'You can't sell a secret': Biggest issues facing Australian rugby - and why it's in better shape than meets the eye

By Christy Doran / Editor

Without a Wallabies head coach going into the new year, another change in leadership at Rugby Australia, and a big-name sponsor ending its three-year association with the game, you might be forgiven for thinking that the game is dying a slow death off the back of Australia’s historic World Cup pool exit and a two-decade Bledisloe Cup drought.

But according to Andrew Blades, who has recently stepped away from the sport after three decades in the game as a player, coach and head of rugby at a leading Sydney school, all hope is not lost. Far from it.

“In many ways it’s in much better shape than people think,” Blades told The Roar.

“It’s definitely been very tough, but it’s not dead like [rugby] league is trying to portray it is.

“We’re in a hugely competitive market, but we’ve got to go back to giving kids an opportunity to experience it and play it and see it because you can’t be what you can’t see.”

As many welcomed Eddie Jones’ remarkable return to Australian rugby at the start of the year as a huge moment in righting the wrongs and getting the ship back in the right direction for the sport, Blades was one who viewed his sudden and grand homecoming with an element of scepticism.

The Wallabies after their World Cup fixture in France. (Photo by Chris Hyde/Getty Images)

It wasn’t that the World Cup-winning Wallaby didn’t think Jones could coach. Blades knew he could, having worked with him at the Brumbies and Wallabies two decades ago.

But an incident on the 2004 end-of-season spring tour left Blades questioning Jones’ motivations and whether he was suited to Australian rugby in 2023.

“I’d spent a few years with him at the Brumbies and then I’d gone overseas to coach and was doing some stuff in the background for him, just some analysis and bits and pieces,” Blades said.

“He came to me about joining him back there. I did one season with him. Then we had a bit of a disagreement at the end of that season, and I walked away. It was just a typical Eddie thing.

“We actually had a really good season, we got six out of seven. And then in our final game, we prepped pretty badly for it. Afterward, he claimed that I’d been in cahoots with Bernie [Stephen Larlham] and George [Gregan] to change the game plan on him and all this crap. I just walked away on the back of that.”

Blades took no pleasure in the Wallabies’ struggles this year with Jones back in charge.

But the experienced coach, who also assisted Robbie Deans and Ewen McKenzie during their Wallaby tenures, believes Jones didn’t get his selection, nor game-plan right.

“It was just sad to see this year how things panned out,” he said.

“Obviously things were looking good in the World Cup year. In the end, probably by his design, [the Wallabies] didn’t fire a shot.

“He didn’t take the experienced players you need for a World Cup and then tried to play a style of game that you need experienced players for, so it was a bit of a disaster in the end, unfortunately. Now, we’ve just got to get on with it, pick up the pieces and move forward.”

Andrew Blades has stepped away from rugby after three decades at the top. But the World Cup-winning Wallaby says rugby in Australia is in better shape than first meets the eye. (Photo by Bryn Lennon/Getty Images)

Blades is well placed to comment on the health of the sport.

The former front-rower was part of Australian rugby’s glory years in the 1990s and started at tight-head prop in the Wallabies’ World Cup final triumph over France at Millennium Stadium.

As well as coaching at the top alongside three Wallabies coaches, Blades, who attended Killara High School, worked at St Joseph’s College Hunters Hill, before returning to the Waratahs as their general manager for the past two years.

Reflecting on Australian rugby’s slide, Blades believes the game rested on its laurels for too long and says the fact the game has generally been shown behind a paywall hasn’t helped.

“We just got very reliant on thinking that it was just going to keep happening and it was OK to be behind a paywall of TV and it’d all tick along,” Blades said.

“What we’ve found out now is that almost 30 years down the track we’ve had a whole couple of generations of kids grow up not seeing rugby on telly and you can’t sell a secret. If kids aren’t seeing it, they’re not becoming engaged or welded onto a team.”

While Blades has been hugely encouraged by Stan’s refreshing outlook on the game, he said it was vital they “get the balance right and get the free-to-air content onto mainstream more just to get those that wider reach”.

One of the huge concerns in recent times in Australian rugby is the supposed lack of talent coming through the system.

Where once the Wallabies were the envy of the world, they have fallen to ninth on the World Rugby rankings.

The falling reputation of Super Rugby hasn’t helped, with Australia’s last triumph in the competition in 2014.

At the same time, crowds have fallen off a cliff from what they were at the start of the century too.

With the NRL and AFL expanding and drawing strong crowds across the entire nation, rugby has become the ugly duckling in the fight for eyeballs across the winter Australian sports market.

RA’s broadcast deal of $29m a year barely makes a splash in the ocean.

The fact many, including Kayln Ponga and Luke Keary, have chosen league over union hasn’t helped.

It’s left RA, at times, throwing millions at the likes of Israel Folau and Joseph Suaalii to help build coverage and create success.

Blades believes there is enough talent emerging through the system but says the priority must be about keeping it.

“You’ve only got to see the 16s team for New South Wales that’s taken the field the last couple of years and the talented players there,” he said.

“The difficult thing is having the resources to keep those players in the game.

“There’s so many opportunities for those players to go and play elsewhere in other sports or other countries.

“We’ve definitely got the talent there, it’s a matter of how we keep them. How do we ensure rugby is one of the options to stay in rather than going, ‘Well, rugby’s not actually an option for me, there’s these three other options instead.’

“Everyone says, we haven’t got enough players for five teams. We’ve definitely got enough players in the system coming through. We haven’t had the resources to keep enough players to run five competitive teams is probably the better way of saying it.

“Whereas the other sports have been better resourced and able to attract those players away from us, and then you’ve also got players obviously getting sold to overseas clubs at a very young age.”

It’s for that reason Blades bemoaned RA’s decision to continue to withhold $1.7 million from the Super Rugby franchises, having kept the revenue as a means of staying afloat throughout the Covid pandemic, wasn’t helping, particularly after the Wallabies’ World Cup budget blowout.

“It’s definitely been difficult keeping the younger players in the game with the financial constraints, but I think that’s a matter of priorities and where people prioritise the money,” Blades said.

“I mean, we just spent more on a World Cup campaign than ever – any team ever has, probably – and taken that money out of the state and youth retention programs to do that, so we’ve only got ourselves to blame for that.

“RA needs to reinstate that [$1.7m], and more.

“Those young players want the ability to train semi-full time and be part of a proper program. The big thing is that reinstatement of that funding at that level, so it takes the financial pressure off the states, and they can actually fund those things properly and better support their own base system below them rather than just scrambling to survive.

“That’s the biggest [mistake] that this last year taught us is to pour millions upon millions of dollars into a Wallaby program and starve the base.”

Australia’s Super Rugby franchises have been without $1.7 million since the Covid pandemic. (Photo by Mark Kolbe/Getty Images)

Blades said RA’s decision was also, in part, to try and get the states to come “begging” so the governing body could “take control” and implement the centralisation reform measures they want.

While Blades was adamant that everyone recognised the need for greater alignment, he said that creating greater trust between the unions and national body, as well as building the base from within the unions was just as important.

“We definitely need alignment, and everyone’s in agreement with that,” he said.

“There’s no one that’s saying that we don’t need national alignment around contracting and a better system.

“What became evident was that Queensland and the Brumbies, and everyone, didn’t trust that if they agreed to what RA wanted at that point in time that it would be run well, and now that changes have been made, everyone agrees that has to be done, it’s just a matter of getting the getting the right people at the top running it to make sure that it works in everyone’s interests.

“They’ve also got to get back and redress the strength of what they do with the states and start building again and have a better long-term vision of what they want the game to be.”

Nonetheless, Blades said NSW Rugby was doing more than it was given credit for in spreading the game’s message, saying the state union had been spending between “$4 and $6 million a year on community rugby”.

“A lot of people say they don’t do anything. You’re like, well, you’re spending $6 million across a huge state like NSW, it probably gets washed out a fair bit,” Blades said.

“But they are doing a huge job and if they get more support around that and can build up those systems, we’ll have a really strong game.”

It’s why Blades was adamant that putting more money into the unions to spend on development officers to ensure talent gets found was crucial.

“A lot of them [schoolboy talent] are wrapped up early,” Blades said.

“To be honest, at the end of the day, they are budget-related decisions at the time where there was just no money to offer those players something or even to offer them an opportunity around a well-resourced system.

“Matty Evrard and Andrew Cleverley, who run the systems at New South Wales, they are seven-day-a-week guys who just go flat chat and they help run the CHS zone trials, they run everything, but there’s not enough of them on the ground to do it.”

He added that the NSW Positive Rugby Foundation had done a “huge job” in getting bodies back on the ground in regional Australia.

“If we could double what they’ve been able to do we’d still be wanting more. That’s definitely one part of it is there’s great growth happening there regionally,” Blades said.

Max Jorgensen turned down advances from the NRL to sign with the Waratahs. (Photo by Tracey Nearmy/Getty Images)

As for the school systems, Blades said private schools were doing an “outstanding job” but admitted that more needed to be done to encourage young kids to play the game.

“The public system has struggled where I came through there, there were loads of teachers who were willing to do the extra time and the comps were strong, but the world’s changed now,” he said.

“Those systems need a lot more artificial support from externals to keep going, which requires lots of resources.

“NSW has been doing a great job, with limited resources to try and breathe life and keep those things going, but that’s where we need to direct more resources into those levels, into that club land and into the school system to build that base back up there again, which has dropped off.  

“One of the things that I do notice is that bit where the players used to watch rugby on a weekend, a lot of them are watching the league and stuff because it’s easier and it’s more accessible. We’ve got to challenge that. We’re not trying to beat league or anything, it’s just giving young people the opportunity to see the game and to play the game.

“Those two are the basic principles to experience what your sport has to offer and let them make a decision based on that. They’re the key things for me and that requires huge resources.”

He added that the “red tape” needed within schools to allow kids to play rugby had made it harder for boys and girls to pick up a ball.

Andrew Blades watches over a scrum during a Wallabies training session at Sydney Grammer School fields on August 21, 2014 in Sydney. (Photo by Matt King/Getty Images)

Despite the doom and gloom that’s engulfed the game in recent years, particularly the past six months, Blades said the fact so many travelled to France to watch the Wallabies and the anger that’s followed meant there remained a strong pulse if RA managed to get its ducks in a row.

“There’s definitely a latent support base when you see around 40,000 Aussies travel to France to watch the World Cup,” he said.

“There’s a lot of kids that love footy.  The Shute Shield has still thrived to a degree because it’s got that club rivalry, it’s got that tribalism. Plus, the enjoyment of being part of a group. It’s still there.

“Nothing’s dead. I know it’s always [described] as the worst or the best because that’s the way you get promotion these days, to get anyone to listen, but there’s a lot of positives there and it’s just grabbing all of them and getting the right people in charge.

“Once we get away from the negative rhetoric that has been around the game for the last few years, there’s a huge amount of upside.

“There’s good people involved and there’s a lot of people that want to make it work. It’s just it’s going to be a tough few months because obviously there’s nothing to take the mind off the fact that the last thing everyone remembers is our World Cup performance. That’s the difficult bit.

“It’s just now looking forward and planning and trying to get things on the right footing and getting people talking positively, enthusiastically about the game they love this. The fact that people care, they’re talking about it now, that everyone’s a bit negative on the back of the World Cup, but it’s also showing that people actually give a shit about it. They just want something positive to grab hold of.”

The Crowd Says:

2023-11-30T04:16:51+00:00

RugbyDad

Roar Rookie


Waughbachev..... I like it :laughing:

2023-11-30T02:58:25+00:00

Muglair

Roar Rookie


I heard it went into VA

2023-11-30T02:19:57+00:00

RugbyDad

Roar Rookie


Yes. The senior club has had two shots in Shute Shield, and now one in the John I Dent Cup. I am part of the junior club. We are actually a separate entity with separate committee etc. We are about to kick off a big drive to encourage players in the U6-U9 bracket to create the flow through we already have going. Our teams did very well this year, considering a lot of the obstacles we have to overcome being such and outlier in the rugby fraternity. But, we're committed to the kids and the game, so we'll get there. We're pretty stubborn to. So don't tell us it can't be done :laughing:

2023-11-30T02:11:24+00:00

cs

Roar Guru


I encapsulate it this way. Imagine you're talking to a lapsed rugby or league or foreigner non-Stan type. It's gotta to be possible to say: 'by the way mate, if you're not doing anything Friday night, check out the rugby test, it's shaping up to be an absolute corker, Do yourself a favour'. And it's true enough that you can pick the mouth-watering clashes coming up as often as not (and the likely duds). 'Mr. Waughbachev, tear down this wall!'

2023-11-30T01:56:22+00:00

RugbyDad

Roar Rookie


@CS Thanks for the response. It's always great to engage with like minded people. I'm not opposed to a proper FTA deal, for the very reasons you have outlined with respect to water cooler chat etc. I just cringe at the paywall argument because of how successful the NRL has been on a subscription platform. But, like you also pointed out, they probably need to bank a bit of a public following on a FTA provider. They may have to go through some financial pain while they build the brand on a more visible platform, but if the wallabies can sort themselves out, that would go some way of helping to build it also. I had a conversation with some one else the other day, and we discussed the idea keeping everything as it is but introduce a 'match of the round' for S.S. in Sydney and H.C. in Queensland as the lead in game to the S.R. game on a Saturday night on 9. Two matches virtually back to back! And, pubs! Get it on the TV at pubs so that you can at least provide an alternative to what is already available.

2023-11-30T01:34:57+00:00

MarlinsTragic


What happened to Clutch?

2023-11-29T09:13:52+00:00

KiwiHaydn

Roar Rookie


Great stadium at Parramatta! We went there for A League final and a Socceroos game, no rugby there (yet) :stoked:

2023-11-29T03:49:54+00:00

Midfielder

Roar Guru


Sheek You quoted Blades posting.... """"Blades believes the game rested on its laurels for too long and says the fact the game has generally been played behind a paywall hasn’t helped”""""". IMO, and a very humble one mind you, reflects a far greater demise in Australia Rugbies Admins & professional Admins and journalist..... The other never talked about is the near total blind spot of Rugby folk when Tri Nation and SR were formed compared to other codes.... SR started when league was near death with the Super League wars, Football was dying and in the last days of the NSL, the fad that Basketball was was fading, AFL was in one of its few times being poorly managed, Netball was non existent as even minor international sport, E-Games were only just starting, R-games did not exist, Cricket had no 20 / 20, and women's sport was hardly ever seen. Into this mix, came a bunch of News Journalist, who worked out a system, and the Tri Nations / Super Rugby was born... Rugby has failed to act upon or react as other codes recovered and expanded... the AFL is on a near war footing and constantly attacks anything that may threaten its dominance in the market place, league keeps recovering and getting stronger especially in Oceania [once rugbies back yard] Sheek, IMO very humble the failure to react to the changing Australian sporting environment is the biggest failure of RA admins.

2023-11-29T02:31:07+00:00

Hoy

Roar Guru


Do you really think Ponga was not courted, and shown the "opportunities in Union"? His video was seen by all and sundry around the world. I mean I think RA is pretty poorly organised, but surely they aren't so bad as to not have a crack at him? Yes, it's about numbers of available positions in the professional game. Of course it is... but it is also about preference, and generally, you go with the game you start with, know, and love. If you start playing League young, and are good, and sign some development papers with a League club, you are already in their system. They get together with managers and plot courses of development... putting the kids through GPS schools so they learn in a more professional sporting environment. It's been going on over many years now. I am just tired of the narrative that these kids were actually ever truly Rugby kids... Bulk majority were never going to play rugby after school. They cannot be called "lost" to union. They were never in it, truly.

2023-11-29T02:29:50+00:00

Olly

Roar Rookie


Yep, got to promote the more capable club teams into a professional NRC competition and start scouting talent from schools into this comp.

2023-11-29T01:46:23+00:00

Big Dave

Roar Rookie


I managed to get out to one Tahs game with a mate, a couple of subbies games and the Pumas test with my 9yo. I neglected to explain to him that Wallabies = Australia so he was cheering for the Pumas because Messi.... The Wallabies at Parra was a much better option for me personally, close to home, although it was still well after 11 before we got home. My son's highlight was getting a free chocolate bar from Cadbury after the game, can't let that sponsorship wither and die :-)

2023-11-29T00:55:23+00:00

Dionysus

Roar Rookie


It goes both ways, there are plenty pommys in the NRL Elliot Whitehead, Morgan Smithies, Ryan Sutton, Bailly Hodgeson, Jackson Hastings, Will Pryce, Tom Burgess, Domonic Young, John Bateman.

2023-11-29T00:46:02+00:00

piru

Roar Rookie


This - seemed like as soon as it was implemented, 'certain' people were white anting it

2023-11-29T00:45:11+00:00

piru

Roar Rookie


NSW chose not to have tribalism - let's not pretend otherwise

2023-11-29T00:41:44+00:00

ScottD

Roar Guru


Consistency of approach is needed. The NRC (to use just one example) is a great example of a lack of consistency. It was invented, supported, not supported, wiped out, reinvented, supported, unsupported, terminated – all in the space of 10 years. The way to do it is the same way as AFL. If you are in then be in for 20 years. Accept that in the short term it won’t work perfectly, tinker with it slightly but at least give it time to take root. Yes NSW had some issues but everywhere else it was working. The right move would have been to address the issues in NSW not to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

2023-11-29T00:34:32+00:00

cs

Roar Guru


Good luck with it then. Sympathy withdrawn.

2023-11-29T00:18:36+00:00

Nick Maguire

Roar Rookie


Thanks RD, I started a comment the other day on another thread regarding FTA/Subscription but canned it and you have basically resurrected it for me word for word! Cheers

2023-11-29T00:12:58+00:00

Rugbytrylover

Roar Rookie


“ One of my thoughts is to disband GPS, CAS, etc & divide all rugby schools, private & public, into zones. This is what they do in NZ & SA.” EXACTLY! Couldn’t agree more!

2023-11-29T00:03:49+00:00

Red Rob

Roar Rookie


Plus English league, which soaks up dozens of ex-NRL players

2023-11-28T23:02:14+00:00

Jimbob

Roar Rookie


Good article. Great points on Jones - completely flawed selections, but worse, he then employed a game plan the group was completely incapable of executing. Blades has sat across the entire value chain over his career and based on this commentary seems more stakeholder aware than anyone else right now. The ARU should bring him into the tent, ASAP.

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