The Peter puzzle: Why is Peter Siddle being picked for Australia?

By The Regulator / Roar Rookie

“We love Siddle ‘cause he’s a Victorian,” chanted bays of fans at the MCG on Day 3 of the 2013 Boxing Day Test after Peter Siddle trapped Michael Carberry LBW for 14.

The 2013-14 Ashes series would be the last in which Peter Siddle featured regularly as Australia’s third seamer. For the next three or so years he would feature sporadically at Test level as the likes of Mitchell Starc, Josh Hazlewood, James Pattinson and Pat Cummins began to emerge as Australia’s new crop of fast bowlers.

After a two-year hiatus Peter Siddle emerged as an injury replacement for a tour of the UAE and now finds himself in the squad to face both India and Sri Lanka. Siddle isn’t just a possible third seaming option for Australia anymore; he’s Victoria’s third seamer, with Scott Boland and Chris Tremain sitting atop the Sheffield Shield wickets this season.

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It leaves you to wonder why one of those two – and you can add young West Australian Jhye Richardson to that as well – isn’t first of the bench for the Test side.

While Siddle had once been a more than serviceable Test bowler, his ODI selection was a real headscratcher.

After a nine-year hiatus from ODI cricket Siddle was recalled to the Australian one-day squad to provide veteran leadership to the other young and inexperienced quicks in Jason Behrendorff, Jhye Richardson and Billy Stanlake. The results spoke for themselves.

His return to ODI cricket has seen figures of 1-48 off eight and 0-58 off eight, with his only wicket being tailender Kuldeep Yadav. His economy rate is over a run a ball (6.62) and his strike rate is a whopping 96.00.

He has yet to bowl his allotted ten overs and was overlooked to bowl crucial death overs in Adelaide last night – those were left to Behrendorff in his second ODI. Behrendorff is primarily a new-ball bowler as well, so that alone doesn’t reflect well on Siddle as the senior member of the fast bowling attack.

With age – Siddle is 34 – okay domestic form, a prime that peaked nearly five years ago and proven ODI bowlers like Kane Richardson and Nathan Coulter-Nile in form, why is Peter Siddle being selected? His BBL form from 12 months ago isn’t valid anymore, yet since Justin Langer has taken the reins as head coach Siddle has come from out of nowhere to feature in four of Langer’s five squads. That’s just some food for thought.

While Behrendorff and Richardson have earnt spots through continued form to replace the resting Starc, Hazlewood and Cummins and with Nathan Lyon being trialled as a second spinning option for the World Cup starting in May, Siddle’s inclusion has been both unwarranted and unsuccessful.

The Crowd Says:

2019-01-19T13:48:31+00:00

Mon

Guest


And there’s the problem. You should be picking your best bowlers that suit the pitch, opponent and conditions for that IMMEDIATE game or series, not the one coming up in a few months time. What was the benefit for our ODI team picking Siddle? Zero. Wasted spot as far as I’m concerned.

2019-01-19T00:37:58+00:00

qwetzen

Roar Rookie


I know why. It's so that watchers know that it's safe to go get a beer/have a slash/etc...

2019-01-18T20:20:56+00:00

badmanners

Roar Rookie


My mail is that one of Langer's unmarried daughters is a vegetarian.

2019-01-18T04:28:45+00:00

Timmuh

Roar Guru


Siddle is presumably getting picked on his County form, with both the World Cup and Ashes in mind. (Renshaw too, given he has bately scored a run since county cricket wrapped up.) That is despite Siddle's County returns being in FC and not ListA cricket. I'm not saying I agree but can be understand for limited overs stuff. But Tests are not to be used as trial games for future series.

2019-01-18T01:56:57+00:00

Peter Warrington

Guest


"patty" was Cummo, not Patto. my bad.

2019-01-17T22:36:54+00:00

Munro Mike

Roar Rookie


I'm a big fan of Pattinson but he's not ready for 2 tests let alone a whole series - slow rebuild there. The irony this summer so far is our big 3 quicks have been pretty nude - not much reverse to report (ran out of abrasive material I suppose). I do think Siddle has been learning new tricks - I've been super impressed with his red ball bowling that I've seen lately - even in the shield he is generally the best of the bowlers but doesn't always get the rewards he deserves and the point there is he's the perfect bowler for bowling partnerships. But no - he's not the long term future but hey - as we've seen with quicks breaking down - there's very rarely even a medium term future!!

2019-01-17T10:59:52+00:00

Peter Warrinton

Guest


Yes I am no fan of Starc over there. I would expect Haze to bowl a better length than last time I would get richardson at them and a wobbler or skidder. has to move it. Siddle bowls nude stuff. maybe go 4 quicks with Patty but I am not sure he will bowl the right length after a long season of rib tickling here

2019-01-17T06:28:24+00:00

Munro Mike

Roar Rookie


#Peter Warrington Although as I mentioned in the 2013 series, after 3 of 5 tests he had 16 at less than 22. You'd take that from any of the quicks for a 3 test output. FYI. Starc in England. 8 tests, 29 wickets at 31.24 (3.45 rpo) Siddle in England. 11 tests, 43 wickets at 28.37 (3.13 rpo) What's interesting - I didn't realise - Starc in Aust is only going at 29.22 on 'home' decks. Outside of that he only goes sub 30 in SL and WI!! Career wise he's only sub 30 v NZ (29.5), Eng (27.9) and then SL (19.14) and WI (17.91). Sidds is sub 30 v Eng (28.6), NZ (26.1), India (26.8) and SL (18.2). For Starc right now - 199 wkts at 28.91, a crack against SL couldn't come at a better time. Take away the 2 recent minnows and his other 153 wickets came at almost 32 each.

2019-01-17T05:02:07+00:00

Munro Mike

Roar Rookie


#The Regulator There is of course no correct answer!!! re Renshaw - he's had the dilemma of very slow starts to home domestic seasons....that made himself unselectable. I'd've been happy enough if a Burns-Harris opening combo had been run with. Finch surprised at the time to get in but did an admirable job in the UAE and deserved retention and was pretty good in Perth in perhaps the most difficult conditions - but it was never fair on him to be a makeshift opener especially given his white ball duties cut short his red ball preparations. So - now we get Renshaw back on the radar - and lowly (currently) Sri Lanka coming to town. And ironically the below par SL side has reduced the CAXI (QLD) top 3 to rubble....good to see Pucovski settling the ship.

2019-01-17T04:59:19+00:00

Peter Warrington

Guest


dead rubber and helpful deck. it was a one-off. he averaged above 30 in his full series at his peak.

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2019-01-17T02:06:47+00:00

The Regulator

Roar Rookie


Fair points, MM. While I have mentioned his Test selections, this is more focused on his one day selection. Like I said, Peter Siddle is a proven Test bowler, but in a transitional period it’s probably time for ‘next man up’. The Terry Alderman comparison is valid as well, and I think if healthy Chad Sayers would have been nearly a lock. County form is warranted, no doubt especially on a conditions basis but if it’s horses for course then Matt Renshaw who had a great county stint as well, should have been playing Test cricket since the UAE. But thanks for challenging my thought process mate!

2019-01-17T02:03:07+00:00

Munro Mike

Roar Rookie


I just don't know why he was permanent 12th man - and we didn't then rotate the quicks (who were struggling so sustain performance on limited prep). Siddle was bowling really well in the shield - but - now he's been limited to net sessions (under the watchful eye of the selectors!!).

2019-01-17T01:46:48+00:00

Munro Mike

Roar Rookie


I suspect you'll find that he is earmarked to go to England for the Ashes series. It's a little ironic - based on the last tour there he was finally selected for the Oval test, and produced 37,4 overs, 17 maidens and took 6-67 and the English were expressing their relief that he hadn't been picked sooner. He bowled beautifully in tandem and guys like Lyon and Mitch Marsh benefited at the other end. That series Starc and Johnson played 5 tests each for a combined 33 wickets at over 32.5. When you think back to Terry Alderman twice taking 40 wickets in a (6 test) series in 1981 (42 and Lillee 39) and 1989 (41, Lawson 29). So - gotta be clear - test guys going at a combined 3.3 wicket a test wasn't up to speed. The irony is that the previous tour in 2013 he'd started off pretty okay with 8 for 135 in Nottingham but I think it was a drier season and he/Aussies tended a little short - and while at the half way point after Manchester he had 16 for 347 (avg under 22 so perfectly fine) - he only took 1 more wicket including 0/90 at The Oval. In that tour in 2013, Harris was the star with 24 wickets in 4 matches at 19.58. Siddle still ended with 17 a 31.58 which was ahead of Starc (11 @ 32.45) and Pattinson and Bird were worse. Even back in the Brett Lee days Australia seemed to think we could blast them out with pace - it rarely worked and guys like Fleming and Reiffel who were more suited were overlooked (think 1993, 6 test series - moved McDermott out and Reiffel in the final 3 tests took 19 @ 20.84. So - horses for courses. In 1989 Alderman was 33 - and was the LBW master in English conditions. Siddle also had a ripping 2 stint season for Essex in 2018 with 37 wickets at 16.4. Given the track record of Starc in England and his tapering form since Durban - surely his position is not assured. Perhaps Hazlewood and Cummins, with Siddle and Lyon.

2019-01-17T01:37:03+00:00

JohnB

Roar Rookie


The selectors seem to think he'll do well in England - where the 50 over World Cup is in a few months, followed by an Ashes series - based on county form last year. It's not difficult to argue that accurate fast medium with a little movement is more successful on many of the pitches there than straight out pace (particularly pace not tied to a bit of accuracy). Whether he goes to England, gets a game or proves successful time will tell, but picking him now as a preparation for England isn't totally unreasonable.

2019-01-17T01:33:37+00:00

Paul

Roar Guru


I thought Siddle's selection for the Tests was completely based on context. He was chosen for the UAE on the strength of his bowling in England in the County summer, where he killed it. Remember at the time too, we had all 3 of our quicks coming back from injury, the Test side had a new captain, it was still coming to terms with the debacle in SA and the selectors a guy who could reliably bowl over after over. After that, I have no idea!!

2019-01-17T01:31:44+00:00

terrykidd

Roar Pro


His manager has a lawyer who is holding a video starring the entire CA Board, coach and selectors :)

2019-01-17T01:23:33+00:00

Paul D

Roar Guru


Maybe CA don't want to be accused of being ageist Agreed too that being able to outfox domestic BBL batters is no indicator that a bowler is going to outwit international players. Brad Hogg had everyone befuddled for years in the BBL but he still was utterly ineffective when picked to play T20I's for Australia in 2012 and 2014.

2019-01-17T00:49:05+00:00

peeeko

Roar Guru


i dont htink its like Touch football but agree there is a difference

2019-01-17T00:28:13+00:00

VivGilchrist

Roar Rookie


I’m giving you a thumbs up for your name.

2019-01-16T23:59:24+00:00

JamesH

Roar Guru


Great bloke tho

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