CAMPO: Rugby in Australia all about size, not skills
By David Campese, 2 May 2012 David Campese is a Roar Expert
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It’s been interesting reading the comments on my recent column about the drop punt style adopted by most modern Super Rugby kickers, with a specialist kicking coach even weighing in with his perspective.
I neglected to mention last week that the reason for raising this debate was that I spoke with the esteemed kicker Tony Brown, who was playing in South Africa, and interestingly, he told me that the drop punt is a much easier kick than the torpedo.
The torpedo actually involves a lot of skill and runs a much lower risk of being charged down by an opponent.
And this, to me, highlights a key difference between the rugby of the past and the modern game.
These days, there seems to be little focus on the skill of the game.
In my playing days, we would spend a lot of time on areas of the game which are now not considered important. Our focus and training revolved mainly around attack, kicking, and skills.
The coaches I speak to now confirm that the focus is mainly on defence and a minor part is attack and skills.
The players are all physically massive and thrive on bashing into each other and running over each other rather than using skill to beat their man or execute on a simple backline play to put the defense in two minds.
When was the last time you saw the wingers get the ball one on one or see the attack try something different? When was the last time you saw a simple loop play executed by an Australian side or a dummy switch or dummy?
Coaches are trying to control the game from the grandstands. And kicking is just the start.
That is why NSW are still finding it hard to come out on top in tight games as players in key positions are just not up to it.
To me, this shows that all the training and preparation they do is not the answer.
I spend a lot of time these days coaching kids at Academies in Hong Kong and South Africa (not in Australia) and I always teach the kids how to do both a spiral pass and a lateral pass, and how to kick torpedo and drop punts.
You must give them options.
I also coach kids to run and back themselves and not just kick at all costs. Starting at the grassroots level, we can influence their mentality and encourage natural instinct and creative flair.
These are just basic skills in rugby. But they are tragically neglected at the highest levels of the game in Australia.
NSW were right in it at the death of their match against the Crusaders, with an opportunity to unleash a hefty torpedo kick down the ground from a penalty and position themselves for a final assault on the Crusaders line.
But where are the risk takers? Coaches don’t like them because they can’t control them!
So what happens? A drop punt that picks up some twenty metres. This is when the player should really back himself with the bigger kick, but instead, he took the easy, and safe, way out.
As I noted last week, this is a direct result of the impact of league philosophies and training techniques on the rugby world. Decoy runners are now a big part of the game, which is a waste of players putting pressure on the other team.
In league, it’s all about retaining possession. Then they kick it away. Simple is good.
Rugby teams don’t want to put the ball into space. Yet, when they do, great things can happen.
Look at the Cheetahs and Highlanders game, when the Highlanders scored several late tries. They backed themselves. That’s what it should be about.
Rather than run at the gaps, or use the ball to create weaknesses in the defence, players just steamroll each other.
It’s become a battle of the bulk, and everyone, from the fans to the players themselves, are ultimately losing.
So that’s my view. What’s yours? Oh, and this week Brumbies vs Waratahs, my prediction is: Kick, kick, kick, and poorly.
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May 2nd 2012 @ 2:46am
Manoa said | May 2nd 2012 @ 2:46am | Report comment
I hope they kick the absolute leather off it in Canberra. It would be great to see rugby played the way it was back in your Campo. Then in 10 years time we can all gather for a reunion and talk about what a great game it was and how they attacked from everywhere and rarely kicked. Time, time changes everything,
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May 2nd 2012 @ 7:04am
sheek said | May 2nd 2012 @ 7:04am | Report comment
Manoa,
You really don’t get it, do you……….?
May 2nd 2012 @ 3:46am
Darcy said | May 2nd 2012 @ 3:46am | Report comment
Have a look at what Joe Schmidt is doing with Leinster…On arrival Schmidt vowed to make Leinster the best passing side in the Northern Hemisphere…Leinster are by far and away the most skillful side in the Northern hemisphere and are able to execute far better than anyone else.
May 2nd 2012 @ 10:26pm
Banger said | May 2nd 2012 @ 10:26pm | Report comment
Healy’s try on the weekend was a thing of beauty
May 2nd 2012 @ 3:54am
kingplaymaker said | May 2nd 2012 @ 3:54am | Report comment
There are few coaches who come up with statements about what the game could should be, and indeed few within rugby who do so. Surely it’s owrth taking some time to ask, could the game be played more effectively? And where are we getting out model of what an effective way of playing the game?
It would seem most of the time this is not the case.
May 2nd 2012 @ 5:28am
mania said | May 2nd 2012 @ 5:28am | Report comment
again agreeing with u here campo. the drop punt is easier and to control a game learning a tight defense is easier than teaching a creative attack. coaches have way to much control and spend sessions on how the can control the game more instead of teaching the players how to think for themselves.
how will this turn out? look at gridiron. the coach has total control, he’s miked up to the quartback and the defensive captain. tells them every move and formation. looking further into the NFL you see the coaches (subconciously) have all adopted a safe percentage gridiron mentality. 3rd and 1 yard to go instead of trying to get that 1 yard and get a reset on downs they’ll kick downfield for position and hope that the defence can hold them down there for the oppostion to kick it down field on the 3rd. its repetitive and boring. when a team does go for it on the 4th down when they fail every coach, player fan is saying i told u so.
May 2nd 2012 @ 8:58am
Sharminator said | May 2nd 2012 @ 8:58am | Report comment
I agree with Campo and with your NFL comparison Mania.
In the NFL, because of the huge amounts of money involved, coaches simply do not take risks, and play has become very robotic.
Consquently many Americans prefer college american football, where up and coming coaches take risks to try and win and get a name for themselves.
I think a similar thing has happened in rugby .. although the amounts of money are not as big, coaches are afraid of risk and choose big players, bash it up rugby and kick, and concentrate on defence rather than attack or innovation.
May 2nd 2012 @ 9:42am
mania said | May 2nd 2012 @ 9:42am | Report comment
also the similar path rugby is following is player size and a focus on physicality over intelligence. if your not over 6 foot then you you’ll have a hard time making it in the NFL. emmettSmith struggled to make the big time because he was so small. no one actually bothered to check the size of his heart. cowboys saw something in him and decided to take a chance. the rest is history
alot of posters here point out the attributes of big strong fast players (eg fruean) but overlook the smaller smarter players (eg conrad smith).
brains beats brawn everyday of the week. if i had to choose between a big strong player vs a smart player i’d go for the latter. the smarter player has much more potential because they arent limited y the physical. smarter players also can think their way out of trouble when bashing your way out isnt working
May 2nd 2012 @ 10:23am
RebelRanger said | May 2nd 2012 @ 10:23am | Report comment
I agree brains over brawn. I would also have Conrad over Fruean at this stage. But imagine giving brains to brawn, that would be my approach. My example would be Tana Umaga in his prime.
May 2nd 2012 @ 10:34am
mania said | May 2nd 2012 @ 10:34am | Report comment
thats my point RR. Fruean should’ve stayed at canes and been mentored by conrad. can u imagine it? Fruens physicality with conrads brains and work rate. WOW
May 2nd 2012 @ 11:07am
RebelRanger said | May 2nd 2012 @ 11:07am | Report comment
I think Fruean needed to go somewhere he could start. Not only to develop as a player but to get some starting player money. True he might have benefitted being mentored by C.Smith but he can’t have waited for him to retire. I can see why he left.
May 2nd 2012 @ 1:28pm
Blinky Bill of Bellingen said | May 2nd 2012 @ 1:28pm | Report comment
There seems to be an inference that Fruean is all brawn and no brains.
Maybe he’s not all brawn at all.
May 2nd 2012 @ 3:10pm
RebelRanger said | May 2nd 2012 @ 3:10pm | Report comment
Blinky,
Frueans defensive mistakes I put down to misreads (which indicate inferior ‘brains’).
Oh he’s definitely brawn. He’s my 13 prototype. Big and fast with a lot of offensive weapons (sidestep, fend, ability to run over guys, offload, sufficient passing skills and willingness to chip/ grubber past would be defenders).
Plus the guy has a heart condition yet is a better athlete than almost every super rugby player. Proves he is a hard worker, should be one for the future.
May 2nd 2012 @ 4:44pm
dcnz said | May 2nd 2012 @ 4:44pm | Report comment
Robbie F said after the match there are a lot of subtleties at play in a game and he is working on that.
Or you could just zero in on Tom Carter and run over or around him….sorry that was a bit low.
May 2nd 2012 @ 9:13pm
Altus said | May 2nd 2012 @ 9:13pm | Report comment
What are you talking about.
The NFL has never been as attacking as it was last season. Of the 5 quarterbacks in history with seasons of 5000 yards passing, three happened last year and another QB had more than 4900.
The NFL has its problems, but coaches not taking risks isnt one of them.
May 3rd 2012 @ 3:30am
Sharminator said | May 3rd 2012 @ 3:30am | Report comment
Watch some U.S. College football and you will see the difference .. they try moves with lateral passes, recievers also passing the ball, running on the last down. etc. Things you dont see in the NFL because it is considered too risky.
May 4th 2012 @ 2:14am
Altus said | May 4th 2012 @ 2:14am | Report comment
I do watch College football and it is entertaining.
It is also entertaining for the same reason that rugby was entertaining in the 80s. The defence cant be compared to the NFL. It is one of the reason why some QBs with stellar College careers can’t make the grade in the NFL. It will be very interesting to see if Heismann winner RG3 makes the grade at the Redskins
May 2nd 2012 @ 5:33am
BennO said | May 2nd 2012 @ 5:33am | Report comment
Well look, I dunno Campo. It’s hard because I can think of examples where there have been great sequences of passing (the opening 30 seconds of the tahs v rebels a week or so ago is one) but the idea that it’s all size doesn’t stack up to me. Granted I haven’t been able to watch too much rugby this season but let’s face it, there aren’t too many big boppers in the current wallaby backline who are there to steamroll the opposition. Ioane, the one player who could be accused of being big, is known for his evasive running not steamrolling.
You ask where are the risk takers…if Beale and Cooper aren’t taking enough risks for you then I don’t know if anyone ever will. It’s absolutely true that the game plan for the RWC was boring and risk free. No argument from me, it was very disappointing. But there are at least these two risk takers in the game, one is out injured and one seems to be playing behind a beaten forward pack, but they’re there and they’re rewarded for playing that way when they can.
May 2nd 2012 @ 9:38am
RebelRanger said | May 2nd 2012 @ 9:38am | Report comment
Kurtley Beale chipping the ball every chance he gets ins’t taking a risk its stupid. I hate JOC but I would say he takes more chances than Beale. Though he’s a ‘look-at-me’ type of player. Beale has been very dissappointing this year.
May 2nd 2012 @ 1:35pm
Blinky Bill of Bellingen said | May 2nd 2012 @ 1:35pm | Report comment
I feel likewise about Beale but maybe that’s because he defected from the Tahs.
In fairness to him, I reckon he may just come good with some more game time. However he needs others around him that can make a difference. Otherwise he seems to feel the need to try and do it all himself. Now with JOC out that could go into hyperdrive.
But I have to agree that his bloody chip kick, while it’s probably okay at club level, is a dud of an idea at Super level and fatal in Wallaby colours.
May 2nd 2012 @ 6:38am
Hugo Verne said | May 2nd 2012 @ 6:38am | Report comment
Campo, there are players who are just as diminutive today as they were in your playing days.
The difference is that your old halfback, NF-Jones, or Mark Ella, didn’t work out in the gym on upper body strength and small guys like
Will Genia and JOC do because that’s the modern way. I would have thought your pet peeve (still hate cats?) would be kickers who leave the ball infield on a penalty. It makes me throw my shoes at the screen. You see it again and again any weekend, and what type of kick are they using? A DP. If they went to a torpedo, as you recommend, and were willing to settle for 35 meters instead of trying for 50, a lot more possession would be retained and I could leave my sneakers on. With the unpressured time a penalty gives him a kicker can launch a torpedo accurately, and it will sail over any opposition players on the sideline well into touch. Not only Tony Brown thinks a DP is more accurate – so does DC and Wilko. But if you a good kicker, and a team’s kicker is supposed to be something of an expert, you’ll know how to give a torpedo a long, straight ride.
May 2nd 2012 @ 7:33am
kingplaymaker said | May 2nd 2012 @ 7:33am | Report comment
Hugo but look at centres for example. Matt Tait in England was considered too small to be a centre at 90kg despite being a brilliant runner, and his career has effectively come to a close because of it. Wales fielded a monstrous backline this year, the two wings giants, while even large backrow forwards are often considered lacking physicality compared to even more massive rivals.
May 2nd 2012 @ 9:29am
Rugby Diehard said | May 2nd 2012 @ 9:29am | Report comment
Hugo – I couldn’t disagree with you more. I get so frustrated by kickers taking the easy 25 m kick rather than going all out for 50 or 60m. The difference was perfectly highlighted by a mark Gerard kick for the rebels from about 45m out the other day. He went all out achieved a 5m line out from which the rebels scored. Sorry cant remember if this was waratahs or blues game!
May 2nd 2012 @ 12:11pm
sittingbison said | May 2nd 2012 @ 12:11pm | Report comment
AND IT IS SO FRUSTRATION AT THE FORCE – WITHOUT SHEP, THE FIELD KICKING BY HARVEY HAS BEEN POP GUN 10M GAINS
OOPS SORRY FOR CAPS
May 2nd 2012 @ 6:53am
Tradegen said | May 2nd 2012 @ 6:53am | Report comment
Too true Campo, I have never quite understood how professional players these days, players who actually get paid to play the game have less skills than their counterparts from yesteryear.
May 2nd 2012 @ 7:25am
Demers said | May 2nd 2012 @ 7:25am | Report comment
Last weekend – in either the Brumbies or the Tahs game I forget which – somebody with a perfect chance kicked ahead but they used
a drop punt and when the ball landed it took a crazy hop backwards and negated a chance at a try. Had the kick been a torpedo the ball would have rolled forward and the try would have been on. Come on S15, go to a spiral kick when it’s called for and stop being so reliant on the DP.
May 2nd 2012 @ 7:37am
Jack said | May 2nd 2012 @ 7:37am | Report comment
There was a simple loop play executed by the Brumbies to score a try last weekend. The problem with the drop punt is that Australian Rugby players cannot actually execute it. AFL players can kick 60 m + drop punts. It’s technique not the kick. Straight and high follow through not around the corner with a short follow through. And Campo you played in an amateur era when players were not as fit and tackling technique was less effective and defensive lines less disciplined. Back in the day the backs ran through holes, now they have to make them. Campo you defense was suspect back in your day. Now it wouldn’t be good enough for a test player.
May 2nd 2012 @ 8:48am
Bakkies said | May 2nd 2012 @ 8:48am | Report comment
The AFL players kick accurate drop punts off long run ups which is not possible in Rugby. I couldn’t imagine kicking a drop punt for distance off more than one or two steps without the risk of a charge down. AFL players kick at a target up the field whether it’s the goal or their team mate. In Rugby if you do that it goes straight to the opposition. You have to kick it out or in to space. Mark Gerrard and Huxley use different techniques and are very accurate compared to the lesser experienced Australian players.
”Decoy runners are now a big part of the game, which is a waste of players putting pressure on the other team.”
The Brumbies and Wallabies used to use them to good effect. It would be hypocritical of Deans to go down that path as he was very vocal against the Brumbies using them
May 2nd 2012 @ 12:12pm
sittingbison said | May 2nd 2012 @ 12:12pm | Report comment
and footies are much heavier than modern rubgy balls that feel like ballons in comparison
May 2nd 2012 @ 7:42am
BennO said | May 2nd 2012 @ 7:42am | Report comment
OK here is a highlights vid that I think illustrates that Campo is wrong when he says the basic skills are neglected at the top. O’Connor from 2011 alone. Some seriously good passing (lateral and spiral from many wallabies), running of all types (evasive, straight up at em and one on ones on the flanks), risks being taken by many players (running from all parts of the field).
That’s focused on one guy from one (very up and down) season but the skills are there. You could probably find just as long a video of lowlights (dropped balls, missed tackles, bad kicks etc), but the fact is we have some very skillful small bodied risk taking attacking players in Australian rugby at the moment. I’m sure there could be improvements in skills like kicking etc, but I think what this comes down to is a case of people seeing what they want to see.
Speaking across Australian rugby in general over the past few years (not the Waratahs on the weekend just gone) I see a lot of skillful backs playing an exciting brand of running rugby behind forward packs that do not dominate the opposition and in my, probably uninformed opinion, that second point is where the main problem is.
May 2nd 2012 @ 11:34am
stillmissit said | May 2nd 2012 @ 11:34am | Report comment
Benno – please review your video there are passes going in front of O’Connor and there is rarely a player running onto the ball they are hesitating to get it.
Skills are not the same. If it was not for the freakish NATURAL skills of O’Connor both of those attacks would have broken down much earlier.
Teach the guys to pass before they go to the gym, once they have all the skill then look at their weight for position.
May 2nd 2012 @ 1:01pm
BennO said | May 2nd 2012 @ 1:01pm | Report comment
stillmissit, I’m not sure what video you watched when you say “both of those attacks”, there were probably 15 attacks in that video. As for players running onto the ball…rarely? I dunno how you define running onto the ball but I saw heaps of examples of it in that video. I mean the vast majority of passes had players running onto the ball, and a large majority of them seemed right out in front of the player. I dunno, I’m really not sure what you mean.
May 2nd 2012 @ 1:32pm
Jiggles said | May 2nd 2012 @ 1:32pm | Report comment
Such a skillful player with great strength, look how he dumps Spies. I still think he is the go at 12.
May 2nd 2012 @ 3:28pm
BennO said | May 2nd 2012 @ 3:28pm | Report comment
He’s pretty strong that’s for sure. Just a shame he can’t catch and pass
May 2nd 2012 @ 4:53pm
Jutsy said | May 2nd 2012 @ 4:53pm | Report comment
I don’t know, I was in the “o’connor at 12″ camp too last year believing he was strong enough to handle the defensive side. However after watching him at the rebels this year I’ve noted that whilst he is physically capable I don’t know if he reads the play well enough to handle the 12 position in defence. Maybe with a few more S15 seasons of consistently playing 10 or 12 under his belt he will learn to read the play better, but atm he is not my first choice at 12 for the wallabies.
May 2nd 2012 @ 5:12pm
sittingbison said | May 2nd 2012 @ 5:12pm | Report comment
He seems to have gone backwards since becoming a brand. When he started at the force as a kid he was tenacious, and then got better with age and strength increases. Then as last season wore on he became less involved in the hard yards as his brand developed, to the point of demanding KPIs in his new contract. I also felt his hard yakka went missing in the Wallavies late last year as well.
May 2nd 2012 @ 5:26pm
Jutsy said | May 2nd 2012 @ 5:26pm | Report comment
Do not agree with that comment at all. He was the only wallaby back in 2011 that was a consistent threat on attack and along with mccabe was a rock in defence (as can be seen in highlights package BennO posted above).
All this negative flak he still cops from force supporters is hypocrtical considering they were happy to take genia from the reds.
From my view point O’connor is has been excellent in attack at the rebs but there is extra pressure on him as he has been the only class back in the team for the majority of the year due to beale’s injuries.
His defensive issues have been more to do with learning the defensive aspects of a new position and less to do with “putting in the hard yards”. It doesn’t help that he has the added pressure of being outside turnstile cipriani in defence.
If you doubt his toughness and commitment just look at the footage of how he got his current injury. Running into front on traffic with eyes only for the ball and not a single concern for his own well being. He even tried to stay on the field after the incident.
May 2nd 2012 @ 6:40pm
sittingbison said | May 2nd 2012 @ 6:40pm | Report comment
nothing hypocritical about copping it from Force supporters Jutsy, he dicked us around all year with his comments then came up with the notorious KPIs AFTER agreeing to the contact put forward by the management. OTOH Genias camp has clearly intimated he was chasing filthy lucre, thought by all to mean overseas, and the Force fiasco came out of the blue (so to speak hehe) for all concerned. No “brand” or “improving my rugby” or “going to a rugby culture” or “coaching premiership players instead of a bunch of useless hacks” like we have been dished up, just plain old “show me the money”.
Never disputed his attacking intent or prowess, it is the hard yards in getting back in defence and putting in the tackles. This was patently missing in his last half season at the Force. And why Deans chose to play McCabe and not Judas at 12 up to and including the RWC. His attitude sucked big time, but he is a very young man and we all secretly hoped this phase would pass and he would mature. Hopefully he will now, especially now Cipriani is gone.
May 2nd 2012 @ 6:55pm
Jutsy said | May 2nd 2012 @ 6:55pm | Report comment
As you said Sittingbison his a young bloke, I’d like to give him the benefit of the doubt and suggest that it was poor PR advice he received from his management team that lead him to the “brand/KPI” fiasco.
I didnt watch many force games last year (their style doesn’t attract me) so I can’t comment on how he played for the force and agree his attitude of the field left a little wanting but I believe the embarrasment he suffered after team announcement saga gave him the shakeup he required and I can’t fault his endevour during the world cup. I think he did all that was required of him in defence and was our only reliable source of attacking inspiration. IMO he put in the hard yards in every game he played during the tournament. Especially in the quarter final where he was used as a battering ram on numerous occasions close to the breakdown despite his size.
I guess I am a wallaby supporter first and super 15 supporter second so I dont have an issue with players jumping from one aus team to another. On a side note I agree with you regarding the poor form of QRU in regards to sabotaging the genia/force deal and also in poaching graham but I think the graham saga is a win for you guys.
May 2nd 2012 @ 6:50pm
matthew said | May 2nd 2012 @ 6:50pm | Report comment
Anyone and everyone dumps Spies. He’s a hopeless player for such a big man.