AFL News: Players Association slams 'double standards' in Finlayson ban, Cats to weigh up Thomas lifeline

By The Roar / Editor

The AFL Players’ Association has come out swinging against the league for their decision to hand Port Adelaide forward a three-match suspension for using a homophobic slur.

The AFL deemed Finlayson used an “unprompted and highly offensive” remark against an unnamed Essendon player during the third quarter of the Power’s 69-point thumping of the Bombers on Friday night.

As well as missing three games, Finlayson will be required to attend a Pride In Sport training program that he will have to pay for himself.

In determining the sanction, the AFL took into account the 28-year-old apologising and owning up to his mistake the following day. The league also deemed the loss of three match payments and the requirement for Finlayson to pay his own way through the training program made a further financial penalty unnecessary.

However, the AFLPA believes the sanction is unfair, given North Melbourne coach Alastair Clarkson was merely fined $20,000 for calling two St Kilda players ‘c–ksuckers’ during a pre-season match, calling for an ‘urgent review of the AFL’s sanctioning framework’.

“We believe the AFL is consistently inconsistent and there are double standards in its approach to dealing with players compared to others on behavioural matters,” Players’ Association boss Paul Marsh said.

“This issue highlights the lack of clarity on how the AFL handles these situations, and we want this to be the catalyst for an urgent review of the sanctioning framework.

“If this type of conduct is a three-week sanction for a player, it should be for everyone involved in the game and this should be clear to everyone in the industry up-front, rather than the open-ended approach that is currently in place.”

Finlayson has apologised for the second time, and Port president David Koch said the comments were unacceptable and “do not align with what our club stands for”.

“We will now provide education for Jeremy and offer him and his family support during this time,” Koch said.

“We do not underestimate the seriousness of this matter and look forward to the AFL applying consistency to such cases in the future.”

Jeremy Finlayson. (Photo by Darrian Traynor/Getty Images)

Port’s AFLW coach Lauren Arnell and some players in the women’s squad are members of the LGBTQI community.

“We engaged our AFLW group really early in this process,” Port football boss Chris Davies told reporters on Wednesday.

“But I’m interested in (how) the natural reaction has gone towards the AFLW group. 

“We’re in a situation where there has been no openly gay player in the men’s competition. 

“This is a broader issue than just thinking about the AFLW players, although they are a significant part of our club. 

“Our AFLW players are supportive of the fact that Jeremy has owned up and he has taken responsibility for what he has done.”

Finlayson will miss the Power’s matches against Fremantle, Collingwood and St Kilda as a result of the ban.

(with AAP)

‘We believe in second chances’: ‘Open-minded’ Cats to consider Thomas lifeline

Geelong coach Chris Scott has left the door open for the Cats offering an AFL lifeline to sacked former North Melbourne utility Tarryn Thomas.

The 24-year-old Thomas has been out of the AFL system since the Kangaroos sacked him in February after he was suspended for 18 games by the AFL for threatening a woman and other misconduct.

The AFL found he had been engaging in threatening behaviour while undertaking a respect and responsibility education program.

He won’t be able to join another club until at least the end of the season.

Cats football boss Andrew Mackie was asked on SEN radio about the possibility of pursuing Thomas for next year, and indicated Geelong would at least assess him.

“I didn’t hear (Mackie’s comments) but I would imagine he’s talking about a player in a way that all of us who are spokespeople for the club would talk about any other player,” Scott said.

“We’re open-minded at the Cats.

“But in that specific instance, it’s a bit like the other issue with Alastair Clarkson and Jeremy Finlayson (making homophobic slurs to opposition players) – I’m not across those issues enough to give a strong opinion privately, much less publicly.

“But it is good policy to be open-minded.

“We believe in second chances. That doesn’t mean that you can just roll in and do whatever you want.

“But in principle, the idea of not getting to ‘no’ too quickly is a good one.”

Scott refused to draw comparisons between Thomas and Tyson Stengle, who was cut by Adelaide after several off-field incidents – including illicit drug possession and drink-driving – before turning his career around at Geelong.

“It’s really unfair to compare Tyson Stengle to Tarryn’s situation,” he said.

“And it’s a tad arrogant when football clubs – and I don’t think they mean it this way – but when you imply, ‘We’re such a good footy club that anyone can come in here and we’ll just spray them with magic dust and they’ll turn into great people’.

“Again, I consider it a bit offensive to the rest of the competition.

“But the most important thing is that we are open-minded.

“Now that’s a long, long way from ‘yes’. But it’s a start.”

At the time of his suspension, the AFL said for Thomas to return to playing at any level, he needed to undertake another behavioural-change program.

That program would need to be approved by the AFL, which would require assurances of Thomas’s progress before sanctioning any return to the sport.

(AAP)

Tarryn Thomas. (Photo by Michael Willson/AFL Photos)

Star Swan re-signs despite monster rival offer

All-Australian midfielder Errol Gulden has shown his love for Sydney, rejecting a 10-year offer from a rival AFL club to stay in the red and white until at least the end of 2028.

The 21-year-old is widely considered one of the best young players in the AFL and has no doubt been on the radar of opposition teams since his 2021 debut.

He said he had decided against accepting a 10-year deal from a rival club to stay with the Swans, where he has signed a four-year contract extension.

“I think it would have probably been a 10-year deal, and that is a very long time,” Gulden said on Fox Footy’s AFL 360 on Wednesday night, without naming the club that made the offer.

“For me to even look forward four years … I haven’t even played four years in the AFL yet, the highest level. It’s almost half my life.

“So four years was the right option for me and for the club as well as it gives them some security over the next four years and also lets me focus on my footy and not have to worry about what the future holds, while leaving a bit up to me as I will still have to perform to, hopefully, get another contract after that.

“It is up to me to have to keep performing without having 10 years locked away and, kind of, don’t worry about it.”

He said it made his head spin to be offered such a long deal.

“To put a contract in that length is a bit crazy and I did struggle to comprehend it,” Gulden said.

He said he loved being with the Swans and wanted to get the contract sorted early in the season.

“I love being at this club,” Gulden said.

“I think with these things (contract negotiations) they take a bit of time, but it was … a goal of mine to get it done early in the season and put all my attention and focus into playing every weekend and seeing where this season can take us.

“I was pretty aware of other clubs (being interested) and was in contact with my manager, but at the end of the day I love this club so much and they have done so much for me that I couldn’t see myself playing anywhere else.”

Gulden had a breakout season in 2023, earning his first All-Australian blazer, finishing fourth in the Brownlow Medal and winning the Bob Skilton Medal as the Swans’ club champion.

(AAP)

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‘They’re a mess’: King’s dire Bombers declaration as damning stats revealed

AFL analyst David King has declared Essendon ‘a mess’ in the wake of their horror Gather Round loss to Port Adelaide, saying serious changes need to be made for them to become a finals contender.

Speaking on Fox Footy’s AFL 360, the former North Melbourne great revealed a series of damning stats that suggest the Bombers’ reasonable 2-2 start to the season is a smokescreen for bigger issues.

“I think the Bombers have so much work to do, everywhere,” he said.

“They can’t move the ball… they can’t stop the opposition moving the ball. This has been the same Essendon for years, not being able to defend opposition ball movement.”

The Bombers sit 17th for percentage of defensive 50 possession chains that lead to an inside 50, having sat second in the stat in 2023; making matters worse, they rank 15th for allowing the opposition to do the same.

According to King, only accuracy and a newfound ability to score from stoppages inside 50 are saving things from getting even more dire.

“They’re being saved by accuracy and scoring from forward 50 stoppages, two things that are so flighty that you can’t bank on week to week,” he said.

“Their offensive stuff has deserted them this year and I have no idea why.”

“There’s a lot of tough conversations that need to be had at the Bombers… this is a club that is not rebuilding – so what are they? Where are they?”

Sitting 12th on the ladder, the Bombers face the Western Bulldogs on Friday night, with victory to temporarily move them up to eighth.

The Crowd Says:

2024-04-12T03:19:36+00:00

Realist

Roar Rookie


True Prez, but they will definitely be talking to his manager. He’s a very good player, and most clubs will want him regardless.

2024-04-12T02:59:52+00:00

Prez

Roar Rookie


Well depends how seriously you take violence against women. I agree with second chances but there hasn't been enough time for Thomas to prove he deserves a second chance yet. So it feels dirty to think a club would be talking to him now.

2024-04-11T22:21:18+00:00

Realist

Roar Rookie


Why is it a story that the Cats would take the time to consider bringing in Thomas? I would have thought every club would be taking a look at a very talented player albeit with some very concerning personal character issues. I would actually think the Tiger's, with their very strong indigenous culture within the club, would be a great new home for Thomas and an ideal fresh start to reinvent himself.

2024-04-11T21:50:42+00:00

nostats

Roar Rookie


maybe we need a new word .PREMORSE

2024-04-11T12:46:58+00:00

.kraM

Roar Rookie


Lol

2024-04-11T09:33:10+00:00

Birdman

Roar Rookie


Yes, more likely than not they will be better for the suspensions AND the education.

2024-04-11T08:26:54+00:00

GiddeeUp

Roar Rookie


This is the comment of the week. So true! A sad state of affairs that we find ourselves in when blatant violence takes a backseat to a word. Words have no power without a reaction. The constant over-reactions to these situations give words more and more power.

2024-04-11T08:21:00+00:00

Yattuzzi

Roar Rookie


Yes. Does young Jeremy feel any different about the subject or just has learnt to STFU? Is Tex a changed man?

2024-04-11T08:08:51+00:00

Birdman

Roar Rookie


Would you have the same view about racial vilification?

2024-04-11T07:40:09+00:00

Gyfox

Roar Rookie


Finlayson immediately realised he’d done the wrong thing & took action at the next break. That shows real remorse & sincere apology. He didn't wait until after the game or next day, like many do.

2024-04-11T07:35:23+00:00

Yattuzzi

Roar Rookie


I really don’t see the outcome people are looking for. Surely an apology and 6 Months of awareness courses would be a better result.

2024-04-11T06:18:19+00:00

Birdman

Roar Rookie


Hawthorn built a dynasty on left footers. They should go back to the future....

2024-04-11T06:08:55+00:00

Birdman

Roar Rookie


The AFLPA is justified in pointing out the inconstency between the sanctions individally imposed on Clarkson and Finlayson but claiming that the 3 weeks handed out to Finlayson was unfair is tone deaf nonsense. 3 weeks was right based on Findlayson's prompt admission and obvious contrition. What the AFL was thinking back when dealing with Clarkson is anyone's guess although $20k is a not an inconsiderable whack. The 2 weeks shouldn't have been suspended obviously.

2024-04-11T05:37:35+00:00

XI

Roar Guru


But is it actually remorse if you're getting something for it?

2024-04-11T03:32:09+00:00

Tufanooo

Roar Rookie


Yeah, I get that, but even in the real world you can take the early plea. They exist to give the offender the opportunity to demonstrate remorse. It's important for rehabilitation. If expressing remorse came with no carrot, chances are no one would really be as bothered to say sorry.

2024-04-11T02:55:12+00:00

Naughty's Headband

Roar Rookie


Utter one word and you get 3 weeks, whack a bloke in the guts you get nothing. That about sums up what the western world has come to.

2024-04-11T02:52:45+00:00

RT

Roar Rookie


Remorse I understand but applying discounts for something that is so hard to deny has not sat well with me ever since Barry Hall knocked out Brett Staker and got a discount.

2024-04-11T02:19:04+00:00

Roger of Sydney

Roar Rookie


Great about Errol, is it just me or do you have to be a left footer to play at Sydney these days.

2024-04-11T02:07:28+00:00

Ace

Roar Rookie


He is a great young footballer...but I'm probably biased as he has my given name :laughing:

2024-04-11T02:04:49+00:00

Wikipetia

Roar Rookie


He’s a good kid, Errol. I am generally an in-fan of the Swans and their production line of Academy cyborgs. But he comes from a great footy family - his mum Bron coaches the Swans’ women’s afl defence and has been a staple of Sydney footy, not just women’s footy, for forever When my daughter’s team had their presentation in 22, having gone out in straight sets in their finals, we went to the Coast Golf Club for a Friday Night Lights type of thing. The Guldens run (ran) the Bistro. Errol was washing dishes from memory. He made time to come and speak to the girls, answer a few questions. He was 20. It was grand final week - AFL grand final week. Summary: we’d have him at Richmond.

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