need to allow a bit more freedom.”

Their opponents, however, march on. This was far from vintage stuff from the Raiders either, but they have become experts in winning games where they don’t look at their best. It’s a good skill to have.

On this occasion, they were indebted to the boot of Jamal Fogarty. His first spiral bomb caused Tedesco untold problems and, not for the first time, the bulk of their points came from his kicking. 

Canberra raced into an 18-point lead before the Roosters had fired a shot, then managed the game from there.

After a poor defeat to the Warriors last time out, this was exactly what Ricky Stuart needed. It is now nine close games that they have won this year.

“You can look at it as experience,” replied Sticky when asked why his side were so successful in tight fixtures.

“A lot of the boys know how to hold on to a lead and run a game down. They play a little more patiently.

“There’s so many facets to that game tonight – losing Papa so early and playing with one middle on the bench put a lot of extra strain.

“There were guys that were wounded but played on tonight, and it shows great resilience and character in the team.”

The injury toll from this game could haunt both sides with crucial fixtures coming up. Josh Papali’i left early with a hamstring injury that could rule him out for several weeks, while Angus Crichton also departed with an MCL issue.

Egan Butcher went off with a head knock and Jake Turpin with a rib complaint, to add to Nat Butcher’s Achilles issue and Sitili Tupouniua’s nerve problem. Bad as they have been at times, the injury toll is also a major issue for Robinson, especially in key spine positions.

The Roosters need to make a call on James Tedesco

It’s hardly news at this point, but the Roosters attack is absolutely dreadful. The lack of inventiveness is staggering for a side that continues to field Manu, Keary and Tedesco.

They had plenty of opportunity here, but created next to nothing. It was all side to side, no support runners and no deception.

Canberra, like so many before them in 2023, have worked out that the old-school umbrella defence can simply funnel Tedesco back into the middle, especially when Victor Radley is doing the ball-playing.

It calls into question the direction going forward.

Last week, Manu was a revelation at the back and the spark of everything good that the Roosters did, whereas tonight, back out in the centres, he barely touched the ball.

The first time he got the ball in anything like a decent situation, he scored. That came from Keary engaging the line, a runner being in motion to keep the defence honest, plus a late offload from the five eighth. In short, it was all the stuff that the Roosters haven’t been doing of late.

Then, Manu grabbed their second with a trademark leap for a kick. It was if he was auditioning to be involved more. The Kiwi centre ended the game with 12 possessions, ten runs and over 100m. When he got the ball, he was generally threatening. But he got nowhere near enough.

Things were less rosy at the back. Tedesco, the 2023 version at least, looks predictable and caused the Raiders no trouble at all. Defensively, he was responsible for several tries, being outjumped by both Jack Wighton and Seb Kris.

Teddy has all the runs on the board that he could want, but something has to give because what is currently happening is unsustainably bad.

Why are Canberra good?

Canberra are, unquestionably, a good football team. They’re sixth in the ladder, ahead of the much-vaunted Rabbitohs and Sharks, both of whom they have beaten this year.

Yet they also have a strongly negative points difference and, on a performance level, have often underwhelmed. When they’re bad, they’re really bad.

Ricky Stuart has been in charge since forever, but there’s not really a discernable style of play that one would associate with the coach. The Raiders are more a vibe, all effort and niggle. They must be a nightmare to play again.

The kicking of Fogarty helps, because he’s continually able to punt them out of trouble, and indeed, over the tryline. Wighton, who scored tonight, periodically does something spectacular but it’d be a push to say he’s been at his best.

Instead, there’s a whole lot of nuggety, awkward players – Jordan Rapana, Corey Horsburgh and the chief, Joseph Tapine – who generally play really tough and make life incredibly difficult for their opponents.

In a lot of ways, they do bear the mark of their coach. They play like the world is against them, with a real chip on their shoulder, a desire to make things uncomfortable. We’ll go there, can you come with us?

Maybe this is why they get whacked: if the intensity isn’t there, then nothing else is. It might prove a limitation against good teams with deeply learned systems.

But it’ll also bring them boilovers – think of the hold they have over Melbourne – and win them a heap of scraps like this one tonight. 

Canberra are the NRL’s ultimate counter punchers, happy to take whatever form their opposition least want to see. They won this on points in a stinker, and Ricky will take that all day long.

The Crowd Says:

2023-06-26T11:47:16+00:00

Dumbo

Roar Rookie


I can't see Teddy retiring while he has another 12 month contract to go, on huge money. The face-saving solution is for him to be "injured" this year, and announce his retirement on medical grounds. Easts could then pay him out for next year, without the payment falling under the cap. [Unless I have completely misunderstood how the system works]

2023-06-26T09:49:34+00:00

Cam

Roar Rookie


Good players have been getting old and become average players for a hundred years now. The really good players like Tedesco have built up enough goodwill to ride out form slumps, but the issue Teddy has is, the Roosters have an exceptional player ready to replace him.

2023-06-26T09:16:13+00:00

Brett Allen

Roar Rookie


I disagree, he started his career at the Tigers in the centres. He can still defend at a high level, and provide veteran leadership. I’d just swap Joey & Teddy.

2023-06-26T09:11:21+00:00

Brett Allen

Roar Rookie


Agreed

2023-06-26T09:10:58+00:00

Brett Allen

Roar Rookie


Well that’s for the Roosters to make a decision about.

2023-06-26T09:10:06+00:00

Brett Allen

Roar Rookie


He’s not selfish, he has every right to play for as long as someone will pick him. He’s only 30, he’s still got plenty to offer, just not as a key position player.

2023-06-26T05:27:23+00:00

Muzz Manyana

Roar Rookie


So what do you about Teddy? It's hard to hide when you're playing fullback.

2023-06-26T04:32:51+00:00

Diamond Jackie

Roar Rookie


I was there last night and the Canberra kickers were putting the ball 30% higher than the Roosters' pop gun kicks. It made a massive difference

2023-06-26T03:51:20+00:00

dogs

Roar Rookie


But why retire? *IF* he's not the best fullback in the squad, and cannot play any other position, and they're happy to go with a new captain, then he can play NSW cup. Sorry, one of my pet hates across all sports. Why do people call on stars to retire from the game they love? Why can they not slowly drift down the grades while still competing for a spot? So much melodrama.

2023-06-26T03:43:10+00:00

Forty Twenty

Roar Rookie


Turbos stats were much better than Teds but I was well aware that something wasn't right with either of them. Stats are only part of the story. The reverse applied when Ted and Mitchell were at the Chooks together. I didn't rate them and particularly Mitchell on his stats because I noticed Mitchell could almost score at will against the best players and that is priceless. Ted has been average for ages, he's just more average now. I was surprised it wasn't noticed earlier.

2023-06-26T03:24:05+00:00

criag

Roar Rookie


Roosters’ attack has been limited for a few years now, and lost a lot of potency with the loss of Latrell (as would any team, it seems). Keary creates the odd break, but concussions seem to have taken a toll. Sure, Teddy can’t make as many breaks in attack as he used to, but more importantly, there’s not a lot of holes being made for him to run through. Last night the result could’ve been different if players (and the ref once or twice) hadn’t made errors at crucial times. But the real difference last night was the Roosters lack a kicker who can kick high and/or long, which is a major advantage in this day and age. The Raiders kicks constantly put the fear of god in the receivers. They dominated field position and scored two tries from attacking high balls.

2023-06-26T02:49:29+00:00

astro

Roar Rookie


Someone has to tell Victor Radley that an important part of rugby league is what you do when your team has the ball. Offensively, he's giving the Roosters next to nothing. 13 is a key position in modern rugby league, and when you look at Radley, his defence is great, but most other aspects of his game are really lacking. Discipline is obviously the biggest problem, but in an average game, Pat Carrigan runs for 130mtrs. Yeo 110mtrs. Hopgood the same. Radley runs for 55mtrs. He has zero (as in less than one) offloads for the year. Radley's line engagements per game are 4.6, which isn't too bad, but his post-contact mtrs are only 20mtrs per game vs Hopgood at 43, Yeo at 46, Carrigan at 55, Finucane at 34, Matterson at 46 etc... I'm not saying he should play like Murray or Yeo...he doesn't have the passing skills anyway, but he has to offer something when the Roosters have the ball.

2023-06-26T02:41:36+00:00

mushi

Roar Guru


It's a minority view amongst east's fans I hope.

2023-06-26T02:39:03+00:00

mushi

Roar Guru


Can't really use that excuse for yesterday. The forwards were winning the set exchanges, felt more like fogarty just killed 2 of our back 3. That said calls for sacking teddy are ridiculous.

2023-06-26T02:34:18+00:00

mushi

Roar Guru


The difference between yesterday and the games you commented on earlier in the season can be seen on the stat sheet. He was either breaking tackles or the line, he was more involved as a passer. Anecdotally anyone who'd watched the roosters could see he was looking to feed players but no one was there. Yesterday he had 1 combined Tb, lb,lba or offload, and his 1 tb was worth 50cm. He never looked like creating a sweeping ball movement or breaking the line. His weird short kicking was prop like. If he'd played like yesterday when you made the observation I'd have agreed with you. But sadly "out if form" early tedesco looked miles better than the guy out there yesterday.

2023-06-26T02:02:56+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


I only picked Edwards because his name has been thrown around. Insert whoever you think Why would Edwards have made the tackle that Teddy, Luai and To’o missed? Wasn’t Teddy ‘out of position’ for the Hammer try because he’d just been involved in stopping a try under the posts the play before? That’s not bad play on Tedesco’ part..

2023-06-26T01:50:04+00:00

Albo

Roar Rookie


I wouldn't be pushing for Edwards for the NSW fullback spot for his attacking prowess either. But I know at least , in defence Edwards wouldn't have been caught out of position in Adelaide for the Hammer first try , nor missing Cobbo in that sideline dance, nor would he have failed to pass to the unmarked JAC when 5 metres out from a try.

2023-06-26T01:41:41+00:00

souvalis

Roar Rookie


Been a while since I’ve seen the cold blooded ruthlessness in that killer tackle by the Inflictor on Jamal Fogarty.

2023-06-26T01:40:26+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


Teddy is clearly not playing well at the moment, although he’s had some good NRL games in the past 4-6 weeks. I think the problems start well inside him for both the Roosters and NSW We’ve learned that Tedesco isn’t the player to be coming into a backline going mostly sideways. Not sure there are too many fullbacks who are. I love Dylan Edwards but the idea that he could just be dropped into the crabbing, one out NSW backline for any sort of meaningful improvement is borderline laughable

2023-06-26T01:06:39+00:00

Muzz Manyana

Roar Rookie


Edwards will play game 3 Imo. Joe, How much muscle has Paps put on?

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