Could Sonny Bill play for the Kiwis this year?
By Ryan O'Connell, 26 Jul 2012 Ryan O'Connell is a Roar Expert
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New Zealand's Sonny Bill Williams celebrates after scoring a try against Ireland(AP Photo/SNPA, John Cowpland)
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At a press conference on Tuesday to promote the October 14 Test Match between Australia and New Zealand, Kiwi head coach Stephen Kearney was asked if Sonny Bill Williams should be allowed to play in the NRL competition next year, considering he may not be available for the World Cup in 2013.
It was tricky question posed at Kearney, but it was his answer that set tongues wagging: “Sonny’s Japanese rugby union contract this year does not start until October 20, so maybe we’ll run him out here.”
At first glance, the wink that accompanied the comment suggested that Kearney was joking.
Yet the reporters at the conference, quite rightfully, wouldn’t let the issue go, and when pressed further, Kearney stated:
“It would be nice to trot him out, wouldn’t it? Nah, nah. I was joking. I don’t have any information. You asked the Sonny Bill question and I just threw that out there. But I might check it out.”
So it seems even Kearney, mid-rebuttal, realised that it’s a topic that is sure to now be raised. And so the question becomes, is it feasible that Sonny Bill Williams could play in the October 14 Test Match in Townsville?
Why not?
As Kearney pointed out, Williams will not have commenced his Japanese rugby contract, and his New Zealand Rugby Union commitments will have also been fulfilled. That essentially means that Sonny Bill will be a free agent, and could therefore technically be ‘signed’ on a short term contract by New Zealand Rugby League.
How short term? Try one game: the October Test Match.
To the best of my knowledge, there would be nothing illegal about the arrangement, and whilst it certainly wouldn’t help Sonny Bill’s reputation of being an athletic mercenary, it would definitely aid promotion of the Test Match.
Considering the Australian Kangaroos poaching of New Zealander James Tamou, the NZRL would love nothing more than to anger their Trans Tasman opponents, and selecting Williams would certainly do that.
It would surely add some spice to the match, and with many pundits claiming international rugby league needs a shot in the arm, I can’t imagine anything else generating more publicity.
Honestly, who cares if it is somewhat of a publicity stunt anyway? It’s not like Joey Johns playing cricket for NSW; Sonny Bill would be a tremendous asset to the Kiwis on the field.
The lead-up to the game would be an avalanche of media, with everyone arguing about the merits of Sonny Bill playing, and the inevitable Australian player’s comments that they don’t care and will aim to ‘smash’ Sonny Bill.
I can hear the criticism and naysayers already, but I honestly can’t see anything wrong with it.
It may be a pipedream, but I encourage the NZRL to give Sonny Bill a call today, and attempt to make it happen.
In fact, the way rugby league’s eligibility laws are these days, maybe Australia should give him a call too?
Ryan is an ex-representative basketballer who shot too much, and a (very) medium pace bowler. He's been with The Roar as an expert since February 2011, has written for the Seven Network, and been a regular on ABC radio. Ryan tweets from @RyanOak.

July 26th 2012 @ 5:48am
Vincent said | July 26th 2012 @ 5:48am | Report comment
The answer to that question is simple: SBWs contract with with Panasonic starts much earlier than Oct 20. The Japanese Top League kicks off on Aug 31 and Panasonic play their first game on Sept 1. Oct 20 is rnd 7. They contracted SBW for the full season, so he would be in preseason training sometime mid-August.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012-13_Top_League
So either Kearney has his dates wrong, or more likely he was trying to draw attention away from other matters such as his sacking from the Eels.
July 26th 2012 @ 7:43am
A1 said | July 26th 2012 @ 7:43am | Report comment
Considering part of Williams Japan deal is time off to box, can we really rule anything out?
July 26th 2012 @ 9:10am
Vincent said | July 26th 2012 @ 9:10am | Report comment
Yes Panasonic are allowing SBW to box during the mid season break in December. Panasonic have a game scheduled for Oct 13th against Yamaha. I think you can rule out leave to play another sport in another country on the day they have a game scheduled.
July 26th 2012 @ 9:26am
eagleJack said | July 26th 2012 @ 9:26am | Report comment
Agreed Vincent. He has already stated that he will be in Japan for the start of the season in September. Leaves for Japan as soon as he finishes his commitments with the Chiefs.
No doubt we will hear endless speculation for an event that will never happen.
July 26th 2012 @ 9:51am
Vincent said | July 26th 2012 @ 9:51am | Report comment
Have to wonder about the sloppy reporting too EJ, 2 mins looking through Google/Wiki etc would have given them the answer to their question. But then they wouldn’t have another SBW headline to fill the back pages and new sites.
July 26th 2012 @ 10:15am
Ryan O'Connell said | July 26th 2012 @ 10:15am | Report comment
Sloppy reporting! HAHA!! Awesome, I love a good sledge!
Vincent, just three things, in reply:
1) I would have hoped the very last sentence gave away the fact that the article was written with tongue firmly in cheek.
2) Via my ‘two minutes of Google/Wiki research’, I couldn’t find an article that definitively said that Sonny Bill will play the full Japanese season
3) If you’re suggesting that Williams would never in a million years play in the Test Match because he always honours his contracts/commitments, I would suggest you do some research yourself!
Thanks for the comment, and loved the sledge! (Honestly!)
July 26th 2012 @ 10:31am
Vincent said | July 26th 2012 @ 10:31am | Report comment
My apologies Ryan, I should have pointed out I was talking about the mainstream media reporting of the story (or non story), those who were actually interviewing Kearney at the press conference. Nothing wrong with your piece and you were merely elaborating on what had already been reported. (unless you were there of course, which would mean the sledge would have to stand).
July 26th 2012 @ 10:40am
Ryan O'Connell said | July 26th 2012 @ 10:40am | Report comment
Don’t you dare apologise, mate! It was a quality sledge!
July 26th 2012 @ 11:05am
Vincent said | July 26th 2012 @ 11:05am | Report comment
No worries, I don’t apologize.
So now that we have established that SBW almost certainly won’t be turning out for the Kiwi’s v ‘Roos test, where does that leave the discussion? I suppose we could debate whether he should (hypothetically) be given the opportunity to play in the oct 13 test.
July 26th 2012 @ 11:19am
Ryan O'Connell said | July 26th 2012 @ 11:19am | Report comment
If his Japanese contract actually did start on Oct 20, I see no reason why he couldn’t play for the Kiwis.
July 26th 2012 @ 11:26am
oikee said | July 26th 2012 @ 11:26am | Report comment
You funny bugger Ryan, mate he is a kiwi, so playing for the Kiwi’s does not seem out of order to me. That is like saying Isreal Falou is not a Queenslander.
ouch.
July 26th 2012 @ 11:31am
Vincent said | July 26th 2012 @ 11:31am | Report comment
What would NZRL policy and regulations stipulate about his appearance for the Kiwis in Oct? Would he even be allowed to play, or would the rules be bent to accommodate him?
July 26th 2012 @ 12:31pm
Ryan O'Connell said | July 26th 2012 @ 12:31pm | Report comment
I think the issue would be breaking Japanese Rugby laws/rules, rather than NZRL regulations.
July 26th 2012 @ 8:41am
steve said | July 26th 2012 @ 8:41am | Report comment
Whilst highly unlikely it’s not unprecedented. In the 2000 rugby league world cup John Devoroux played for Wales whilst playing rugby union.
July 26th 2012 @ 8:45am
GCTiger said | July 26th 2012 @ 8:45am | Report comment
It’s simple. How much money would the Kiwis have to throw at him for the game. We all know what he want’s.
July 26th 2012 @ 9:02am
Go warriors said | July 26th 2012 @ 9:02am | Report comment
I hate to be a party pooper but the answer is quite simply no. SBW will not be playing in the October test because of one simple reason. He has not played a game of RL in 5 years. There is no way on earth he will picked to play the highest level of RL without having a game in 5 years.
He like any other player should start at the bottom, play a couple of NSW cup games, then NRL and then if good enough and only if he deserves it play for the Kiwis. I think he did the same in union. He played club rugby first.
July 26th 2012 @ 9:12am
baldie said | July 26th 2012 @ 9:12am | Report comment
SOO is the highest level of league not internationals.
July 26th 2012 @ 9:38am
Go warriors said | July 26th 2012 @ 9:38am | Report comment
Not for kiwis it isn’t.
July 26th 2012 @ 10:20am
Emric said | July 26th 2012 @ 10:20am | Report comment
apparently it is
July 26th 2012 @ 10:36am
Go warriors said | July 26th 2012 @ 10:36am | Report comment
State of origin is irrelevant for Kiwis well it should be anywhere. Playing the Kangaroos is the toughest challenge for any Kiwi playing RL.
July 26th 2012 @ 12:12pm
Emric said | July 26th 2012 @ 12:12pm | Report comment
Unfortunately the Kiwis reliance on Australian League has created a situation where most of the best kiwis get a very simple choice SOO or country a lot are jumping ship.
New Zealand League needs to stop relying on Australia and build its own internal competition
July 26th 2012 @ 2:42pm
D Maaga said | July 26th 2012 @ 2:42pm | Report comment
i totally agree with you there go warriors about sbw need to start from bottom and fight his way up but please don’t make rugby league look like you need a whole year to learn it to play. some converts have don’t need five years to learn the simple rules in rugby league and as a former league player sbw will walk into any nrl team hands down. if willie mason can do it so sbw will have no problems.
July 26th 2012 @ 2:50pm
samsonite said | July 26th 2012 @ 2:50pm | Report comment
There is not the financial support for a league to equal the NRL in NZ, similarly just look at the provincial rugby ITM cup where there is a number of unions teetering on the bread line and constantly require handouts.
Only a handful of ‘kiwis’ to date want to play SOO, by far the minority.
July 27th 2012 @ 12:58am
D Maaga said | July 27th 2012 @ 12:58am | Report comment
samsonite, the majority of the nrl clubs will all be lining up on the breadline and require handouts if it wasn’t for the nrl handouts and those with millionaires backing.
July 26th 2012 @ 9:04am
WQ said | July 26th 2012 @ 9:04am | Report comment
Ryan, you took the words right out of my mouth.
I was just thinking while reading your article, what about if Australia called him!
Besides all of the jokes, there is nothing concrete about him playing Rugby League yet I don’t believe. Whilst there are all the rumors and a statement by SBW that he has a handshake agreement with somebody, to date there is nothing concrete.
Who knows??
July 26th 2012 @ 10:47am
Pot Stirrer said | July 26th 2012 @ 10:47am | Report comment
If he’s eligble and the Kiwis want him then i say Yes. The Kiwis need all the help they can get and untill they learn to play with the same intensity that NSW & QLD do in Origin they will always be 2 steps behind. Maybe SBW can give them that intensity.
July 26th 2012 @ 10:53am
Nafe said | July 26th 2012 @ 10:53am | Report comment
It has been over 2 years since he played Rugby League for NZ and I am sure he played a Senior game in NSW so may qualify for NSW State of Origin team and Australia if he so chooses. Why would he choose to play for NZ in Rugby League when he can m,ake more money playing for Australia and State of Origin.
July 26th 2012 @ 11:22am
kevin mac said | July 26th 2012 @ 11:22am | Report comment
LOL!
I agree. How much publicity would league get if he betrayed the kiwis and played for Oz. There would be a massive furore and the RLWC would definitely then get more attention. I remember that he was pissed about not being eligible to play State of Origin- but not pissed enough to give up the Kiwi jersey and switch allegiance in order to be eligible. Unfortunately, i think he is a proud Kiwi, so that aint gonna happen.
July 26th 2012 @ 11:43am
stojo01 said | July 26th 2012 @ 11:43am | Report comment
To play Origin you have to be available for selection for Australia.
The way i read the International Rugby League Eligibility rules a player has to reside in the other country for two years or have a Grandparent from the new country to switch countries. There also has to have been a world cup between the switch. SBW last played for the kiwis in early 2008 so there has been enough time and a world cup for him to change countries, he hasn’t resided in Australia for two years so whether he can play for Australia and Origin for NSW depends on whether he has an Australian grandparent.
Anybody know the answer to that? I know his grandfather was Bill Woolsley who played for an Auckland club in the 1950s and was then contracted by the Engadine as club captain in their early years so there may be an Australian grandparent. Honestly International league has allready lost a lot of cred with the Tamou selection why turn it into theatre? Would Australia or NSW want him or need him in 2013? He’s not scrounging for money so would the 50k per Origin game or a RL world cup with Australia be enough incentive for him to want to switch countries.
July 26th 2012 @ 11:49am
Akann said | July 26th 2012 @ 11:49am | Report comment
I think SBW wouldn’t do that. He’s a kiwi through and through. He could have decided to opt for the much easier task, and more financially rewarding option of playing for the wallabies but decided to play for the All Blacks, whose current playing talent is superior to any team from either code.
July 26th 2012 @ 12:32pm
League fan said | July 26th 2012 @ 12:32pm | Report comment
All Blacks, whose current playing talent is superior to any team from either code.
Akann are you trying to say NZ rugby has more talent and depth than Australia does with rugby league. As John Mcinroe would say you can not be serious.
July 26th 2012 @ 1:28pm
Aaron said | July 26th 2012 @ 1:28pm | Report comment
I sort of agree with Akann. I watch both the s15 and the nrl, and the quality of football displayed by the nz s15 teams is superior to even the top nrl teams imo. I know it’s hard to compare codes but there does seem to be more natural talent in nz rugby than Australian league atm. You have to remember that the majority of nz league players were never good enough to make it in rugby, but yet they seem to give the kangaroos a decent run for their money when all their best players are available.
July 26th 2012 @ 2:32pm
Emric said | July 26th 2012 @ 2:32pm | Report comment
I love how these arguments go – League is better no union is better, well league is tougher no union is tougher.
Union and League are both hard sports with their own disadvantages and merits.
Union is the more skillful sport in MY opinion my reasoning is simple, in union you have less room to move, and a stronger defensive pattern to beat.
July 26th 2012 @ 2:32pm
Go warriors said | July 26th 2012 @ 2:32pm | Report comment
You have to remember that the majority of nz league players were never good enough to make it in rugby,
Aaron do you actually think before you write such garbage. Most of the kiwi players are league boys through and through. Some of them might of played rugby at school and who is to know if they had of stayed in rugby who is to say they would not have gone to become All Blacks. The fact is they prefer league. You have got no case to your argument.
There has also been great All Blacks that have failed in league. I am sure you do not want me to mention the league careers of Tana Umanga, Mark Carter or John Kirwin do you.
I am not trying to start a code war but please stop showing your ignorance.
July 26th 2012 @ 2:59pm
stojo01 said | July 26th 2012 @ 2:59pm | Report comment
Have to agree when i was at High school in Auckland 35 years ago there was always a core of players who turned out for 1st or 2nd XV on Saturday and played league on Sunday. They usually got picked at second five in union because they could tackle consistently well. League and Union are symbiotic sports League teaches kids the basics of running passing and tackling and defence, and it isn’t easy it is a lot more complicated for kids to understand than you think.
The big thing about league in New Zealand is it is really strong in Auckland and always has been just look at how the Auckland Blues super 15 franchise dropped the ball on identifying first XV talent and how that has benefited every NRL club. The really good players in the Auckland schoolboys comp would be playing both sports, keeping their options open and using the good parts of both sports to hone their skills just like the really good players in Australia outside of the GPS system.
Neither sport is better than the other they are just different to play and watch especially watching live as opposed to on TV. Often a players body shape has a lot to do with whether he is going to excel at league or union as well.
July 27th 2012 @ 1:12am
D Maaga said | July 27th 2012 @ 1:12am | Report comment
i would have love to agree with you there stojo01 but that could not be possible 35 years ago. i played both codes in auckland for many years and anyone who did will know that it was impossible to play both while at high school because auckland 1st xv comp and under 16, 17, 18 and 19 rugby league are all play on saturday afternoon around the same time.
the best school rugby talent in nz or auckland stay in rugby union while the warriors and nrl clubs might sign a few there are plenty of rugby schools all over nz and even more talents that have benefit nz rugby, overseas clubs and nations like samoa, tonga and fiji and the nrl as well. the auckland blues problems is not related to league its inhouse and its structure is run by amateurs like dalton and co and hope john kirwan can bring back some winning form to the blues next season. there are more rugby union players in auckland high schools alone than there are rugby league players in the whole of new zealand.
July 26th 2012 @ 2:50pm
D Maaga said | July 26th 2012 @ 2:50pm | Report comment
got to agree with emric most of the talents who miss out on 1st xv and school rugby usually end up in league and eventually to the kiwis. tana umaga never played nrl but went back to wellington to be with his sick mum. john kirwan was 100 years old when he was playing on thew wing for the warriors and mark carter shoulder was so bad he should have never signed with the warriors and he took the warriors for a ride and got what he wanted “money”.
July 27th 2012 @ 11:00am
stojo01 said | July 27th 2012 @ 11:00am | Report comment
I think you’ll find players like Dane and Kurt Sorenson played both league and Union through high school. Glendowie college rocketed up through the C aand B 1st XV competitions while they were there and rocketed down when they left. We had a guy at our high school who would turn out on Saturday sometimes for both league and union (league always got precedence if there was a clash) and then turn around and often play for Auck university on Sunday. I have seen two players for Newington high school in Sydney who play league as well as 1st XV one of them was a player in 16s state of origin and saw him playing for Australia A schools union against Tonga a couple of weeks ago. I’m sure there are a ton of players from Joeys in Sydney who do it. It may not happen at Sacred Heart or Kings or Grammar or St Kents or but MAGS yes and most suburban working class public highs schools you bet regardless of whether it is on the same day.
The best will allways play both i’ve seen it even with the 12s i’ve never seen some kid happier than when playing 3 games on a weekend.
July 29th 2012 @ 4:32pm
Rugby Is Bigger Than League said | July 29th 2012 @ 4:32pm | Report comment
No one is allow to play both games at MAGS, 1st XV games comes first and daylight second in most schools in NZ.
July 26th 2012 @ 1:38pm
Renegade said | July 26th 2012 @ 1:38pm | Report comment
“All Blacks, whose current playing talent is superior to any team from either code.”
That’s the funniest thing i’ve read in a while – you should be a comedian mate!
July 26th 2012 @ 1:43pm
Akann said | July 26th 2012 @ 1:43pm | Report comment
You don’t rate nz rugby players? Do you even watch rugby?
July 26th 2012 @ 2:54pm
D Maaga said | July 26th 2012 @ 2:54pm | Report comment
the fact is nz rugby have such a massive talents in rugby right now and even have more than 4000 players playing professionally overseas in france, uk, japan, ireland, nrl under 20′s and for samoa, tonga and fiji and many others is a true reflections of the talents. no wonder why the nrl and the warriors are targeting that school rugby talents.
July 26th 2012 @ 12:04pm
Zippa said | July 26th 2012 @ 12:04pm | Report comment
Nafe if it was all about the money he would stay in rugby. There is no way on earth he will choose state of origin over the Kiwis, especially considering there is a world cup next year.
It is no coincedence that he chose 2013 to return to RL. Union has very little to offer in 2013 so he is not missing much where as in league there is the world cup. SBW has the chance to become the first ever player to win a world cup in both codes. That is a feat that SBW would love to have on his resume.
July 26th 2012 @ 11:49am
tonysalerno said | July 26th 2012 @ 11:49am | Report comment
Sonny Bill Williams should play for the All-blacks next season because if the Kiwis want a real chance at beating Australia they will need him.
July 26th 2012 @ 11:56am
stojo01 said | July 26th 2012 @ 11:56am | Report comment
Yeah agree especially after Conrad Smith is out with a detatched retina. That could be a career ending injury for a lawyer like him. My pick to replace him is Tamti Ellison or maybe Andrew Horrell on the bench. Definitely means there will be opportunities for the Australian centres when they play the All Black first up in August. Smith is the best defender in world rugby it’s a big loss for the ABs.
July 26th 2012 @ 11:54am
Tony Archers Maroon Underwear said | July 26th 2012 @ 11:54am | Report comment
Even if he could, I doubt it would be a smart selection, when did he last play RL?
Why would you leave Pritchard, Eastwood, Mannering, Blair or J.Smith out.
I agree with commenters that it would be a great promotional tool for the match, but if I was a Kiwi Id rather see a team of players who are match fit and performing for their clubs than a player with a big name that hasn’t played the game in years.
July 26th 2012 @ 1:32pm
winston said | July 26th 2012 @ 1:32pm | Report comment
Why would he or the Japanese club risk him getting injured in a one off game of league
Not a chance
July 26th 2012 @ 4:43pm
oikee said | July 26th 2012 @ 4:43pm | Report comment
Why would they risk him. Lets say for publicity.
I have seen Japan play rugby , and trust me, Papua New Guinea Rugby League would give these boys a flogging.