Rugby causes AFL finals fixture headache
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A Rugby Championship match in Perth on September 8 could cause major headaches to the AFL’s finals fixturing, with league boss Andrew Demetriou conceding the issue could have a flow-on effect.
Perth’s Patersons Stadium will be unavailable for AFL use on Saturday week due to the hosting of the Wallabies versus Springboks game.
A worst-case scenario for the AFL would be if both West Coast and Fremantle earned the right to a home elimination final next week.
If that eventuated, the AFL would have no other choice but to schedule one elimination final on the Friday night and the other elimination final on the Sunday, with the two qualifying finals to be played on the Saturday.
In four of the past five years, the AFL has chosen to schedule a qualifying final (1v4 or 2v3) on the Friday night of the first week of the finals, thus giving sides who finished in the top-four extra time between games.
If West Coast finished fifth and Fremantle sixth, Demetriou said the Eagles would likely be given the Friday night timeslot and the Dockers relegated to Sunday.
That means the winner of the Fremantle clash would have just six days to recover plus be forced to deal with the added burden of travelling before their next game.
Demetriou said the AFL would have little choice but to deal with whatever outcome arose.
“It has an impact on the rest of the finals from the perspective of things like six-day breaks and seven-day breaks and travelling,” Demetriou said in Perth on Monday.
“It’s not ideal.
“We’ve spoken to the government and to the football commission today about trying to avoid that in the future, but it is what it is and we’ll deal with it.”
Such is the uncertainty surrounding the final make-up of the top-eight, a situation could arise where neither West Coast or Fremantle qualify for a home final in week one, or just one of the teams get a home final.
Demetriou used his visit to Perth to get an update on the licensing arrangements of both West Coast and Fremantle.
The two WA-based clubs are united in their bid to remove the West Australian Football Commission from the current licence structure and instead have a direct licence arrangement with the AFL.
A similar situation is happening in South Australia, with the licences of Port Adelaide and Adelaide set to be transferred from the SANFL to the AFL before the end of the year.
“It is important that at a point in time that our clubs are independent,” Demetriou said.
“The clubs would prefer to be independent. They will continue to develop football because they’re committed to developing football.
“I don’t think there should be any fears about having this discussion.
“What we need to do collectively is work towards how we can do it better if we can. If we can’t, then it will stay the same.”
Demetriou also confirmed the AFL remained committed to contributing a yet-to-be-determined amount to the cost of Perth’s new 60,000-capacity stadium at Burswood, which is scheduled to be completed in time for the 2018 AFL season.
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August 28th 2012 @ 9:06am
josh said | August 28th 2012 @ 9:06am | Report comment
Is the WACA free?
August 28th 2012 @ 9:30am
The Cattery said | August 28th 2012 @ 9:30am | Report comment
It’s a minor thing, and may not even eventuate.
Very rare scenario when both clubs of one non-Vic city host a final on the same weekend.
August 28th 2012 @ 9:45am
Nathan of Perth said | August 28th 2012 @ 9:45am | Report comment
You say headache, I say great weekend for sport!
August 28th 2012 @ 10:05am
Anthony said | August 28th 2012 @ 10:05am | Report comment
I am surprised this has happened – given the WAFC has control of Subiaco Oval. Or did they not think that Freo or WCE would play in the finals? What a stuff-up! I hope this is not a portent for the new Perth Stadium. The AFL is going to put $$$ into it, so they should have1st call on scheduling. Rugby, like NRL & soccer, doesn’t put money into stadiums, but the AFL does.
August 28th 2012 @ 10:14am
Nathan of Perth said | August 28th 2012 @ 10:14am | Report comment
Only four teams have home finals that weekend and when it was first announced it couldn’t honestly be said that Freo looked likely to host finals (or even play them) so a certain amount of slack has to be extended to the authorities on this one…
Have you seen the prices for the Wallabies game, btw? Absolutely OBSCENE!
August 29th 2012 @ 12:21am
Ian Whitchurch said | August 29th 2012 @ 12:21am | Report comment
Nathan,
Thats what happens when you need to pay players and dont have a viable club competition.
August 28th 2012 @ 10:21am
The Cattery said | August 28th 2012 @ 10:21am | Report comment
It’s a long shot that the scenario eventuates, and it’s only a minor hiccup on the first week of the finals.
It seems to me fair enough that they booked the Wallabies in under the circumstances.
August 28th 2012 @ 11:41am
Matt F said | August 28th 2012 @ 11:41am | Report comment
I would imagine that they gave priority to the Wallabies because the game was 100% confirmed ages and ages ago while the 2 AFL finals still might not actually happen. A guaranteed event against 2 potential events (which will be scheduled around the Wallabies match anyway) that still might not happen? It’s quite clear why they allowed the ARU to book the ground.
August 28th 2012 @ 11:32am
Timmypig said | August 28th 2012 @ 11:32am | Report comment
Nathan, agreed re the cost of tickets. I took the kids, wifey & mother in law to the Sydney game. $$ OUCH $$ for pretty ordinary seats in a stadium that is awful for watching rugby. And there’s the big problem: non-rectangular fields.
I concede that for a Boks-Wobblies test nib Stadium doesn’t hold enough people, Subi does. But Subi’s a terrible place to watch rugby. Shame there’s little hope of anyone developing a 35k seat rectangular stadium in Perth. That would solve this problem once and for all.
August 28th 2012 @ 11:43am
Matt F said | August 28th 2012 @ 11:43am | Report comment
If Perth were to get an NRL team then perth would have 3 teams (Force, Glory and the NRL side) that like to use a rectangular stadium so it’s possible that they could get one like AAMI Park in Melbourne. The NRL side appears a long way away though.
August 29th 2012 @ 12:22am
Ian Whitchurch said | August 29th 2012 @ 12:22am | Report comment
Build hotels that are only needed for a month long event.
What could possibly go wrong ?
August 28th 2012 @ 11:54am
Workalot said | August 28th 2012 @ 11:54am | Report comment
The AFL should just demand use of the ground between AFL and Rugby who do you think is going to win.
August 28th 2012 @ 6:33pm
p.Tah said | August 28th 2012 @ 6:33pm | Report comment
Yes, but who has sold the most tickets for the evening
August 28th 2012 @ 6:42pm
Brewski said | August 28th 2012 @ 6:42pm | Report comment
I actually think he was asking who is going to win the rugby ?.
August 28th 2012 @ 12:04pm
Camshaft said | August 28th 2012 @ 12:04pm | Report comment
Is rugby popular in Perth? I lived there for 2 years back in the 90′s and saw no sign that they even play the game. Is this a recent thing?
August 28th 2012 @ 1:17pm
Nathan of Perth said | August 28th 2012 @ 1:17pm | Report comment
Union has always been played in Perth, its popular and one of the big sports along with AFL at the private academies. The creation of the Western Force to compete in Super Rugby has helped push the game further. I see a lot of Force kits and bumper stickers where I am.
August 28th 2012 @ 1:59pm
Mango Jack said | August 28th 2012 @ 1:59pm | Report comment
Yes, there is a fairly large South African community there, who of course love their rugby. Test matches in Perth are always played against them.
August 28th 2012 @ 1:10pm
King Robbo said | August 28th 2012 @ 1:10pm | Report comment
It will be a sellout. There are 50,000 or so South Africans living in Perth and 4 or 5 times as many rugby starved kiwis.
Subi is probably one of the worst stadiums I have ever been to (besides NIB). Not being a rugby fan, went to a springbok v wallabies game a few years back and was surprised more than half the crowd were ex pats South Africans. Watched the game from the first row and as its almost at ground level, I hardly ever saw the ball behind the advertising hoardings on the ground. AFL was reluctant to move from Subi because they did have more control over other codes in the use of it.
August 28th 2012 @ 1:19pm
Nathan of Perth said | August 28th 2012 @ 1:19pm | Report comment
“AFL was reluctant to move from Subi because they did have more control over other codes in the use of it.”
Not sure what you mean here – the match is being played at Subi because Subi seats 44,000 – Perth Oval seats 20,000 at the best of times and only 10,000 with the ongoing redevelopments.
August 28th 2012 @ 2:10pm
King Robbo said | August 28th 2012 @ 2:10pm | Report comment
Yes, sorry that should of been a separate paragraph (different point). Being lazy.
WAFC has more of a say who uses Subi oval than they would the proposed new stadium. So when stadium discussions started, AFL wanted a guarentee that they would be the major tenants. Nothing to do with this fixture clash, but it may have future implications.
August 28th 2012 @ 3:34pm
Brewski said | August 28th 2012 @ 3:34pm | Report comment
The rugby is a good money spinner for the WAFC, so i dont think there will be a problem, plenty of saffas in Perth, and generally they outnumber the Australian rugby fans.
Rugby has a fairly strong grass roots in Perth, and has always been played at the top private schools, although the standard varys.