The Roar's AFL expert tips and predictions: Preliminary finals

By Stirling Coates / Editor

Just four teams remain in the hunt for this year’s premiership.

Preliminary finals are tough to tip at the best of times, but these matches are a pair of Round 23 rematches that were both decided by under a kick!

Every club has an intriguing storyline behind them, as well as strong reasons to back their premiership bids and alleged fatal weaknesses that will see them fall short.

It’s sure to be a memorable weekend.

Let’s get tipping.

Stirling Coates

Melbourne, Port Adelaide

Melbourne are looking to break the longest active grand final drought and appear in their first decider since they were Essendon’s sacrificial lambs in 2000.

Standing in their way is their age-old rival in Geelong, who have taken great delight in inflicting some of the worst defeats in the Dees’ prolonged darkest era.

It would be perhaps be fitting if, therefore, Melbourne were able to exorcise their demons against the Cats in a prelim.

Recent form suggests they can do it. Simon Goodwin’s charges are riding a five game winning streak that includes the recent scalp of Geelong, and have emphatically rediscovered their minor premiership calibre touch after some mid-season wobbles.

They’ll be buoyed by the fact they have defeated the Cats in consecutive matches for the first time since 2005 – although they’d be hoping history doesn’t repeat itself. That year, the Demons’ two wins over Geelong included a late-season thriller at Kardinia Park, but they were then belted when the sides met in a final.

Chris Scott’s team has been well below their best in their two finals so far. They were completely blown away by Port Adelaide in the qualifying final and were lucky to come up against the banged-up Giants in the semi.

They look to have gone cold at the complete wrong time of the year – again – and I don’t see their season progressing any further.

Melbourne fans, you can dare to dream.

(Photo by Sarah Reed/AFL Photos via Getty Images)

I was surprised that the Western Bulldogs ended up having as much trouble as they did with Brisbane last week. It felt like the Dogs were well on top in general play, but they were continually stung on the counterattack by the plucky Lions.

The similarities between 2016 are becoming irresistible, however, and you’d be a fool to proclaim the Dogs had played their grand final already. They always seem to find a way.

They’ll take enormous confidence from their win over the Power in Adelaide earlier this season, although that game was played with Scott Lycett sitting on the sidelines.

The Bulldogs have the midfield depth to cope with getting dominated in the ruck normally, but that game saw Port forced to play Charlie Dixon in the ruck more than they’d like and it ruined their forward structure.

The last time Dixon has had ten or more hitouts in a game that Port Adelaide have won was Round 6, 2018. Bet you won’t see that fact anywhere else.

With an intact key position group, I’ll back the Power to get on top and set up an intriguing decider.

Dem Panopoulos

Melbourne, Western Bulldogs

And we’re down to four.

It’s been an up-and-down finals series for the viewer, but having a one-point contest in each of the first two weeks of finals has left a more positive imprint on us as a whole.

Melbourne and the Cats play off in a really intriguing contest, one that ought to be a much closer contest than their previous encounter was through three quarters.

We remember that the Demons pulled of an astonishing comeback in the final quarter to sneak over the line, but we cannot forget that the Cats had managed to get seven goals clear and look utterly dominant.

The Perth fixture doesn’t necessarily favour one team more, but it certainly gives the Cats the best chance of running out four quarters against the fittest team in the competition, particularly with how Isaac Smith, Sam Menegola and Mitch Duncan are playing.

Ultimately, this comes down to which team plays through the four quarters, and which team can lower their eyes the best to avoid the opposition’s interceptors. Forward 50 pressure to hurt counter-attacking ball use is vital too.

Regular readers won’t be surprised that I’m continuing to tip Melbourne, from February until they’re done.

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Port Adelaide deserve to be seen as the favoured team against a Bulldogs team looking to pull off a magical run to the grand final, now without Cody Weightman and with the skipper potentially only half-fit at best.

Team selection once again plays a big part in this contest. Both Charlie Dixon and Marcus Bontempelli played arguably their season-worst games in Round 23, while the Power may well have both a fully fit Mitch Georgiades and Orazio Fantasia.

It’s a tough spot for Lewis Young, many Bulldogs fans will be hoping that the more established ruck is available to replace the encouraging young key defender who was hopelessly outplayed by Oscar McInerney last week.

Ultimately, both teams will look to stretch the defence of their opposition, the Power hoping to capture take advantage of shaky key defenders, and the Dogs to make Aliir accountable.

The home ground advantage is lessened by just how good the Bulldogs play at Adelaide Oval, and if they’re at their best, the midfield is the best in the league.

I’ve just got a feeling about the Bulldogs. They don’t do things the easy way.

Liam Salter

Melbourne, Port Adelaide

After an enthralling finals series thus far, it’s all come down to a pair of absolutely massive games. Preliminary finals in Perth and Adelaide, featuring three teams on the road from Melbourne, all leading into a grand final in Western Australia.

If that doesn’t sum up the year…

The first of those two games is Melbourne ‘hosting’ Geelong at Perth’s Optus Stadium.

It’s been said before, but Melbourne have surpassed every expectation this year. We weren’t sure if they’d vanquish every doubt to make the finals, but they finished minor premiers.

It was far from guaranteed that they would beat the Lions a fortnight ago in their qualifying final, but it was never really in doubt.

Here lies their most significant challenge yet, however: beat Geelong and they’re through to a premiership decider.

The Cats had a fine season themselves, and even an unsurprising stumble in their qualifying final wasn’t enough to stop them bouncing back with strong semi-final win over the Giants.

But I can’t shake the feeling that the Cats, even with last weekend’s win, still are not really impressing. When the likes of Patrick Dangerfield are performing well below par, what might be excusable against a wounded GWS side is bound to be a problem against the Demons.

(Photo by Daniel Pockett/Getty Images)

As has been proven: history may be a fickle thing, but the Demons have already beaten the Cats twice this year, including their comeback in Round 23.

That simultaneously epitomised how expectation-shattering the Dees are and how unimpressive the Cats can look. Expectations are no longer a worry for this team. Melbourne look glorious at the moment, and a grand final looms.

Saturday night’s final is very, very appealing, with Port hosting the Bulldogs at the Adelaide Oval. The Doggies will be up and about after their superb win over the Lions last weekend and, on that evidence, should be hard to tip against.

But Port aren’t the Lions, and this will not be the same Dogs squad we saw last weekend: Marcus Bontempelli will be in, but Cody Weightman will be missing.

Weightman’s loss is Port’s gain, with the magnificent youngster a solo encapsulation of just how well the Dogs can perform: aggressive, ferocious, astonishingly good.

The issue is, those very same adjectives can be applied to Port, and their smashing of the Cats proved that a fortnight ago, as did their narrow win over the Dogs at this very ground the week before that.

An unbelievably hard tip this one is. The Doggies are close to replicating their miracle run in 2016, but their injuries and Port’s home advantage is swaying me towards the South Australians.

A Melbourne versus Port Adelaide premiership decider awaits. Hell yes.

Preliminary finals Stirling Dem Liam Crowd
MEL vs GEE MEL MEL MEL MEL
PA vs WB PA WB PA PA
Last week 2 2 1 1
Total 125 124 127 127

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The Crowd Says:

2021-09-10T11:44:34+00:00

.kraM

Roar Rookie


Almost

2021-09-10T11:40:43+00:00

.kraM

Roar Rookie


Lol. Try again :laughing:

2021-09-10T11:31:47+00:00

.kraM

Roar Rookie


Great to see a salty Tigers supporter with egg on their face. On ya bike :laughing:

2021-09-10T09:44:05+00:00

Yattuzzi

Roar Rookie


Thanks Peter. All on the line tonight.

2021-09-10T09:38:25+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


Good luck Yattz

2021-09-10T09:11:22+00:00

Dave

Roar Rookie


Very ordinary in my opinion the SA government wouldn’t allow the Dogs a final training session when they landed today!

2021-09-10T06:33:08+00:00

Maxy

Roar Rookie


Rockliff mackenzie.

2021-09-10T06:08:18+00:00

Jake Ramzy


Does recruiting players to only their second club make them recycled? Motlop, Dixon, Lycett weren't trash nobody wanted they were just unlucky to play for clubs where their was a superstar in their dominant position.

2021-09-10T06:07:41+00:00

Maxy

Roar Rookie


I know,you said Dixon is no threat but has the same amount of contested marks as Naughton.Dixon has 46 goals Naughton has 44.I think he would be a threat to the Bulldogs side in my opinion

2021-09-10T05:18:26+00:00

Naughty's Headband

Roar Rookie


And 50% of those are pushes in the back! The reality is that the contested mark inside 50 is almost dead - the big forwards are always competing against flooded backlines, blocks and being double teamed. It's a tough job now... I just looked it up - you won't believe this, the top 2 contested marks in the game this year are Dixon and Naughton and they're dead level on 58 a piece from 23 games each.

2021-09-10T04:14:03+00:00

berrlins

Roar Pro


So it has come out that SA has denied the Western Bulldogs permission to train in Adelaide, dunno about that it's hurt their preperations hardcore and there's no real reason for it.

2021-09-10T04:01:38+00:00

Maxy

Roar Rookie


Last I read Dixon has the most contested marks inside 50 in the league so if you don't consider that a threat that is fine,it will take 2 defenders to bring the ball to ground though,that is when either Fantasia Gray Rozee or Motlop become a threat,Georgiades is no threat as he is out with a hammy

2021-09-10T02:05:21+00:00

Naughty's Headband

Roar Rookie


But does Dixon need to be stopped? He's as slow as a wet week so players like Gardner and Wood will be able to get over the top of him and spoil. He's not the threat in Port's forward line - Gray, Fantasia and Georgiades are.

2021-09-10T01:06:15+00:00

Mango Jack

Roar Guru


A headline editor's dream, Dave. "It's raining cats and dogs in Perth this weekend..."

2021-09-10T01:04:28+00:00

Mango Jack

Roar Guru


The Cats are old, and like most seniors, they need to take a nap at some point. Half way through Q3, I predict, and the Dees will take full advantage, putting the game out of reach by 3 quarter time.

2021-09-10T01:01:48+00:00

Windrince

Roar Rookie


I'm hoping for that as well

2021-09-09T21:39:37+00:00

PeteB

Roar Rookie


Demons have been best team all year and expect them to win over an ageing faltering cats line up by 18 points. Port peaking at the right time to get over the line against dogs in a fierce contest by 12.

2021-09-09T20:59:00+00:00

Cat

Roar Guru


Same as above. A game is not one decision.

2021-09-09T20:21:20+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


I agree with the butterfly effect except when no other event can happen and that can be a wrong free kick paid in front of goal in the last 30 seconds. Player goes back , runs down the clock, kicks the goal, siren goes. There is no other ripple to come. It’s the final event and it was caused by the bad decision. Yes they may well have lost anyway without the call but they also may have won. The umpire takes the option of victory off the side by the bad call.

2021-09-09T15:50:01+00:00

Jake Ramzy


Carn the Catters, this will be a Geelong masterclass.

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