ACL is the true Holy Grail in Aussie football
By Australian Football, 27 Oct 2010 Australian Football is a Roar Guru
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Reading Jason Culina’s blog on TWG website, it is no surprise to see that he views this football season as the best so far.
Although he has only been here for not yet two full seasons, he states that this is by far the best HAL season to date, with most professional Australian football commentators having come to the same conclusion.
Here are some of his thoughts on how the HAL has performed this year and still with two to three of the season to go.
“Everyone has been talking about Brisbane Roar and with good reason. It is playing a very attractive brand of football this season. I must say, since I have been in the A-League the standard has improved dramatically. The football this season is much better than it was when I signed with Gold Coast United,” said Culina.
I personally agree with his observations.
There has been some very good Australian football played so far this season. We have all heard how good the historic Melbourne derby was and few would argue against that analysis, on how good that game was.
Culina goes on: “On the pitch you notice it with how fit the guys are, but the biggest difference is tactically, where you have teams playing a much smarter brand of football. Players are clearly thinking a lot more about the system of play and the way their actions effect what the team is trying to achieve.”
So, with that in mind, why has Australian football taken a quantum leap in Version 6 of the HAL 2010? Culina goes on further to explain his observations.
“The league has some great marquee players this year in Marcos Flores and Thomas Broich, but I have noticed that across the park players are getting smarter, fitter and stronger. People are suggesting the quality of imports and coaches are the main reasons for this lift in standard and while I agree to an extent, I believe the growth in standard and popularity of the league is due mainly to the natural evolution of the competition.“
So the league is getting older and wiser with everything moving forward on the playing field. But still there remains one puzzling question; why has the media dropped off instead of growing with Australian football? Because simply in my view, it has not caught the imagination of the hard-nosed anti-football mainstream media, who will go on to protect their self serving interests to no end, with their first love in the other major codes.
What then will it take to break through?
Well, we saw it almost happen when Adelaide United FC made the final of the ACL only to fall at the final hurdle. Then came of course the outrageous columns written about the HAL and Adelaide United by Rebecca Wilson fuelled by the disinterest of the national manager Pim Verbeek of the HAL with his infamous statement; playing in the HAL is no better than training in the Bundesliga club’s reserve team.
Make no mistake about it, they were damaging to the HAL and Ben Buckley should have stepped in right then and publicly reprimanded him fuelling negativity, but his response was slow and weak.
Culina explains further: “Don’t think the A-League goes unnoticed in Europe. I get plenty of phone calls and texts from guys I either played with or against asking about the A-League and sussing out what it’s all about. While I can’t give you any scoops as to who may or may not be looking to come here, it is encouraging to see that as the competition grows and improves, so does the interest overseas.”
So where to now for the HAL?
It is simple; the first Australian football club to break through and win the ACL will be making Australian football history, which will change a lot of the negativity that surrounds Australian football in the media that exists today.
The football knockers will have to acknowledge that, Australian football has certainly created a milestone and will continue to go on to greater achievements.
Perhaps, Australian football could be knocking on the door to the next great frontier of world football club supremacy with fine performances in the world club football championships, not that we would stand any chance of winning it, but we will be there competing with the greatest football clubs in the world.
I’m not sure if it is going to happen this time around with SFC or Melbourne Victory FC. But perhaps next year, it will be Adelaide United FC or the Brisbane Roar FC, to go that crucial one step further.
I certainly hope so.
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October 27th 2010 @ 7:15am
marlie chiller said | October 27th 2010 @ 7:15am | Report comment
Is Thomas Broich the Roar’s marquee player? This is news to me.
October 27th 2010 @ 7:41am
Australian Football said | October 27th 2010 @ 7:41am | Report comment
That is an interesting point. I don’t know to be honest—I assumed he was. And it seems Jason Culina thinks so .. good question? I hope someone can come to this article and tell us.
October 27th 2010 @ 7:45am
AndrewMc said | October 27th 2010 @ 7:45am | Report comment
I love the ACL. The only problem is that the A-league is so even that often the winners of one year are the wooden spooners of the next! So the team with no form ends up in playing in Asia. The first team that can have 2 solid years of form will do well!
October 27th 2010 @ 7:54am
Australian Football said | October 27th 2010 @ 7:54am | Report comment
Yeah, its been a bugbear with me as well. I wish the FFA would do something about this ridiculous situation. As we have seen in the past the teams that qualify are no where near in the same form as the team that competes in the ACL; with the exception of Adelaide United’s magnificent performance in the ACL.
October 27th 2010 @ 9:01am
Aka said | October 27th 2010 @ 9:01am | Report comment
Actually because of the delay between qualification and participation the bad form season does not occur when participating in the ACL. so year 1 top form and qualify, year 2 wooden spoon no ACL, Year 3 coming good again (hopefully) and playing ACL.
Imagine if teams played in the ACL in the season after they had qualified, they’d be playing in the ACL when in their worst form.
October 27th 2010 @ 12:24pm
Australian Football said | October 27th 2010 @ 12:24pm | Report comment
Aka—-I’m not sure if I understand your point. If SFC after winning the double and went on straight away to play in the ACL—instead of having to wait for the following year as they have to now (because of the draw) with an inferior team as it is now.
Wouldn’t you rather like to see them participate in the ACL with the team that won the double and not the revamped side as it is now..?
October 27th 2010 @ 12:35pm
Aka said | October 27th 2010 @ 12:35pm | Report comment
I’m refering to the fact that there is a full season delay in teams playing in the ACL, perhaps you aren’t.
Take Victory as an example. Won the championship in, I think, 06/07 in 07/08 they were ordinary if they went straight into the ACL (which is in the following A-league season) they would have participated in the season that they were ordinary. By having to wait until 08/09 they were playing in the ACL in the season they became champions.
I think your saying that teams should go straight into the ACL. But where in the world does that happen? e.g. in Europe it’s the following season. For SFC that would be now when they are hopelessly out of form.
October 27th 2010 @ 12:39pm
Australian Football said | October 27th 2010 @ 12:39pm | Report comment
Hmm yes I see what you mean now..
November 3rd 2010 @ 12:39pm
Brian Gibson said | November 3rd 2010 @ 12:39pm | Report comment
Hey, nice username
October 28th 2010 @ 9:04am
mahony said | October 28th 2010 @ 9:04am | Report comment
Melbourne have just had two solid years of form – but the ACL is still a long way away…..
October 27th 2010 @ 8:40am
Cpaaa said | October 27th 2010 @ 8:40am | Report comment
Good point AndrewMc. Currently in the A-League it does seem Clubs are exhausted financially at the end of their season and run out of puff for the ACL. Melbourne may be the best supported team in Australia but they fail to inspire me with Merricks managerial skill and which wont stand up in the ACL. Sydney FC cleaned out the leadership closet and signed on Nicky, who is a great player but is not a natural leader. But Lavicka and SFC may yet surprise us in the ACL.
Like I said on another thread, The ACL is wasted space on Fox. This is the elite competition of Asia which we are a part of, but it is hidden away on Fox. It should be on SBS…..so im suggesting a comprimise.
Fox can have the rights to all ACL matches that involve any Australian Football Club, but why not give SBS the rights to show any other match. Now with more Australian Footballers applying their trade with Asian Clubs, it will become more necessary to educate the Football fan living in Australia about Asia.
The ACL is the Holy Grail for Australian Football and the HAL Grandfinal is simply a sudden death game to something Bigger.
Before Australias inclusion into Asia I didnt know who Urawa Reds were of Japan.
now we have an aussie ” Sasa the Ogre” playing in the ACL Final with a Korean Club, Seongnam Ilhwa.
In time I will know more about Asian Football and the Asian Leagues as they will know more about us.
But this starts with access to live games and with professional opinions and analysis after every match.
October 27th 2010 @ 8:51am
Australian Football said | October 27th 2010 @ 8:51am | Report comment
Good post Cpaaa—I have long thought that the ACL is not getting the attention from FOX it rightly deserves. I love to see it exclusively on SBS where it will grow.
October 27th 2010 @ 9:00am
Lindommer said | October 27th 2010 @ 9:00am | Report comment
I though the Holy Grail of Aussie football was always the last Saturday in September. Been that way for decades.
October 27th 2010 @ 9:10am
Australian Football said | October 27th 2010 @ 9:10am | Report comment
Not anymore—we have moved on to bigger and greater things. We need to educate and accept the inevitable..
October 27th 2010 @ 9:13am
Tortion said | October 27th 2010 @ 9:13am | Report comment
Haha thank you comrade.
October 27th 2010 @ 9:23am
BigAl said | October 27th 2010 @ 9:23am | Report comment
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. . . and when did this actually happen AF ?
October 27th 2010 @ 9:40am
Al said | October 27th 2010 @ 9:40am | Report comment
I always thought it was the first Sunday in October
October 27th 2010 @ 12:30pm
Australian Football said | October 27th 2010 @ 12:30pm | Report comment
Al—-So did I…
October 27th 2010 @ 10:06am
Australian Football said | October 27th 2010 @ 10:06am | Report comment
BigAl—when the FFA were admitted into Asia.. Didn’t you know that the Asian Confederation is by far bigger, much, much, by far bigger, than the little Aussie Rules competition you follow.. Surely you are not going to deny that simple little fact.?
October 27th 2010 @ 9:58am
ptovey01 said | October 27th 2010 @ 9:58am | Report comment
I see this denigrating into a code war. Back to topic boys and girls.
October 27th 2010 @ 10:07am
BigAl said | October 27th 2010 @ 10:07am | Report comment
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Heyyyy !!! come on now ! – this is AF’s article and we all know he likes nothing more than a good old code wars argey bargey!
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also gets hit comments count up !
October 27th 2010 @ 10:18am
Australian Football said | October 27th 2010 @ 10:18am | Report comment
Quite frankly BigAl, I find your comments a bit tedious. I think the last good serious comment you made to me of any worth was you were working on an article (for 2 years now) but you still couldn’t find the summit button to press..
October 27th 2010 @ 10:56am
BigAl said | October 27th 2010 @ 10:56am | Report comment
Oh well !, fair enough . . . I know the feeling.
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BTW . . . I stil can’t ‘…find the summit button to press’ ?
October 27th 2010 @ 5:47pm
TCunbeliever said | October 27th 2010 @ 5:47pm | Report comment
You know what, AF, you do have very few comments yourself that are based in reality and observable evidence.. Just because the 4th (if you’re lucky) most popular sport in Australia has become part of the Asian Confederation does not make any difference to significant events on the local sporting landscape.
Do you know how many people will think.. “Ooh, the Victory have a chance of playing in the ACL if they win. That makes them way more important than any League or Australian Football team, I’m going to follow the A-League now!” Bugger all will. The only people who care are ones who already are fans of an A-League club.
I like Association Football as much as the next guy, and I think most Australians are perfectly capable of supporting and watching teams in different codes. Why is it always ‘us against them’ with you?
October 27th 2010 @ 6:29pm
Australian Football said | October 27th 2010 @ 6:29pm | Report comment
TC—-you are on the Football Tab “Us against Them” you say hah lol… Don’t come and read what I write, if the prospect offends you so. This ACL concept is a work in progress we’re not asking Aussie Rules die hearts to swap codes. But you are fearful of what I have pointed out could happen in the future. You better pray hard that Australian Football does not make the breakthroughs I have outlined, because your worst fears will be realised..
Australian Football has over 1m who are either registered or playing on a social basis. Not counting the football folk like you or me who have played or are just interested as spectators. And with comments like this (below) by an ex Nth Melbourne player once right hand man to Demetriou—you may have a lot to worry about. I on the other hand have nothing to lose or fear.. What ever happens in the future I see it as a bonus..
“We have a very competitive landscape, we know we compete with other codes and this is a great opportunity for football to dominate the landscape over the next 12 years.” BB
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/2010-world-cup/news/1028873/world-cup-'will-turbo-charge-game‘
October 27th 2010 @ 8:09pm
TCunbeliever said | October 27th 2010 @ 8:09pm | Report comment
AF..
Yeah “us against them” is how you come across. Most people here just want the HAL to be a strong, healthy, well-supported league, with stable clubs and genuinely good players and competitions. I would also like it to be on FTAtv. But you want it to become the dominant sport here and seem to have a vendetta against the AFL and NRL.
I am going to read and comment on Association Football articles because I want to learn more about the game, and there’s precious few decent articles available in the regular media.
I’m not afraid of Association Football growing in popularity.. It’d be great if the AFL and NRL dominated the media half the year and the A-League/ACL and Cricket dominated the other half. I might come across as negative when I’m talking about the current situation of the popularity of Association Football, because I honestly don’t know where the people are going to come from to boost the A-leagues figures, and if they are out there why haven’t they come forward already? You just assume that it’s all going to happen.. And I disagree with that position because nothing I’ve read on the subject indicates that it’s a possibility.
And I have no idea what Ben Buckley is on about.. Of course all football codes are competing with each other – that’s no news to anybody.. Right now it’s not a very even competition is all. As for ‘turbo-charging’ the game, well the same can be said by the AFL.. They can state that having a game a week in both QLD and NSW/ACT, as well as 2 rivalry games between Brisbane FC and Gold Coast FC, GWS FC and Sydney FC, and GC FC and GWS FC will ‘turbo charge’ interest in that code in those areas. It’s all just spin, buddy.. He doesn’t know exactly what is going to happen, and neither do you or me.
October 27th 2010 @ 8:22pm
Australian Football said | October 27th 2010 @ 8:22pm | Report comment
You should explain that to Kurt and Co. I think he is the mirror opposite then—btw I grew up with the NRL and my team is the Rabbitohs (at arms length) since the demise of Newtown Blue Bags however, that’s another story. My profile does not show that of course because I am a committed Football Supporter; but that does not mean I have stopped watching the NRL from time to time..
October 27th 2010 @ 8:48pm
TCunbeliever said | October 27th 2010 @ 8:48pm | Report comment
Sorry, I’m not exactly sure who you mean by Kurt & Co..
My thing is that in a city like Sydney with a pop of 4.5 million, if all 3 codes played over one weekend, hypothetically, there’d be 30k at the SCG (afl), 40-60,000 watching 3-4 League games and let’s say 20k (assuming Newcastle & Sydney FCs both play at home or there were 2 Sydney A-League clubs, or it was a really big A-League game, whaterver).. That’s just 110,000 people watching at the venues, max.. With a city that big there’s enough people there potentially for every stadium to be filled for those games without any of the codes ‘converting’ followers of another code. All they have to do is market themselves better, get more people interested.. And it can be done without ‘code wars’ either.. Especially because not all of those codes play on the same weekends.
I haven’t been exposed to much NRL being a Melbourne guy but my GF goes to a lot of Storm matches, and she wants me to go along (though I have a weird idea that I’d rather support the Rabbitohs than Storm) and at the same time I”ve been bringing her to some AFL matches (I’m Essendon but she likes the Bulldogs for some reason).
October 27th 2010 @ 11:59am
Cpaaa said | October 27th 2010 @ 11:59am | Report comment
I think Lindo was perhaps referring to Aussie Rules. Which I must say is wonderful to see the Australian Aussie Rules International side has finally accepted that a round ball is better ……and attracts a much larger audience.
I was surprised to see a rectangular pitch and football goals with nets. They are finally getting it AF.
Soon they will stop using their hands and Darth Demetriou will apologize to all Football fans for siding with the Dark Side……..so it has begun.
October 27th 2010 @ 8:17pm
Midfielder said | October 27th 2010 @ 8:17pm | Report comment
Cpaaa
11 players….round ball… rectangle field… football posts… goalkeeper…. penalty area … no hard tackling …
They are almost there…
October 28th 2010 @ 9:09am
mahony said | October 28th 2010 @ 9:09am | Report comment
So close, but yet so far MF. These people have been running from the world game for over 100 years. At the current rate they should be well and truely up their own asses by 2022……
October 27th 2010 @ 10:02am
Titus said | October 27th 2010 @ 10:02am | Report comment
Good article AF
As a Sydney fan I am really excited about being in Asia this year. I think we can make a real go of it if we promote players like Antonis, Danning and Petratos.
Culinas points are interesting. The a-league is becoming a quality competition and people around the world are noticing, truly exciting times!
October 27th 2010 @ 10:11am
Australian Football said | October 27th 2010 @ 10:11am | Report comment
Titus—-Yep good luck to SFC, I hope they will start from the Glory match to create some real noise in the ACL that would be a mighty effort if they can finish well this season and go into the ACL with some real form..
October 27th 2010 @ 10:57am
Timmypig said | October 27th 2010 @ 10:57am | Report comment
AF, re this part of your article:
“It is simple; the first Australian football club to break through and win the ACL will be making Australian football history, which will change a lot of the negativity that surrounds Australian football in the media that exists today.
The football knockers will have to acknowledge that, Australian football has certainly created a milestone and will continue to go on to greater achievements.”
Are you sure? I’d have thought that most people who are ignorant of football, but who mightn’t necessarily be hostile to football, are probably the same people who don’t go to HAL matches, and who don’t even know there IS such a thing as ACL and who probably don’t care, but who will happily watch EPL matches or WC or Socceroo friendlies. They can probably name half a dozen stars in European football, and know which HAL teams are which, and even some players in HAL, but would be stumped if asked to list even a single club in any Asian league.
If ACL success is to be meaningful to prospective football fans (not current HAL fans) then Asian football has to have some significance to the average mug punter, and I just don’t think it has.
October 27th 2010 @ 11:04am
Rellum said | October 27th 2010 @ 11:04am | Report comment
If the ACL winners regularly make it to the Club World Cup Final, beating the South American or even the European representative along the way, then people will start to take notice. This is not as far off as some would think.
October 27th 2010 @ 12:08pm
Australian Football said | October 27th 2010 @ 12:08pm | Report comment
Timmypig—-yes I agree with your point that, not many non football lovers have heard of the ACL or care at this point in time. Nevertheless, if you are a sports journalist who doesn’t know of the ACL or the FIFA World Club Football Championships then you are indeed a very poor sports journalist… This is big stuff and the prize money is huge and will blow you away if you read the link I have provided.
Of course there is an educational process, which is attached to the whole concept for Australian Sport Supporters and Sport lovers alike to sit up and take notice. We saw glimpses of that with the City of Adelaide all caught up with ACL Football fever. This is not going to happen overnight, but when success comes to Australian Football Teams regularly competing and winning in these tournaments everyone will start to take notice.
The Australian National Men’s Football Team (Socceroos) had to wait a long time for that to happen and now look where they are in the psyche of Australian Sports lovers. On top of that, I would say they are the most recognisable Australian sport brand outside of Australia. I should think with time, and who knows how much time, Australian Football Clubs will be blessed with some of that same recognition in Australia and around the world.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_Club_World_Cup
October 27th 2010 @ 12:23pm
dasilva said | October 27th 2010 @ 12:23pm | Report comment
If you were in Adelaide during Adelaide’s run to the final then you would understand the impact of a successful ACL campaign would have to the game. The current strength of the Adelaide united team and their support had its roots back in the ACL campaign and was part of the reason why Adelaide still had decent crowds even when the team finish dead last in the A-league. Also the media got behind the Adelaide united campaign. Even Graham Cornes (who was a former Adelaide Crows Coach) said if Adelaide won the ACL final than it would have been one of the greatest achievement in the history of South Australian sport.
The average punter doesn’t care about ACL. That is true. However if we see Melbourne Victory or Sydney FC in the semi finals of the Asian Champions league or even the final then that would change.
October 27th 2010 @ 12:27pm
Australian Football said | October 27th 2010 @ 12:27pm | Report comment
Das—precisely..!!!!!
October 27th 2010 @ 12:14pm
Cpaaa said | October 27th 2010 @ 12:14pm | Report comment
True but if Seongnam Ilhwa go through to the world club challenge, will the Ogre get any media attention as to say a Gasnier or Sonny Bill if they were in the same position with their sports??
I hope so but I still dont have enough faith in our commercial media groups to do so. Ogre played for Brisbane and more recently Adelaide so I hope these two cities do a decent job, if the Korean Club advance.
October 27th 2010 @ 12:36pm
Australian Football said | October 27th 2010 @ 12:36pm | Report comment
Cpaaa—-if Ogre gets his historic ACL medal it will be big news on all of the Football internet sites. We will make sure of that at least.
October 27th 2010 @ 1:50pm
Ben of Phnom Penh said | October 27th 2010 @ 1:50pm | Report comment
As Das said, Adelaide are a good example as to how the ACL can galvanise a club. For many Reds supporters the aim of the season isn’t he toilet seat, but the chance to once again have a crack at the likes of Bunyodkor and Pohang, and perhaps get the chance to tussle with an Al Ittihad or a Sepahan.
The ACL is, quite frankly, fun.
October 27th 2010 @ 1:59pm
Australian Football said | October 27th 2010 @ 1:59pm | Report comment
Ben—-the greater picture of coarse is; also to advance to the FIFA World Club Cup Championships to face the likes of Barcelona in a group stage—-wouldn’t that be something special..
October 27th 2010 @ 2:37pm
Ben of Phnom Penh said | October 27th 2010 @ 2:37pm | Report comment
Or defeating the African champions Al Ahly 1-0.
Oh hang on…..
October 27th 2010 @ 4:00pm
AA said | October 27th 2010 @ 4:00pm | Report comment
…and to think that some people on 442 recently stated that they would be prepared to give up Asian Champions League football to keep Wellington in the A-League.
What a joke.
October 27th 2010 @ 4:53pm
Australian Football said | October 27th 2010 @ 4:53pm | Report comment
AA—I’m curious; who are these people you say, do you have a link—-the Nix perhaps, that I would understand.?
October 27th 2010 @ 5:21pm
AA said | October 27th 2010 @ 5:21pm | Report comment
The topic in question starts here, check some of the comments after the original article is posted.
http://au.fourfourtwo.com/forums/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=43128
October 27th 2010 @ 6:43pm
Australian Football said | October 27th 2010 @ 6:43pm | Report comment
“The Phoenix are replaceable. Top level continental football is not.”
AA—-do you realise that most to all the positive comments in favour of your argument are Nix supporters and under the current rules of the Asian Confederation the Nix are not allowed to compete in the ACL because NZ are a member of Oceania Confederation not Asia. I scanned through most of the comments and it is apparent that the Nix supporters are the ones making those remarks and the Australian Club’s supporters who are saying the the opposite. As I said it is understandable—now check out a few AU FC comments made here that is where the real story lies.