It is time to name and shame the people who take and share the videos

By Tim Gore / Expert

Another week, another scandal involving an NRL player.

It is time that we just accept that as the norm rather than some aberration.

Every time some video or picture comes out of a player, I dunno, doing a Tik Tok dance when meant to be in quarantine; throwing haymakers at some punter in Kuta; having sex with someone in (a) a bedroom, (b) an alleyway or (c) a bathroom stall; going berserk outside a nightclub; or even urinating in their own mouths, we hear this line come out of someone’s mouth: “they are meant to be role models”.

What a load of rubbish.

They are young men who are very good at playing rugby league and as a result get a lot of money, free time and adulation as well as attention from amorously minded admirers.

Now, anyone who has experience around young men – especially those with above-average sporting abilities – will know that the above list of ingredients is the equivalent of things you mix together if you want to create an explosion.

So whoever thinks that their part in regard to the game of rugby league amounts to or should be equated with them also being role models are off the mark.

The fact that they are talented on the football field does in no way equate to them being perfectly behaved off it. Yet that equation is regularly made.

Most young men do stupid things. I certainly did. Any idea I had of standing for public office was scuttled by my best mate who swears he’ll sell all the videos of me the instant they are worth something. I’m not going to detail all of the dumb things I did; my point is that lots of young men do them, and for the most part absolutely no one cares because we’re not famous.

NRL players, however, are famous.

While a great swathe of them keep their noses clean or at least keep their disgraces private, there will always be some who get into public strife, whether that be drugs, drunk driving, fighting or being caught in sexual acts. The way things are currently done, that trend will continue.

However, it is possible to keep rugby league players out of trouble. All you have to do is put really stringent measures in place.

1. Heavily limit the amount of money they have access to
If a player has lots of money, they can buy things like lots of alcohol or drugs or gamble heavily. These activities can often end badly.

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2. Heavily restrict the amount of free time players have
Unsupervised young men often get up to no good, especially when they are in packs. I know I certainly did. However, I’m neither interesting nor famous. People are, however, interested in what first-grade NRL players get up to. I suggest introducing curfews and constant supervision for all players if you really want to avoid scandal.

3. Actually sack players who transgress stated moral and behavioural codes
This will of course involve actually stating what the moral and behavioural codes are and sacking the players, no matter how good they are, who break them. If players realise that they’ll really be held to account when they disgrace themselves, perhaps they’ll actually pay attention to what is asked of them.

However, there are two huge measures that never get considered but really need to be in this whole equation.

4. Closely vet the people the players are associating with
This vetting process should examine whether the people are of the sort of character that will care nothing for the reputation or career of the individual or the fortunes of their club and do things like take incriminating or unsavoury photos or videos of the players and disseminate them to a wide audience.

The sort of people who, for example, think it is okay to take videos over the top of toilet door stalls and send them to people should be fairly easy to pick, as they are likely to be complete tools who laugh only at their own jokes, have no real friends and find great humour in the misfortune of others.

A basic character assessment should get rid of at least 80 per cent of these tools, drastically reducing the risk to players and their consenting partners.

(Anthony Au-Yeung/Getty Images)

5. Name and shame these people
While there is no question that some of the acts that are recorded are unsavoury, the people who record and disseminate them – especially those taken without consent – are just awful people. It is not their names and reputations that get tarred, yet they play a central role in really hurting others emotionally and reputationally and possibly ruining their careers too.

If they are prepared to take the photo or video and share it, they shouldn’t mind having their name and photo shared publicly as well along with what they did. If that started happening, perhaps lots of them would think twice before carrying out such heinous acts.

In the case of the Eels player and the poor young lady he was with – as well as the other incidents involving videos taken of players and their consenting partners without their consent over the last few years – they have been massively and horribly wronged.

Yet, possibly because they are rugby league players and people who associate sexually with rugby league players, they might be seen as fair game.

That’s not fair at all.

The NRL Integrity Unit’s focus should be establishing whether any registered player had any role in taking or disseminating this illegal video. If they find a player or players have been involved, those players should be deregistered and face police charges, as should any non-players involved.

Otherwise, all efforts should focus on looking after the victims in this event – the unnamed Eels player and the young lady he was with.

It is high time that the vermin who carry out these acts were named and shamed.

Give them the 15 minutes of fame they deserve.

The Crowd Says:

2021-04-29T03:56:32+00:00

Mooty

Roar Rookie


One game.......WoW

2021-04-23T08:21:34+00:00

GregM

Roar Rookie


yes, the press will fight tooth & nail to “protect their sources” and then happily print peoples names when someone is accused, but not found guilty when it suits them. there is little / no honour in journalism anymore – it’s all about getting the story out there first with the most dramatic headlines

2021-04-23T07:59:40+00:00

GregM

Roar Rookie


some of the players are probably too busy checking out their own reflection & calling out their own name to notice a phone above the door / cubicle

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2021-04-23T05:56:27+00:00

Tim Gore

Expert


Well, one person could be really sick and needing, and receiving, help. It could be one person helping another with a clothing issue. It could be really upset people trying to find privacy or safety. It could be a parent with a child. That's off the top of my head of things I know to have occurred in cubicles, all of which are completely reasonable. Sex and drug use - as well as ablution - aren't the only things that happen in them. Its not quite as cut and dried as you're making out Oceanview.

2021-04-23T05:17:06+00:00

Monorchid

Roar Rookie


There's a lot on this thread about the legality of videoing activities in toilets. Pretty disgusting thing to do in my opinion. There may be a sinister reason for this apart from putting the video on a social media platform for the "fun" of it. The example of flogging the video off to the press has been well covered on this thread. But a concern could also be that the video could be used to blackmail the player, and that has got to be illegal. On the other hand, why would a player run the risk of being caught out by a cretin with a mobile 'phone? The answer is simple. Just don't do it.

2021-04-23T02:35:05+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


Agreed the bloke is a dog, but there’s dogs out there who’ll do this sort of stuff. If a player has a couple of hundred grand a year contract and a career on the line, risking it for a root in dunny is pretty silly

2021-04-23T02:15:39+00:00

Guy Hazlewood

Roar Rookie


They’re rich enough to afford an uber to their place, do the business, and both head back to the venue. If they both want to get with each other so bad and not be caught, they’ll find the way. The dog shouldn’t of filmed them in the first place.

2021-04-23T01:28:39+00:00

Stormy

Roar Rookie


I know it's not PC to say so, but, as long as there are girls/women who view hooking up with celebrities, especially sports stars, as their aim, some will always take the bait. You can't put an old head on young shoulders. Add alcohol........!

2021-04-22T23:55:37+00:00

Got me some glass and stones in me house

Guest


Yeah look at All Blacks. Like Zac Guildford.

2021-04-22T14:35:10+00:00

Pepito

Guest


???? Their manager's are to inflate the value of a player and maximise a contract offer, then collect their fee. Nothing more. They are not some kind of personal assistant.

2021-04-22T14:29:31+00:00

Brainstrust

Roar Rookie


Tyrone May hasn't gone to jail so if he did it multiple times why would anyone go to jail. The one person you know did it you haven't named and shamed. I cant see how someone in a public toilet cubicle would not notice a phone held over the door, let alone be unable to notice where the doors are around a foot off the ground that someone is there.

2021-04-22T13:15:48+00:00

Ian_

Roar Rookie


Meh, if you do grubby shit in (semi) public places, you deserve whatever negative consequences come from it. If you want privacy, do it somewhere private. If you don't want negative consequences, don't do things that could have negative consequences in places where you could be exposed. That said, I do think filming people in toilets is a low act. But if you don't want to be filmed, don't do things that draw attention to yourself. Easy! I'm very pleased that phones weren't around when I was doing drunken, foolish things.

2021-04-22T13:06:30+00:00

Ian_

Roar Rookie


Isn't helping them manage their finances a part of what they are paying their managers to do?

2021-04-22T11:50:44+00:00

Oceanview

Guest


If 2 people are in a cubicle what are they up to? Stay classy League players and league fans???? unbelievable.

2021-04-22T10:00:33+00:00

Pepito

Guest


Shocking comparison. Those cameras you mentioned are there to prevent crime and maintain public safety. And even then limits exist... There is a base level of privacy afforded to an individual. Cameras aren't set up in toilets, locker rooms, showers, change rooms etc etc as a respect to the fundamental right to minimal privacy. Not even in China would they put a camera in a public toilet cubicle. Bet you were too dumb to think of that eh? You're so far off the mark you've embarrassed yourself and anyone who is affiliated with you.

2021-04-22T09:55:42+00:00

Jack

Guest


Amazing how the media wants everyone else named when there is a story involved but want to protect their own sources when the media are the accusers!!!!

2021-04-22T09:52:54+00:00

Nat

Roar Guru


Obviously a bit of grandstanding somewhere there because he played last year. CHN chose to leave to the Raiders and he played plenty.

2021-04-22T09:41:26+00:00

GregM

Roar Rookie


Id say this meant he was sacked - having his contract torn up & deregistered by the NRL "On 1 April 2020, Okunbor had his contract terminated by Canterbury-Bankstown and was also deregistered by the NRL" (wikipedia) when u said Ok was different i thought you also meant he had other discressions and not just this one

2021-04-22T09:21:22+00:00

Nat

Roar Guru


What else? He went to the school as a representative of the club, they would never have crossed paths otherwise and that's when he has to make better choices. Like said, CNH was different, he has a case. Okunbor wasn't sacked, he's still with the club and maybe lucky to be so.

2021-04-22T08:57:09+00:00

Ben Lewis

Roar Pro


Fully agree Tim. Having sex in a public toilet certainly isn’t the greatest look, and I’m sure there’ll likely be some sort of sanction against the player in question for public indecency, but the far greater offence is the filming and leaking of the video. That is absolutely unacceptable and I sincerely hope that Mr. Eel and his partner take legal action against whoever the mystery director was; if they didn’t know about it. As an aside, I get that some people have a kink for public spaces, but a public toilet is asking for all kinds of trouble.

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