The AFL hope their first overseas game for premiership points, in New Zealand next year, paves the way for matches around the world.
And they have left the door open to it eventually leading to a New Zealand-based AFL club.
St Kilda will play Sydney at Wellington’s 34,000-capacity Westpac Stadium on Anzac Day 2013, the first of what are planned to be annual fixtures on the shared holiday, hosted by the Saints.
The game will be played at 1740 AEST (1940 local), to follow the traditional Essendon-Collingwood MCG Anzac Day blockbuster.
Provided all parties are happy, the Saints will then host two Wellington games in each of 2014 and 2015, in a deal reportedly set to net the club about $1 million per year.
AFL chief operating officer Gillon McLachlan said the league was unashamedly targeting international expansion and hoped the NZ deal proved a trend-setter.
Victorian Premier Ted Baillieu has spoken this week about the prospect of home and away games being staged in China, while Richmond have been pushing for an exhibition match in India.
“We’ve certainly been unambiguous about our international plans, to look 10, 15, 20 years out,” McLachlan told reporters on Wednesday.
“I certainly hope it is (the first of several overseas ventures).
“… I wouldn’t be surprised if other deals, other international games, flow on the back of it.”
While NZ is an obvious first step, given its geographical and cultural closeness, McLachlan said there were no insurmountable barriers to going further afield.
“There are obviously logistical issues, but you have to be creative to solve those,” he said.
“You think about the rugby guys who travel to South Africa – that’s a terrible flight, the time zones are poor and people make it work.
“If you’ve got a vision, you’ve got to deal with the challenges.”
Asked about the prospect of increased NZ games and eventually a NZ-based club, McLachlan said it couldn’t be ruled out, but would depend on how well the initial visits worked.
“Whether it’s a team in 10 years, I’d love to think it was,” he said.
AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou has said Australian Rules-mad Tasmania is the logical next location if the league expands to 19 clubs.
McLachlan wasn’t willing to speculate on whether Tasmania, already spurned in favour of Gold Coast and Greater Western Sydney, might now be behind NZ in the AFL expansion queue.
“I think though, you’ve got to have an even number of teams, so 20 is as likely as 19,” he said.
St Kilda chief executive Michael Nettlefold and Wellington City Council Sports and Events Leader John Morrison said their deal should be mutually beneficial as a commercial and promotional venture.
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September 13th 2012 @ 8:29am
TC said | September 13th 2012 @ 8:29am | Report comment
To be honest, 18 teams is already a huge number of teams.
Thinking about any more teams does my head in a bit.
TC
September 13th 2012 @ 10:21am
Vic said | September 13th 2012 @ 10:21am | Report comment
Shouldn’t the AFL be concentrating on putting a team in the capital of Australia, which is bigger, has more cash, better infrastructure and grass roots over the capital of New Zealand?
They must have someone from the A-League giving them great ideas.
Sure play some games there, but never a club. Kiwis would be hopeless at AFL that is why they play rugby because just about everywhere else in the world union is an academics sport and the only country that takes it fair dinkum is good old NZ because it allows them to dominate somethign. A bit of chess and biffo combined. You need to be huge, athletic and a real ball player to play football. Just cannot see NZ getting good at it. NZ should have invented it’s own football code just like all the other English speaking ex colonies of Britain. Ireland, Canada, Australia and America. Sheeple.
September 13th 2012 @ 11:40am
Punter said | September 13th 2012 @ 11:40am | Report comment
Yep at least Rugby is an academic sport in many countries to allow the Kiwis to show they are the best in the world. ARF is not even that & us poor Aussies are the best at this ARF, but there is no-one to prove it to & you know how much we love being the best!!!!
September 13th 2012 @ 3:33pm
Ian Whitchurch said | September 13th 2012 @ 3:33pm | Report comment
Vic is proof that every code has their dumb code warriors
September 13th 2012 @ 6:27pm
Spikhaza said | September 13th 2012 @ 6:27pm | Report comment
Agreed, no one should take Vic’s stupid comment seriously… little known as on behalf of the AFL. Your a brat.
September 13th 2012 @ 8:52am
Calcio said | September 13th 2012 @ 8:52am | Report comment
Yeah adding two teams did nothing to water down the current competition. Why not a bit more?
As for overseas, the AFL went through this debacle when they started their commission. It failed miserably then. What seems to have prompted the current rush to similar enterprises? Perhaps another sport finally pulling their $1.25 billion finger out.
September 13th 2012 @ 9:20am
Brewski said | September 13th 2012 @ 9:20am | Report comment
If you are talking about all the O/S games 20 or so years ago, the real problem was IMO the lack of real follow up and not continuing them.
The grass roots from all those games years ago has certainly benifited, the game is bigger O/S now than it has ever been, that is not to say it is any bigger than a speck in the sporting ocean.
i would not think any more teams would be added before at least 10 years, but relocation is certainly a option.
September 13th 2012 @ 9:29am
Calcio said | September 13th 2012 @ 9:29am | Report comment
Rubbish. There was no interest, which remains the case today.
September 13th 2012 @ 9:45am
Ian Whitchurch said | September 13th 2012 @ 9:45am | Report comment
And if we continue to do nothing, there will continue to be no interest in Queensland and New South Wales – the idea of establishing permanent teams in Sydney and Brisbane is ridiculous ! It would be like moving Collingwood out of Victoria Park !
September 13th 2012 @ 11:23am
TC said | September 13th 2012 @ 11:23am | Report comment
And what about those upstarts at the VFL!
They reckon they can get bigger than the VFA!!
TC
September 13th 2012 @ 6:39pm
Football United said | September 13th 2012 @ 6:39pm | Report comment
Don’t even start on the Pies and Vic Park. A part of Collingwood (and myself) died a little the day it sold out and left for a richmond base.
September 13th 2012 @ 6:55pm
Brewski said | September 13th 2012 @ 6:55pm | Report comment
I agree, just not the same, although having 72,000 members or whatever it is says ia lot of Collingwood fans don’t agree with me.
September 13th 2012 @ 10:02am
Brewski said | September 13th 2012 @ 10:02am | Report comment
I disagree, i think there has been some interest, the USAAFL nationals for example is the biggest adult Australian football tournament in the world, with 40 teams from across the USA meeting and playing across a weekend in 5 divisions.
That says to me the interest is there.
The AFL as the so-called keepers of the code should capitalise on this grass roots growth.
September 13th 2012 @ 11:32am
TC said | September 13th 2012 @ 11:32am | Report comment
The record attendance for an Australian Football played outside of Australia is when Melbourne played North in Vancouver in 1987 and 32,789 were in attendance, which is actually pretty good.
In 1988 and 1989, games got 18,500 and 24,639 respectively in Toronto, and another 25k attended a game in Yokohama in 1986.
In 2002 and 2003 crowds of 13k were achieved at the Oval in London, and 14k was achieved in 1998.
14,787 saw a game at Portland, USA in 1990.
As far back as 1969, 3.500 attended a WAFL practice game in New Delhi.
TC
September 13th 2012 @ 2:03pm
c said | September 13th 2012 @ 2:03pm | Report comment
keep trying afl lol
September 26th 2012 @ 12:32pm
micka said | September 26th 2012 @ 12:32pm | Report comment
We will… Thats how expansion generally happens…
September 13th 2012 @ 8:58am
Boris said | September 13th 2012 @ 8:58am | Report comment
Good luck getting a team in NZ.
The AFL should concentrate on what they’ve already got, exhibition matches in overseas locations is the limit.
Give poor Tassie a run. At least they love the game.
September 13th 2012 @ 9:17am
Go warriors said | September 13th 2012 @ 9:17am | Report comment
As a kiwi I am very surprised the AFL has not got a team from NZ. The potential is enourmous. I am not a huge AFL fan as I dont have a team to support but that would certainly change if NZ did have a team. I would certainly cheer for them and I could see myself getting right into it. I am sure there would be a lot of other Kiwis that would get into.
You only have to look at how much support the Warriors get in the NRL to realise the potential. Kiwis love sport and there will be no shortage of fans especially if the team does well.
September 13th 2012 @ 11:03am
Emric said | September 13th 2012 @ 11:03am | Report comment
this is the talk of a traitor
September 13th 2012 @ 11:13am
Go warriors said | September 13th 2012 @ 11:13am | Report comment
Emric how on earth is this being a traitor. You are a kiwi, would you not support a NZ team in the AFL. There are room for all sports you know.
September 13th 2012 @ 11:25am
TC said | September 13th 2012 @ 11:25am | Report comment
Go warriors
You deserve to be ex-communicated for daring to suggest that AFL has any role to play in NZ.
TC
September 13th 2012 @ 11:55am
Emric said | September 13th 2012 @ 11:55am | Report comment
Go Warriors.
The more sports that New Zealand spreads its talent around the weaker we as a sporting nation become. Why allow allow a sport where playing for your club is about as good as it gets develope in a country which prides itself on international sporting events.
Rugby
League
Soccer
Netball
Cricket
Basketball
I’m contracting to a job in Melbourne at the moment and trust me.. if people like you GW allow this sport to get a foothold in NZ you will find it will work to undermine the Kiwis, All Blacks, Warriors, 5 super teams and the phoenix. The AFL is not prepared to be second best to any sport so they will work to dismentle our international sporting teams.
Your leagues think the RU has shut you out of the schooling system in New Zealand … if you allow the AFL a beachhead in New Zealand it will start to undermine our sporting codes as it has done with league in Sydney and Brisbane.
September 13th 2012 @ 12:16pm
me, I like football said | September 13th 2012 @ 12:16pm | Report comment
WOW!, the telegraph has certainly worked on you.
September 13th 2012 @ 4:15pm
Australian Rules said | September 13th 2012 @ 4:15pm | Report comment
I know, that’s very impressive work by the DT.
September 14th 2012 @ 3:19pm
Titus said | September 14th 2012 @ 3:19pm | Report comment
Sounds like there were various local rules and clubs that played a combined Victorian/Association Rules game…………….along with Rugby obviously.
I think it is a bit of a stretch to say that NZ has a proud Aussie Rules history.
September 13th 2012 @ 12:48pm
TC said | September 13th 2012 @ 12:48pm | Report comment
Emric
Thanks for a hearty laugh – it’s been a stressful day – I really needed that!
Have you checked for reds under the bed yet?
The next time there’s a rugby game on in Melbourne, organise an evening out with some of your workmates, you’ll all enjoy it. Meet up for a beer before hand, go out for dinner afterwards, what a great night out.
TC
September 13th 2012 @ 3:45pm
Hamish said | September 13th 2012 @ 3:45pm | Report comment
I’m surprised some Kiwis wont look at the Aussie game yet seem to think playing the English game is OK..
September 13th 2012 @ 5:20pm
Punter said | September 13th 2012 @ 5:20pm | Report comment
Hamish, something called 150 years of History!!!!
September 13th 2012 @ 5:45pm
BigAl said | September 13th 2012 @ 5:45pm | Report comment
Aussie Rules has a history in New Zealand going back to 1868
September 13th 2012 @ 6:31pm
Spikhaza said | September 13th 2012 @ 6:31pm | Report comment
Disgraceful comment from Hamish…
By that logic I should call your game the Melbourne game.
And with that arrogance I’ll never attend a game.
September 14th 2012 @ 2:00pm
Punter said | September 14th 2012 @ 2:00pm | Report comment
It’s kick on well then BigAl in New Zealand.
September 14th 2012 @ 2:31pm
BigAl said | September 14th 2012 @ 2:31pm | Report comment
No it hasn’t Punter, but I would call it 150+, years of history.
– another big mistake New Zealand made about engaging with Australia !
September 14th 2012 @ 3:13pm
Punter said | September 14th 2012 @ 3:13pm | Report comment
That’s not my call BigAl, but maybe for the Kiwis to comment!!!! But Rugby or Victorian rules in 1868, all sounds too British for me.
September 13th 2012 @ 3:18pm
samsonite said | September 13th 2012 @ 3:18pm | Report comment
Wonder how long it will be before the AFL try and poach an All Black?
September 13th 2012 @ 3:32pm
Emric said | September 13th 2012 @ 3:32pm | Report comment
Samsonite.. They have done such things to the NRL. What makes anyone thing that the AFL isn’t prepared to attempt to buy up All Blacks as a way to promote their game.. NZ could not compete with the money the AFL could offer
September 13th 2012 @ 3:44pm
TC said | September 13th 2012 @ 3:44pm | Report comment
Emric
The AFL and AFL fans have a lot of respect for the All Blacks. In fact there are 2 or 3 players in the game whose grandfather was an All Black and that fact is celebrated. We are quite proud to have the grand children of All Blacks involved in our game. We have a great respect for the greatest rugby team of all time.
There is no way known the AFL would even contemplate trying to go up against the All Blacks in NZ – they are much smarter than that.
They’ll be rapt just to get a crowd of 20k to one game a year, and if one or two NZers got drafted into the game, that would be a bonus. I’m sure their ambitions don’t go too far beyond that.
You are putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 37.
TC
September 13th 2012 @ 3:45pm
Hamish said | September 13th 2012 @ 3:45pm | Report comment
Theres none left after the NRL and ESL took them…
September 14th 2012 @ 11:01am
Ian Whitchurch said | September 14th 2012 @ 11:01am | Report comment
Emric,
For one All Black, you could get ten Khan Haretekus.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/nz-forward-aims-to-silence-doubters-20120713-221ie.html
Amusingly, he was cut from the rookie list of the team thats playing in Wellington.
September 13th 2012 @ 3:47pm
Brewski said | September 13th 2012 @ 3:47pm | Report comment
Emric said “dismentle.”
I would get rid of the dis, and the rest reminds me generally of your posts.
LOL. wackjob.
Glad most Kiwis don’t think like you.
September 13th 2012 @ 3:57pm
Emric said | September 13th 2012 @ 3:57pm | Report comment
tell me Brewski. Why is Saint Kilda, and the AFL suddenly interested in playing games in New Zealand?
September 13th 2012 @ 4:02pm
millane said | September 13th 2012 @ 4:02pm | Report comment
@ emric… why not?
why have australia/new zealand sold bledisloe games to hong kong?
September 13th 2012 @ 4:03pm
Brewski said | September 13th 2012 @ 4:03pm | Report comment
Umm…. grow the game, expand the player pool, etc etc, why else would they ?.
September 13th 2012 @ 4:22pm
Go warriors said | September 13th 2012 @ 4:22pm | Report comment
Thankfully most Kiwis are not as paranoid as Emric. Most Kiwis will sport a NZ team in any sport. We dont have these childish code wars that exist in Australia.
The idea of playing this game in NZ is to promote a new sport to see what the interest is and one day who knows there might be a NZ team playing in the AFL. I would have no problem with that. If you dont like the sport nobody is forcing to go to the game or watch it but I am sure there will be Kiwis that will take a shine to it.
September 13th 2012 @ 4:35pm
Robbo said | September 13th 2012 @ 4:35pm | Report comment
Why shouldnt the AFL play a game in NZ. Union took a Bledisloe to Japan and Hong Kong, League is taking a game next year to China, The NFL plays games in London, UFC and rugby 7s are played all over the place.
Sports is a business and it is called promoting your business hoping to attract new fans and sponsors. The AFL has got just as much right as any other sport to play overseas.
September 13th 2012 @ 4:54pm
Emric said | September 13th 2012 @ 4:54pm | Report comment
Millane – my point exactly. The only reason the NZRU and ARU went to hong kong and japan was money – pure and simple
Brewski
Grow to the game, expand player pool etc… New Zealand does not have a unlimited supply of sports people, what it has is spread between League, Netball, Union, Soccer, Hockey, and Basketball there is simply not enough room for other major sports in New Zealands overcrowded sports market.
The AFLs moves in to New Zealand are more about the NRL’s final last year between the Warriors and Manly, a – of which 692,000 Kiwis watched spread over SkyNZ and PrimeTV along with the Australian tv ratings made the AFL feel insecure after years of hard work the NRL was slowly starting to reap the benefits mostly in NZ dollars – another 100 million dollars is expected to be added to the NRL TV rights deal directly from SkyNZ and slightly more from Prime to secure the New Zealand TV rights both Live and on Delay along with the top up coming from the internet rights its expected to be another 200 to 250 million dollars added giving the rights deal for the NRL an equlivent amount of money that the AFL has. The AFL has realized that New Zealand is a lucrative market who can add millions of dollars to its TV rights deal but it needs to develop the market a lot more.
Anyway my objection is not the the AFL attempting to play games in New Zealand. I object to the AFL which has never cared about New Zealands ANZAC link has never shown a ounch of respect to NZ in ANZAC has chosen to play this game on ANZAC day – this is the real issue I’ve had. The rest is up to the New Zealand public and if my Kiwi Whanau choose to follow the AFL that is their decision to make.
But ANZAC day transends a sporting contest it is a day to remember those who died so that we might live in a world free enough to choose between AFL and other sports
September 13th 2012 @ 5:07pm
Brewski said | September 13th 2012 @ 5:07pm | Report comment
With all due respect Emric, the only one who feels insecure is you, and your posts are proof of that.
The AFL is never going to take any player that does not want to go, and FWIW the AFL will always take a back seat to all the other sports you have mentioned.
Keep your gum boots on Bro.
September 13th 2012 @ 5:18pm
TC said | September 13th 2012 @ 5:18pm | Report comment
“…that we might live in a world free enough to choose…”
Free choice is overrated.
Free choice is the true tyranny.
Why be slaves to free choice?
Allow someone else to do all that bothersome decision making for you.
Discover true freedom – the freedom to never make a decision for yourself.
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TC
September 13th 2012 @ 5:27pm
Brewski said | September 13th 2012 @ 5:27pm | Report comment
I am not convinced that ANZAC day is the best day, but when i think about it, the ANZACS would probably have wanted people to get out , playsport, have a good time, as well as a bit of reflection perhaps, unfortunately there is none around now to tell us what they really think, but i really don’t think they would have a problem with it.
Someone being selfish and greedy perhaps, but what the AFL are doing on that day benefits the local economy, and i quote the last line of the article …….. St Kilda chief executive Michael Nettlefold and Wellington City Council Sports and Events Leader John Morrison said their deal should be mutually beneficial as a commercial and promotional venture.
Sorry Emric, you really don’t have a leg to stand on.
September 13th 2012 @ 5:37pm
Emric said | September 13th 2012 @ 5:37pm | Report comment
Brewski
The New Zealand government has stated that ANZAC day is a memorial day which is why its been refused mondayisation and the NZ government is dead right about this. Do ANZACs still exist yes they do any unit where NZ and Aus have combined forces are ANZACs and they have been involved in many wars from world war 1 through to the combined efforts in esat timor and boginville but a AFL supporter who is Australia centric wouldn’t have a clue about this would they.
You say I don’t have a leg to stand on? ANZAC day is a day of rememberence not a day for the AFL to try and promote itself to the Kiwi public.
September 13th 2012 @ 5:46pm
Emric said | September 13th 2012 @ 5:46pm | Report comment
Go Warriors – Most Kiwis are barely aware of AFL. I’m against anything which weakens our already existing sporting brands our rugby production line exists because of the system we have setup in our schools and clubs this benefits both rugby and rugby league in New Zealand if this system is weakened at all by the introduction of another sport our national prestige is damaged.
What is playing for some club compared to winning both the Rugby League World Cup and the Rugby Union World Cup – AFL is a dead sport which presents us with nothing more than the opportunity to beat Australia at one more sport.
Control to popular belief this system is fragile and the constant introduction of new sports is starting to take effect soon we won’t be good at anything because our top athletes will be spread far to thinly across to many sports.
September 13th 2012 @ 5:54pm
Brewski said | September 13th 2012 @ 5:54pm | Report comment
Emric, you really have a chip on your shoulder, i was referring to the original ANZACS, whom ANZAC is named after and have all passed away.
As a ex serviceman myself Emric, i have no problems with sport being played on ANZAC day, i have no problems with current servicemen/women and ex servicemen, having few beers or even more, going to the footy, horse racing or a picnic with their grand mother, and if they want, they can even chase some sheep around in a pair of gumboots, it’s all good.
As well as being a day of remembrance, it should be spent enjoying yourself as well., its a bit hard to stand at the shrine of remembrance with your head bowed for 10 hours.
BTW have you ever met JVGO, … .!!.
September 13th 2012 @ 6:01pm
Emric said | September 13th 2012 @ 6:01pm | Report comment
Brewski its not about the sport i presonally couldn’t care a less if the AFL want to play their sport they using ANZAC day to promote their sport to New Zealanders.
The AFL is USING the name of ANZAC and ANZAC day to PROMOTE itself to Kiwis. Holding the game on any other day i honestly couldn’t care but they are using the day as a promotional tool. I tell you what perhaps for ANZAC’s from Melbourne might not care if the AFL is using the day to make a quick buck but a lot of Kiwi ANZACs do.
September 13th 2012 @ 6:04pm
Ian Whitchurch said | September 13th 2012 @ 6:04pm | Report comment
Emric is another JVGO – someone who thinks people should be forced to play sports he likes.
September 13th 2012 @ 6:09pm
Emric said | September 13th 2012 @ 6:09pm | Report comment
Hey Brewski. For the record I also don’t like the fact that Wellington City Council is using ANZAC day to as its own promotional tool to Australians
September 13th 2012 @ 6:10pm
Brewski said | September 13th 2012 @ 6:10pm | Report comment
Emric, so no sports should be allowed to play on ANZAC day, so no race courses should allow free entry to Diggers, no shops should open, no movie theatres should give free entry to serving defence force personal or exservicemen etc etc.
Is this what you are saying ?.
Should the city of Wellington just close up for the day ?.
Your posts are becoming harder to follow !!.
September 13th 2012 @ 6:46pm
Emric said | September 13th 2012 @ 6:46pm | Report comment
Bruski – in New Zealand shops are required to stay closed on ANZAC until 1PM
September 13th 2012 @ 6:50pm
Brewski said | September 13th 2012 @ 6:50pm | Report comment
Your point ?.
September 14th 2012 @ 11:01am
Ian Whitchurch said | September 14th 2012 @ 11:01am | Report comment
Emric,
Because Wellington City Council is paying them, in the hope of getting a bunch of Aussie tourists over for the weekend.
September 16th 2012 @ 6:22pm
JVGO said | September 16th 2012 @ 6:22pm | Report comment
Emric, NZ obviously murders the Australian AFL states in international competition. The AFL states achieved zero gold medals in London, NZ got like 6 on its own I believe, an awesome effort from a very proud sporting country. NZ on its own made the soccer WC, are RU and RL world champions and would kick the AFL states in cricket too I’d say.. You definitely don’t need AFL.
September 14th 2012 @ 1:42pm
Redb said | September 14th 2012 @ 1:42pm | Report comment
Seems a tissue is in order and perhaps some valium for poor Emric.
September 14th 2012 @ 3:25pm
Brewski said | September 14th 2012 @ 3:25pm | Report comment
First it was the rate payers, then the ANZACS and the lack of respect, then it was stealing kids away to play AFL and destroy other sports and now it’s all about the shopping hours.
LOL, talk about paranoia running rampant.
September 13th 2012 @ 9:28am
Calcio said | September 13th 2012 @ 9:28am | Report comment
The difference is rugby league has been a major New Zealand sport since 1908. The AFL since… what 2013? Hardly.
September 13th 2012 @ 9:32am
Aaron said | September 13th 2012 @ 9:32am | Report comment
Playing H&A games overseas (and outside of the capital cities) is the ideal way to grow the game, far preferable to adding new teams. It’s relatively low risk and if it doesn’t work you just don’t do it again the following season.
If Super Rugby teams can travel to South Africa to play a game (with talk of expanding the comp to USA, Japan and Argentina) then AFL clubs should have no dramas travelling around SE Asia and the Pacific.
Good luck to the Saints, if this works out for them they should develop a solid Wellington following.
September 13th 2012 @ 9:43am
Tigranes said | September 13th 2012 @ 9:43am | Report comment
Aaron,
rugby is a major sport in South Africa, thats why teams can travel there.
September 13th 2012 @ 9:38am
Calcio said | September 13th 2012 @ 9:38am | Report comment
Pretending it is anything other than window dressing is typical AFL prosthelytising.
September 13th 2012 @ 10:11am
Brewski said | September 13th 2012 @ 10:11am | Report comment
And your exact opposite view is not prosthelytising !!.
September 14th 2012 @ 12:06pm
Calcio said | September 14th 2012 @ 12:06pm | Report comment
My view is one of realism. Rugby league has been a major sport, at times dominating union, in NZ since 1908 (see Auckland 1910-1920). AFL has no presence and never will have.
I suggest you look up the word again.
September 14th 2012 @ 3:21pm
Brewski said | September 14th 2012 @ 3:21pm | Report comment
Whats RL got to do with it !, this is all about a AFL game in Wellington.
September 13th 2012 @ 10:16am
clipper said | September 13th 2012 @ 10:16am | Report comment
The AFL will have to be careful to build up support and not think just because 20,000 go to a one off game means that there is enough interest for a team in an alien area. It’s one thing to get 20,000 to a game held sporadically, it’s another to get people turning up every second week.
The Kiwis do love playing to win any sport against Australia, even if there is no general interest outside of those parameters, so there would be an incentive for a team, as long as they don’t refer to it as Aussie Rules.
September 13th 2012 @ 10:48am
cos789 said | September 13th 2012 @ 10:48am | Report comment
20k is an ambitious figure for Wellington, unless you are using the GWS calculator.
September 13th 2012 @ 11:47am
clipper said | September 13th 2012 @ 11:47am | Report comment
Yes, probably ambitious – I was talking generically – just because a sport gets a good crowd in a one off game does not neccessarily mean that it will get a good following all the time.
September 13th 2012 @ 12:23pm
me, I like football said | September 13th 2012 @ 12:23pm | Report comment
That’s 30K using the Titans calculator
September 14th 2012 @ 12:07pm
Calcio said | September 14th 2012 @ 12:07pm | Report comment
The Titans calculator. As compared to the Suns? lol
September 13th 2012 @ 11:34am
TC said | September 13th 2012 @ 11:34am | Report comment
11,666 saw a practice game in Wellington in 2000.
September 13th 2012 @ 11:44am
Gav said | September 13th 2012 @ 11:44am | Report comment
I’ve heard the term “Rules Football” used, as Rugby obviously has Laws.
September 13th 2012 @ 10:24am
james tweed heads said | September 13th 2012 @ 10:24am | Report comment
i was in nz a few years back during the nrl/afl playoffs. the sport report at end of the saturday and sunday evening news bullitin did not give one mention to afl results. But all nrl games were shown live on free to air tv. just like gws, the first couple of games there was an interest but as the afl season went on gws just faded. i think the nz experiment bill be a bigger fizzer than the giants. anyway if andrew has a lazy billion to spend it is worth a shot.
September 13th 2012 @ 1:21pm
Pogo said | September 13th 2012 @ 1:21pm | Report comment
Must have been a hell of a lot of years back. Last time I recall rugby league being live on TV here I think it was the Winfield cup. Sky has had it sown up for some time. Outside of world cup years we don’t even get rugby union live.
September 13th 2012 @ 10:36am
Rough Conduct said | September 13th 2012 @ 10:36am | Report comment
Wellington will be so pleased to host a crowd of Victorians, all desperate to tell the locals about the great game of Australian Football and how they should immediately adopt the superior code. Cringe.
September 13th 2012 @ 11:01am
Pogo said | September 13th 2012 @ 11:01am | Report comment
They’ll probably put up with it if they bring enough Australian dollars with them.
September 13th 2012 @ 2:15pm
Dingo said | September 13th 2012 @ 2:15pm | Report comment
You mean, Victorians, South Australians, Western Australians, Tasmanians, Northern Territorians, New South Welshmen, Queenslanders and A.C Territrorians, all making you “cringe”. Don’t worry, being Australian and suffering cultural cringe has afflicted others who struggle with an identity crisis.
September 13th 2012 @ 3:47pm
Hamish said | September 13th 2012 @ 3:47pm | Report comment
Yes and the NRL is playing in China and US but remarkably dont cringe…
September 13th 2012 @ 3:57pm
Brewski said | September 13th 2012 @ 3:57pm | Report comment
My thoughts on the NRL playing in China is …i don’t really care, but good on em, and good luck.
But i agree with your sentiments.
September 14th 2012 @ 12:08pm
Calcio said | September 14th 2012 @ 12:08pm | Report comment
Rugby league has over a century of tradition of playing around the world. AFL = nil pre-Commission. See my original point.
September 14th 2012 @ 3:44pm
Brewski said | September 14th 2012 @ 3:44pm | Report comment
RL has a century of being played AROUND the WORLD has it ?.
September 14th 2012 @ 6:23pm
Calcio said | September 14th 2012 @ 6:23pm | Report comment
Yes it does actually. Which part are you struggling with?
The birth of international rugby league was in 1908, between Wales and NZ.
September 14th 2012 @ 6:35pm
Brewski said | September 14th 2012 @ 6:35pm | Report comment
The ROUND the WORLD part, feel free to list all of these nations, there are 195 nations or so, around the world.
I think you are the one struggling actually, but keep going !!.
September 14th 2012 @ 7:36pm
Calcio said | September 14th 2012 @ 7:36pm | Report comment
Rugby league is an international sport and no union bigot can make it otherwise unfortunately.
Grow up and learn a new song, polly.
September 14th 2012 @ 7:56pm
Brewski said | September 14th 2012 @ 7:56pm | Report comment
So, obviously your claim of RL ROUND the WORLD is wrong !!, and then you resort to name calling, RL is not much more international than Australian football in the grand scheme of things, yet you venture on to this thread demeaning a game attempting to grow it’s internnational profile.
I dont have a problem with RL playing games in China or anywhere else attempting to grow it’s game, but it seems you have a problem with the AFL playing a few games in Wellington over 3 years, and somehow i am bigot.
Bigot – intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially: one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance
September 16th 2012 @ 4:10pm
Trouble Ahead said | September 16th 2012 @ 4:10pm | Report comment
Rugby league is an international sport full stop.
The claim it is not far ahead of AFL is frankly ludicrous and shows a lack of understanding of sport outside Australia.
September 16th 2012 @ 4:21pm
Brewski said | September 16th 2012 @ 4:21pm | Report comment
Quite frankly your claim of …”RL is a international sport FULLSTOP”, shows YOUR lack of understanding of international sport.
In the grand scheme of international sport, it is not far ahead of Australian football.
September 16th 2012 @ 4:36pm
Punter said | September 16th 2012 @ 4:36pm | Report comment
Football is truly worldwide!!!!
September 16th 2012 @ 4:55pm
Brewski said | September 16th 2012 @ 4:55pm | Report comment
@Punter, small man syndrome to have pointed the obvious, i would have thought, but alas thats soccer in this country.
September 16th 2012 @ 6:37pm
Punter said | September 16th 2012 @ 6:37pm | Report comment
Na not really Brewski, every time we talk attendances in the football threads, some clown from AFL will come on & tell us how big attendances the AFL get, as if we care. Small man syndrome, yes it’s tough having the biggest sport in the world being behind RL in Sydney.
September 16th 2012 @ 6:44pm
Brewski said | September 16th 2012 @ 6:44pm | Report comment
@ punter, so i take it, your the clown here !.
You do a very good job of it.
September 18th 2012 @ 7:33pm
mick h said | September 18th 2012 @ 7:33pm | Report comment
brewski,
go and do some research about rl internationally your claim about afl internationally is a complete joke and to name an all australian side to play who may i ask. don’t worry myself and millions of other australians will be cheering the australian kangaroos pm’s x111 against png and the test match vs nz on oct 13 in townsville who will the all australian side be playing.
September 18th 2012 @ 10:03pm
Punter said | September 18th 2012 @ 10:03pm | Report comment
The All Australian side is a symbol of the top players in the AFL for the year, they aren’t actually picked to play anyone.
But you are right about Brewski though. While the RL world is tiny, it’s a damn sight lot bigger then the AFL world.
September 19th 2012 @ 8:25am
Brewski said | September 19th 2012 @ 8:25am | Report comment
Thanks for your interest guys in my posts , i have never claimed that Australian football is big internationally, what i claimed was that RL is not a whole lot bigger, and i stand by that claim.
@Punter, still being a clown i see. !.
By your own admission, you are not even interested in the AFL or the NRL, yet you post consistently here.
September 19th 2012 @ 9:50am
Punter said | September 19th 2012 @ 9:50am | Report comment
Brewski, it’s off season in the A-League & it’s finals time for both NRL & AFL, sure I have an interest.
September 14th 2012 @ 10:41am
Rough Conduct said | September 14th 2012 @ 10:41am | Report comment
Yes, cringe. Can you imagine the hoards of self-appointed international AFL ambassadors who see it as their responsibility to educate the locals and regale them with tales of “The Great Australian Game”? Why don’t we take a container full of Hey Dad! DVDs and try and flog them off while we are at it.
September 14th 2012 @ 11:06am
TC said | September 14th 2012 @ 11:06am | Report comment
RC
99.999% of the world’s population can’t kick a footy.
It is our responsibility to educate those people – to bring them up to our standard.
The citizens of Southern Australia have a role to play in that regard.
TC
September 14th 2012 @ 12:04pm
Rough Conduct said | September 14th 2012 @ 12:04pm | Report comment
Think the kiwis have you lot covered when it comes to kicking a footy.
September 14th 2012 @ 3:08pm
Brewski said | September 14th 2012 @ 3:08pm | Report comment
Makes you wonder why the All Blacks employed Micheal Byrne … ex Sydney Swan. LOL
Either one or both of your shoulders must hurt constantly.
September 15th 2012 @ 11:04am
TC said | September 15th 2012 @ 11:04am | Report comment
RC
If there is one truism that we can all accept as absolute fact, it’s that the average citizen of the world is absolutely clueless about kicking a footy. Absolutely clueless.
TC
September 14th 2012 @ 2:01pm
Redb said | September 14th 2012 @ 2:01pm | Report comment
Cringe…. nah your envious. Its why your here.