Who missed out on NSW State of Origin selection
By Ryan O'Connell, 15 May 2012 Ryan O'Connell is a Roar Expert
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Tim Mannah and Jamie Soward missed out for NSW Origin game 1 selection (AAP Image/Dean Lewins)
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It seemed like there were a thousand players mentioned as potential New South Wales Origin selections this year, but considering only 17 players can be named, it meant that there were a lot of disappointed players on Sunday afternoon.
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Here we comb through the wreckage and analyse those players that missed out on selection for Origin 1 on May 23rd:
Anthony Watmough:
Whilst he has tendency to ‘crab’ across the park at times, Watmough’s toughness, leg power and passion would have been vital weapons in the Blues armoury.
He’s a strong, hard player, and NSW were counting on him to create impact on the Maroons in both attack and defence. Sadly, a telephone call with Ricky Stuart indicated he won’t be able to train before Origin 1, and he was effectively ruled out. He’ll be back for game two, one would think.
Ryan Hinchcliffe:
A versatile player and excellent defender, Hinchcliffe may have been a bolter in some people’s minds, but I think it would have been an astute selection. If anyone is in a position to know what Cam Smith, Billy Slater and Cooper Cronk are likely to do, it’s their Melbourne teammate. Of course, knowing what they’re going to do, and actually stopping it, are two totally different things.
But Hinchcliffe is a good player in his own right, and I would have had him as the starting hooker, or utility bench player, if one was required.
Brett Morris:
After a scintillating start to the season at fullback for the Dragons, Morris has tapered off a touch in recent weeks. However, his early season form, pace, and ability to finish, means he was pretty unlucky to miss out on selection, even accounting for his mistakes in last year’s series.
Michael Weyman:
He’s been one of the form props of the competition, and I think he’s performed better this year than Dragons teammate Trent Merrin. However, it was his fellow prop that heard his name called out, leaving Weyman to wonder what else he could have done to be selected. I would have picked him.
Josh Dugan:
Even when the enigmatic Canberra Raiders fullback is fully fit, he’s a risky selection due to his gambling instincts in attack, and occasionally poor defensive positioning. But picking Dugan when he’s less than 100 percent healthy and not in great from is beyond risky.
There is no question he’s a match winner, but selecting him could have back-fired dramatically in Ricky Stuart’s face.
Tariq Sims:
Sims was actually mentioned as a bolter for last year’s series, but this year his selection should have been automatic in my eyes. His physique and mentality are well suited to Origin football, and he would have been the perfect impact player off the bench, eager to get on the field and make his presence felt.
It’s a baffling decision to overlook Sims. Especially for Tony Williams, who won’t have played for nine weeks.
Tim Mannah:
If you’re going to select a player from the worst team in the competition – a team that is dominated every week – then said player better be setting the world on fire. Can that really be said about Mannah?
Losing is contagious, yet the Blues had already selected far too many players from sides that have been struggling, and couldn’t really afford another one infecting the NSW camp.
Anthony Minichello:
The Count was sensational in game two last year when he received a surprise call-up to the NSW team. Playing under questionable health, he had a poor game three, but he was hardly alone there.
He’s been solid for the Roosters again this year, and would be somewhat of a safe option for the Blues. But after six straight series loss, can NSW really afford to play it safe?
Michael Ennis:
Whilst his toughness and ability to get under opponents skins have been well documented, players should be picked on their form first and foremost, of which Ennis has been well down this year.
He’s also cost the Blues dearly in the past with some dumb plays and penalties, so it wasn’t a complete shock to see the Blues go with Farah.
Jamal Idris:
Yes, he’s a big boy. Yes, Queensland would prefer not to tackle him. But he simply hasn’t done enough this season to force his way into the side. His selection would be merely rewarding mediocrity. Of course, you could argue that that should have made him an automatic selection this year…
Jamie Soward:
He was solid for the Blues last year, and his kicking game is absolutely brilliant. It’s a skill that you can build a game plan around. But Carney adds a more dynamic flavour at 6, and after years of losing, NSW need to roll the dice. That’s not quite Soward’s game.
Chris Lawrence:
Lawrence has been far below his best this season, and whilst the campaign for him to be selected gained momentum over the last couple of weeks, I think it’s a wise decision to leave him out when he’s not in great form.
It’s one thing to select Origin veterans when they’re not setting the world on fire, but selecting a debutant who is out of form is asking a lot, and setting a youngster up to fail.
James Maloney:
Maloney was close to a shoe-in for selection just six weeks ago, but some alarming missed tackle statistics, and the logjam for the number 6 Blues jersey, meant that Maloney justifiably fell from grace and down the pecking order.
Josh Reynolds:
His selection would have classified him as a real bolter. He’s been in great form for the Bulldogs, and has a lot of skills and versatility in his game. But considering Farah and the halves should all play 80 minute, what exactly would Reynolds’ role have been?
Aaron Woods:
His selection would have been a case of leading lambs to the slaughter. Woods is young and inexperienced, and struggled early in the year for the Tigers.
Whilst he’s been impressive of late, it’s worth noting that the three teams the Tigers have beaten in recent weeks are the three teams at the bottom of the ladder. To say Queensland would have been a tougher proposition is the understatement of the year.
Jarrod Mullen:
The Knights half was right in contention for an Origin berth, but his form has fallen away and he was completely over-shadowed in the City vs Country match, effectively ending his chances of being selected.
Beau Scott:
Can the fans asking why Beau Scott was not selected really be labelled fans? The Dragons forward was ruled out after he dislocated his elbow; an injury I’m reliably informed is one of the most painful you can endure.
Ryan is an ex-representative basketballer who shot too much, and a (very) medium pace bowler. He's been with The Roar as an expert since February 2011, has written for the Seven Network and NBA Down Under, and been a regular on ABC radio. Ryan tweets from @RyanOak.
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May 15th 2012 @ 5:55am
Tony said | May 15th 2012 @ 5:55am | Report comment
Tell you what “Tricky Ricky” is doing the same as the other coaches who coached N.S.W…
The revolving door…. No Watmough,Morris,Lawrence?
Puts in Jennings and Hayne
wot the?
Off his Head ! maybe I will take up supporting Maroon’s!!!!!!
May 15th 2012 @ 7:38am
A1 said | May 15th 2012 @ 7:38am | Report comment
Your post doesn’t make any sense. Watmough is injured. Lawrence has never played Origin. Hayne and Jennings played last year. How is that a revolving door?
May 15th 2012 @ 7:57am
Tony said | May 15th 2012 @ 7:57am | Report comment
G/day A!
your right mate I did stuff that up
but I still think Watmough would
still get up and play in a second
given a chance like Matty John’s
was saying this morning on Triple M
when Tallis saw Watmough didn’t make the team, Queensland
would have breathed a sigh of relief..
With Lawrence,when he play’s for Australia
he plays well, why not give him a chance surely he try’s harder than Jennings
May 15th 2012 @ 8:03am
A1 said | May 15th 2012 @ 8:03am | Report comment
I agree with you about Watmough. Who cares if he can’t train until next week? His job would be pretty simple, just run hard and smash them in defense. He wouldn’t have let us down.
May 15th 2012 @ 11:56am
planko said | May 15th 2012 @ 11:56am | Report comment
A1 maybe he cant train this week but I bet he plays for Manly this weekend ?
May 15th 2012 @ 7:30pm
bree said | May 15th 2012 @ 7:30pm | Report comment
Yeah , where is jarred! ?? :O
May 17th 2012 @ 7:30pm
David said | May 17th 2012 @ 7:30pm | Report comment
Well your not a true blues supporter and N.S.W will win you will eat your words
May 15th 2012 @ 6:16am
BennO said | May 15th 2012 @ 6:16am | Report comment
No one seems to have discussed a halves pairing of Carney and Soward. Or am I deluding myself that it would work?
May 15th 2012 @ 9:15am
Charles said | May 15th 2012 @ 9:15am | Report comment
BennO, I had Soward and Carney paired at one stage as I feel they have a lot to offer as a duo
However the only blemish in Soward’s game is that he does not take on the defence line enough
Until he does that he will never be selected again and that is a shame as he is potentially one of the best 5/8 ever
NSW certainly will miss his kicking game but I guess Hayne will do some of tht
May 15th 2012 @ 9:36am
BennO said | May 15th 2012 @ 9:36am | Report comment
Yeah that’s what I thought but I figured his kicking game would be offset by Carney’s attacking game. Just rely on Carney to take it to the line. Then if by chance Soward did take it to the line there would be an element of surprise. But I guess he isn’t going to learn that in an origin camp if he won’t do it week in week out.
May 15th 2012 @ 10:18am
Charles said | May 15th 2012 @ 10:18am | Report comment
Yes BennO that wold have worked well, similar to the way Hornby & Soward play!
I think Ricky Stuart was unfair to Jamie Soward as he did not give him the opportunity in the country game to make ammends and really show what he has to offer. In hindsight Ricky Stuart did some damage there as he put Jarrod Hayne in at 5/8 which denied Jamie the opportunity, then he sticks him on the wing.. This undermined the confidence of both players. It is any wonder more players are stepping down from representative football for NSW!
May 15th 2012 @ 11:40am
Ryan O'Connell said | May 15th 2012 @ 11:40am | Report comment
BennO, that could definitely work. Soward’s kicking game is sensational, and Carney can supply the x-factor.
Having said that, the fact Soward didn’t play last night probably indicates that he may not have been fit anyway.
May 15th 2012 @ 3:23pm
BennO said | May 15th 2012 @ 3:23pm | Report comment
Ah I see. Well if it’s not good enough for Watmough, it’s definitely not gonna be good enough for Soward.
May 15th 2012 @ 7:33am
The Greatest Game Of All said | May 15th 2012 @ 7:33am | Report comment
It’s a decent side, plenty of strike power but alot questions will be asked of their defense, if everybody does their job and plays to their full potential, anythings possible. IMO Carney has to get man of the series for NSW to win.
What’s done is done, time for NSW to do what QLD does, get behind their team 100%.
May 15th 2012 @ 11:41am
Ryan O'Connell said | May 15th 2012 @ 11:41am | Report comment
I agree, Greatest.
You’re never going to please everybody, as everyone has their own subjective opinion on who should be in the team. But the players have been selected, and now it’s time for NSW to get behind their team.
May 15th 2012 @ 12:45pm
Mango Jack said | May 15th 2012 @ 12:45pm | Report comment
Man of the Series to an origin debutant? No pressure, Todd!
May 15th 2012 @ 2:06pm
The Greatest Game Of All said | May 15th 2012 @ 2:06pm | Report comment
Played Test football, Grand Final, Dally M, plenty of Man of the matches, has everything Thurstons got, NSW’s go-to man. Are you saying he’s not up to it?
May 15th 2012 @ 2:21pm
planko said | May 15th 2012 @ 2:21pm | Report comment
He has urinated on People , Jumped on there cars , Attempted to flee from police whilst drunk. Been banned from the Goulburn CBD… But he can play football
May 15th 2012 @ 5:12pm
The Greatest Game Of All said | May 15th 2012 @ 5:12pm | Report comment
That too, let’s hope Ricky keeps him away from young Buhrer.
May 16th 2012 @ 11:20pm
Matthew Healey (@beerial4brekky) said | May 16th 2012 @ 11:20pm | Report comment
hahaha that just goes to show he’s not afraid of anything!
May 15th 2012 @ 4:11pm
Mango Jack said | May 15th 2012 @ 4:11pm | Report comment
No, just that it is a big ask of someone who hasn’t played at this level before. And as all origin players say, there is nothing like this level of intensity and speed, less time to think etc. He’s definitely got the talent and is in good form, but everyone seems to be saying that we can’t win unless he’s performing 100%, so I just hope the pressure doesn’t get to him. You can bet the toads will be giving it to him in the opening 10 mins!
May 15th 2012 @ 7:37am
Silvio said | May 15th 2012 @ 7:37am | Report comment
I’m so hoping that I’m wrong but I have a feeling the Blue’s are going to be blown away ……. Look how strong the QLD side is!
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May 15th 2012 @ 7:41am
Andy said | May 15th 2012 @ 7:41am | Report comment
I think the blues will teach Queensland that its not ok to be a Queenslander. With a bit of luck i see NSW winning, they have to put the bomb up and smash Slater all game though.
May 15th 2012 @ 9:23am
Jeff McGinn said | May 15th 2012 @ 9:23am | Report comment
Andy, ‘Smashing Slater’ just gives Queensland penalties, gets em up the field where Thurston can weave his magic, If NSW are going to sand a chance, they have to play a game that will keep the Queensland team in their own half of the field!.
May 15th 2012 @ 1:54pm
planko said | May 15th 2012 @ 1:54pm | Report comment
Slater smash’s people all the time and he is playing … Let’s start the SMASH SLATER website… We can get advertising on it and give 1k to any NRL player that smash’s slater ! If we generate too much money we can start a CAM SMITH site…
May 16th 2012 @ 3:52pm
Chop said | May 16th 2012 @ 3:52pm | Report comment
As much as I’d like to see that happen, after following the NFL and have seen the bounty issues happening to the New Orleans Saints you wouldn’t want to see that happen in the NRL.
May 15th 2012 @ 1:58pm
planko said | May 15th 2012 @ 1:58pm | Report comment
smashslater.com.au Available $ 12.00 Popular
May 15th 2012 @ 10:41am
Charles said | May 15th 2012 @ 10:41am | Report comment
When you have a good look at the NSW players that have missed out and the ones that have been selected, you can honestly say we have not chosen the best side! We need to formulate a team that has players who can play 80 minutes of football, with the desire to put their bodies on the line and can defend as well as attack.
Players like Luke Lewis, Paul Gallen, Greg Bird, Anthony Watmough, Kurt Giddley, Glenn Stewart, Brett Stewart, Anthony Minichiello, Mark Minichiello and Ryan Hoffman are some of the players that come to mind who you can depend on that will give their best and are reliable.
Once that is established who fits the criteria you can make a team around them adding players who will add value such as Todd Carney for example. Players like Lewis, Bird, Giddley can fit into the halves, hooker whatever they are so versatile, if need be!
The point I am making we need much more strength in our team if we are going to take it up to QLD. When you players like Greg Inglis and Dave Taylor running over the top of you, we need players that can put back into them.
To my mind there are too many risk factors in this team for my liking!
May 15th 2012 @ 1:09pm
Renegade said | May 15th 2012 @ 1:09pm | Report comment
All the players you listed made the side bar injury…..and i’m assuming that you made a mistake by putting Mark Minichello in your list.
The starting side is the best side NSW can put on the field…..the bench is the worry, i don’t think there is enough impact on the bench apart from T-Rex.
May 15th 2012 @ 1:46pm
Charles said | May 15th 2012 @ 1:46pm | Report comment
No I did not make a mistake, you missed the point what I was saying in that players I have mentioned will not let you down in both attack an defence and they will go all day.
To add to that list with the quality they have players have to meet criteria. In other words they are the benchmark.
What Ricky Stuart is doing is putting in players that are at risk and hoping they have a starry day, which is not the way to pick a team. If they are not up to it find someone that is even if it is not their regular role!
May 15th 2012 @ 2:09pm
Renegade said | May 15th 2012 @ 2:09pm | Report comment
Then your deluded mate,
There’s enough questioning of the inclusions of Creagh and Buhrer on the bench and your throwing up Mark Minichello?!?
His lucky to have a starting spot at the titans….there is nothing wrong with the starting side.
NSW know what they need to do as enormous of a task it is and they are more than capable of accomplishing it.
May 15th 2012 @ 2:58pm
Charles said | May 15th 2012 @ 2:58pm | Report comment
You are not understanding what I am saying
I was giving an example of the type of players that will give their all
Perhaps he is out of form I never see much of him bar twice and he impressed in those two games
To say someone is deluded just because their opinion differs to yours is an insult
No need for that just debate the issue and not the person thanks
May 15th 2012 @ 3:11pm
Renegade said | May 15th 2012 @ 3:11pm | Report comment
Yep, fair comment mate and i apologize for the deluded slur.
But honestly, Mark minichello was never in the mix and i think your the only person who has mentioned his name for origin.
There are at least 40 better backrowers than Mark Minichello in the NRL
May 15th 2012 @ 3:22pm
Charles said | May 15th 2012 @ 3:22pm | Report comment
Thanks for your grace much appreciated, I guess I should have explained it better!
Perhaps he is not in form, I do not his stats but he did impress me in what I saw.
I agree there are too many backrowers to choose from but he may be one also you could put in the mix. I love the way he runs to the line like his brother does without any fear.
I did not have him in my selections neither I was only trying to make a point.
Another one is Ryan Hoffman who I felt did well in the Country game and there are many more.
I bet we could create a really good team with backrowers and fullbacks
May 15th 2012 @ 7:41am
A1 said | May 15th 2012 @ 7:41am | Report comment
Not picking Sims is stupid. He would be the perfect player off the bench. Surely Hinchecliff is a better utility option than Buhrer. Nsw hasn’t won for 6 years, so if we need to win why wouldn’t you pick Dugan who you called a match winner.
Don’t like the side but I’ve had my whinge. Now I’ll get behind the Blues and support them.
Go the blues!
May 15th 2012 @ 8:11am
eagleJack said | May 15th 2012 @ 8:11am | Report comment
Good analysis Ryan. I would have loved to see Sims off the bench but not at the expense of Williams. T-Rex is a must have. Everytime he touches the ball he attracts 3 or 4 defenders. Donny Singe has worked wonders with players out for long periods of time (Glenn Stewart missing a number of games before winning the Clive Churchill) and he is in no doubt that T-Rex is up to the challenge.
May 15th 2012 @ 8:21am
Tru Blu Baby said | May 15th 2012 @ 8:21am | Report comment
Apart from the obvious star studded starting side the Queensland bench look awesome as well. Tom LL, Watmough, and Sims should be there instead of Bird, Merrin, andCreagh.
May 15th 2012 @ 8:26am
Farmerj said | May 15th 2012 @ 8:26am | Report comment
The game isnt being played this week so who cares if Watmough cant train this week? At least he has match fitness under his belt, unlike T-Rex. Next wednesday Watmough is going to be fit to play and watching from his lounge. Thats bollocks.
May 15th 2012 @ 8:52am
B.A Sports said | May 15th 2012 @ 8:52am | Report comment
Ryan
I agree with all of your points on the players in your article.
Weyman and Sims are the two that should have been in there in my opinion and Hinchcliffe over Buhrer i could have more than justified also.
I will add this on Watmough. Like Ennis he is good for a penalty or two against him and his hands are pretty poor also. He gets his dropped balls called as strips when he is at Brookvale, but out in the middle of an Origin battle field, it will become a 50-50 call. Thats a lot of risk in a game whee field position is precious..
May 15th 2012 @ 8:59am
turbodewd said | May 15th 2012 @ 8:59am | Report comment
“Jamal Idris:
Yes, he’s a big boy. … His selection would be merely rewarding mediocrity…”
Rewarding mediocrity works for Jarryd Hayne – his defensive positioning is downright lazy. He is part of the problem at Parra. Woeful defence when at fullback. Its not a form thing – he flat out is lazy! He has become a myth that few question.
May 15th 2012 @ 9:17am
Ryan O'Connell said | May 15th 2012 @ 9:17am | Report comment
Hence the sentence that followed: ” His selection would be merely rewarding mediocrity. Of course, you could argue that that should have made him an automatic selection this year…