Deans is the right man at the wrong time
Robbie Deans could be gone from the Wallabies at the end of the 2012 Rugby Championship (AP Photo/Christophe Ena)
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As a long time Robbie Deans supporter, it pains me to agree with those baying for his blood. Before I tell you why, let me say right now that Deans is not a bad coach.
Certain radio broadcasters appear to have been trawling the streets of Kings Cross to give predictable journalists cheap headlines.
Deans deserves more respect. He is a great rugby man.
That said, Deans’ position has become untenable. So how did this fall from grace occur and why am I changing my tune now?
There is nothing wrong with being second best in the world unless you are Australian or a member of the Chinese Olympic team.
As shown during the Olympics, Australians demand success. A silver medal is awarded to the first loser. Sport at the elite level is about winning and we certainly don’t tolerate ‘missiles’ who talk it up but lose.
Deans’ teams have regularly beaten the Springboks, decimated the French by 50 odd points in Paris and produced stirring performances against New Zealand in Hong Kong and Brisbane.
They can do it when they are up for it but lack consistency. Samoa, Scotland, Ireland and England have all won games against the Wallabies they had no right to.
Yet Deans cannot unlock the mystery of why consistency is lacking, much less rectify the problem. Why?
As so often is the case with Generation Y, they need a touchy-feely motivator to produce consistently. Someone who tells them how good they are.
A mentor who breast feeds them right up until the point they get the shiny new keys to the Porsche or, in this case, Bledisloe Cup.
We can now say definitively that Deans is not that guy. He got the best out of wholesome, modest, rural boys from Generation X.
Dan Carter isn’t flashy. He has absolutely no interest in tainted Akai stereos on the Gold Coast. I never once heard Todd Blackadder or Brad Thorne getting mouthy about being ‘meaner’ to their opposition.
His number 8s never looked liked Tarzan and never played like Jane.
They certainly could catch. Deans is about understatement, work ethic and doing the simple things right.
Deans has the correct philosophy. It would have been perfect for managing the Wilson’s, Horan’s, Little’s and Latham’s of this world.
They didn’t believe their own hype. It is just wrong for managing the prima donna cattle the Wallabies have right now.
Unlike Wayne Bennet, Deans can’t rotate the problem children out. While Bennett rules with an iron fist, the ‘Three Amigos’ are on the ARU protected species list.
Food fights, rugby brands and disagreements with bouncers outside ‘The Victory’ (how ironic) to name but a few, indiscretions have blighted the team.
Seriously, how much do these Test beginners get away with? Perhaps that is to do with depth in Australian rugby but it is more likely a product of the ARU protecting valuable marketing commodities.
It is also his attraction to rugged, rural rugby work horses that has shaped Deans’ selections at the Wallabies and doomed his reign.
This was most evident when the World Cup rolled around. Perhaps over compensating for the problem children, Deans became preoccupied with Ben McCalman and Pat McCabe.
This obsession ended our cup charge for different reasons. No back up seven could be accommodated due to McCalman’s selection and no ‘Plan B’ was available with McCabe at inside centre.
However, it hasn’t stopped there. Robbie now sees things in Rob Horne that nobody else does.
The team selection for the crucial opening Rugby Championship match against the All Blacks was all wrong.
From Polota-Nau’s selection ahead of Stephen Moore to picking Adam Ashley-Cooper on the wing to accommodate Horne, Deans sent the wrong messages both on and off the field.
He has begun to doubt himself. He’s making decisions that fly against his philosophy.
Even in his own mind, he no longer has the answers. How can you pick a hooker to start who is perilously poor at line out time? The dictionary definition of ‘impact player’ reads ‘Polata-Nau’ after all.
Why select two 13s in an unproven centre combination while plonking Ashley-Cooper out on the wing?
The group, the basics, attention to detail, what happened to those?
This week we have finally got the Aussie backline that most of us wanted to see from the start.
Sure, in a perfect world Adam Ashley-Cooper should be slotting into the centres and Beale should be at fullback but the inclusion of Cooper, Barnes at 12 and the return of Mitchell on the wing are positive selections.
I fear though, that with Deans doubting himself and seemingly forced into the ‘right’ selections, it is a case of too little, too late.
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August 25th 2012 @ 2:08am
Ben.S said | August 25th 2012 @ 2:08am | Report comment
Deans is a bad Test coach. The evidence is there. He is reactive rather than proactive, has introduced no tactical innovations to the Wallabies, and by and large has only plumped with youth when faced with no alternative. Speaking from an English perspective, when England beat Australia the last two times they met they did so because the English coaching panel had found glaring holes in the Wallabies game. For example, Ben Youngs’ try in Australia came about because it had been noted that the Australian lifters left large gaps at the lineout; likewise Drew Mitchell’s defence; Tom Croft dominated the restart phase because Australia were adjudged to be poorly coordinated there; in the Twickenham Test Hape and Easter pounded Cooper into submission which allowed quick ball. And after both games Deans and Elsom looked shell shocked because the England team had played with width, despite choosing teams which indicated they would do so! Likewise the Ireland result in the WC – Ireland tackle high so the Wallaby players kept running upright like telegraph poles, and after the game the same look of surprise was there to see.
August 25th 2012 @ 3:36am
Viscount Crouchback said | August 25th 2012 @ 3:36am | Report comment
“and by and large has only plumped with youth when faced with no alternative”.
This isn’t quite fair, Ben. Deans made a massive overhaul of the squad when he took over – remember all the fuss about ditching veterans like Giteau, George Smith, Phil Waugh & Co?
Your other criticisms, however, ring true.
August 25th 2012 @ 6:46am
Ben.S said | August 25th 2012 @ 6:46am | Report comment
Giteau was played until it was glaringly obvious that he wasn’t a Test 10, VC, and even then he won Deans games through his kicking that Australia didn’t particularly excel in. After that he was the cliche fall guy. Likewise Deans kept Smith on for a lengthy period, even playing him at 8 if I recall correctly. And even if he hadn’t – I raise you Al Baxter, Mark Chisholm, Rocky Elsom, Luke Burgess… Genia only got a game because Burgess’ passing was so bad it was actually a hinderance, Kurtley Beale only got a game because Rob Horne was injured etc… Further, which Wallabies have improved under Deans?
August 25th 2012 @ 6:54am
Justin2 said | August 25th 2012 @ 6:54am | Report comment
Ben – you hit the nail on the head with “which wallabies have improved under Deans”?
Enormous talent that hasn’t developed IMO. And the less said about the tactics and game plan the better.
August 25th 2012 @ 2:47am
Shop said | August 25th 2012 @ 2:47am | Report comment
It is a coaches job to get the best out of a team. Regardless of the sport.
This means understanding the psychology of the players, gen X, Y of Z.
Deans clearly can’t do this because he thinks what worked in Canterbury will also work in Australia.
I can’t believe we still have this guy until next year.
August 25th 2012 @ 3:11am
Johnno said | August 25th 2012 @ 3:11am | Report comment
-Too me a pattern of wallaby teams under has been this. A lack of fitness, so many times wallaby teams have faded under Deans as matches wear on.
-England twickanhem 2010
-Irleand 2009 at croke park
-RWC vs Irleand 2011
-Even vs Sth africa in the RWC 2011 we started to tire maybe that is why they got so much possession our 2nd half we were flat
-Ab’s seem much fitter now and in past matches even in Brisbane last year that injured and poorly organised and rotated ab’s team pushed us to the limit in the 2nd half
-In STH AFRICA in 2010, Sth africa beat us in the 1st test, then after being exciting in the test as well we faded and only a miracle penally from Kurtley Beale on full time saved Deans skin. I think Deans would of been sacked had they lost in Blomfentien
-A boks side that wasn’t match fit pushed the aussies last year at Durban and we got lucky escape there 2
-2 times vs Scotland they have handled us endurance wise and dealt with whatever we threw at them
-Only time i can think off where our aussy fitness showed up was vs Marc lievermont’s french in 2010, and this is Marc lievermont we are talking about. And the books under Meyer look much fitter than under Pdvilliers not good for Deans, we will get dominated in Sth Africa if the books don’t lose any more injuries eg Bekker and , william alberts. If bismarc was fit it would be a cricket score
-Like the tahs the wallabies seem short on fitness compared to kiwi teams eg Chiefs and Hurricanes.
August 25th 2012 @ 3:14am
ThelmaWrites said | August 25th 2012 @ 3:14am | Report comment
Hi Ben S,
I am not privy to the tactical discussions of the English coaches, so I won’t go into that.
If you will remember, in 2009 when you were contributing under another nom-de-guerre, Knives Out, Peter K had an article in The Roar, “Deans Spills the Beans”. As early as then, Deans had said that Australian rugby players aspire to be Wallabies, but that is sufficient ambition for them; they have no desire to be the best in the world.
Nothing has changed.
I’ll repeat what other supporters of Deans have said in The Roar ad nauseum, the problem for Deans is how to get the players to fire. He faces a player culture of Who Cares. I feel for Robbie because I know first-hand how hard it is when you’ve got recalcitrant staff. The regulatory authorities have padlocked the family business finally on 28 June! Belatedly, since returning in 2011, my family and long-serving staff had been asking me to “save” the family business. Now if they had only been as frightened in 2003, maybe even 2006, I may have come on board. I did not buy it. Too late.
I wish Deans had more caution when he accepted the post of coach of the Wallabies. In my reply to you (as Knives Out), on hearing that Deans was present at the Shute Shield grand final in 2008, I had said to my daughter: Deans must be wondering what he’s got into.
I feel embarassed baring myself like so on The Roar; even now I am tempted to delete the personal account. But maybe you’ll see why I support Deans.
August 25th 2012 @ 6:49am
Ben.S said | August 25th 2012 @ 6:49am | Report comment
If Jake White and Ewen McKenzie can ring so much from Australian players then why can’t Deans?
August 25th 2012 @ 7:08am
Damien said | August 25th 2012 @ 7:08am | Report comment
Deans isn’t coaching at Super Rugby level so that’s alittle unfair.
August 25th 2012 @ 7:14am
Ben.S said | August 25th 2012 @ 7:14am | Report comment
If Jake White and Laurie Fisher can get their forwards to hit rucks with low body angles then the same can’t be done at Test level?
August 25th 2012 @ 3:14am
Jacko said | August 25th 2012 @ 3:14am | Report comment
Hold on a minute … Deans made some horrible decisions during the world cup. 1. Cooper should not have started the semi-final. 2. Another # 7 had to go. 3. The style he wanted to play (by picking a centre who didn’t/couldn’t pass) was completely wrong.
So are you saying that we would have had the same success with him as coach as we did with Macqueen? Coaching is all about getting the best out of your players, he has not done this with our boys.
Those trophies at the Crusaders … starts to make sense that it could have been more the players than the coach.
McKenzie HAS to be our next coach. Full stop.
August 25th 2012 @ 9:47am
Ra said | August 25th 2012 @ 9:47am | Report comment
and when the All Blacks smash McKenzie’s team – where to from there??? The Wallabies in rugby is like the Kiwis in league – always against the odds – having odd wins here and there against much more vaunted foe, sometimes even experiencing a run of wins every now and then, but the reality is that every time they run out on the park they are always the under dog. The Kiwis and Wallabies feel confident they can more than match every other nation playing their game any where in the world, but like to think they save their best game for their perrenial nemesis. Amazingly, the Kiwis always believe they can beat the Kangaroos – but how strong is that belief in this crop of Aussie rugby players? Reasonably good tradesmen, but lacking mongrel; mongrel instilled in the Kiwi psychie from birth.. The psychie of the under dog – “it’s not the mongrel in the fight – it’s the fight in the mongrel” Aussie Wallabies need to train and play long periods in the mongrel environment – all the ego stroking and bum patting in the world by a new coach won’t change the Australian rugby psychie – even if his name is McKenzie
August 25th 2012 @ 10:16am
Shop said | August 25th 2012 @ 10:16am | Report comment
The thing is Ra, Mackenzie won’t be doing any “ego stroking or bum patting”. He wouldn’t have accepted a performance like that of last weekend and made some major changes. Deans has been through about 6 or 7 of those perfomances and keeps bringing out the same bullsheit vocabulary for the press – and nothing changes. Perhaps MacKenzie isn’t the best option, but no one could be worse that Deans.
August 25th 2012 @ 12:43pm
Jutsie said | August 25th 2012 @ 12:43pm | Report comment
Not really shop mcckenzie has shown this year that he has as many question marks around his ability as deans. THat finals against the sharks was as pathetic a performance as that of the wallabys in the first bledisloe.
And mcckenzie is not above playing favourites either. Why does simmons continously get picked ahead of AWH and van humphries when he has none of their agression or application?
August 26th 2012 @ 5:02am
Let the One King Rule said | August 26th 2012 @ 5:02am | Report comment
I don’t get the McKenzie love either This is the same coach that was widely derided while in charge of the Warratahs, and whose accomplishments number a single, lone Super victory. Deans has multiple Super victories, and they haven’t translated to any positive outcome at an international level. What makes anyone think McKenzie will be any better?
August 28th 2012 @ 11:26pm
brooke48 said | August 28th 2012 @ 11:26pm | Report comment
SHOP; mckenzie certainly not the answer and didnt have the confidence to do the job when offered because he couldnt handle certain players im reliably informed.
August 25th 2012 @ 3:24am
Dexter William said | August 25th 2012 @ 3:24am | Report comment
RD’s contract should not have been automatically extended before the RWC – poor form from JON who has done some great things for Australian Rugby.
It can not be said that we did not give RD a fair go at the job. Last year 3 nation was the best RD has performed. His strategy at the RWC was pathetic. We were very very lucky not to lose to the Boks in the QF. If we had loss (which we should for playing dumb rugby) we would be now ranked 5 or 6 instead of 2.
Since the RWC RD performance is below par. Our Wallabies does not resemble the smart attacking team we are traditionally famous for. We played dumb and dumber Rugby now.
His tenure is similar to the last NSW Labor party. Not that the Liberal Party showed more promise, but after years and years of not moving forward, we simply needed a change. To remain status quo is plain silly.
RD needs to go. It is the only sensible thing to do. We just need somebody (anybody) to try something different even if we may get worse result. Keeping on with something that continues to fail is plain stupid.
PS Some bad selection during his tenure stood out:
Dean Mumm 25 test cap!!! Waht???
Rob Horne???
Simmons – good player but simply not ready for Test.
Pat MaCabe and A Fainga picked together at the Centre???
Ben Alexander incapability to hold up a scrum in the last two years.
Constantly picking players out of position.
Not picking on Super Rugby form.
August 25th 2012 @ 3:31am
DuffyV said | August 25th 2012 @ 3:31am | Report comment
McCaw and Carter made 24 out of 24 tackles in the first Bled. (12 each with nil miss and this was not even noticed because they still did more noticeable flashy things)
No country will ever dominate the All Blacks while those two continue to do the basics so god damn beautiful. (and they have for a decade)
A large number of so called Rugby fans have missed out on recognizing shear Union beauty because of their colored patches.
They are the greatest 1st five and forward captain combination the world has ever seen.
How was Australia ever meant to do better than they have??? against those two……..
August 25th 2012 @ 4:00am
DuffyV said | August 25th 2012 @ 4:00am | Report comment
How sad for the colored patches that have not been able to recognize this supreme combination, over the last decade, as you will be very unlikely to see better in your lifetime.
“Oh but sir he’s cheating in the rucks, I know he hasn’t missed a tackle in twelve but he’s just cheating……”
August 25th 2012 @ 4:05am
DuffyV said | August 25th 2012 @ 4:05am | Report comment
And how is Mr Deans meant to succeed against such insurmountable opposition????
Possibly by recruiting them to State of Origin for 50k a match??????
Except it is 10 years too late for that option even if it was a most unlikely possibility.
August 25th 2012 @ 4:32am
krisl of Utah said | August 25th 2012 @ 4:32am | Report comment
Dean is the wrong man at the right time
August 25th 2012 @ 8:31am
Dexter William said | August 25th 2012 @ 8:31am | Report comment
Priceless
August 25th 2012 @ 5:27am
SandBox said | August 25th 2012 @ 5:27am | Report comment
really enjoyed your analysis wre01, thanks.
Hate to say this but his back line combined with reserves (backs) excite me. Maybe a rabbit is coming, just a small maybe
August 25th 2012 @ 7:15am
ohtani's jacket said | August 25th 2012 @ 7:15am | Report comment
Robbie Deans is like a bad relationship where you keep blaming yourself for your partner’s faults. If he hadn’t been given a contract extension before the World Cup then maybe he could have ridden off into the sunset and we could have had an interesting Bledisloe Cup this year instead of Dullsville.
August 25th 2012 @ 8:57am
sheek said | August 25th 2012 @ 8:57am | Report comment
OJ,
With your penchant for predicting things with absolute certainty, care to toss the winner of this year’s Melbourne Cup my way……….
August 25th 2012 @ 10:10am
ohtani's jacket said | August 25th 2012 @ 10:10am | Report comment
Avoid any horse trained, exercised, groomed, ridden or bet on by Robert Maxwell Deans.
August 25th 2012 @ 3:01pm
sheek said | August 25th 2012 @ 3:01pm | Report comment
Boom boom
August 25th 2012 @ 12:22pm
Pierce said | August 25th 2012 @ 12:22pm | Report comment
Ask Danny Nikolic.