Titans snap losing streak with 26-14 win

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    A masterful display by Gold Coast halfback Scott Prince helped the Titans snap a five-game losing streak, with a 26-14 NRL victory over Manly on Saturday night.

    It was a case of last year’s wooden spooners against the reigning premiers, but neither side played up to their title at Brookvale Oval, much to the dismay of the largely pro-Manly crowd of 11,619.

    The Titans showed an energy in attack and defence which eluded them through 2011, while Manly sorely missed their international quartet of Tony Williams (suspension), Kieran Foran (hamstring), Brett Stewart (ribs) and Glenn Stewart (thumb).

    Titans skipper Prince masterminded the victory, laying on three of their four tries, including two in the second half with pin-point cross-field kicks to wingers David Mead and Kevin Gordon that extended the visitors’ lead to 14 points.

    The 32-year-old also kicked five goals in a man-of-the-match performance – easily his best of the season.

    The Titans enjoyed the better of the first half, taking a lead into the break thanks to a slow-motion try to Jamal Idris in the 29th minute.

    Idris, clearly hampered by the hamstring injury which caused him to miss three matches this season, was put into an enormous gap before lumbering towards the tryline.

    Idris, who was placed on report for a high shot on Jamie Lyon, didn’t return after the halftime break.

    Lyon was able to recover from the hit to scamper through for a try of his own, which levelled the scores after Titans debutant Aidan Sezer had opened the scoring with a scything run in the ninth minute.

    Titans lock Ashley Harrison was also put on report for a high shot on Vic Mauro, while Manly’s Jamie Buhrer also found himself on report for a dangerous lifting tackle on David Mead late in the half, though prop Darcy Lussick appeared to be the main aggressor in the tackle.

    Manly centre Steve Matai went off in the 70th minute after suffering a shoulder injury, while Lyon scored his second with two minutes left which he converted for a personal haul of 14 points.

    The Sea Eagles’ title defence continued to stumble, the team falling to eighth spot on the ladder with three wins and four losses.

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    • April 15th 2012 @ 8:22am
      oikee said | April 15th 2012 @ 8:22am | ! Report

      You really have to laugh, on the photo of the terrorgraph you have Watmough giving Bird a drumstick tackle, or Croc roll, wghatever they call that twisting the foot to try and injure a player. Charge him Judish.
      Will be a good clash now between the Titans and Broncos, looks like the Titans have finally found a number 6. And i see they dumped my mate Micheals, nice work Cartwright, finally you are making the right calls. Good win.
      Last point, 11,500 to a Manly home game, πŸ™‚ Come on NRL, come on Commish, this cant keep going on like this, they have a 7 thousand crowd last year. The latte sippers wont turn up to this club, take the game to the central coast now, before you have to start propping them up again. One bad season and the eagles are busted, they lose money even when they win premierships.

      Time you got paid to do your job commish, bring back the Bears now, Manly gone, gone i tell ya.
      You cant have teams on holiday strips, take a leaf outta the Titans books and they have half a million area, Manly has a man a dog and a couple of seagulls. πŸ™‚

      • April 15th 2012 @ 10:47am
        Ian Whitchurch said | April 15th 2012 @ 10:47am | ! Report

        Oikee,

        Compared to the crowd of zero that the second Brisbane team gets, eleven thousand isnt too bad.

        Heck, I’d argue Brisbane should have three teams, plus another one on the Gold Coast.

        • April 15th 2012 @ 1:23pm
          Mals said | April 15th 2012 @ 1:23pm | ! Report

          Ian it is pointless trying to use logic with Oikee, it’s not his strong point.

          Oikee did you see the swinging arm from Idris on Lyon? Or the high shot on Mauro from Harrison? Nah i guess you didn’t because they weren’t wearing a Manly jersey.

          • April 15th 2012 @ 2:32pm
            eagleJack said | April 15th 2012 @ 2:32pm | ! Report

            It’s easier to just simply ignore the incoherent ramblings of Oikee.

          • April 16th 2012 @ 6:07am
            oikee said | April 16th 2012 @ 6:07am | ! Report

            πŸ™‚ Yes he knocked Jamie out, yet straight after this Jamie took the tap, he scored, then kicked the goal. Come on you blokes, you really think we are stupid. Jamie is like Seale, a bit of a fibber to put it nicely.
            They should of put Lyon on report for bringing the game into disrepute. He took a dive, Indris never touched him.
            I wonder when Manly are going to have 13 players on the field, not 15.
            You can tell when the refs have not turned up for Manly, Matai cant swing his arm or attack a players head, and now Jamie has to bring his acting skills to get some penalties.
            Anyhow, it is all falling apart at Manly, the ship is sinking, falling apart, and they have no juniors, look out Parra, must be time for Manly to look at their youth again.

            • April 16th 2012 @ 6:37am
              Bearfax said | April 16th 2012 @ 6:37am | ! Report

              You really seem to have a serious bias against Manly dont you Oikee. I could understand if you were suffering from their actions in ‘stealing’ a lot of players in the 70’s and 80’s. Circumstances changed big time in the past 2 decades or didnt you notice and are you still trapped in that time zone.

              There are many clubs out there that have been outdoing for talent ‘Manly’ for years….Manly is now like Cronulla, Titans, Wests, Penrith, even North Queensland, struggling with less money than other teams, having their teams plundered by the ‘richer’ clubs, suffering (and obviously you’ve missed this) more penalties than most other clubs(check the statistics) and having a player out for the longest duration this season of any club.

              The suggestion that the refs are supporting Manly in some ways is not only pure fantasy, it flies against the evidence regarding penalties given.

              Your suggestion about Lyon taking a dive is just sheer maliciousness, but that’s to be expected. And yes Matai can be dangerous at times with his swinging arm, but he’s spent a lot of time on the sideline for it, so its not as if he’s being favoured. As for juniors, yes Manly struggles a little but there are worse off teams (Norths were in fact worse, Sydney City juniors are non existant, Cronulla struggles, Melbourne has to buy in…so what’s your point). By the way Manly’s SG Ball team came in 3rd before the finals this year and their Matthew Shield side only just missed the finals. NSW Cup side is about middle of the comp. Only Toyota Cup side is a cellar dweller so the juniors are doing pretty well at present.

              And as for Mnaly stealing from Parramatta, I guess the Hopoate brothers, Hodgkinson, Warea-Hargraves etc (all top class players and plus another three top juniors to Sydney City) dont count. Not to mention the likely loss of Lussick, Tony Williams (who made his name at Manly) and maybe even Matai to Cronulla. But then Oikee is not only one eyed about this argument, he even suffers from colour blindness

              • April 16th 2012 @ 6:52am
                oikee said | April 16th 2012 @ 6:52am | ! Report

                Well you vertually agreed with all that i said. And yes the Roosters are guilty as well, but they have a diffrent culture, which i talked about below.
                Manly have a culture of hate and anger.

              • April 16th 2012 @ 7:33am
                Bearfax said | April 16th 2012 @ 7:33am | ! Report

                That culture of ‘anger and hate was not Manly’s creation. It originated mainly through Roy Masters ‘Sivertails and Fibros’ allusion back in the early 1980’s and it developped from there. The culture of anger and hate is not maintained by Manly supporters, but rather by people like you Oikee.

                As for the crowd, yes not great but if you have seen Brookvale Oval (and the reason the first five games weren’t played there) is that almost a quarter to a third of the spectator arena is under re-construction. Manly only has a capacity of a little over 20000 at this stage (plans exist for bigger stadiums there mind you) and without that spectator area the capacity at present is much lower. The game against Penrith got only about 17000 and yet was standing room only and people were turned away.

                As for Manly fans travelling I guess you dont know the geography of Sydney do you. The Manly peninsula has only three principal roads out, and only one directly to the city. It is the only area of Sydney NOT to have a train line. Anyone who has driven or taken a bus along the main road access ( a four lane street) knows of the delay time it takes just to get to the city centre. And then you have to travel some substantial distance from there to get to other grounds. Only Cronulla (and they have a train service) and St George Illawarra (train service available again) have comparable driving distances to other football grounds including the Stadium.

                I mentioned before that someone coming from the upper northern beaches with family may have up to two and a half to three hours travel to get to the stadium and same back again. I should point out that while Manly supporters may not be known to cross the bridge, not that many supporters from other clubs cross the bridge to see Manly games at Brookvale either. Its not disinterest, its travel time. Canberra supporters could get to the stadium faster than supporters from many locations on the northern beaches (expressways).

              • April 16th 2012 @ 8:06am
                eagleJack said | April 16th 2012 @ 8:06am | ! Report

                Bearfax don’t bother arguing with oikee. You see there are 2 types of league supporters out there. I, like yourself, love my team. But I love Rugby League and enjoy watching other sides play as well. And respect what they bring to the table. I’ll admire opposition players and will praise them even if they tear my own team apart.

                Then there are people like oikee and Queenslands Game is Rugby League who support a team but spend more time and energy hating another. So much so that they become delusional and this anger (ironic since Manly are supposed to be angry) clouds their judgement. In the end they find they hate another side more than they love their own. More time is spent in opposition teams forums trying to prove their ill informed and misguided points. Ad nauseum.

                But it’s all good. That’s the culture of Rugby League and that’s why I love it.

              • April 17th 2012 @ 10:36pm
                Queensland's Game Is Rugby League said | April 17th 2012 @ 10:36pm | ! Report

                “Then there are people like oikee and Queenslands Game is Rugby League who support a team but spend more time and energy hating another.”

                Shows how little you know, eagleJack,

                I’m a ticketed member of the Wynnum-Manly Seagulls. I’m also a non-ticketed member of the Northern Pride and North Queensland Cowboys. The membership with the Pride allows me to watch all home games live. I pay $5 every time they play an away game. I do it because I want to see more rugby league. I don’t care who is playing, I just want to see Queensland teams play.

                The only clubs I dislike are the unprofitable ones from Sydney. I believe they’re holding the game back. I have no problems with Canterbury-Bankstown, South Sydney, St George-Illawarra and Wests Tigers.

        • April 15th 2012 @ 8:29pm
          Queensland's Game is Rugby League said | April 15th 2012 @ 8:29pm | ! Report

          “Compared to the crowd of zero that the second Brisbane team gets, eleven thousand isnt too bad”

          It’s not Brisbane’s fault that it only has one team.

          11,000 isn’t good enough for the premiers. They aren’t a profitable club. The council they’re based in, Manly, only has about 40,000 resdients. Warringah has what, 140,000? Hardly enough to support an NRL team, as is evident by their debt, poor stadium and low attendances.

          Time for them to go to the NSW Cup.

          • April 15th 2012 @ 8:33pm
            Ian Whitchurch said | April 15th 2012 @ 8:33pm | ! Report

            Qgirl,

            Killing clubs worked so very well last time. We should do it again !

            Have you ever thought of running either the NSWRU, or the Collingwood Coach Selection Panel ?

            • April 15th 2012 @ 8:47pm
              Queensland's Game is Rugby League said | April 15th 2012 @ 8:47pm | ! Report

              Ian,

              The competition would be pretty crap if it still had basketcases like the Magpies running around.

              Losing Manly-Warringah won’t hurt the game. It’s not as if the two councils have the sort of participation rate that warrants having a team in such a small region. They don’t have many fans either. The basketcase club cannot make a profit when they’re winning premierships. How are they going to go when they’re collecting the spoon?

              It makes sense to put the Sea Eagles where they belong, the NSW Cup, and replace the with a team from true rugby league heartland area. Ipswich fits that definition. An Ipswich-based team would draw big crowds and have heaps of classy local juniors in its squad.

              • April 15th 2012 @ 8:53pm
                Nathan of Perth said | April 15th 2012 @ 8:53pm | ! Report

                I have always held the position that anything that names itself after the most annoying bird of all probably deserves to get booted from whatever competition they’re in.

              • April 15th 2012 @ 9:17pm
                Queensland's Game is Rugby League said | April 15th 2012 @ 9:17pm | ! Report

                Magpies are dangerous around breeding season, but they’re angels for the rest of the year. They’re fairly tame bird. The ones I’ve worked with were quite calm and receptive to Human handling. The wild ones I have around the place are quite friendly.

                Lorikeets are another story. Those things (wild ones) will attack when they’re caged. They’re okay when they’re in their open environment, but if one is hospitalised then it’ll get cranky and attack anyone who gets close to it.

          • April 15th 2012 @ 8:39pm
            Titus said | April 15th 2012 @ 8:39pm | ! Report

            Trust me mate, the Northern Beaches and the North Shore has a big enough population to get big crowds if people are interested in going.

            • April 15th 2012 @ 8:51pm
              Queensland's Game is Rugby League said | April 15th 2012 @ 8:51pm | ! Report

              Manly-Warringah don’t really represent the North Shore.

              • April 15th 2012 @ 8:56pm
                Titus said | April 15th 2012 @ 8:56pm | ! Report

                Really, who does? The Bears?

                I live in Cremorne, in the Mosman area. I spend a lot of time in Manly and the Warringah Mall, I could be at Brookvale in 10-15 mins depending on traffic,30 000 here, 110 000 in the Kurringai area and another 50 000 in the Pittwater area.

                Thats about 400 000 not including the North Sydney area.

              • April 15th 2012 @ 9:10pm
                Queensland's Game is Rugby League said | April 15th 2012 @ 9:10pm | ! Report

                So how come the team isn’t called the North Shore-Northern Beaches Sea Eagles?

                Because the team only represents Manly and Warringah.

                A few diehard rugby league fans from surrounding LGAs will latch onto the Sea Eagles. Big deal.

                I cannot imagine a kid from Lane Cove would choose rugby league over soccer, rugby union and Aussie rules just because the Sea Eagles play in the NRL. There’s a better chance of him/her supporting the Balmain-Ryde-Eastwood Tigers in the NSW Cup and West Tigers in the NRL.

              • April 15th 2012 @ 9:45pm
                Ian Whitchurch said | April 15th 2012 @ 9:45pm | ! Report

                Qgirl,

                Thats because you and a small handful of branch-stackers consider LGAs important.

              • April 15th 2012 @ 10:39pm
                Queensland's Game is Rugby League said | April 15th 2012 @ 10:39pm | ! Report

                Ian,

                You don’t know what you’re talking about.

                Try getting people from Brisbane to support a team that’s based in Logan. Then go to the three or four LGAs that make up St. George and get people who were born and raised there to support the Sharks. If you find more than a handful of people who do that then you’ll make a fine salesman.

                So how do you explain that, Ian?

                If people don’t care about LGAs then how come the people of Brisbane won’t touch anything that’s associated with Logan.I was born and raised in Brisbane and now live in Logan. I see the hatred that people from Brisbane have for Logan. They won’t go near it and the only things they say about it are negative. Logan is an LGA.

      • April 15th 2012 @ 6:16pm
        Bearfax said | April 15th 2012 @ 6:16pm | ! Report

        Oikee what on Earth does Manlys loss the other night and their crowd (diminished because of new construction) got to do with the Bears coming back into the competition.

        Manly had nothing to do with the Bears demise. They went broke because of the SuperLeague war. You want to apportion blame aim it at the appropriate target eh

        Most Manly supporters would like the Bears back, or at least a Central Coast team. We’re not your enemy. The Northern Eagles debacle was an unfortunate mistake, but the Bears would not have existed if that team had not been formed to accommodate them…they were gone kapute finished. they had NO MONEY and were being financially supported in the Northern Eagles by the Manly club. Manly survived only just because they could find enought money to get restarted. But they are still suffering the consequence of that disastrous war that sent almost all the the ARL teams to the wall while SuperLeague teams were splashed with money from Murdock. And just to get it into perspective, my sources tell me Manly was actually invited into the SuperLeague and refused to protect the existing League.

        Direct your vitreol at those who caused Norths demise…poor administration, a con job to have them finance a move to central Coast and then being dropped when SuperLeague came in because they had no money left.

        And who is blocking the Bear’s application for re-entry as Ccentral Coast. Not Manly. That again is your true nemesis the League adminstration.

        • April 16th 2012 @ 10:52am
          Mals said | April 16th 2012 @ 10:52am | ! Report

          Exactly.

          And who is trying to lock a 2nd Brisbane team – News Ltd & the Broncos! They love their Brisbane monopoly!

      • April 15th 2012 @ 8:51pm
        Nathan of Perth said | April 15th 2012 @ 8:51pm | ! Report

        Hey, nothing wrong with a good latte!

        • April 16th 2012 @ 1:10pm
          Bearfax said | April 16th 2012 @ 1:10pm | ! Report

          I’m a tea man myself Nathan. Earl Grey or English Breakfast. I do enjoy an occasional turkish coffee though. Do you have your Latte with crumpet or scone? Not sure what this has to do with the footy, but hey I enjoy a little divergent chatter. We’ll have to do it again sometime.

    • April 15th 2012 @ 9:20am
      yewonk said | April 15th 2012 @ 9:20am | ! Report

      it was a completely different prince playing last night good game titans.

      • April 15th 2012 @ 8:31pm
        Queensland's Game is Rugby League said | April 15th 2012 @ 8:31pm | ! Report

        It helps when a halfback has a good ball-player playing outside of them.

    • April 15th 2012 @ 10:32am
      Crosscoder said | April 15th 2012 @ 10:32am | ! Report

      Titans have a good side,they have a tendancy to overplay their attack.They are more than competitive as a Gold Coast team.

    • April 15th 2012 @ 10:41am
      Bearfax said | April 15th 2012 @ 10:41am | ! Report

      Boo hooo hoo hoo….sentiments of a Manly supporter.

      Lats recap on this one shall we

      ‘Boo hoo hoo hoo hoo’

      11000 plus fans left a fractured Eagle’s fortress, contemplating the winter months and the increasing possibility that their team wont be contesting in September.

      Once more for those who missed it

      Booo hooo hoooo hooo!!!!!!!!

      • April 16th 2012 @ 6:21am
        oikee said | April 16th 2012 @ 6:21am | ! Report

        Dessy left a leagacy alright, of hatred and loathing , his tactics he had Stewart use with the grub match against the Storm, i dont know if Manly can recover. The outrage has left this club floundering,. this is the real cause of fans not wanting to turn up, not wanting to be part of this culture.
        This is why the Bears voice is growing stronger and stronger, and you will get Manly fans tell you it was the Bears fault, all the Bears fault they left the comp. this is Manly, always blaming someone else, it is never their fault, just ask Gallop. It is all his fault stewart got plastered at a Mnaly function. πŸ™‚

        • April 16th 2012 @ 10:54am
          Mals said | April 16th 2012 @ 10:54am | ! Report

          Get over yourself Oikee. You are again trying to re-write history. CC Bears won’t get into the comp in 2015 because of the power of News Ltd & the new Independent Commission. Manly will have no say in it.

    • April 15th 2012 @ 8:30pm
      Meesta Cool said | April 15th 2012 @ 8:30pm | ! Report

      Write Manly off at your Peril. by finals time they will be back as a real threat.. just like all but the last five years (Injury prone on 2010)

      Oikee, Brsbane have a good young team, they deserve the applause and the following, but your hatred of Manly is driving us all crazy!. who really cares that the get smaller crowds they play HARD Rugby League and games against Manly are worth attending coz you know that they will always be competitive! — I just love to hate em…

      By the way.. I also like reading your comments.. very enlightening stuff and usually worth a giggle!

      • April 15th 2012 @ 8:40pm
        Queensland's Game is Rugby League said | April 15th 2012 @ 8:40pm | ! Report

        The area they represent, Manly and Warringah, are home to a whopping population of… what for it… just over 185,000. Neither Manly nor Warringah are going to grow much larger. It’s useless having an NRL represent such a small area, especially when the area has a very low participation rate and doesn’t produce quality juniors.

        Brookvale Oval is a blight on the game. If any of the prospective NRL franchises dared to say their team would play out of a stadium like Brookvale then their bid would be rejected.

        The NRL needs to stop holding the hand of unprofitable basketcases like the Sea Eagles.

        Throw them out and put another team in Queensland or New Zealand. Get rid of the Roosters too.

        • April 15th 2012 @ 9:54pm
          eagleJack said | April 15th 2012 @ 9:54pm | ! Report

          Mate you sound like an expert in everything.

          I’m all for another team in QLD. But unfortunately for you it won’t come at the expense of Manly. I do worry though that we are about to see the demise of another Gold Coast outfit. And the Crushers failed both on and off the field. We keep hearing about the depth of talent in QLD yet only the Broncos are successful. I’d love to see an Ipswich side and maybe Central QLD but will they work when so many have failed beforehand?

          Manly are here to stay so I’ll send you a supporter pack if you want? I can tell you have a soft spot for them πŸ™‚

          • April 15th 2012 @ 10:28pm
            Queensland's Game is Rugby League said | April 15th 2012 @ 10:28pm | ! Report

            “I do worry though that we are about to see the demise of another Gold Coast outfit”

            The Giants, Gladiators and Seagulls were based in Tweed Heads, NSW. You cannot blame their demise on the Gold Coast. The Chargers made a profit during the Super League war. The ARL sacrificed them because they didn’t want to axe another Sydney club. That’s a fact.

            “And the Crushers failed both on and off the field.”

            The team was put together at the 23rd hour. One of the blokes who’s running the Bombers bid reckons the Crushers had sponsors willing to support them. The NRL axed them because the rationalisation agreement meant the competition had to be reduced from 22 clubs to 14. There was no way they were going to keep get rid of any more Sydney-based clubs to save a 3-year-old Queensland club.

            “We keep hearing about the depth of talent in QLD yet only the Broncos are successful.”

            ROTFLMAO!

            If the Cowboys retained their juniors then they would be the most dominant force in the NRL. Players like Billy Slater, Nate Myles, Sam Thaiday, Josh Hoffman, Ben Barba, Daly Cherry-Evans and many more are products from north and central Queensland. The Cowboys overlooked all of them, including Cherry-Evans (his father was a recruitment manager at the club when he was going through the ranks).

            How many born-and-bred juniors are playing for Manly?

            Their team is based around Ballen, Cherry-Evans, Foran and Brett Stewart. The first 2 are Queenslanders. Foran is a Kiwi and Stewart is from the Illawarra region. Take them out of the team and Manly wouldn’t make the top 8.

            • April 16th 2012 @ 6:30am
              oikee said | April 16th 2012 @ 6:30am | ! Report

              Dave Taylor and many more, now lets look at Manly’s juniors. Parramatta. πŸ™‚

              A 11 thousand crowd tells me one thing, on a perfect night at a beachside club, people are voting with their feet, and the fight night at Manly has turned alot of People off. Trust me, who wants to take their kids to a club that had one Stewart drunk and fighting with the CEO, and the other causing a fight , or massive brawl.

              Can anyone in their right mind imagine this going on at the Broncos, in primetime tv on a friday night. ?
              The code would be finished within a year. Mums and Dads dont want to see this garbage.
              Manly fans, your club is mud at the moment, and once you play the Storm this year it is all over, because Toovey will use the same tactics, he is a angry ant.

            • April 16th 2012 @ 7:37am
              eagleJack said | April 16th 2012 @ 7:37am | ! Report

              So are you saying the Cowboys are successful then? Cause failure to keep their juniors is not a reason to suggest that they ‘could’ be successful. If the Dragons kept all of their juniors they would be unstoppable too.

              Sorry nothing you have said here suggests another QLD team would be successful. I’ll focus on my team who will continue to be a force for years to come. I suggest you concentrate on yours.

              • April 16th 2012 @ 11:04pm
                Queensland's Game is Rugby League said | April 16th 2012 @ 11:04pm | ! Report

                “Sorry nothing you have said here suggests another QLD team would be successful. ”

                Then you must be living in denial. The sheer depth of talent coming out of Queensland, which is the point I was trying to get across, proves that a fourth Queensland club wouldn’t have any trouble acquiring a decent roster. Nor would they have any trouble developing their own juniors. One of the keys to being a successful NRL club is having a strong nursery to draw talent from.

                The Queensland Cup is the strongest second-tier competition in the country. The Queensland NRL clubs benefit from it.

                How are Manly going off the field?

    • April 15th 2012 @ 8:49pm
      Nathan of Perth said | April 15th 2012 @ 8:49pm | ! Report

      Brilliant, love it, great job Titans.

      • April 16th 2012 @ 1:03pm
        Bearfax said | April 16th 2012 @ 1:03pm | ! Report

        They played very well and were deserved winners…the bast…rds

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