Jarryd Hayne may belong in prison, but removing him from the NRL’s record books solves nothing

By Joe Frost / Editor

Outside the Cavern Club in Liverpool – that dingy, underground dive where a little band called the Beatles were discovered – there’s wall of fame, with a brick dedicated to each of the amazing artists who have played the venue over the years.

You can get lost marvelling at the names carved into the masonry, with the likes of Little Stevie Wonder, the Who, the Rolling Stones, Chuck Berry and Queen just a small sample (I haven’t been back in a few years, so couldn’t tell you whether Shane Watson has claimed a brick yet).

And for years, among the humble bricks bearing the names of the greatest musicians and artists of all time, there was a golden plaque that stood out like the dog’s proverbials that read:

Two performers who played
the Cavern Club between 1957 – 1973
have had their bricks removed
Gary Glitter
Jonathan King

(Photo: Joe Frost)

For the uninformed, both Glitter and King have been found guilty of child sex abuse.

I was fortunate enough to spend an hour interviewing one of the directors of the Cavern, Jon Keats, and asked him about the golden plaque highlighting the fact the worst kinds of criminal played the club but “have had their bricks removed”.

Jon explained that there had been a concerted push to have Glitter and King’s bricks taken out of the wall, which the club was largely against.

“They both played the Cavern so they had bricks in the wall. It’s part of the Cavern’s history and they did play. You can’t rewrite history, you can’t wipe history out,” Jon explained.

“It got into the national papers and it was just getting a bit tedious, so we agreed to take [the bricks] out.

“But we said, we’ll take them out but we’ll put a plaque to say that they’ve been removed, as a compromise really. Also knowing that that would cause a bit of shit as well.”

Classic Scouser. Chart a reasonable course, but never miss an opportunity to have a bit of a stir.

I’ve been thinking of the plaque of late as Jarryd Hayne was found guilty of two counts of sexual assault and jailed for a total of five years and nine months, leading to calls for him to be stripped of his individual honours – including his two Dally M Player of the Year medals.

(Photo by Mark Kolbe/Getty Images)

Peter V’landys responded to the calls on 2GB last Friday, saying “there will be consideration given and the Commission’s already discussed” stripping Hayne of his Dally Ms.

“It’s not hard to take them away, but we don’t want to prejudice the legal process,” the ARLC chairman said.

“We would like to see Jarryd exhaust his appeal process, once he does that we’ll make a decision.”

While an NRL premiership eluded the fullback during his career, his pair of Dally Ms went along with being the 2006 Dally M Rookie of the Year, the ’07 Dally M Winger of the Year, Dally M Fullback of the Year in ’09 and ’14, as well as Dally M Representative Player of the Year and Dally M Top Tryscorer also in 2014.

Presumably all those other Dally M awards would be stripped too, as well as his three Brad Fittler Medals as NSW’s best Origin player, being named the 2009 RLIF International Player of the Year, featuring in the NRL Team of the Decade in 2019 – and honestly we could keep going for a while because Hayne was a freak.

That’s a lot of very prominent awards to be suddenly missing from the history books.

So what are we to do? Put an asterisk next to anything Hayne ever achieved with the footnote:
*Jarryd Hayne was stripped of this award for criminal convictions.

Now, I know we’ve done that with the premierships for the 2007 and ’09 seasons, but the footnote on those reads:
*The Melbourne Storm were stripped of these titles because they cheated at the game of rugby league.

The Storm’s punishment applies within the confines of the game, because their offence occurred within the same parameters. That’s not what’s happened with Hayne.

(Photo by Mark Kolbe/Getty Images)

Back in 2012, when Todd Carney was still in the honeymoon stage at the Sharks and being held up as a feel-good story, I wrote about how he shouldn’t be stopped from playing rep footy on the back of his previous indiscretions – which ranged from idiot behaviour on the drink through to criminal convictions (plural) – but at the same time, it was foolish to say three weeks of good footy redeemed him.

My reasoning was that “when someone stuffs his life up away from football, the football field isn’t where he needs to redeem it.”

In that vein, Hayne has ruined lives away from football, so football isn’t where he needs to be punished.

As for the idea he is a bad role model, well duh. But being a good bloke has never been a prerequisite for being lauded for one’s athletic prowess.

Perhaps more importantly, the sporting public are not the type to ever let a person forget their errors.

In Karlo Tychsen’s relentless campaign to get a statue of Andrew Johns built out front of McDonald Jones Stadium, the primary source of dissent has been from people pointing out that Johns admitted to using recreational drugs throughout his career.

Three-time Dally M winner? Halfback of the Century? Eighth Immortal? Nup, none of that matters, because he dabbled in the devil’s dandruff. And boy will people bellow about it.

Of course, Johns is hardly alone.

(Tony Feder/Getty Images)

Mitch Pearce isn’t a premiership and Origin winner, he’s a dog shagger. Dylan Napa is now just ‘Big Papi’. And Hayne spent his final season being taunted from the stands for another sexual assault of which he was accused.

No one’s career exists in a vacuum, so discussions of what an amazing athlete Hayne was will now forever be tempered with ‘yeah, but…’

What’s more, it’s good that we have that discussion. People – particularly talented young athletes – need to see that no matter how high you rise, how many awards you win, how good you are at your chosen sport, the rules still apply. It doesn’t matter that your pool room is standing room only for all the trophies in it, you’ll be sent to the slammer if you break the law.

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To wash the game of Jarryd Hayne comes across as an attempt to duck that conversation, when the NRL should be looking for opportunities to address it – early and often.

It also opens a can of worms regarding what crime leads to being stripped of your honours. Do we let John Elias keep his place in history? What about Craig Field? And is there someone at HQ with the whiteout at the ready depending on the outcome of Manu Vatuvei’s case?

Ultimately though, to have so many gaps in rugby league’s history books won’t make people forget Jarryd Hayne, it just makes the NRL look like they’re avoiding the hard issues.

And it would stand out like a shiny gold plaque on a dirty brick wall.

The Crowd Says:

2021-05-13T22:02:57+00:00

Larry1950

Guest


Haven’t followed Hayne’s case closely but you reckon he’s got plenty of avenues for appeal? Strange statement there. I’ve got more faith in the jury system than some out of touch judges who look for anomalies & technicalities that don’t exist or impact in the real world. Don’t care if he keeps his awards, people know he’s a convicted sex offender & he’s got to live with those consequences. It’s just sad that when his name comes up the rugby league connection will be forever reported.

2021-05-12T11:59:55+00:00

Brian

Guest


If he verbally abused her no. If he tied her up, beat her up, raped her yes.

2021-05-12T09:52:38+00:00

Jason

Roar Rookie


I could go either way on this, both sides of the argument have strong cases. However, contrary to most posts here, the devil's advocate in me is screaming that maybe it's time that it should matter when serious off field incidents occur.

2021-05-12T09:17:52+00:00

Megeng

Roar Rookie


True that. But I note that I didn't want to accuse Einstein of anything in particular and I'm very aware that people will misread a hypothetical if it suits them to. The point is made nevertheless.

2021-05-12T03:46:15+00:00

Mr Right

Roar Rookie


Yes Gary Ablett Snr won 3 Coleman medals awarded to the player kicking the most goals in a AFL H&A season. Due to that after career incident with drugs, it would be ridiculous to take them off him & give them to the 3 separate players that kicked the 2nd most number of goals.

2021-05-12T03:37:44+00:00

Mr Right

Roar Rookie


Just make sure it isn't pinned to the roof above your bed!

2021-05-12T02:58:18+00:00


YOUSE??? BRUVVA??? Mmmmm

2021-05-12T02:54:43+00:00

Wayne Turner

Guest


A pointless and distracting exercise by the NRL to even look at this. Another distraction from the NRL,so people aren't talking about the poor refereeing (From missing so many forward passes,to bad handling of foul play.),lopsided games/competition,and the stupid rule changes. He got these awards for his then on field performances.Nothing more,and nothing less. It's trying to re-written history,when it shouldn't be. Just don't celebrate him,or use his image to promote the game now.

2021-05-12T01:43:41+00:00

clipper

Roar Rookie


The big difference is that Churchill did what he did for the greater good of the nation and the ideals at the time. Hayne just did it for the greater good of his own pleasure.

2021-05-12T01:28:22+00:00

Lara

Guest


A person who is good at a given sport, is just good at a given sport. I see a lot of sportsmen who are just that and no more.

2021-05-11T20:48:51+00:00

Vivalasvegan

Roar Rookie


100% agree.

2021-05-11T20:02:56+00:00

soapit

Roar Guru


not sure on this myself. definitely think he obviously shouldnt be celebrated and i can understand the nrl wanting to draw a line and make a statement of acceptable societal behaviour but would feel a bit silly to just have a gap in the record books where everyone knows what was there but not talked about. but if youre compiling a list of dally m winners it would be a mouthful to have something like the gary glitter statement there for haynes year.

2021-05-11T19:50:57+00:00

soapit

Roar Guru


i think the glitter one is about right to me. dont try and pretend the history didnt happen but not celebrate the fact. not sure how it would work in this case though

2021-05-11T17:42:14+00:00

Mr Right

Roar Rookie


Removing an award due to athlete taking a performance enhancing substance giving them an unfair advantage over their competitors is a completely different issue. If Darius Boyd is found guilty of domestic violence next week, do you take his 2012 premiership medal off him & remove his name from the premiership team?

2021-05-11T17:09:44+00:00

Mr Right

Roar Rookie


Salary cap issues are a very different scenario to this Jarryd Hayne situation. Jarryd didn't gain an unfair advantage over his rivals due to his off field antics. Educated & experienced club administrators at Melbourne chose to cheat the regulated payment situation. When Olympians or race horses are found to have taken performance enhancing substances, their titles &/or prize money are & should be taken away from them.

2021-05-11T12:27:10+00:00

Mick Gold Coast QLD

Roar Guru


"surley at some point" I disagree - I reckon Hayne looked surley nearly all the time. ????????

2021-05-11T11:19:10+00:00

Andy F

Roar Rookie


No I think he will appeal on different grounds. I was just outlining the difference between appeal types.

2021-05-11T11:12:28+00:00

Pickett

Roar Rookie


Get a life you wombat.

2021-05-11T10:59:16+00:00

Pickett

Roar Rookie


Fully agree with the article. Preposterous notion to strip him of what he achieved in RL. I remember Gus interviewing Bennett about 5 or 10 years ago and they both acknowledged how the behavior of footy players a long time ago was much worse than what it is now. And some of the rumours you hear is mind boggling. Should their awards, premierships and records be abolished?

2021-05-11T10:42:52+00:00

Derek Murray

Roar Rookie


Couldn't agree more Joe. Many years ago I played golf at Pebble Beach. I was holidaying nearby and went to the course 3/4 mornings early hoping for a slot. It meant I had plenty of time to wander around the pro shop and the area around the 1st tee. There is a statue with a number of plaques with the names of the winners of the pro-am there. One winner was Greg Norman and his Japanese playing partner. Their names are still there but there is a big DQ next to them. Apparently, the Japanese guy owned 3 courses and played off 2/3 on two of them and 13 at the third. His crime of cheating is there for everybody to see forever. For me, the same question re statues of Churchill etc is so bleeding obvious - we need to be able to debate past behaviour to properly understand the present.

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