England deserve their Ashes success
By Brett McKay, 29 Dec 2010 Brett McKay is a Roar Expert
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Well, it’s been a sorry few days in Melbourne for Australian fans – though for lovers of cricket in general, it’s been hard not to enjoy what England have served up in this Boxing Day Test. Since the drop of the coin on Sunday morning, anything and everything has gone right for Andrew Strauss.
Right call, right replacement bowler, right use of the conditions, and right response with the bat. All just on the first day.
Come the second day, it was Brisbane and/or Adelaide revisited as the English top order just batted and batted and batted. A lead of 346 at the end of the second day is a pretty handy couple of days of cricket.
On the third morning though, the Australians jumped out of the blocks first. Peter Siddle removed Matt Prior, the man spared by video review of ‘that no-ball’ from Mitch Johnson, in the sixth over of the day, some 80 runs after what turned out to be an expensive moment for Ricky Ponting.
Prior’s dismissal triggered something of a collapse, and despite some enterprise from Graeme Swann, England lost 5/54 to be all out 513. Jonathan Trott would finish 168 not out and now runs with an Alistair Cook-esque series average.
But in the scheme of things, this was just a mere hiccup.
Australia would need a mammoth 416 just to make England bat again, and after 98 all out midway through Boxing Day, that would seem a long way away.
Shane Watson and Phillip Hughes started in ominous fashion, and were still ticking along at better than five-an-over into the eleventh. “At this rate, they should lead by 350 tomorrow night,” my well-meaning but somewhat optimistic colleague, Vinay Verma, uttered at the time.
If only. If this Test is even close to still going at stumps tonight, I will be both shocked and stunned. As would England, I’d wager.
However, the columnist’s curse proved than it can also work at the subconscious level, for just as I was thinking that Hughes was looking more stable and solid than at any other point in his return innings – and even daring not to speak this observation aloud – he was needlessly run out by yet another shocking Shane Watson call.
Later in the post-match, Watson would admit, even if only begrudgingly so, that Hughes’ run out “probably was my fault, yeah” – and his calling is surely getting to the point of becoming an issue for the side.
Just as Simon Katich did in Adelaide, Hughes found himself called through by Watson after both batsmen had stuttered their run, and was eventually out of his ground by some distance. England ‘keeper Prior undoubtedly contributed to the distance of the run out by cleverly taking the ball in front of the stumps, but nevertheless, there was always doubt about the run.
And whenever that is the case, Hughes simply must learn to say ‘no’, regardless of how senior or on whatever score his partner is.
Watson further added to an already frustrating time for the Australian faithful in the super-impressive third day crowd by getting out in the fifties yet again, this time thrusting only a pad forward to a middle-stump-bound Tim Bresnan in-swinger.
Sadly, that wasn’t the last piece of poor judgement in this dismissal; for reasons I can neither fathom nor even guess, Watson referred the decision upstairs for a second opinion. Once discovered that Bresnan had neither no-balled nor miraculously morphed into a left-armer, Watson was again the subject of a skyward finger.
It quickly emerged in various circles that Watson’s fifties-to-centuries conversion is now at a touch over 11 per cent, which is generally handy for a batting all-rounder, but perhaps not so much when said batting all-rounder features at the top of the order.
Bresnan had his wind up by this stage, and after a determined period from the Australian captain, the Yorkshireman enticed Ponting to spar outside off to a ball Bresnan later described as “nothing special,” only to see a massive inside edge redirect it stumpwards.
Ponting was a dejected man as he trudged off the MCG, and people in these parts would be right to ask if we’ve seen the last of the best batsman of this generation on this hallowed ground. I quite seriously wonder if we’ll now see an announcement made in these next few days prior to Sydney.
Mike Hussey proved he is human again by sending an ambitious drive to Ian Bell in the covers, and with him gone, the Barmy Army lifted in perfect relativity to the deflating Australian fans.
At this time, I suggested to my modest Twitter crowd, “If Clarke has any aspirations for the top job, and likewise Smith as a Test No.6, they simply both MUST last to stumps. Just must.”
Sadly, neither could, and with them gone, so are all of Australia’s faint hopes of avoiding a second innings-defeat in this Ashes series.
Just as Mike Gatting’s team did in 1986, Andrew Strauss’ men will now also secure the Ashes in Melbourne. While Gatting’s lot did it inside three days, only a miracle will prevent Strauss’ team doing it well inside four.
And fair play to them.
After the small stumble in Perth, England’s sheer dominance in this series has once again returned to the fore. Simply put, they have been the better team in almost all the key moments in this series.
For Australia, the post-mortems will begin well before the body is pronounced dead. The obituaries may not even wait for Sydney.
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December 29th 2010 @ 3:54am
peter davis said | December 29th 2010 @ 3:54am | Report comment
Hi guys I have to say your team seems to be lacking in fitness and effort, easy to say but quite a few of your players are top heavy and it all seems to be to much effort
December 29th 2010 @ 6:24am
Kersi Meher-Homji said | December 29th 2010 @ 6:24am | Report comment
Why is the Roar website so obsessed with the Ashes Test on the MCG? We know the Ashes are lost yet one or two match reports of the dead Test every morning. Most of us have seen the Aussie humiliation on TV with hundred replays of every four, wicket, missed chance…
But no reporting of a magnificently even Test going on simultaneously in Durban between the two top-ranked countries. India leading by 74 runs on the first innings have set South Africa 303 to win. SAfrica are 3-111 at stumps on day-3. Anything can happen. Engrossing!
December 29th 2010 @ 6:55am
Brett McKay said | December 29th 2010 @ 6:55am | Report comment
Kersi, when there’s two Roar writers in the press contingent at a Test, dead or alive, it’s natural that both would have pieces on the same game, I suppose. And personally, I’ve not seen a ball of the current South Africa-India Test, so I can’t rightly write about it.
December 29th 2010 @ 6:56am
Lolly said | December 29th 2010 @ 6:56am | Report comment
It’s a cracker of a match. Amla’s wicket felt like a huge take for India. Oh, that we had someone who could pull blinders out like Laxman.
December 29th 2010 @ 7:46am
Fisher Price said | December 29th 2010 @ 7:46am | Report comment
Watson doesn’t seem to have the maturity to simply walk off when dismissed. He just cannot resist the referral system.
His body language tends to suggest he’ll take the stumps and ball with him if given out.
PS: This was meant to be in response to Brett and Jammy.
December 29th 2010 @ 9:20am
Brett McKay said | December 29th 2010 @ 9:20am | Report comment
Fisher in Watson’s defence, and in hindsight I probably should have mentioned this in the column, Watson did only refer the LBW after a lengthy discussion with Ponting, which will undoubtedly thrill you even more…
December 29th 2010 @ 9:39am
Fisher Price said | December 29th 2010 @ 9:39am | Report comment
I suspect Punter only begrudgingly took the third umpire’s call.
December 29th 2010 @ 9:42am
Brett McKay said | December 29th 2010 @ 9:42am | Report comment
come on now Fisher, even you would know that that wasn’t the case in this particular situation. Watson was plumb from any point on the ground…
December 29th 2010 @ 10:06am
Fisher Price said | December 29th 2010 @ 10:06am | Report comment
Yes, even me who doesn’t rate Ponting.
I was being partly facetious.
Watson was indeed plumb.
Punter should have told him so. But then, as we saw with the Aleem Dar incident – his mind’s all over the place.
December 29th 2010 @ 10:19am
Brett McKay said | December 29th 2010 @ 10:19am | Report comment
yeah well, as I said, I really can’t work out what they were looking for on the referral…
December 29th 2010 @ 8:15am
LeftArmSpinner said | December 29th 2010 @ 8:15am | Report comment
kersi, i would happily watch it but i dont have foxtel……………the ashes test is all i have to go on with. having said that, i much prefer the ABC Radio coverage than the channel 9 version. skull is in good form and the entertainment value exceeds all other sports coverage……….Well done ABC……….
December 29th 2010 @ 8:53am
Fisher Price said | December 29th 2010 @ 8:53am | Report comment
ABC by a mile. They say it how it is.
December 29th 2010 @ 9:34am
Rhys said | December 29th 2010 @ 9:34am | Report comment
I agree, ABC coverage is far superior. Only problem being is that the radio commentary never synchs up with 9′s television coverage – always seems to be a few seconds delay on the pictures.
December 29th 2010 @ 9:37am
Fisher Price said | December 29th 2010 @ 9:37am | Report comment
The delay seems to have increased this summer. I first noticed it during the 2009 series.
December 29th 2010 @ 9:01pm
Lolly said | December 29th 2010 @ 9:01pm | Report comment
In England, I can’t get the ABC coverage even online. I can get state games though.
Luckily, the TMS crew in England are reasonably good as long as Agnew isn’t commentating. He’s a good interviewer and presenter but his analysis skills are poor, he never really paints a picture for you. I’m still a fan of Boycs though, his analysis skils (when he isn’t being nasty) are excellent.
December 29th 2010 @ 2:34pm
Chaos said | December 29th 2010 @ 2:34pm | Report comment
True Kersi, its one versus two in the world and much better cricket. However unless you have Foxtel, one can’t watch the game. Even if you do have foxtel, I’m sure most of our ‘Mrs’ wouldn’t put up with more cricket on the box. Unless they did very well from Santa.
December 29th 2010 @ 6:38am
Jammy said | December 29th 2010 @ 6:38am | Report comment
England’s batting and bowling is not the only thing going well for them. For the first time in my Ashes watching memory, 25 years, England has completely outfielded Australia. England’s slip catching has been first class, their wicketkeeper faultless and their ground fielding swift and effective. Australia on the other hand seem to be carrying fielding camels – Hilfenhous, Harris, Hughes, or injured crocs- Clarke, Ponting, Watson. Haddin as a gloveman is a worry, not that he has dropped catches, but his skills and judgement don’t set a great tone for the rest of the fielding unit. Perhaps he could give up the gloves and play as a specialist batsmen at 6 and let Tim Paine take the gloves as he is not only a proficient keeper and batsmen but an excellent prospect for the captaincy.
As for Watson, he is a selfish cricketer, as can be seen by his running between wickets and wasteful use of the referral system.
December 29th 2010 @ 6:52am
Brett McKay said | December 29th 2010 @ 6:52am | Report comment
“their wicketkeeper faultless” – not completely faultless, Jammy. Some of Prior’s appeals and suggestions for referral have been highly questionable, to the point that Strauss two or three times last night walked away from referral discussions when it became apparent that ‘keeper and bowler had conflicting views. Just a small point, but worth making.
Otherwise, I completely agree with you. After Adelaide, Ponting admitted that Australia had been “outbatted, outbowled and outfielded” and he could easily trot that same line out today. There’s no two ways about it..
December 29th 2010 @ 8:07am
Jammy said | December 29th 2010 @ 8:07am | Report comment
True Brett. I got a little carried away with calling Prior’s performance faultless. The way both keepers are going with referrals Strauss and Ponting should just ignore their respective opinions completely.
December 29th 2010 @ 8:42am
Rabbitz said | December 29th 2010 @ 8:42am | Report comment
I doubt you will see Ponting say anything similar. I doubt he will front the media. It will be left to Hussey or Clarke to cop the pasting.
December 29th 2010 @ 9:24am
Brett McKay said | December 29th 2010 @ 9:24am | Report comment
He’ll be there Rabz. He was there after Adelaide, as he has been at the conclusion of every Test. He doesn’t shirk this particular duty. Clarke, by the way, has made only one post-play appearance this series, on Day 1 here…
December 29th 2010 @ 6:59am
Lolly said | December 29th 2010 @ 6:59am | Report comment
Prior missed a stumping today. Not that it mattered as Clarke wasn’t hungry for runs anyway.
I think Watson’s judgement and calling are poor when it comes to runs. I don’t believe that it is the other players’ fault anywhere near as much as it is Watson’s when run-outs happen.
December 29th 2010 @ 9:34am
Rugby Fan said | December 29th 2010 @ 9:34am | Report comment
Mike Atherton had a good analysis of Watson after his involvement in the first run out in this series. He thinks Watson mainly plays shots for the boundary. If you tie up his scoring rate, he starts thinking more about singles but is a poor judge of a run. Combine his impatience to keep the score ticking along with that deficiency and run outs are the result.
Specifically, it seems that he knows when he can make his ground but not whether his partner has the same chance. Unless his team mate sends him back quickly, then he’ll always be more likely to lose his wicket. Stats seem to suggest that Watson is usually the one left on the pitch after causing a run out.
December 29th 2010 @ 7:21am
Terry Kidd said | December 29th 2010 @ 7:21am | Report comment
England has pretty much, except for a hiccup or two, totally outplayed the Aussies throughout the series and will rightfully retain the Ashes. IMO it is time for Oz cricket to bite the bullit and begin a total re-build with youngsters learning their test cricket while in the team. My squad for Sydney and into the next year or two would be, in batting order ….
Katich (to give stability and guidance to the top order)
Maddisson
Khawaja
Hussey
Clarke (c)
Watson
Haddin
Smith
Hauritz or O’Keefe
Siddle
Bollinger
Copeland
Hazlewood
Let’s give this squad some time together …. include other bowlers like George, B Johnson, Starc and Beer, plus some batsmen like Hughes and a keeper like Paine …. and give them some intensive coaching from S Waugh, G McGrath and S Warne, not just in skills, but playing smart and being a tough hard bastard about your cricket …. overall let’s have faith in them and give ‘em a go.
December 29th 2010 @ 11:48am
Long On said | December 29th 2010 @ 11:48am | Report comment
You sure about Siddle and Hussey? If they weren’t in the team we could play all the matches at the SCG and save money on airfares and accomodation.
December 29th 2010 @ 2:41pm
Chaos said | December 29th 2010 @ 2:41pm | Report comment
Terry are your selections are based on the fact you live in NSW and only get to see their young cricketers alot?
December 29th 2010 @ 3:20pm
Terry Kidd said | December 29th 2010 @ 3:20pm | Report comment
Chaos, I live in Qld and previous to that WA so I’m no one eyed NSW supporter ….. I just keep an eye on whom is performing best at the next level and who seems to have the skills and temperament.
The other side of the coin is that NSW has the strongest grade competition and therefore produces most of the best young cricketers.
December 29th 2010 @ 6:00pm
Chaos said | December 29th 2010 @ 6:00pm | Report comment
Fair call. NSW may also lose less of their talent to other codes then VIC/SA/WA does to AFL.
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I live in VIC and they are really excited about Alex Keath. He would have been a top 20 afl pick if he didn’t pick cricket.
I believe WA are excited about Mitch Marsh. Who faced a similar choice.
It good to see cricket win some talent back as previously the talent has gone the way of the pigskin. EG. SA was excited about talent like Shannon Hurn who picked football and now plays for West Coast.
December 29th 2010 @ 6:48pm
TJ said | December 29th 2010 @ 6:48pm | Report comment
This is one of the major problems with Australian cricket – the national media focus on NSW cricket. It’s not the selectors fault, nor the bloggers and other cricket followers, who seem to select or suggest NSW-centric teams or inclusions. It is just the way it is. Sydney is the media capital of Australia, and the natural focus will be on the local state team. The media capital needs to be somewhere, and if it was in VIC then the journalists would live in Melbourne and focus on the VIC team. It is natural, but needs to be addressed. Two examples of this includes (1) Katich moving to NSW because he believed it would place himself in greater focus for re-selection, and (2) people are already calling for Maddinson only after a few first class games. What about Chris Lynn from QLD who has done as much as Maddinson. Chris who? Exactly. Players outside of NSW have to prove themselves before they even get a look in or even get a mention. I live in Sydney and couldn’t believe the pumping up of Smith prior to his selection this series. The ‘triple threat’ and despite his form the ‘gritty’ 59 he made in trying conditions for Australia A. What about Cam White’s century in the same game, not even a mention.
One of the ways to overcome this is a proper selection criteria within the selection process. In previous decades, if you scored heavily in Shield cricket, plus scored runs in big matches like shield finals this would always be looked upon favourably – in which case David Hussey should be playing right now. Not any more, selection seems to be highly subjective, therefore greater the chance of influence by the media.
For what it’s worth here is my team (and I would like to think I’ve taken a proper national view, but I’m open to criticism).
1. Watson (NSW) – Normally the incapability to not make big scores at the top of the order would be a big issue, but we have more pressing ones. The fact that Watson makes starts in theory should shield the rest of the order, and if we start including youngsters then this will be important.
2. M. Hussey (WA) – Some will say let’s not change what’s not broken, and if we had any openers actually making a justified claim then I would agree. But we don’t so the main priority should be blooding one or two openers in the middle order thereby protecting them. Hussey has opened successfully before and in this series has shown he has the best technique to combat the moving ball.
3. Ponting (TAS / Cap) – I still believe he is the best option of the current eleven to be captain and still the second best batsman in this team (of the team that played this match).
4. Khawaja (NSW) – the only youngster to truly lay claims with tangible scoring record over the last two years and a solid technique and class to be able to justifiably lay claim to a spot.
5. Clarke (NSW) or McDonald (VIC) (but at 6) – If McDonald was fit I would choose him because of the balance to the TEAM he provides. And I think batting and bowling with a TEAM culture has sorely been missed this series. With McDonald injured I stick with Clarke. Clarke was, just only over a year ago, the n.o. 1 ranked batsman in the world. He has been earmarked by Australia as the next captain, and whether we agree or not (and I don’t) without any true claims from any 20′s something youngster then perhaps we should persist. For the first half of his career, I doubted his technique and ability to score any runs when the pressure is on. His record was evidence of that. He was lucky to be able to be nurtured (carried in less complimentary terms) during the golden era. But he did develop into an outstanding international batsman. I would drop him if there was a 20′s something player truly laying a claim. But there isn’t. D. Hussey could be looked at, but I think Hussey’s time has passed. I still think D. Hussey is a brilliant batsman, one of the top 2 or 3 in the country, but not the answer for 2013. However if McDonald was fit I would go for him because his record with the bat and ball this year is outstanding, and he gives such balance and tightness to the bowling line-up. Him and Johnson would work well in tandem. McDonald is also only 29 and seems to be just reaching his peak, and Kallis, Watson and Flintoff showed that all rounders take a while to mature.
6. C. White (VIC) – the best leader in the country. Again records should stand for something and having been captain of junior Australian sides and captain of Victoria since he was 20, winning multiple championships in each form of cricket should speak volumes. His last three years at first class levels have been top rate as a batsmen including a shield final century. Let him earn his spot over the next 12 months. If he does he becomes the captain to build the side around for 2013. And he is only 27.
7. Haddin (NSW) – good series. There are better keepers see Paine and Wade, but his batting was very good. Technically he isn’t a great batsman but he is only getting better with each test.
8. Beer (WA) – because Sydney dictates a spinner and you can’t drop him if he hasn’t had the chance after he has been selected. Personally I would select S. O’Keefe. SOK’s record must stand for something.
9. Johnson (WA) – personally I don’t believe we can carry him, but if we get the balance of the bowling attack around him right (including McDonald) then we can leverage his strengths better, and those strengths include being a genuine match winner when the conditions are right and on song.
10. Siddle (VIC) – leading wicket taker this series for Aus, who is still young in fast bowler terms with plenty to learn. Should persist with him, especially now that Harris is out. He just turned 26.
11. Copeland (NSW) or Butterworth (TAS) – records over the last two years justify a look. Perhaps Copeland just shades given his record. Butterworth can bat, has been sensational this year, including destroying a full strength NSW top order earlier this year, and been man of the match in a shield final previously.
So the above considers injuries and who is currently in the squad to aid a bit of reality for the selection, but those aside my team would look like this in summary:
1. Watson (NSW) 29
2. M. Hussey (WA) 35
3. Ponting (TAS) c 36
4. Khawaja (NSW) 24
5. C. White (VIC) 27
6. McDonald (VIC) 29
7. Haddin (NSW) 33
8. O’Keefe (NSW) 26
9. Johnson (WA) 29
10. Siddle (VIC) 26
11. Copeland (NSW) 24
12. Butterworth (TAS) 27
And for all the Hodge supporters out there. I completely agree, he probably is the number 1 batsman currently in the country. He would be the first player chosen if it actually was my team, but I’m being realistic. He is 36, which puts him out of the frame for 2013 and retired from FC cricket. Hussey and Ponting should look to be replaced (either pushed or voluntarily) around – before, during or after – the India series next year, hopefully by then a few other names will have truly laid claims – Lynn, Ferguson, Marsh, Maddinson.
December 30th 2010 @ 4:11am
Long On said | December 30th 2010 @ 4:11am | Report comment
I agree with you on NSW centricity effecting cricket selection. The publicity that Maddison is getting is outrageous and he probably will be in the team before long even if he hasn’t earned it. The worse thing is it is counterproductive, it can destroy young cricketers before they are ready.
Hughes should be dropped from the test team, this will be the third time that has happened and means he may never play test cricket again. He should had been forced to score runs at shield level, like Katich had to. His technical flaws should have been sorted out at first class level and not the test team in an Ashes series. Hughes batting average this season said he wasn’t ready.
It is a fundamental thing, having to earn your place. It should not be about some young bloke from NSW having a purple patch in Shield cricket getting into the team.
December 29th 2010 @ 7:33am
Vinay Verma said | December 29th 2010 @ 7:33am | Report comment
Brett,good summing up…I was only trying to lift our collective spirits by opining Australia would be 5for 750 when Hughes was rollicking along….As I write this the MCG is being prepared for the final rites.
December 29th 2010 @ 8:17am
LeftArmSpinner said | December 29th 2010 @ 8:17am | Report comment
I suspect that the obits wont follow soon enough. that is a symptom of the problems. selectors, coach, capt and VC are in denial. Its time!!!!!
December 29th 2010 @ 8:44am
LK said | December 29th 2010 @ 8:44am | Report comment
I thought Hughes looked comfortable before getting run out. Hopefully the selectors stick by him. Why don’t they drop Watson down to number 6 in the batting? Surely, it is preferable that he runs out tail-enders?
December 29th 2010 @ 9:21am
Rhys said | December 29th 2010 @ 9:21am | Report comment
LK, I’m not sure the tail-enders would feel it was preferable.
December 29th 2010 @ 9:05pm
Lolly said | December 29th 2010 @ 9:05pm | Report comment
He’ll run through tail-enders like butter off a hot knife. Our lot wouldn’t stand a chance. I saw him run out Johnson last summer on one of Johnson’s occasional spells of looking very good with the bat. You could see that neither of them knew what was going on even though it was Watson’s call.
I think he takes off sometimes without calling. Seriously.
December 29th 2010 @ 9:26am
Brett McKay said | December 29th 2010 @ 9:26am | Report comment
there’s a lot of batsmen occupying 5 and 6 in the order all of a sudden…
December 29th 2010 @ 9:41am
plugger said | December 29th 2010 @ 9:41am | Report comment
Winners are grinners but you have to question the planning and tactics in Australian cricket over the past 5 or 6 years.
In the second last Ashes in England they refused to play Stuart Magill, even though he was at the peak of his form and arguably the best leg-spinner in the world at the time. Similarly, in the last Ashes in England they refused to play Hauritz in the last test match, having no spinners. This series, the selections have been poor also, with a reluctance to play a front-line spinner. Having 5 pacemen if you include Watson unbalances the team. Then there is the choice of Smith at number 6. He is clearly not ready for that role and there were several players they could have slotted in there, including David Hussey, Khawajah or North. Don’t forget that North still has a good test average.
England have been clever at utilizing South Africans to beef up their batting strength and their choice of tall fast bowlers to utilize the higher bounce in Australian wickets has been a masterstroke.
December 29th 2010 @ 10:00am
Mick Gold Coast QLD said | December 29th 2010 @ 10:00am | Report comment
“England deserve their Ashes success”
Pigs! The Poms never deserve anything, other than a flogging.
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December 29th 2010 @ 10:04am
Brett McKay said | December 29th 2010 @ 10:04am | Report comment
But, but…
December 29th 2010 @ 2:19pm
Martin said | December 29th 2010 @ 2:19pm | Report comment
Very funny.
December 29th 2010 @ 10:02am
coops said | December 29th 2010 @ 10:02am | Report comment
Where to start? Ill disciplined batting, woeful fielding, substandard bowling…Congrats to England, they thoroughly deserve the plaudits coming their way… but we have made them look good too. Michael Slater just stated on channel nine that he thought the current Australian team was the best 11 players in the country. Sorry, but I can’t cop that. Is he saying that our best crop of players can’t get within an innings of England? Call me arrogant, but what a load of shite. We have 11 players out there somewhere waiting to dish it up to these pommy blokes. It is irrefutable that it is time for change. I am not being negative, or a Ponting/Clarke basher, quite the opposite, for Aussie cricket to go forward, we must be positive and that involves tough decisions and change. The change needs to be from the top down. It does no good to blame the likes of Hughes and Smith, this series was lost months if not years before they were thrown into the deep end. Sutherland, Hilditch, Nielson and Ponting should all step down this week; No, they should step down this very afternoon. Clarke needs to go back to Sheffield Shield. We need to rebuild. We need to start now. The problem has been ignored for 18 months since exactly the same thing happened on English shores. Perhaps it was easier to ignore because it was over there. But it can no longer be ignored.
I’ll pose a question to you… if you were to pick a first 11 from these two squads, which Aussies would make the cut? On current form, surely it could only be Hussey and Haddin in for Collingwood and Prior.
December 29th 2010 @ 11:32am
plugger said | December 29th 2010 @ 11:32am | Report comment
>>Michael Slater just stated on channel nine that he thought the current Australian team was the best 11 players in the country<<
It's quite evident that the channel 9 mob are contracted to promote the party line- "all is well" with this team will be their mantra. It's a cozy little empire in the cricket media.
Even Richie Benaud has gone to jelly and won't criticise them, in spite of his decades of knowledge.
December 29th 2010 @ 7:00pm
TJ said | December 29th 2010 @ 7:00pm | Report comment
Plugger – this is completely true. I was watching nine, when they did a round table of all their commentators this morning, asking how and what changes. Not one criticism of the current team, or suggestion of an actual change. That’s a joke. Not even Bill, who we all really know believes there should be eleven Victorians out there (and I’m Victorian!)
Also Plugger – I have to disagree with an earlier post of yours – Marcus North’s test average is not good. 35 might be acceptable for NZ (see pin-up boy Jamie How – I’m a big supporter of NZ cricket btw), but even Ian Bell averaged higher than that when we made fun of him earlier in his career. People talk about North’s five centuries in 21 tests. Trott has five in 17 tests at an average close to double that of North’s.
December 29th 2010 @ 12:26pm
Tone said | December 29th 2010 @ 12:26pm | Report comment
M.Slater was the most frustrating cricketter i have ever witnessed. Dont forget he got a ‘get out of jail free card’ from Tubby Taylor to play Australian cricket when he was willowing away with depression issues playing cricket for Bankstown.
Dont take any of his rubbish as gospel. I dare say Tubby probably got him the job in the commentary box too….
Too much has been stated about the playing groups failiures…
Punter gets a good whack for his captaincy….true he is not the leader to take us to the next Ashes…
Not enough is stated about our back of house. The couching staff that is.
As you said…poor fielding..batting bowling and little direction or a plan..
Young i think is his name(bowling coach). he is American and has missed much of this currant series..
Bowling coach….Cooley.. With Hilf having technique problems, Smith and Doherty having teething problems, it is fair to say that Cooley has failed…
Langer….i will give him space..
Tim Neilson….please, people tell me…is he a good coach..?
Buchanon had his detractors I know, but on match day he knew every bit of history about the opposition playing group.
What does Neilson so much as do?
December 29th 2010 @ 12:39pm
plugger said | December 29th 2010 @ 12:39pm | Report comment
When Cameron White made a hundred for Australia A against England it just so happened to be televised by channel 9. Ian Healy suggested that he may be a candidate for the team, even a captaincy candidate, to which Michael Slater replied, “No way is that going to happen”.
Get the drift?
December 29th 2010 @ 12:57pm
Gif Richard said | December 29th 2010 @ 12:57pm | Report comment
Like him or loathe him but don’t have a dig based on his battle with depression.
December 29th 2010 @ 7:15pm
Brett McKay said | December 29th 2010 @ 7:15pm | Report comment
Coops and Plugger, just an alternative perspective on some comments highlighted here:
“Michael Slater just stated on channel nine that he thought the current Australian team was the best 11 players in the country.”
- Is it possible (and I didn’t hear him say this, so genuine question) that what Slater actually means is that he doesn’t think there’s eleven OTHER players out there that would be better than the current team??
“Ian Healy suggested that [White] may be a candidate for the team, even a captaincy candidate, to which Michael Slater replied, ‘No way is that going to happen’.”
- again, is it possible that Slater was saying this as a criticism of the current reluctance to drop senior players and change the hierarchy??
Just some thoughts, when I first read what you guys posted here, I just wondered which way the comments were intended…
December 29th 2010 @ 8:01pm
plugger said | December 29th 2010 @ 8:01pm | Report comment
Yes. Slater could have been referring to that reluctance, that’s true. I wouldn’t condemn him at all.