Footy Fix: Fly's Pies have officially been worked out - but that's just the start of their problems

By Tim Miller / Editor

Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

To be honest, I didn’t think I’d need to invoke a famous William Butler Yeats poem about post-WW1 Europe to describe Collingwood at any stage in my life – but it’s been that kind of start to the season for the reigning premiers.

The Pies’ first two losses for the season, both emphatic ones at the hands of GWS and Sydney, could reasonably have been excused, if not waved away entirely, as coming against two bona fide premiership contenders playing at the peak of their powers.

With the greatest of respect to St Kilda and Ross Lyon, both of whom showed a tremendous amount of resolve, gumption and skill both to wrestle control away from the Pies after half time and then to hold their nerve at the death with footy’s most infamous comeback artists on the charge home, I’m not sure you can give the same pass mark here.

This was the sort of game the Pies of last year would have ripped to shreds, or at least dictated terms throughout with only the mildest hiccups. An opposition willing to take risks but burning more than their fair share of passes by foot seems, on paper, to play right into Craig McRae’s explosive slingshot style, with the Magpies surely quicker than anyone on the counterattack across 2022 and 2023 and capable of punishing errors wherever they occurred.

That’s not the case for Collingwood circa 2024. For every mistake the Saints made, the Pies matched with one of their own, often in even costlier positions, and from some of their most iconic names.

Mitch Owens and Nick Daicos. (Photo by Michael Willson/AFL Photos via Getty Images)

Then, when the Saints lifted in a third-quarter rush that blew the game off its hinges, the Pies of old would have found a way to slow momentum, to slowly but surely wrestle the match back onto their terms so when the comeback arrived, it didn’t feel so sudden and fleeting as it did on Thursday night at the MCG.

There are countless reasons, physical, psychological and hell, even moral, that you could cling to to try and explain what’s going on at the moment, but the conclusion I’ve drawn is relatively simple: the Pies have, at last, been worked out. And what’s more: they’re playing bad, sloppy footy because of it.

The key stat, I think, is the turnover count: by anyone’s standards, but particularly Collingwood’s, 79 turnovers is an awful lot. By comparison, in 2023 they averaged 66.7 per game, fourth-lowest in the league – and it’s worth noting that the lowest team, West Coast, sits there because they could hardly lay hands on the ball TO turn it over for most of that year.

Against the Saints, the repeat, often baffling, clangers spoke of a team so desperate to try and get the match back on their terms that they abandoned all reason to try and do it. And no one summed that up better than Darcy Moore.

The Pies skipper isn’t exactly known for his skills with ball in hand, but he’s usually safe enough playing within his limitations to avoid massive, costly howlers in the back half. I counted half a dozen of those howlers against the Saints, and was even pretty generous on a few where he arrived just too late to a contest to impact – but it’s worth noting that that’s unusual in and of itself, too. Moore didn’t arrive just too late all that often in 2022 or 2023.

The above video was the most egregious of all: sure, the handball is a shocker, but what’s noticeable is just how quickly Moore looks to set it up after taking a strong intercept mark. How swiftly he wants to set up a counterattack play, so as to handball so indiscriminately without even taking a moment to check whether there was a Bradley Hill in the vicinity ready to swoop.

Even if the handball had indeed hit Lipinski, what the hell was he supposed to do with it? He’d have had the ball, in the back pocket, with three Saints closing in, a one-on-one up the line, and one free man – Scott Pendlebury, I think – loping some 65 metres away. No footballer in the country is going to be able to do anything with that in the time and space offered to him.

Add to that that, with just three minutes left on the clock until quarter time after a relatively frenetic opening, there was no reason to not go back to take the kick, soak up some time, give everyone a breather, and kick long and down the line to the advantage of the talls – heck, Mason Cox took a couple of really nice marks in the second quarter employing exactly that strategy.

Moore was far from the only culprit – Billy Frampton was actually quite imposing in defence in his first game of the season, but a couple of moments rank among the dumbest of 2024 – first him completely wiping out the much smaller Jack Higgins on the goal line when he could easily have spoiled legally, and him handballing into Darcy Moore’s face from a metre and a half away on the half-forward flank, leading to a turnover that left both the Pies’ two key defenders left upfield and Jeremy Howe one out 100 metres away with Max King for company.

The Pies have made no secret of their ‘organised chaos’ style since McRae took over, but there has always been an underlying order to it, particularly defensively. Whether in response to the troubles further afield, or personnel issues, or the simple truth that it’s a system that is hard to replicate year on year, that order is now in shambles, to the point it’s getting hard to remember just how effective it was last year.

Without the ball, things are looking rough, too. 54 tackles for the evening would have been the Pies’ equal fourth-lowest of 2023, but it’s already higher than the 51 they laid against Sydney last week.

Lazy analysis will make the case that it’s all about desperation, that the Pies’ tackle numbers are so low that they just don’t want it enough, but for me the answer is more complex.

Teams know, particularly in their defensive 50, that Collingwood bring serious heat, try to either lock the ball in or force a direct turnover with furious attack on man and ball, and eventually the weight of numbers will turn their way.

The Saints’ response was to simply keep their wingmen, and spare defender – usually Jack Sinclair – wide of contests, back themselves to win the hard ball, and then have an outlet kick staring them in the face, usually to their best users.

Sinclair finished with seven marks for the game; Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera 11; Josh Battle 7; Callum Wilkie 9. Wingmen Darcy Wilson and Ryan Byrnes? 6 and 8, respectively. All designed specifically to allow quick getaways from defensive 50, deny

98 of those 106 marks were uncontested: only three teams last season had more against the Pies in a match. Tellingly, though, one was a cooked Essendon in the last home-and-away round who managed three goals for the game; another was an out of nick Sydney mid-season who had 74 clangers and kicked atrociously all afternoon; and the other was Hawthorn in Round 21, who comprehensively blitzed them.

Because once the Saints won the ball back in their defensive 50 – and with just one tackle in their attacking zone for the day, the Pies were incapable of stopping them from doing that – they were lethal.

Seven of their goals were set up from plays similar to, if not quite as spectacular as, the one below: precise kicking, overlap run past Magpies suddenly caught out in unfamiliar space – Jeremy Howe rushing up on the attacking wing side and missing a tackle is a real ‘What is a polar bear doing in Arlington, Texas?’ moment – and a defence, Moore in particular, caught unprepared and unable to get in their usual positions to stop goals from coming.

Last year, one of those tackles sticks, or a contest is forced further afield. It means Moore has the time to get back into the dangerous spot inside 50, and not get stuck manning Tim Membrey on the half-forward flank, taking him out of the play. It means it’s him flying for an intercept mark and not Steele Sidebottom, whose half-hearted spoil right into the hot zone spoke of someone who really didn’t expect to be having to fly for a footy at all.

You can do nothing but admire the Saints, and Lyon in particular. If your team has a weakness, they will exploit it. If you are vulnerable, they will pounce and rip out your gizzards like a velociraptor in the Gobi Desert. There’s no team in the AFL less capable of giving a sucker an even break than them.

But this isn’t just any regular old team they cut apart – this is the reigning premiers. The team who, with their bold, electric play, their repeat Houdini comebacks and their complete commitment to making magic happen, tricked a significant portion of the footy world into kind of liking Collingwood for a bit.

This is officially the biggest test of McRae’s coaching career to date. At 0-3, it’s far from too late to turn the ship around – but it’s going to take a radical revamp, and the clock is officially ticking.

Things are falling apart, and as it stands right now, the centre certainly cannot hold. Darcy Moore is absolutely lacking in all conviction, and I’m pretty sure Brayden Maynard’s birth certificate reads ‘full of passionate intensity’.

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As for that blood-dimmed tide that Yeats was talking about? Well, Brisbane at the Gabba is up next. Hoo, boy.

The Crowd Says:

2024-03-22T09:02:00+00:00

Virgil

Roar Rookie


I think after two years of sustained success, a fall down the ladder is not unexpected. We have been spoilt by exceptional teams in the last few decades, but winning back to back is very difficult. Even as a supporter, I have lost the hunger that I had last year so I suspect the players are no different. You are right about Murphy. Collingwood cannot afford for Moore to go searching for the ball when they lack a defender of the calibre of Murphy to ‘mop up’ behind him. I might also add that I am less worried about Sidebottom and Pendlebury than I am about the fall off in form from Jack Crisp and Jordan DeGoey. Daicos needs time to develop in the centre and should be persisted with in light of Pendlebury’s imminent retirement.

2024-03-22T07:44:14+00:00

Chancho

Roar Rookie


It’s interesting you invoked The Second Coming, but didn’t include the preceding line: the falcon cannot hear the falconer. I think their coaching team rejig is a major cause of this slow start

2024-03-22T07:31:14+00:00

Yattuzzi

Roar Rookie


Hmm, I heard that in 2012.

2024-03-22T07:07:59+00:00

XI

Roar Guru


Or when Shrek is unwell

2024-03-22T05:28:56+00:00

Pope Paul VII

Roar Rookie


I hope that statement is "bugger".

2024-03-22T03:41:13+00:00

Steele

Roar Rookie


Collingwood were the best team last year by a small margin and probably the second best the year before by a small margin. It’s not screaming dynasty, they only need to be a little bit off. Often a losing prelim team rises and GWS and Carlton are looking ominous.

2024-03-22T03:19:03+00:00

DTM

Roar Rookie


I didn't watch much of the game last night but I'm taking much joy out of their 0-3 start. I'll be even happier if it's 0-4. However, even then, I wont write them off for 2024. They are a good side with a depth of talent and a good coach.

2024-03-22T03:15:12+00:00

DTM

Roar Rookie


I do agree the shorter pre season thing is overblown but in reality, it is more than one week. A winning GF side celebrates for a week, then recovers and goes on holidays. Their whole thought process for a month is to bask in the glory of the GF. No criticism, just how it is. A team knocked out in the prelim doesn't celebrate anything and almost immediately starts thinking and planning for next year.

2024-03-22T03:00:57+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


Yeah didn’t cost us the win but you wonder how three umpires in perfect position all ignored it

2024-03-22T02:51:07+00:00

Macca

Roar Rookie


Yeah they really need to make a statement against North

2024-03-22T02:50:16+00:00

Macca

Roar Rookie


The end comes quickly

2024-03-22T02:40:14+00:00

Rusty Brooks

Roar Rookie


Run of the green is when you have a cold.

2024-03-22T02:12:54+00:00

Voren Chalco

Roar Rookie


I think the shorter preseason is a bit overblown (GWS only had 1 more week, after all), but Geelong and Collingwood have had 2 of the oldest premiership teams and then struggled to start the following season, so maybe it's a combination of age and a shorter preseason.

2024-03-22T01:46:42+00:00

The Iron Dingo

Roar Rookie


Excuses and a$$holes

2024-03-22T01:46:24+00:00

Munro Mike

Roar Rookie


Sidebottom in particular is making errors; even when he ideally has a little bit of time/space. Pendlebury appears to be getting caught more often as well. Is that because of the shorter preseason that a GF side has compared to other sides in a season with an earlier start and only 1 and a bit practice matches? Or.....have Pendles and Sidebottom gone one year too many?? Looking back at Boomer Harvey at North......did he and Brad Scott make the right call? We will never know. I did expect at least one of this Pies part to retire on the high of a GF win.

2024-03-22T01:42:51+00:00

Munro Mike

Roar Rookie


The Elliott mark was a clear error - and the umpire if in the right position would see that the ball never went into the hands and then if the elbows are apart then it can't not hit the ground. The Higgins one is interesting because BOTH boundary umpires were unable to 100% assert that the ENTIRETY of the ball was over the line. It was close. No doubt. However the Elliott one was a far, far clearer 'error'.

2024-03-22T01:26:26+00:00

McNo

Roar Rookie


Hopefully our Blues don't suffer the same fate. Plenty of close ones

2024-03-22T01:24:13+00:00

McNo

Roar Rookie


The player was not out of bounds at all. The ball likely was, which is what the AFL tracks, so the intent of your point rings true. Even then, if it was out it was likely a case of millimetres, hardly an egregious indiscretion. It is most certainly NOT the reason the Pies lost this game or the previous two.

2024-03-22T01:23:05+00:00

Ace

Roar Rookie


I agree with you there Roger. Saints looked much fitter and faster. Saints have a depleted backline but their cohesion was too much for the pies. Lockdown Miochek and they don't have that other key fwd. Felt for Pendles. Gosh he looked well out of sorts. Slow and lacklustre. But not alone. The only plus was Frampton. And he's been a reluctant choice. Schultz needs some gym work to trim down. Pies oversight in not finding another key fwd will hurt them

2024-03-22T01:02:10+00:00

junk

Roar Rookie


Based on what I have seen, Collingwood have one (1) major problem. Fumbles.

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