AFL, NRL Grand Finals: learning from each other’s mistakes
By Chris Chard, 27 Sep 2012 Chris Chard is a Roar Expert
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Now that the sporting planets have properly aligned themselves and fans can enjoy an entire weekend of grand finals without having to leave the lounge, the inevitable comparisons are destined to arise between the AFL and NRL’s big day.
Whilst the two sporting bodies will claim to not be too concerned with what the other is wearing to the big dance, and adopt their best surly teenage ‘don’t even care’ attitude, come Monday morning each will be hoping to have put on the better show.
And by better, I mean the least ridiculed.
The truth is both days over the years have had a few awkward moments, and could benefit from learning from one anothers failures. You know, a batmobile here, a hovercraft there.
Just think, if Andrew Demetriou had taken a moment last year to ask David Gallop, “Can that angry, fat bloke still hold a tune?” the whole Meatloaf debacle could have been avoided. Like actual meatloaf.
Hence, here are some things that the NRL Grand Final could learn from the AFL decider. And vice versa.
Lessons for the NRL
As bagging out the NRL grand final has rocketed from Roy and HG niche to national past time thanks largely to Billy Idol, this is probably a good place to start.
The acknowledgement of traditions is something the AFL Grand Final does well. Some of these are fairly major things, like say, playing the game at the same time every year so fans actually know what time it starts. Others are the little touches that the fans love.
Let’s take for example the sprint at half time. Or the song ‘Up there Cazaly’. If you heard this song anywhere outside of a football oval in September you would probably walk in front of a bus out of sheer embarrassment, yet for some reason it hits the spot. It is the eggnog of sports anthems.
And guess what? Rugby league has a little ditty of its own, ‘Simply the Best’. When was the last time it got a run though eh? I’m not saying they need to get the Queen of Bartertown out to sing it, but every rugby league fan loves that song. So why not roll it out?
While they’re at it fan favourites like painted in-goals, a decent grand final patch on the jersey and introducing the players one by one onto the field would be appreciated.
On top of this the weekly build up to the AFL bounce seems to flow in a more natural progression, rather than the strange mish-mash of breakfasts, montages, musical acts, montages, crowd competitions, montages and news bulletins in the lead up to the NRL’s kick off.
Lessons for AFL
While the NRL Grand Final at times seems to suffer from a lack of attention to detail, the AFL decider is treated with all the reverence of a business meeting with Abraham Lincoln’s Dad’s boss.
This is all well and good when some serious analysis is going down or the old blokes are going around in utes, but when you’re watching some pimply kid deliver the premiership cup by trapeze or the commentators read out tweets from viewers at home it appears a trifle overwrought.
And speaking of commentators how many of them are there? I know tickets are hard to come by but letting sixteen different blokes chuck their two cents in makes it like the dinner table on Christmas day with the Melbourne Cup being called over the top.
The only thing there’s more of than commentators is songs. I realise I’ve just given Cazaly a wrap, he’s cool, as is the anthem. Team songs? Perfectly fine too. PROVIDED pre-match they are only sung by some bloke in a baritone voice over the ground PA, once, and not being murdered by a couple of blokes in skinny jeans from some half-arsed talent show.
Yes, unnecessary bloating is the AFLs biggest issue, and some of the NRL’s streamlining would be beneficial. Take the team photo before the players get on the field, give them a ring instead of a medal to speed things up post match and don’t let the Lionel Ritchie’s of the world sneak in an entire album set before the start.
So while they are in essence competitors for athletes and our fan finances, I think by working more closely on the above issues a greater level of respect may be fostered between the two codes.
Well, at least until the TV ratings are announced anyway.
Follow Chris on Twitter: @Vic_Arious
Chris Chard is a sports humour writer commenting on the often absurd nature of professional sport. A rugby league fan boy with a good blend of youth and experience taking things one week at a time, Chris has written for The Roar, Rugby League Player Magazine, US Sports Downunder, the QRL and People. Tweet him @Vic_Arious
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September 27th 2012 @ 6:41am
Robert said | September 27th 2012 @ 6:41am | Report comment
Spot on my friend.SAME TIME EVERY YEAR.Its all channel nines fault.Plus Paint the whole of the in goals.
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September 27th 2012 @ 10:58am
damoinaus said | September 27th 2012 @ 10:58am | Report comment
Yes! The NRL should paint Winfield Cup ’12 in red paint in the in-goals…just for nostalgia’s sake.
They should also re-introduce John Williams’ “Olympic Spirit” when the players run on, before the anthem. They used to back in the 90′s, and it popped up in the 2010 GF when the trophy was delivered by helicopter. Spine tingly-dingly.
What’s the song they use when the players run on these days? They use the same one in Origins and the GF…not nearly as good.
September 27th 2012 @ 11:03am
Chris Chard said | September 27th 2012 @ 11:03am | Report comment
Not bad…played a couple of alright games for the Sharks too has John
September 27th 2012 @ 3:29pm
apaway said | September 27th 2012 @ 3:29pm | Report comment
It’s called “Come With Me” by Puff Daddy featuring Jimmy Page.
September 28th 2012 @ 9:39am
damoinaus said | September 28th 2012 @ 9:39am | Report comment
Right you are…
The Puff Daddy song just comes off as tryhard compared to “Olympic Spirit”
September 27th 2012 @ 3:47pm
Alex said | September 27th 2012 @ 3:47pm | Report comment
Oh this must be brought back, not just for GF’s either. I grew up on this stuff during Origins and Semis and this song always added to the occasion so much that big NRL games just don’t seem as big as they were in the 90s.
September 27th 2012 @ 8:22am
Mark Young said | September 27th 2012 @ 8:22am | Report comment
Abe Lincoln’s Dad’s Boss!!!
It always strikes me that the AFL takes their Grand Final ceremonys waaay to seriously while the NRL doesn’t take them anywhere near seriously enough.
September 27th 2012 @ 9:12am
Happy Hooker said | September 27th 2012 @ 9:12am | Report comment
Chris, you omitted the obligatory rendition of Hunters & Collectors Holy Grail (which I love).
September 27th 2012 @ 9:16am
Chris Chard said | September 27th 2012 @ 9:16am | Report comment
Ahhh yes, sorry Happy Hooker-that makes the cut too. Great GF tune.
Can’t remember if it got played last year though?
September 27th 2012 @ 10:11am
Australian Rules said | September 27th 2012 @ 10:11am | Report comment
No, it was 2009…Seymour played that 1 song…then Barnsey sang No Second Prize…then Whispering sang You’re the Voice.
It really is that easy.
September 27th 2012 @ 10:53am
Happy Hooker said | September 27th 2012 @ 10:53am | Report comment
Mate, I can’t remember what happened yesterday, let alone last year. Unfortunately, the Meat’s performance last year is my only memory of the pre-match.
September 27th 2012 @ 12:13pm
Chris said | September 27th 2012 @ 12:13pm | Report comment
Holy Grail is rubbish. The only decent part is a blatant rip off of “More than a feeling”.
September 27th 2012 @ 12:44pm
damoinaus said | September 27th 2012 @ 12:44pm | Report comment
Holy Grail , what a great great song…brings back memories of huge finals moments like Nick Davis’s last second goal against Geelong.
Unfortunately, it was Channel 10′s AFL Finals signature song. Channel 7 wouldn’t have a bar of it, they’re too busy hamming it up with MegaWall.
September 27th 2012 @ 10:13am
Australian Rules said | September 27th 2012 @ 10:13am | Report comment
“It is the eggnog of sports anthems”…couldn’t have said it better.
Funnily enough, Mike Brady’s other famous footy song, the perfectly titled “One Day In September”, has never been performed at the Grand Final.
September 27th 2012 @ 10:27am
Timmypig said | September 27th 2012 @ 10:27am | Report comment
Cheese, schmaltz, boganesque glitz and high camp; on any other day it would be cringeworthy, but GF day it’s expected. One thing – in all seriousness – both could improve (and ARU as well, in fact especially ARU) is the national anthem.
Am I the only one who can not stand the mangling of Advance Australia Fair? The first 2 bars (the opening bit before the singing starts) are for trumpet and trombone, but bear no resemblance to what normally comes out. But what grinds my gears is the last part, we all know it: “In joyful strains then let us sing, Advance Australia Fair” sung at the same cadence and beat. “Ad-vance Austra-lia Fair”. This has become “Ad Vaaaaaaannnnce – - – Austraaaaaaaaaaaa – - – Lia Fair” da da da daaa duh duh duh daaaaa fiddle fiddle fiddle.
The Commonwealth owns the copyright and it is clear that: “The tune or the words of the Australian National Anthem may not be modified, parodied or demeaned”.
So on whose authority have those changes been made?
OK OK I’ll go now and take my pills.
September 27th 2012 @ 10:45am
JH said | September 27th 2012 @ 10:45am | Report comment
Simple solution: Don’t sing Advance Australia Fair. There is no law (that I know of) that makes it required to be sung.
In place of our (not so) beloved national anthem, here are some options:
Troy Cassar Daley to sing Waltzing Matilda
The Seekers to do I am Australian (wasn’t this done in the 90s??)
Hugh Jackman to sing I am Australian
John Williamson True Blue.
Problem solved.
Sure it’ll be bold and they’ll cop a heap of criticism for it but I reckon most people would prefer it. And maybe it may lead to the song being scrapped as our national anthem (that’s another debate though)
September 27th 2012 @ 12:20pm
John D said | September 27th 2012 @ 12:20pm | Report comment
No way, JH. I am not a big fan of the national anthem, but it wouldn’t be AFL Grand Final Day without it.
September 27th 2012 @ 3:28pm
apaway said | September 27th 2012 @ 3:28pm | Report comment
Could we keep John Williamson as far away from a major sporting contest as humanly possible, please?
September 27th 2012 @ 12:11pm
Chris said | September 27th 2012 @ 12:11pm | Report comment
Simply the Best v. That’s My Team.
Half time sing off?
September 27th 2012 @ 3:06pm
Col Quinn said | September 27th 2012 @ 3:06pm | Report comment
Bring back Julie Anthony
September 27th 2012 @ 10:08pm
Floyd Calhoun said | September 27th 2012 @ 10:08pm | Report comment
Agree with nearly all of the above. The English FA Cup Final has the right idea. No danger of Meatloaf or Billy Idol polluting that grand occasion!!