The Roar's AFL expert tips and predictions: Round 8

By Stirling Coates / Editor

Tipping is a mug’s game.

I got four last week (as did Liam Salter and the Crowd) and I don’t wanna talk about it. Fancy new boy Dem Panopoulos got six and now leads us by three points. Good for him.

Fortunately, this week looks a heck a lot easier, so hopefully we can all recover with some nice scores and I’ll be in a much nicer mood next week.

Stirling Coates

Richmond, GWS Giants, Gold Coast, North Melbourne, Sydney, Port Adelaide, West Coast, Western Bulldogs, Brisbane

What a difference a week makes! All the questions we had about Geelong are back after they let a five-goal lead slip against the Swans, whereas the Tigers are who we thought they were.

No Patrick Dangerfield affects the Cats more than no Trent Cotchin affects the Tigers so, coupled with Richmond’s imperious recent record over the Cats, the reigning premiers get the nod.

Another side on the way back looks to be Greater Western Sydney, who proved beyond doubt they’re at least a finals challenger with last week’s demolition of the Crows. They haven’t earned ‘lock them in’ favouritism for any match just yet, but they’re a class above the Bombers and should move to even-stevens.

Gold Coast and St Kilda will be both be looking at their clash as one they’ve got simply no excuses to lose. Fun fact: the combined margin from their last four meetings is 11 points – hopefully we get another thriller.

The Saints probably aren’t as bad as we think they are – three of their four losses have been against Melbourne, Port Adelaide and Richmond – but Gold Coast have been playing a bit better than they’ve been getting credit for. I’ll ‘reward’ them with my tip.

Saturday evening is where things get really interesting. Collingwood look so dysfunctional right now that I couldn’t tip them against anyone. They’ve got great character and ticker, but they just seem devoid of genuine talent – the kind of side who will push the best sides all the way in a three-goal loss and fall short against the worst sides by the same margin.

North Melbourne have looked good for long stretches in the last few weeks and I’m going to back them to get their first win of the season.

(Photo by Dylan Burns/AFL Photos via Getty Images)

The other interesting tip I’ve got for you is the Swans to end Melbourne’s unbeaten run to the season. I like to think I’m usually pretty balanced with how I cover and tip Sydney, but I’m indulging this week in a pure heart-over-head tip.

We’ve (that’s right, not ‘they’, ‘we’) knocked off the Lions, Tigers (both away) and Cats this year – what more do you want? We’re a chance and I’m backing us.

The rest of this round we can just breeze through. Port Adelaide will snap in the Crows in half in a Showdown that will revolve unnecessarily around a jumper not being worn, West Coast will do just enough to down the Hawks in a close-but-not-really affair, the Western Bulldogs will rebound with aplomb over Carlton and the venue change snuffs out any chance Fremantle had against the surging Lions.

Couple of candidates for a Shoe-In of the Week and I’ll pick the Power – although I’m fully aware Showdowns can be a risky proposition at the best of times.

Dem Panopoulos

Richmond, GWS Giants, Gold Coast, North Melbourne, Melbourne, Port Adelaide, West Coast, Western Bulldogs, Brisbane

Picking a couple of upsets certainly helped last week, but with some more tough fixtures on the way, you can never be too confident in tipping.

If we’re happy to knock a couple of easy ones out of the way first up, we’ll settle with the Bulldogs to easily account for Carlton, and Brisbane to knock off Fremantle.

We can also put Port Adelaide as a guarantee, but only due to the opposition.

The Power are sitting pretty in third place with five wins, but as some of you may be aware, I’ve been vocal about being unconvinced by this team for weeks, so let’s not get too caught up in the impending 12-goal victory.

The grand final rematch should be a ripping contest to kick off the round, and you feel that Richmond have been the more convincing of the two teams this season, if only because we know of what they’re capable of.

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Usually, these games allow the classic ‘redemption, but not really’ narrative to emerge, but I need to see the Cats gel better before tipping them.

Lachie Whitfield’s return really helped the Giants’ structure, while Essendon is playing fast, free-flowing footy that’s fun to watch. This’ll be a really tight contest that probably favours the home team.

That mirage I spoke of last week regarding St Kilda has fooled everyone. If they’re legitimate, they beat Gold Coast by five goals. I doubt they are.

Melbourne’s defensive structure really takes a hit with Adam Tomlinson’s injury, but it seems unlikely they’ll be caught out the back by the impressive Swans.

If the Eagles manage to lose to Hawthorn, it’ll be the biggest footballing disaster of 2021, which is saying something.

Finally, and purposely left until last, the match of the round may well be North Melbourne versus Collingwood.

It has a primetime slot at one of the better stadiums, and you’d be hard pressed to find two more consistent teams this season. Up the Roos.

Liam Salter

Richmond, GWS Giants, Gold Coast, Collingwood, Melbourne, Port Adelaide, West Coast, Western Bulldogs, Brisbane

Last week’s results… ouch. I’m going to take my score of four, my successful tip of the Suns and my pessimism in my own team and run, telling myself that it was as good as week as one could’ve hoped. Unfortunately, this week doesn’t look much easier.

The blockbuster of the week is tomorrow night’s grand final rematch between Richmond and the Cats. The Tigers made a mockery of anyone who thought they were beginning to look less threatening, punishing a slightly-too-complacent Bulldogs last weekend to move into positive win-loss territory.

The Cats lost a controversial thriller to the Swans, and questions remain about how much of a force they’ll be this year. The Tigers are likely to see the returns of Dustin Martin and Nick Vlastuin, but suffer the exits of Trent Cotchin and Dylan Grimes. They’re still a stronger team and hold a good record over the Cats. They’ll win this.

The resurgent Giants host Essendon. I’ve liked the Bombers’ youth-focused season thus far, even if they’re well out of finals contention and, while GWS are favourites, I wouldn’t be surprised if the Dons sneak a win here. I’m not tipping that though – I think the Sydneysiders (albeit injury-ravaged) will back themselves in here at home.

Moving to Queensland, the Suns are on a rare run of form; the Saints are coming off one of their ‘oh, maybe they are a good team?’ weeks. That makes it tough to pick a winner, but I’ll throw caution to the wind and tip the home side here in what might be a secretly entertaining clash.

(Photo by Matt Roberts/AFL Photos/via Getty Images)

Immediately following that game, North host the Pies in Melbourne. Who wins? Not footy. Who actually wins? As much as I want to tip the Kangaroos – they’re surely bound to win one, and Collingwood are floundering badly – I just can’t. Pies to bounce back but have no alleviation from the pressure on them.

Melbourne face Sydney in what should be a sensational Saturday night clash. The Demons faced a tougher-than-expected clash last weekend against the Kangas – a game where I honestly thought they’d revert to form and throttle it – but they survived. The Swans remain exciting and a bit of a wildcard, but the I doubt the Dees will lose this one – especially at home.

The last match of note is Sunday’s Doggies-Blues clash. The Dogs earned their first blight for the season when the capitulated against the Tigers. The Blues did the opposite, staging a great comeback to earn their third win of the season.

The Blues have a habit of taking it right up to the Dogs – they’ve won two of the last three, coming within three points of the other. There’s significant upset potential here, but I need to tip sensibly this week, and I’ll go for the Bulldogs.

As is tradition, there’s always a few games that look relatively straight forward. I’m going to back in the Eagles to score a win over the Hawks, the Lions should be able to pip a humiliated Freo in Perth Brisbane and Port will bounce back against the Crows in a huge Showdown.

Round 8 Stirling Dem Liam Crowd
RCH vs GEE RCH RCH RCH RCH
GWS vs ESS GWS GWS GWS GWS
GCS vs STK GCS GCS GCS GCS
NM vs COL NM NM COL COL
MEL vs SYD SYD MEL MEL MEL
PA vs ADE PA PA PA PA
HAW vs WCE WCE WCE WCE WCE
WB vs CAR WB WB WB WB
BL vs FRE BL BL BL BL
Last week 4 6 4 4
Total 38 41 38 41

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The Crowd Says:

2021-05-07T23:57:00+00:00

Nico

Roar Rookie


Tipped Port, but hope the Crows get it done. Crows vastly more exciting to watch, and will probably get it done. Tempted to change tip...

2021-05-07T09:25:22+00:00

Maxy

Roar Rookie


Loved Josh Carr,tough as nails,will never forget Carr and Brown in the 04 grand final

2021-05-07T09:07:01+00:00

13th Man

Roar Rookie


Josh Carr made showdowns and derbies come alive. Seemed to lift as a player in both. I remember he was robbed of a Glendinning medal in a derby and the whole crowd booed Judd who got it. None of the current crop of Adelaide, Port or Freo and West Coast players have the same passion for the local rivalries it seems.

2021-05-07T09:05:14+00:00

13th Man

Roar Rookie


What's your feeling on all this Ross Lyon talk Pete? If I was a Collingwood fan I'd be seriously concerned, you don't want that guy anywhere near your club. I'd be relieved if they signed Bucks just so you knew Lyon was off the table. If they are going to sack Bucks, do it properly and bring someone younger in who will build something, not a dinosaur like Ross.

2021-05-07T09:03:01+00:00

13th Man

Roar Rookie


Looks a more straightforward week (hope this isn't the kiss of death..) Richmond (learnt my lesson last week, don't back against them) GWS (have turned a corner) Gold Coast (I like them at home, Saints so inconsistent) Collingwood (surely they don't lose this week, if they do Buckley is gone) Melbourne (8 and zip?) Port (even if they aren't wearing the prison bars) West Coast (this week they surely win away) Doggies (expecting them to bounce back with a vengeance) Brisbane (Can't remember the last time freo won at the Gabba, it won't be this week).

2021-05-07T08:13:04+00:00

WCE

Roar Rookie


Looks like Barrass isn't joining the group for West Coast and now Duggan is also out. I am stunned with our injury list of prime gun players. Incredible. Bailey williams, Foley and possibly a new recruit will be part of the team. I still think the Eagles will win , Go West Coast!!

2021-05-07T07:26:52+00:00

Maxy

Roar Rookie


yeah,only fare to bring points for or points against when all sides have played each other

2021-05-07T07:24:47+00:00

Macca

Roar Rookie


as reflected in the 53% difference in percentage I mentioned

2021-05-07T07:24:18+00:00

Macca

Roar Rookie


Yeah the Bulldogs North game is blowing out the stats a bit.

2021-05-07T05:35:56+00:00

Maxy

Roar Rookie


All well and good if Dogs and blues have played the exact same teams but that would be highly unlikel

2021-05-07T05:25:35+00:00

dab

Roar Rookie


Points against Dawgs - 437 Bloos - 640 This suggests that there is a huge gap between these sides.

2021-05-07T05:13:22+00:00

Doctor Rotcod

Guest


You haven't come across Harsh Truth Harry yet,then?

2021-05-07T05:10:52+00:00

Doctor Rotcod

Guest


To quote Greta,"Look at the science,Don" Freo has significant outs. Eagles have,according to science, much more significant outs. In fact, the difference between the Eagles,who have the greatest adverse effect and the Dockers, who have the second greatest adverse effect, is greater than the difference between the Dockers and the team with the eighth greatest adverse effect,the Tigers. How many premiership players on the Dockers' list of injuries? I didn't think so.

2021-05-07T04:56:21+00:00

Macca

Roar Rookie


Some hope for the Carlton fans to cling to against a very good Bulldogs side on the rebound; 1) Only 2 sides have had more scoring shots than the blues (ave 28.3) this year - Melbourne and the Bulldogs (30.6) 2) The Blues and Bulldogs average almost identical inside 50's (56.1 to 56 the Blues way) 3) Only 2 sides average more clearances than the Blues (38.9) - Geelong and the Bulldogs (40) 4) While the Bulldogs are 2nd for contested possessions this year, Carlton are 5th (148.9 to 141.3) To my hopeful mind this indicates that both sides have very similar styles and strengths and we should be in for a close, entertaining, high scoring game. Of course the fact that despite averaging only a goal a game different there is a 53% difference in percentage is pretty damning for the blues :unhappy:

2021-05-07T02:48:15+00:00

nics

Roar Rookie


I cant believe I actually agree with this post. There's enough niggle in the game. No need to take it out in the stands/carpark.

2021-05-07T02:45:56+00:00

nics

Roar Rookie


Clarkson to bring out his annual coaching special against WCE. I've said enough re injuries I think, so going to back off this one. Let's just say injuries can affect a team's performance, many injuries have a manifold impact on performance, and many injuries to good players... (sorry couldn't resist). Having said that, interested to see how the younger players go - Edwards, Allen (at the back unless Barrass is fit), Jermaine Jones (more midfield time with Duggan out), and Brander have the challenge of backing up/improving on last week's performances.

2021-05-07T02:25:57+00:00

Don Freo

Roar Rookie


Not as many as Freo.

2021-05-07T01:40:56+00:00

DingoGray

Roar Guru


My tipping has been on the absolute nose this year....Hoping to turn it around Tigers- Man they were impressive second half last week. Cats wasted opportunities against the Ducks last week. Think Tigers just too good Giants- Going ok at the moment. Reckon this will be a cracking game. Giants just. Saints- Which Saints turn up this week? They need to back a performance up. Pies- lose this and Buck's head might just melt. Demons- Look good. Trip to Mt Hotham might need to be delayed this year.... Port- have to respond after meek performance last week. Crows might of already hit the wall Eagles- down on troops, but Hawks aren't much chop Doggies- They are still flying. Would be disappointed with second half against Tigers Lions- Move to Home helps, Freo's injury list also helps.

2021-05-07T00:36:12+00:00

dab

Roar Rookie


Changing my mind, unsure about woods vs Norf. Anyone else?

2021-05-06T22:41:23+00:00

PeteB

Roar Rookie


Who’s Norts ? Sounds like something out of a sci fi movie !

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