Six years on, Japan has progressed past Australia
By HuyanHammer, 14 Sep 2012 HuyanHammer is a Roar Rookie
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In the lead up to World Cup 2006, Nike ran a series of advertisements featuring the Socceroos.
In one ad a decrepit old man, named History, heckled the ‘Soccerwhos’. A player responded by belting a ball at him to comical effect. It was a challenge: time to prove history wrong.
What transpired during the World Cup was a fantastic showing by our national team, led by some of the finest players to ever play for Australia: Harry Kewell, Mark Viduka and Tim Cahill.
The 3-1 win against Japan was arguably Australia’s greatest ever achievement on the football field – particularly because we came from 1-0 down to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.
The win put Australia in a commanding position to qualify from a fairly tough group that also comprised Brazil and Croatia.
The two teams on that fateful day were relatively evenly matched, but I would have said our star players tipped it in our favour ever so slightly.
Japan had Hide Nakata, Shunsuke Nakamura and Shinji Ono, but we had genuine Premier League stars in Kewell, Viduka and Cahill.
Lucas Neill was also playing regularly in the Premier League at that time, as was Mark Schwarzer.
Unfortunately, since that time the Japanese team have gone from strength to strength. They’ve been blooding young players, and one suspects they have been able to refresh their national team so effectively because of good grassroots-level technical development.
On the other hand Australia is still relying on many of the players we called upon six years ago – and we are much poorer for it.
Of the Australian players who played in that match against Japan in 2006, Kewell, Cahill, Neill, Schwarzer, Mark Bresciano, Brett Emerton, Luke Wilkshire and Josh Kennedy are still in the mix when it comes to selecting an Australian squad.
All of them are over the age of 30 and, with the exception of Schwarzer, none of them play in a top-tier European league.
None of the players who played for Japan are still in contention for their national team. Instead they have introduced rising stars like Shinji Kagawa, Keisuke Honda and Makoto Hasebe.
The difficulty for Australia has been finding replacements for these stars of yesteryear. I’m sure if we had a Shinji Kagawa, or even a raw talent like Ryo Miyaichi, they would be selected in a heartbeat.
The argument, however, is that the talent coming through the ranks is thin.
While we have shown a reluctance to blood players early – Chris Herd anyone? – this is only part of the problem. We actually do not have any players of high technical merit coming through the ranks.
In the time Japan has produced an entirely new team, decorated with players of skill and poise like Kagawa and Honda, Australia has not turned up a single player anywhere near the calibre of Kewell, Viduka or Cahill.
Japan’s production line shows no sign of slowing down with the likes of Miyaichi coming through. The reason is simple: as a footballing nation we are far inferior technically and structurally.
Half of the current Japanese squad play in the J-League. Of the players who have moved to Europe, virtually all of them plied their trade for a few solid seasons in the J-League before the move.
There are various reasons why J-League football is of a higher level than the A-League. You only need to watch a game or two to realise we are streets behind.
We can talk about Japan having more sponsorship money, a larger population, and even patriotism. The nationalistic sentiment of Japanese people probably plays some part in players wanting to stay and give back to the league that has made them successful.
Regardless, as a sporting nation we have never made excuses as to why we cannot compete. Our 22 million people perform admirably every four years at the Olympics and our population is a fair bit larger than the Netherlands, a football powerhouse.
In the end our failure to develop technical players reflects one thing that needs to change: our attitude towards what makes a good footballer.
There are some words that you hear far too commonly while watching a game of grassroots soccer: ‘Smash him!’; ‘Run hard!’; ‘Get there!’; ‘Win the ball!’
From a very young age Australian kids are taught by coaches and parents to run hard, play hard and generally toil for the ball.
How utterly boring.
As a kid I never played football for the crunching tackles or to shoulder someone off the ball.
My idols were not the Stuart Pearces or Paolo Monteros of the world – who the hell are they? Exactly.
My idols were the Roberto Baggios, the Rivaldos and now they are Iniesta and Messi. These are players with grace and skill and courage. They don’t have the desire to chop someone down, but to ride that tackle and keep on going. So it is with most kids and adults.
I met a Japanese player at a recent futsal trial. In regard to the Australian game, he delivered a similar assessment.
“I am very surprised at the Australian style,” he said. “It is so hard, players hit you so hard. It is very strange.”
“In Japan it is not the same; in Japan we focus on passing.”
I cannot help but think there is something within the male Australian psyche that causes us to revel in being described as ‘hard’.
It is not a compliment. If we are to produce another Kewell, who is probably one of only a handful of technically gifted players Australia has ever produced, we need to change our way of thinking and prove history wrong.
In the Nike ad six years ago, the catchphrase was ‘Joga Bonito’. Old man History asserted that Australia could not play the beautiful game.
It was and still is a challenge. And it’s time to rise to it.
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September 14th 2012 @ 9:31am
Chris said | September 14th 2012 @ 9:31am | Report comment
Can I point out the obvious:
Japan has 132 million people and two team sports that people take seriously.
Australia 22 million and five team sports that people take seriously.
Given that I would think Australia is doing well to even be competitive with Japan.
September 14th 2012 @ 10:02am
AndyRoo said | September 14th 2012 @ 10:02am | Report comment
The population one is spot on but the second is not the case.
In Australia we always got fed the myth that Asian’s don’t like sport or aren’t good at it but I think the recent Olympic results prove this isn’t the case and we are not intrinsically better at sport than other nations.
In Korea there is a stack of pro/semi pro leagues for sports that wouldn’t even get on Pay TV in Australia, overall their seems a lot more professional leagues than what there are in Australia.
All week the TV runs live sport. Basketball, Volleyball, Handball, table tennis (all mens and womens) etc etc…… compared to Australia where Tuesday night prime time on a sports channel is some talking heads panel show.
Nearly every Korean I have met (man or women) can hold their own at Volleyball, table tennis or juko (volleyball crossed with soccer), active participation seems much more of a thing here (much less fat kids).
I am starting to form the theory that we had huge advantages in leisure time and nutrition over developing nations along with taking sport seriously before everyone else (the AIS) and those advantages are now disappearing fast.
September 14th 2012 @ 10:10am
nordster said | September 14th 2012 @ 10:10am | Report comment
Totally agree….this idea that australia is such an ‘overcrowded’ sporting marketplace is a myth. One peddled by folks looking to keep entrenched sports at the top of the pecking order i might add! Football has plenty of competition from other sports around the world…another myth is that the reason they follow the game is for lack of choice. So not true. Australians are just a little too lazy in exercising their’s.
(their choice as well as their backsides probably)
September 14th 2012 @ 1:41pm
HuyanHammer said | September 14th 2012 @ 1:41pm | Report comment
It is also important to note that we have an adundance of fields and green space for people to play sports like football. This is not the case in many Asian countries.
September 14th 2012 @ 2:05pm
AndyRoo said | September 14th 2012 @ 2:05pm | Report comment
That is certainly the case in China as I have heard getting access to grounds is a big problem and really kills amateur football.
In the town I live every school has a football field, some of them are undersize and pretty bumpy but they get heavy use. One of them has an artificial pitch and every single afternoon it is covered in little kids attending “football school/academy”.
September 14th 2012 @ 2:28pm
Axelv said | September 14th 2012 @ 2:28pm | Report comment
Fields are no barrier, you can play football in the street!
It certainly doesn’t prevent the Brazilian slums from producing the best players in world football.
September 15th 2012 @ 2:15am
Tom Callaghan said | September 15th 2012 @ 2:15am | Report comment
Ah! the poor little Australia argument again!
September 14th 2012 @ 9:39am
Vic said | September 14th 2012 @ 9:39am | Report comment
We have slipped, the Japanese has gone forward.
It is thanks to the good people at Soccer Australia from the mid 1990s till just recently(remember the good old ‘rump board’?). They were broke and had no vision on taking the game forward but the usual politics we had for the 50 years previous to that.
They seem to be turning things around again, but we might miss a couple of Cups until we regroup. Not exactly what soccer needs in Oz. Shame as I was really keen on going to Brazil. Might have to wait until Russia.
September 14th 2012 @ 9:40am
nordster said | September 14th 2012 @ 9:40am | Report comment
The strength of the j-league is that pre 2006 they were much more focused on laying the groundwork, and utilising the national team to do so. They put their stocks in local players who were key men for their clubs, rather than meekishly selecting anyone with an overseas club sticker on them ….regardless of their status in that team.
In the short term that was bad for the blue samurai. We showed that in 06. But they sure are seeing the benefits now. If we do the same, by 2018 and 22 we could be pushing their level. They will hopefully be even further by then, showing us the way to become top 4 internationally.
They have half their NT from the local league now. That could change as their players are more in demand. But the point is they were also playing their local league players some years ago too. Japan took a punt on the future then, we should do the same now. The one thing holding us back from doing so imo is the short league season.
September 14th 2012 @ 1:48pm
HuyanHammer said | September 14th 2012 @ 1:48pm | Report comment
They certainly show a lot of faith in their local league. It has to be noted though that we want to develop a virtuous cycle rather than a vicious one.
A virtuous cycle could start anywhere, but we need courage and determination to start it. E.g. A-League players start being picked for the national team. This inspires young people to choose soccer as their sport of choice and fight for a place in the A-League. This then helps drive higher levels of coaching resulting in better young players. This then results in better players coming through the A-League which feeds back to the first point: more A-League players being picked for the national team.
Alternatively it could start with more investment into a paradigm shift in grassroots development. This I feel could have a greater impact, but is more expensive and difficult to implement. Better coaching leads to better young players. These players enter the A-League and improve the competition. More players from the A-League get picked for the national team which in turn drives the first point, more interest at grassroots levels and better young players.
I admit it’s an oversimplification, but we need to implement change and drastic change at some level.
We seem to currently have a fairly vicious cycle of a local league that is viewed as mediocre resulting in little international recognition – including from our national team coaches – which drives young players overseas and actually makes it harder to pick a national team. Does Osieck have time to keep up to date with the big European leagues, the minor European leagues, the Asian leagues and the A-League? Our players are dispersed through all of them.
September 14th 2012 @ 9:49am
Az said | September 14th 2012 @ 9:49am | Report comment
still think the inability of oseick to introduce younger players has hindered us…
the fact that young players get international football experience can give them confidence and the ability to shine on the international stage (and be seen by scouts/coaches the world over). The fact that holger still thinks a 30 something year old bresciano is better at playing a holding midfield role than a early 20′s chris herd (playing premier league) is a disgrace, and shows our system is flawed.. with coaches opting for results over youth intergration.
September 14th 2012 @ 1:38pm
HuyanHammer said | September 14th 2012 @ 1:38pm | Report comment
That is the crux of it. Young players have to be given a chance to improve.
Even if our present performance suffers, there’s no point playing guys well into their thirties – their abilities are going to atrophy and we’re still two years away from the World Cup (if we qualify).
September 14th 2012 @ 10:01am
Fussball ist unser leben said | September 14th 2012 @ 10:01am | Report comment
Nice article & agree with many of the sentiments.
Have we slipped behind? Don’t know.
I’ve always thought JPN has always been on a much higher technical & tactical level than AUS, but JPN lacked mental strength at international level … basically, the Samurai Blue would choke at the World Cup.
But, no more. Now JPN has added physical strength & mental strength to its formidable repertoire and, as far as I’m concerned, JPN should fear no one at international level … although their central defenders seem fragile. But, that’s being extra picky since every team – even ESP – is not perfect.
AUS needs to realise physical & mental strength alone is not enough at international level – we need technical & tactical improvements.
September 14th 2012 @ 10:06am
Vic said | September 14th 2012 @ 10:06am | Report comment
Of course we have slipped. How many Socceroos have we got that are starting players for EPL clubs nowadays. We had a team of them a decade ago.
Do we even have a couple of strikers getting regular games for serious clubs nowadays? No wonder we cannot score goals.
Our team is average, the greatest coach in the world cannot do much with this lot. Talk about turning a sow’s ear into a silk purse.
We need to learn from this, keep building those A-League academies and get back to where we belong. Getting whipped by midgets is a bit embarrassing.
September 14th 2012 @ 10:41am
Fussball ist unser leben said | September 14th 2012 @ 10:41am | Report comment
“Getting whipped by midgets is a bit embarrassing”
Having followed football for 40 years, I’ve realised the folly of dismissing any international opponent as “a midget”.
1. When AUS beats GER – in GER – the whingers said: “it’s only a friendly”
2. When AUS loses to SCO – in SCO – the whingers said: “it’s the end of the world, we lost a friendly”
3. When AUS beats an Asian opponent in a competitive match, the whingers say: “you’ve only beaten a midget”
4. When AUS loses to an Asian opponent in a competitive match, the whingers say: “end of the world, you’ve lost to a midget”
Let’s face it the AUS NT is in a no-win situation with those, who like to whinge.
All I know for a fact is I watched AUS try to qualify for 7 FIFA WC and, each time, I came away devastated.
In the past 7 years, I’ve watched AUS try to qualify for 2 FIFA WCs and, each time, I’ve come home jubilant.
I’m sorry that I can’t find anything to whinge about in relation to AUS football – at club or international level.
September 14th 2012 @ 11:02am
nordster said | September 14th 2012 @ 11:02am | Report comment
The whingers or critics are just louder about it. But that one distorts internet debate in general i guess. There’s a silent majority of us who are just waiting out the cycle…and hoping for the clubs to be more free to invest in the beginnings of academies over minimum wage levels and CBAs.
September 14th 2012 @ 11:17am
Vic said | September 14th 2012 @ 11:17am | Report comment
End of the day this is good for the game. It will force standards to lift. We do not want it easy. We want it tough. That is why we bailed out of the useless Oceania mire of a confederation. Why that exists is beyond me. A convenient dumping ground for the garbage of world soccer.
To be honest if you had a choice between playing in the South American section or the Asian I would have gone for the South American because their culture is more closely aligned to our own and they are superbly talented so it would force standards to improve in a generation even if we did not get to the major competitions. So with the Asian sides giving us a good run, it will serve us well long term in playing standard improvements overall, but cashflow into FFA will slow down.
September 14th 2012 @ 2:13pm
Bondy. said | September 14th 2012 @ 2:13pm | Report comment
N.F.Idea.
September 14th 2012 @ 10:04am
Fussball ist unser leben said | September 14th 2012 @ 10:04am | Report comment
Interesting to note that England, the country that seems to have had the biggest influence on AUS football culture – on & off the park – is also facing similar problems – an abundance of physical strength & mental toughness/will to win, but lagging behind in the areas of technique & tactics.
A must-read article that has so many implications for AUS football: http://footballspeak.com/post/2012/09/13/Why-England-cant-compete.aspx
September 14th 2012 @ 12:57pm
whiskeymac said | September 14th 2012 @ 12:57pm | Report comment
Nice article and some good posts, especially andyroos on his experiences in korea etc.
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Fuss, yes, Sir Trevor Brooking has been on about this for years. The parallels in technique etc are interesting but the English system still manages to throw out some very very good players despite it all and but for some penalties over the years would have been considered in a much better light perhaps.
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It seems to me sports follow a cycle and as nordster said we will wait this one out (as we will for the cricket, union and other sports etc). Just as formations come and go into fashion so countries rise and drop. The ability for countries like ours, with small populations in comparison to Japan, UK, Germany, Brasil, Itlay and France etc, is to do it smart so when there is a doldrum like period we have the plan and ability to still compete. The cliche of good teams beating good players is valid. For this the plans, infrastructure and courage from the FFA and employees (Holger) need to be “on the ball” and the game needs the reconnect from top to bottom many believe is missing.
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So far we have CCM and Jets with plans in place for academies and training grounds etc. Who else? These are arguably two of the smaller clubs. Berger lambasted the coaching here recently and he should know. So, is it better to pay 4m for ADP or 4m for a better YT set up? Arguments are valid for both but for many (and not necessarily SFC or MV) the money is better spent on youth IMO.
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But its not all doom and gloom, I still think the tumblers half full, as there have been steps taken to remedy all this. Some small, some big but all in the right direction. Its just not happening fast enough for some (and if we miss Brasil prob a lot including Frank and Mr Gallop) – but this was always on the cards.
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Many of us knew the NT was going to have its 7 lean years – thankfully we can still paper over the cracks (or is it rub ointment over the stretch mark after the borth of the HAL) until some of those players we hear about in clubs like Borussia, Aston Villa, Celtic, Spurs, Red Star and Atalanta/ Juve finally get their chance.
September 14th 2012 @ 12:12pm
Nathan of Perth said | September 14th 2012 @ 12:12pm | Report comment
Yeah, can’t really argue with that. Japan have clearly edged the other nations of Asia.
September 14th 2012 @ 12:29pm
AGO74 said | September 14th 2012 @ 12:29pm | Report comment
At present, South Korea would not be far behind Japan. They both made it to 2nd round at last World Cup and Japan could only beat Korea in Asian Cup semi last year on penalties.
September 14th 2012 @ 12:36pm
Fussball ist unser leben said | September 14th 2012 @ 12:36pm | Report comment
As we sit in for a Samurai Blue Love Fest … it’s worth mentioning that, at the 2011 Asian Cup
Group phase: JPN needed a 90′ goal to avoid losing to JOR; and
QF: JPN needed a 90′ goal to clinch the winner against QAT & avoid Extra Time.
How would fans have viewed the same scenarios if it were AUS, instead of JPN?
September 14th 2012 @ 1:02pm
whiskeymac said | September 14th 2012 @ 1:02pm | Report comment
Yes was a good game but the marked difference in time now is we have the same team and look set to have it in 2013… they are evolving.
September 14th 2012 @ 1:20pm
wisey_9 said | September 14th 2012 @ 1:20pm | Report comment
we look set to have the same team in 2013 AND 2014… that’s the big concern…
September 14th 2012 @ 1:30pm
HuyanHammer said | September 14th 2012 @ 1:30pm | Report comment
While you raise a valid point regarding results, as whiskeymac and wisey have pointed out, it’s more about refreshing the squad with new players. Or old guard can’t play on forever – even if there is no-one up to their standard at their prime, the old guard are only going to lose their ability over time.
Also, in relation to results, Australia recently lost 2-1 to Jordan. Japan beat tham 6-0.
September 14th 2012 @ 2:33pm
Fussball ist unser leben said | September 14th 2012 @ 2:33pm | Report comment
“Australia recently lost 2-1 to Jordan. Japan beat tham 6-0″
Yes, indeed. I saw that game. First, JPN was playing at home; AUS played away. JPN has played 3 matches at home out of 4 so far, I’m keen to see how they travel.
At 2-0 down, JOR kept attacking & received a very dodgy 2nd yellow and played with 10 men for 63′.
September 14th 2012 @ 4:17pm
Nelson said | September 14th 2012 @ 4:17pm | Report comment
I saw the game as well and there was nothing wrong with that yellow, from memory. Japan were completely dominating before that in any case.
September 14th 2012 @ 2:01pm
AndyRoo said | September 14th 2012 @ 2:01pm | Report comment
If that was OZ I would think….
1 That is better than losing 2-1
2 Glad we got the winner before extra time.
The only thing better than an early winner is a late winner
As long as Australia wins and looks likely to keep on winning I am happy.
September 14th 2012 @ 2:29pm
Fussball ist unser leben said | September 14th 2012 @ 2:29pm | Report comment
AndyRoo .. were you that full of praise when AUS got a very late winner against THA; or the lucky late winner against BHR?
September 14th 2012 @ 2:34pm
AndyRoo said | September 14th 2012 @ 2:34pm | Report comment
I might have been pretty sad/despondent/grumpy before the winners (I remember rushing to the shops for alcohol during the half time break of the Thai game) but yes, I went to bad happy those nights.
Especially so after Bresciano’s winner against Bahrain
Obviously you start getting worried that the team might not win the world cup after struggling to win a home game against Thailand but overall I was very happy.
September 14th 2012 @ 1:44pm
ChrisW said | September 14th 2012 @ 1:44pm | Report comment
Zullo, Devere, Mcgowan, Babalj, Herd, Williams,Rukavitsa, Lowry, Oar and Troisi, we should be giving these guys more game time to improve there ability as well as there standings in there domestic teams.
September 14th 2012 @ 2:42pm
wisey_9 said | September 14th 2012 @ 2:42pm | Report comment
I agree with all of the above except for the “there”s
September 14th 2012 @ 4:20pm
Nelson said | September 14th 2012 @ 4:20pm | Report comment
When they’re not injured, or when they have settled into their new teams, for sure. Ruka is in the squad, but when I’ve seen him come on, he hasn’t really showed much. But he need the chance to get his feet wet.
September 14th 2012 @ 4:37pm
Tex Redmund said | September 14th 2012 @ 4:37pm | Report comment
Personally, I am really tiring of the ‘beautiful football’ mantra being espoused as the only noble manner bywhich to take to the pitch. Lets consider those currently capable internationally… Spain, Holland, Portugal, Brazil, Argentina – Germany for all its rich and magnificent football history has only now managed to join these ranks. Why this few? Because it is very, very difficult to achieve at club level where you can identify and target signings, let alone at international level where you are confined to the cattle the nations systems have produced.
The current Australian administration (and fans) have to accept the teams capabailities, its strengths and weaknesses, and play to them. We are not capable of the highly technical play currently, and so the more physical approach is both pragmatic and has proven to be effective for the last 2 World Cup campaigns.
As for the future – no argument that Japan is infinitely ahead in its development. The JFA is enormously resourced and has impressively managed to align all J-League clubs to an ethos focussing towards a national quality goal. Each J-League club is required to have junior development sides by various age-groups, each with their own specialised coaching staff. They annually contest per geographic region to identify the most talented players – before these progress to annual national testing. The identified elite then commit to 6 years of formal schooling, including daily football tutoring – with an emphasis on technical skills.
This is an outstanding system which as you outline, is already paying rich dividends. With this system in place I would not be surprised if Japan seriously contends for the World Cup within the next 20 years. Australia has a national curiculum but without enormous resourcing such as Japan’s, starting from such a low base and with a comparatively very small pool of players, without some revolutionary evolution (which Australia has acheived in other sports) we can only hope to sporadically match top 15 teams, and Japan will be one of them.
September 19th 2012 @ 11:56am
bvanega said | September 19th 2012 @ 11:56am | Report comment
Very good Huyan. VERY GOOD!.