Gamesmanship, grace, humility and did the Eels get hosed? Talking points from NRL finals Week 2

By AJ Mithen / Expert

Another fun weekend of NRL finals saw Manly and Penrith move through to the preliminary finals to face South Sydney and Melbourne respectively. Plenty happened that needs backing over – here are your talking points from the semi-finals.

Did Parramatta get hosed?
A 7-2 penalty count, numerous missed calls, including two critical non-calls in the late moments, a questionable interchange hustle and a Panthers trainer stopping play when he wasn’t even on the field to kill an Eels attacking foray with moments left.

Add in the decisive two points of an 8-6 scoreline coming from a horribly called penalty for a high shot and it’s enough to drive Parra fans to drink. There’s plenty of moments to look at and feel hard done by with such a close result in a sensational game.

But having said that, the decisive score came just on halftime. There was plenty of game left. The Panthers had three tries struck out in the first half, at least one of which was done on pretty weak grounds. Parramatta were hanging on by their fingernails for an incredible period of the second half as Penrith battered away at them, and while the Eels had the edge in a number of the key stats, they couldn’t unlock Penrith’s league-best defence.

A wise man once told me something about sport that has stuck with me: good teams don’t lose to referees. Parramatta played a great game and had more than enough chances to win. But they didn’t. And it’s on them.

(Photo by Matt Roberts/Getty Images)

What to do about dodgy trainer stoppages?
Not for the first time this year, a Panthers trainer has stopped play at a most convenient moment, when their opponent is charging ahead and carrying all the momentum.

On Friday night the trainer stopped the game and they weren’t even on the field, which is in contravention of the NRL’s own rules. It’s likely the Penrith trainer will be suspended and the club fined, but what do the Panthers care? They got what they wanted out of the exchange and won the game. A post-game punishment is well and truly closing the barn after all the horses have taken off.

So what’s the solution? It’s a tough one. Referees are on a hiding to nothing, they’ll cop it from us whether they stop play or not, so of course they’ll stop play.

But on Saturday Mitch Kenny was behind the play and well out of the danger zone, so they probably should have played on.

Maybe there’s a way it can be done like in football, whereby the referee decides when play stops unless an opposition team puts the ball out of bounds to create a stoppage so the injured player can receive attention.

There has to be a better way than trainers being able to just yell out to stop the game and the game stops, especially when the injured player is out of harm’s way.

Diving has always been here, but it’s getting worse
Blake Ferguson’s Academy Award performance on Saturday may have won a penalty, but it sure didn’t do much for his already poor reputation. Bouncing up to remonstrate after seconds earlier being in mortal pain from a tackle was a more extreme example of staging for penalties or bunker reviews, but it is more widespread than ever.

Ferguson is one of dozens of examples throughout the finals of players flailing arms around, dramatically grabbing their head/neck/face after being tackled and staying down before getting up extra slowly to make the touch judges and bunker think there’s something to look at. It’s all very unedifying.

Again, what’s the solution? Referees can’t take the chance that a player hasn’t been hurt, or they’d cop it from all of us. Again. They’re also beholden to the laws of the game, and although the acting is there, often so is the infringement no matter how small. The diving is done to force a very technical ruling, to get a penalty to the letter of the law although there’s no injury or even discomfort.

The NRL’s arsenal to combat fakery is pretty barren – there’s a contrary conduct charge for ‘attempting to gain advantage with a referee for high contact’, and that’s about it.

Maybe the ‘injured’ player has to go off for a period, although that’s easily rorted. Could actors be fined, highlighted and shamed of a Monday?

Every team does it. Your team does it. Some do it better than others. I wouldn’t want to be refereeing Melbourne and Penrith this Saturday, because that’s going to be like managing a travelling theatre troupe.

(Photo by Matt Blyth/Getty Images)

Hey broadcasters: live action goes in the big part, replays go in the small part
There was a hell of a lot going on during Saturday night’s game as play went end to end and the pressure built and built. There were so many key moments as possession turned over and bombs were defused, and bit hits and errors were all part of a frantic 80 minutes.

So I can’t have been the only one finding it maddeningly annoying the broadcast from Channel Nine would play its action replays in the whole screen, with live action reduced to an almost illegible box on the bottom right of the screen.

This also happened on Fox Sports, because they were taking the Channel Nine feed. It’s a shocking way to direct a live sport broadcast and really takes viewers out of the moment as they try to work out what they’re looking at.

Can we just flip it? Surely the actual live footage deserves the main focus.

The other Trbojevic was great too
While Tom won man of the match and all the plaudits for Manly’s mashing of the Roosters on Friday night, the elder Trbojevic was just as instrumental in the Sea Eagles putting that early space between them and their feathered opponent.

Jake T was almost perfect in defence and bent the Roosters every time he carried the ball. His 119 metres was second for Manly forwards and his 30 tackles with only one miss tied for the most on his team. He did his best work early when the game was hot and helped his faster teammates to make hay with the constant stream of possession.

Early on in the season when Manly were getting flogged and V’landysball was in its early stages Jake Trbojevic was named as one who might have had the faster game pass him by. That call has turned out to be quite incorrect.

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Victor Radley should have been suspended for many weeks
Radley played pretty well on Friday, running over 100 metres, making a huge 56 tackles and fighting hard in a lost cause.

The 2021 season has been a frustrating year for Radley, marred by injury and suspension after being put on report an impressive five times. And he really should be spending more time on the pine to start 2022 after putting a punch on the chin of Manly’s Sean Keppie as a scrum broke late in the game.

The NRL’s apparent ‘investigation’ into Radley’s punch resulted in this statement from the match review committee:

“Based on the available angles, neither the bunker review official or match review committee could not determine if a punch was involved.”

Look at the footage and determine for yourself.

A classy exit from Trent Robinson
Manly may have smudged his team 42-6 on Friday night, but Roosters coach Trent Robinson was most gracious and humble in his post-match comments as he reflected on the year gone and paid tribute to the NRL and their ability to keep the season going.

“I’ve been critical of the NRL at different times this year, and I obviously backed that up,” he said. “It’s only right for me to say how incredible this time has been up here for us, and the way that the NRL has just dealt with our families and our players.

“The way that they have organised nights for our partners to get to know each other, they have put everything on for us to play and train, it has just been with a lot of heart. It has been incredible, the amount of heart and care.”

“Sometimes we see it as a cold brand that administers that holds the game together so fans can cheer their Roosters or Sea Eagles, but sometimes you have to stand up and applaud the NRL and say thank you for looking after us, thank you for caring for us in what could have been a really tough time.

“They needed to hear that, because they have been amazing.”

Plenty of us have (and will continue to) take shots at the NRL, but it was good to hear this coming from one of its most respected names.

There are only three games left in season 2021, Roarers. What caught your eye during the semi-final weekend?

The Crowd Says:

2021-09-23T07:11:01+00:00

mushi

Roar Guru


You're having a go at the character of multiple people in your post?

2021-09-22T23:11:06+00:00

Week 2 Failures

Guest


Parra Penrith going into ten minutes extra time would have been the just way to settle it.

2021-09-22T04:47:40+00:00

Jim

Guest


WTF. The Panthers try was off a kick. The penalty goal should never have been given and the Panthers trainers actually stopped the game 3 times while Eels were attacking. I hope the Storm smash the Panthers to oblivion.

2021-09-21T20:26:54+00:00

Dandragon

Roar Rookie


Too many to name, Souvalis…having been already banished from an alternative website, after multiple aliases for - presumably - getting all too personal & off topic with nutty conservative propaganda.

2021-09-21T11:22:59+00:00

The Final Word

Roar Rookie


Let me ask you souvalis, who were you before you became Jarl Varg? :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: Btw, I love the show and that character. :thumbup:

2021-09-21T05:17:20+00:00

Trwvor

Guest


The issue is not whether a team had opportunities to win, but rather we’re they afforded every opportunity they were entitled to have? I’m a game so close, every opportunity is important, so whether it’s an illegal tackle, or a deliberate attempt to slow down the play, each team should expect to be compensated via a penalty etc. this simply did not happen on Saturday night, one team benefited, the other didn’t. On this basis both team were not afforded the same opportunity to win. It’s that simple

2021-09-21T03:52:40+00:00

Katie

Guest


No strip points so they start next season in deficit

2021-09-21T03:43:37+00:00

Cadfael

Roar Guru


What? The '69 GF or the player liedown

2021-09-21T01:09:36+00:00

Nat

Roar Guru


In fairness, we have seen that Play On ordered a few times of late. It seems that in staying down, the bunker has to quickly determine innocence. Guilt is assumed by staying down. Based on a camera in 4 corners, the high shot or cross your fingers the sideline camera man happens to be on position to see daylight between the players. None are in as good as position as the ref but if the player feels any pressure, irrespective of the force applied, it's likely the camera will pick it up so it's applied in black and white. IMO, it's purely a litigation rule and the coaches know it.

2021-09-21T00:57:48+00:00

Forty Twenty

Roar Rookie


Unfortunately, it's an ongoing problem with refs. They will at times make a guess that a crime has been committed if an alleged victim tells him so.

2021-09-20T23:38:45+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


Sorry, I probably wasnt clear because Fergo obviously was faking it What I’m saying is, the referees and bunker’s job is to determine whether any foul play occurred, not to determine whether the player has sustained an injury or not and to make a judgement call on whether he is faking So Ferguson gets tackled and stays down holding his neck. The onfield ref doesn’t see anything. The bunker looks at it and says “nothing illegal occurred there, no penalty” - as they should have There’s not a judgement call on the injury. Players get injured all the time from play that’s not illegal But with the current rulings, the tail is wagging the dog and players are being rewarded for faking injuries… it’s untenable Your last sentence sums it up perfectly… the crusher rule was brought in to stop the tackles i described above, but the refs have broadened it to include everything…

AUTHOR

2021-09-20T23:22:27+00:00

AJ Mithen

Expert


I don't put that last knock on on him entirely either, I thought he was running a decoy for a backline move and Stone just got the pass wrong.

2021-09-20T23:09:51+00:00

The Sporacle

Roar Rookie


One of the best seasons from a forward in a long time :thumbup:

AUTHOR

2021-09-20T23:06:26+00:00

AJ Mithen

Expert


He's been a colossus hasn't he

2021-09-20T22:37:50+00:00

DP Schaefer

Roar Rookie


swap with Simms ?

2021-09-20T22:34:12+00:00

Nat

Roar Guru


How can you say that faking doesn't come ito it and then use the Fergo example? From where we sit, and by the refs initial non-action, there was nothing in it. He stays down, the bunker sees something and he gets the penalty. If not faking, feigning more pressure than what appeared to be there. That's the rule now - any pressure (Parra wingers do it better than most) so in the short time between him staying down, the bunker views the available angles and tells the ref the appropriate action. That's my point, it's poorly written under the guise of player safety that makes it nearly impossible to officiate against. Just another good intention, poorly executed and manipulated by the clubs.

2021-09-20T21:56:22+00:00

Hutcho

Roar Rookie


‘ a player is guilty of misconduct if they, “when effecting or attempting to effect a tackle makes contact with the head or neck of an opponent intentionally, recklessly or carelessly.” Where have I heard that before? High contact and player welfare are only relevant when a result won't be directly impacted? Is that the point? A bunker call on a high shot awarded the penalty that ultimately decides the margin of victory. If I'm a Parramatta fan, official or player I am wondering why my team is not afforded the same courtesy. That contact on Papali'i wasn't missed, it was ignored because neither Atkins nor Klein had the stones to make a call that could influence the result at the death.

2021-09-20T20:56:42+00:00

Kent Dorfman

Roar Rookie


maybe the NRL should do what the do in rugby - reverse the penalty. If a player falls down like he's been shot when a little finger brushes his face, milks the penalty, then jumps up fist pumping & smiling - he aint hurt, so reverse the penalty. That should stop them.

2021-09-20T20:54:04+00:00

Kent Dorfman

Roar Rookie


Daniel so is this how teams now train? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20XuPlde-Z0

2021-09-20T19:07:38+00:00

andrew

Roar Rookie


Wish we had a referee like that in the NRL. No nonsense straight talking, trouble is some players might get offended.

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