Matt Giteau is a twit for his Robbie Deans tweet
By Spiro Zavos, 16 Feb 2012 Spiro Zavos is a Roar Expert
Matt Giteau fails to handle the ball. AP Photo/Rick Rycroft,
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It was a case of “there he goes again” when Matt Giteau rather indulgently tweeted another attack on Wallabies coach Robbie Deans.
“I’m starting to lose the faith but after waiting all day I don’t think I’m going to get a valentines card from Robbie Deans ha,” read the former Australian representative’s message.
In all seriousness, why would Deans maintain contact with Giteau?
Giteau failed to reward the coach’s goodwill in 2008, when Deans awarded him the prized number 10 jersey. Instead, Giteau responded with a series of poor displays, including some appalling goal-kicking that lost Australia a couple of seemingly easy Tests.
Soon afterwards, Giteau’s teammates were justifiably promoted to the number 10 position. The next year Giteau was overlooked for the vice-captaincy position – another correct decision – only for him to unleash a poisonous series of tweets after the Wallabies semi-final loss to the All Blacks in the Rugby World Cup.
One of his tweets read: “Shows (McKenzie) understands the players; players clearly play for him. He should b oz coach #justmyopinion.”
When this tweet provoked an outrage, Giteau deleted it and put up a “more diplomatic” version; “Shows (McKenzie) understands players and players clearly like playing for him. #RWC11 #clearsolution here.” Yet the updated tweet was nevertheless obnoxious, especially from a player still in line for a recall to the Wallabies side.
Let’s be clear about the impertinence of this nonsense.
Deans has achieved far more success in his career as a coach – and as a player for that matter – than Giteau. Deans has five Super Rugby titles, a bronze medal from the 2011 Rugby World Cup and the 2o11 Tri Nations title next to his name.
After inheriting a broken side – ranked fifth in the world in 2007 – he pushed the Wallabies up the rankings, making them the second best team in rugby. Giteau, on the other hand, has played in just two Super Rugby titles – with the Brumbies – and one final with the Wallabies, during the 2003 Rugby World Cup.
Moreover, those Super Rugby titles and the 2003 final were triumphs that flowed from the brilliant play of others such as Stephen Larkham, not Giteau.
In fact, Giteau’s career can be divided into two halves. The first half, up until 2003, was filled with success. This success, however, was primarily the work of other players.
When Larkham retired from Australia after the 2007 Rugby World Cup, Giteau was seen as the new golden boy of Australian rugby. The Western Force offered him a fortune to be the foundation of a successful and enduring franchise. Deans gave him the Wallaby number 10 shirt.
Yet the Western Force struggled to win games, with Giteau perennially being the star who could not deliver. In 2009 Giteau missed four of five shots at goal – including shots from almost directly in front – against Scotland. Such poor form allowed Scotland to defeat the Wallabies for the first time in 27 years. And Giteau’s kicking woes only continued.
In the crucial 2011 season, Deans gave Giteau a final chance to impress at number 10 in the first Test of the year against Samoa. But Giteau played poorly as Samoa massacred the Wallabies. Even Rod Kafer, Giteau’s greatest supporter in the media, was pointing out that Giteau was running across the field and compromising the directness of the Wallabies’ back-line attacks.
Deans made the obvious decision to go into the next Rugby World Cup with Quade Cooper as his number 10 and Berrick Barnes as his back-up. He also correctly opted for stronger tacklers in the centre. There was no place for Giteau in the 30-player squad.
The back story to all of this was that Giteau was probably the last of the dissident players, most of them with a Brumbies background, who virtually rebelled against the Australian Rugby Union in the years leading up to the 2003 Rugby World Cup tournament.
In other words, there was a bigger game behind the surliness and insolence. The game of rugby politics.
In Giteau’s case, it was also the game of celebrity. There was always the notion that he cared more about his own interests than those of the team. And those interests were essentially financial.
You get a sense of this in Georgina Robinson’s story about the tweet, from this morning’s Sydney Morning Herald.
She quotes several tweets between Giteau and Joe Rokocoko, who asked “did you get a card from mickey though.”
Robinson identifies “mickey” as Micky Steele-Bodger, the president of the Barbarians. Yesterday Steele-Bodger announced that the Barbarians will play three Tests in June.
Giteau’s reply to Rokocoko is instructive: “that’s the one card I want bro ha ha as long as it arrives before the next baa baa game I’m happy.”
As Robinson notes rather tersely: “Players are paid a handsome fee for Barbarians selection.”
Oh dear! Players have short careers; even the ones who have “long” careers don’t last forever. No one begrudges them making as much money as they can before their playing days are over.
But let’s not have to put up with this nonsense about not being understood when a coach has done the right thing and dropped someone for a good reason.
Spiro Zavos, a founding writer on The Roar, was long time editorial writer on the Sydney Morning Herald, where he started a rugby column that has run for nearly 30 years. Spiro has written 12 books: fiction, biography, politics and histories of Australian, New Zealand, British and South African rugby. He is regarded as one of the foremost writers on rugby throughout the world.
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February 16th 2012 @ 3:40am
sportym said | February 16th 2012 @ 3:40am | Report comment
Slow day in the news I see. We all know Gits is a twit…. end of story. This piece is getting a little personal, did Gits not send you a Valentines message??
Though the Twit did no lose us the 2011 RWC…. For all his Experience Deans has no idea how to use the Bench, that hurt us big time in the RWC.
February 16th 2012 @ 4:30am
kingplaymaker said | February 16th 2012 @ 4:30am | Report comment
The amazing thing about Giteau was the vanity of his idea that he should even be considered for the RWC given his diabolical form throughout not only the whole season, but the one before that.
It may be forgotten now, but there was a time in 2010 when Deans was savaged by all for NOT dropping Giteau. It was two years before the RWC that you have to look for a decent Giteau performance.
Even the sternest Deans critics were all in favour of dropping Giteau, and in fact a mainstay of their criticism of Deans at one point was that Giteau hadn’t yet been written off.
The egos of some of these players are astounding and separate them completely from reality: Ryan Cross complained that he had been left out of the RWC squad but would anyone who had watched him play rugby that year agree?
Stardom is obviously part of this, but also these players have to convince themselves that they are good so much to perform at this level, that when they can no longer do so the reality doesn’t register. This sadly coincides with their seniority as players and stature in the game. In most walks of life when a man is senior in his field he is also as capable of doing a job roughly as well as before, maybe better because of experience. In sport however, seniority often goes hand-in-hand with physical and therefore playing decline.
If Giteau wants to blame anyone for his loss of form it should be the ARU who to be fair to him hardly provided any decent strike runners during his last years to make something of his playmaking, and Quade Cooper for existing.
Deans in fact kept Giteau on long after his time was up. I have some sympathy with Giteau’s loyalty to Lote Tuqiri after the mishandled jettisoning of said player, but Deans in fact swept that all under the carpet the next year, was happy to move on, and it was history during the past two years of rugby, the ones where Giteau really went downhill as a player.
Sadly, many anti-Deans journalists will cunningly try now to have it both ways: deliberately forgetting their lambasting Deans for not dropping Giteau, they will now claim that he should have kept him on. I expect Wayne Smith to be the first to try and pull this trick.
February 16th 2012 @ 8:06am
mania said | February 16th 2012 @ 8:06am | Report comment
humiltiy is for losers. if you dont believe that your a winner then you’ll never be one. a top sportmans first and greatest attribute has to be self belief. this comes across as arogant but who cares? you have to believe in yourself to get anywhere in life.
i dont blame gitteau for being arogant, i blame him for being useless. gitteau and the wallabies fell to pieces in that samoa game. it wasnt just gitteaus fault they all lost their courage that day.
February 16th 2012 @ 8:16am
kingplaymaker said | February 16th 2012 @ 8:16am | Report comment
But mania surely playing like a loser while believing you’re amazing, and being arrogant about abysmal performances, is nothing to admire?
February 16th 2012 @ 8:19am
mania said | February 16th 2012 @ 8:19am | Report comment
admiration is external. self belief/arogance is internal.
you cant have self belief and worry about how people think of u. that makes u a crybaby loser.
sure he was arogant despite being abysmal, but I’m just saying that every top competitor has to have that arogance in order to get anywhere. dont hate him for his vanity and arogance, hate him because he sucked.
but yes defiantely not something to admire
February 16th 2012 @ 10:24am
WQ said | February 16th 2012 @ 10:24am | Report comment
I agree with you kingplaymaker, being arrogant when you are turning in rubbish performances is not very admiral but also childish and immature.
mania, I can accept your point in relation to self belief, however you must also have the ability to be self analytical and learn from mistakes. If you can’t then you end up where Matt Giteau is right now!
February 16th 2012 @ 10:29am
mania said | February 16th 2012 @ 10:29am | Report comment
ok this is an argument about nothing and the points we agree and disagree on are overlapping…but trying to get the last word in…
u dont have to be self analytical to be a great player, in fact for some players its not a good thing. too much thinking and their head hurts.
definately need to learn from your mistakes but then just learning full stop is a must for a top sportsman.
sure its childish and immature but in a top sportsman humility and modesty is a death knell.
i think quade cooper falls into this catergory but u gotta admire the guy for gumption while laughing/cringing at his performance. it was so ballsy of quade to say to the nz public that booing lifted his game and look how that turned out.
February 16th 2012 @ 10:01am
Jay said | February 16th 2012 @ 10:01am | Report comment
I’m not convinced you actually watched many Brumbies games last year – he was consistently one of their best.
February 16th 2012 @ 10:37am
Markus said | February 16th 2012 @ 10:37am | Report comment
I did. In a team that turned in their worst finish in Super history, that isn’t saying much.
While I’m sure Giteau was doing his best to step up and lead from the front, if anything his continual attempts to do everything himself were to the detriment of the rest of the backline.
February 16th 2012 @ 4:55am
Dave said | February 16th 2012 @ 4:55am | Report comment
Who cares? Let him make all ye comments he likes. In fact more honest opinions from players would be great. I’m sure Giteau knew exactly what he was saying, so good on him for speaking his mind and keeping a sense of humour about it all.
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February 16th 2012 @ 5:39am
Viscount Crouchback said | February 16th 2012 @ 5:39am | Report comment
It is a scandal that this oaf is permitted to wear the hallowed jersey of the Barbarians.
February 16th 2012 @ 9:17am
soapit said | February 16th 2012 @ 9:17am | Report comment
humph humph
February 16th 2012 @ 9:40am
sandal said | February 16th 2012 @ 9:40am | Report comment
Speaking of oafs in Barbarians strips – Willy Mason anyone?
February 16th 2012 @ 5:49am
mushi said | February 16th 2012 @ 5:49am | Report comment
It does seem like a personal swipe, I suppose Michael Clarke is off the hunting list at the moment.
I do wonder what kind of thought process leads to a journalist chastising a player or coach for having less success in the sport than the person they are commenting on.
February 17th 2012 @ 2:22am
AndyMack said | February 17th 2012 @ 2:22am | Report comment
Zing!!!!
February 16th 2012 @ 6:13am
Ben S said | February 16th 2012 @ 6:13am | Report comment
This is worth an ‘article’?
What did Quade Cooper say the other day, btw? Wasn’t that a thinly veiled criticism of the Wallaby game plan?
February 16th 2012 @ 6:17am
johnny-boy said | February 16th 2012 @ 6:17am | Report comment
Giteau was three times the player Deans ever was and Giteau didnt have McCaw and Carter and the cream of NZ rugby poached for him by the Canterbury club to artificially inflate his career. Giteau is only saying out loud what a fair few of the contracted players in Australia are thinking I suspect (although its becoming pretty obvious). You are defending the indefensible Spiro. The days of players just being nuisance pawns for administrators is not far off being given a good shake up. And not before time.
February 16th 2012 @ 10:45am
Geoff said | February 16th 2012 @ 10:45am | Report comment
Giteau was three times the player Deans ever was and Giteau didnt have McCaw and Carter and the cream of NZ rugby poached for him by the Canterbury club to artificially inflate his career.
Deans was 10 times the goal kicker that giteau ever was – he regularly won games with kicks from his own half (unlike Giteau losing games by missing kicks from in front).
You also realise that both Carter and McAwe are from Canterbury right? What do you expect the Crusaders to do? Not pick players from their own catchment?
February 16th 2012 @ 10:55am
mania said | February 16th 2012 @ 10:55am | Report comment
actually mccaw’s from highlanders territory, north otago and Oamaru high
carter is definately born and bred crusader
February 16th 2012 @ 4:12pm
Peter Wilson said | February 16th 2012 @ 4:12pm | Report comment
February 16th 2012 @ 11:07am
sheek said | February 16th 2012 @ 11:07am | Report comment
J-B,
You have anything to do with the defence of Singapore back in 1941-42……….?
If Spiro is defending the indefensible, then I’m lost at whatever it is you’re defending……….!
February 16th 2012 @ 6:48am
mania said | February 16th 2012 @ 6:48am | Report comment
yeah gitteau could feel agreived if he were a truly good player. after larkham and gregan retired gitts became ordinary. he never warranted the $6-7 mil contract he was promised by force and that was when his career started going down hill.
i’m guessing but during the end of his force tenure he was more interested in 3rd party payments than having his head in the game. it was during that time he became mediocre and hasnt been able to get himself out of it
February 16th 2012 @ 9:18am
soapit said | February 16th 2012 @ 9:18am | Report comment
mate the guy carried the australian team for a few seasons there and won plenty of match for his country over the years. i’d say he can play.
February 16th 2012 @ 10:15am
mania said | February 16th 2012 @ 10:15am | Report comment
@soapit…
he never carried the australian side, but he was a valued and high performing member
post force though he went down hill and unfortunately slipped from his worldClass level. coincided with his 3rd party payments mix up. not sure if that had anything to do with it tho
gitts was an awesome player in his time, BUT, in his time there were other great players as well that shared the work, ideas, strategies and tactics.
the gits of the past 3 seasons has been avarge and would have to improve immensly to get to mediocre. stil should’ve been in the aus side as a reserve back but cant blame deans for dropping him.
soapit did u happen to watch the samoa vs aus game? I’ve never seen a worldClass player like gitts so scared. he was throwing hospital passes just to avoid getting smashed. a worldClass player never panics. all of the wallabies were in total rout that day.
ps i cant stand deans and am absolutely happy that he’s in aus and hope he stays there. i never want to see him coaching the AB’s ever again
February 16th 2012 @ 12:53pm
soapit said | February 16th 2012 @ 12:53pm | Report comment
thats rubbish. he was our only good player once larkham kept getting injured. why do you think the aru paid him so much money.
February 17th 2012 @ 12:20pm
mania said | February 17th 2012 @ 12:20pm | Report comment
i dont know why he got paid so much. i’ve tried rationalising it but honestly i cant come up with a single reason why he became the 6 million dollar man
February 17th 2012 @ 3:34pm
soapit said | February 17th 2012 @ 3:34pm | Report comment
then maybe people who do it for a living were able to figure out a reason.
February 16th 2012 @ 12:55pm
soapit said | February 16th 2012 @ 12:55pm | Report comment
i think ur barking up the wrong tree if ur blaming the 5/8 for losing to a very physical samoan side.
February 16th 2012 @ 1:51pm
Tommygun said | February 16th 2012 @ 1:51pm | Report comment
yeah i agree a little there. The forward pack were terrified of the Samoans and completely dropped their nuts. Giteau didn’t do much either…
February 17th 2012 @ 12:18pm
mania said | February 17th 2012 @ 12:18pm | Report comment
gitts dropped his nuts too. he was scrambling side ways and throwing shocking passes from fear of being hit.they all lost confidence that day.
didnt say that it was solely gitts fault for losing to the samoans but a world class player isnt scared of being hit. rugby’s a contact sport and he should’ve known that.
not saying that gits was a horrible player but he’s no where near as good as most people think, but thats just my humble opinion
February 17th 2012 @ 3:35pm
soapit said | February 17th 2012 @ 3:35pm | Report comment
his forwards shouldnt have been letting the samoans get anywhere near the 5/8
February 16th 2012 @ 6:50am
kingplaymaker said | February 16th 2012 @ 6:50am | Report comment
J-B your anti-Deans crusade makes less sense here: all the commentators who are against Deans were also against Giteau and in fact castigated Deans for not dropping Giteau! You can’t have it both ways.
February 16th 2012 @ 8:06am
katzilla said | February 16th 2012 @ 8:06am | Report comment
It wasn’t the Larkhams or Gregans that made him look good, it was the Finegans et al.
You can even get away with a bit of sideways running when the defence is already on the back foot.
February 16th 2012 @ 9:44am
pjbreck said | February 16th 2012 @ 9:44am | Report comment
I agree, the brumbies forwards during the golden years did not get enough credit. Finegan especially, but Jim williams, Samo, they all knew there job was to get the Brumbies going forward. They would go 1m, 2m but that little bit of ground put the oposition on teh back foot., which then opened up the game for the likes of Larkham, Roff, Bondy to do the dancing.
February 16th 2012 @ 11:00am
Markus said | February 16th 2012 @ 11:00am | Report comment
With all this obsession on getting the Wallabies scrum to a worldbeating standard, coach after coach has overlooked the much more important breakdown dominance that fed the backline.
I recently re-watched the 2001 Lions games, and even in this golden era Wallabies side the scrum was demolished, but the speed and ferocity with which the forwards secured the breakdowns was a sight to behold.
I’d add Giffin to that list of underrated forwards. He never had the grace of Eales, but still one of the best locks Australia have ever had.
February 16th 2012 @ 1:58pm
peterlala said | February 16th 2012 @ 1:58pm | Report comment
Good call. It was a great team, forwards and backs. I think they were better than the current Reds, who played great rugby to win the Super 15.