Sydney FC held back by attitude and disclipline problems
Roar Pro By Beardan, 28 Jan 2013 Beardan is a Roar Pro
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Melbourne Victory have defeated Sydney FC 3-1 in a convincing win in at AAMI Park. Sydney’s loss is largely due to a lack of discipline.
The Sky Blues spent the entire second half whinging and arguing with the referee.
They finished with nine men which was an indication of their ill-discipline. Their lack of respect for the referee was disgraceful. This is an over-paid team, with over inflated egos who are embarrassing themselves.
The three worst offenders were Terry McFlynn, Alessandro Del Piero and Joel Griffiths.
McFlynn is out of his depth at this level. Del Piero and Griffiths were also guilty of concentrating more on complaining than digging themselves out of a hole.
Del Piero may have been part of a winning World Cup squad, may have won titles with Juventus, may have scored four goals last weekend, but the most important thing this bloke needs to do is look at the A-League ladder and see where his under-performing team is coming.
He will notice there are seven teams above him and only two below. Part of the reason is because his poor attitude hasn’t been a help at Sydney FC. He is not acting like an experienced leader, more like a bloke who is being spoilt off the field, which is translating to someone with a bad attitude on it.
The top six in the A-League is a joke. The top four are a long way ahead of the other six teams. The only reason every team can still make the finals is because 60% of the teams get through, where it should be 40%.
Out of the teams that can win the competition, you can dismiss Adelaide. United have a coach who has run out of ideas and his team is starting to go backwards.
Central Coast Mariners are 0 from 3 in grand finals so you can forget about them. Even if they make it to the final match it is likely that they will choke.
That leaves Melbourne Victory and West Sydney as the only two genuine contenders to take out the title.
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January 28th 2013 @ 11:12am
Atawhai Drive said | January 28th 2013 @ 11:12am | Report comment
Adelaide don’t just have a coach who’s run out of ideas, they don’t have a coach full stop.
No surprise that Kosmina has quit a chronically unhappy ship.
Question now is who will be masochistic enough to want the job?
January 28th 2013 @ 11:53am
EdoH said | January 28th 2013 @ 11:53am | Report comment
When Adelaide was on top, and still is, no one was praising or blaming Kosmina. It is time the players look in the mirror. I don’t necessarily like Kosmina, but he has done a good job so far. They just depend far too much on Vidosic.
January 28th 2013 @ 11:53am
EdoH said | January 28th 2013 @ 11:53am | Report comment
When Adelaide was on top, and still is, no one was praising or blaming Kosmina. It is time the players look in the mirror. I don’t necessarily like Kosmina, but he has done a good job so far. They just depend far too much on Vidosic.
January 28th 2013 @ 12:46pm
Beardan said | January 28th 2013 @ 12:46pm | Report comment
Kosmina falling on his sword could be the thing Adelaide needs to get their season back on track. He had hit the wall as a coach and has done the best thing for the team. Well done Kossy.
January 28th 2013 @ 11:44am
EdoH said | January 28th 2013 @ 11:44am | Report comment
What a lot of hogwash. DelPiero was fouled three times by the same Victory playe and there was no second yeloe card. Sydney did not play well, and yes they should stick to playing and not expect refery to protect them, but dismissing ADP as whinger, is disrespectfu.
January 28th 2013 @ 12:34pm
Beardan said | January 28th 2013 @ 12:34pm | Report comment
when you spend 45 minutes whinging and carrying on, you deserve to be labelled as a whinger. He showed a lack of respect to the referee, now thats disrespectful.
January 28th 2013 @ 8:47pm
EdoH said | January 28th 2013 @ 8:47pm | Report comment
Did you say referees? That is the week link in ALeague. Quality and consistency is inconsistant. ADP is the best thing that has happen in the history of Football in Aus land. Jelausy aside, you wish you had ADP in your team, and I wish I had your team. Regardless, I M true blue, Sydney FC for ever!
January 28th 2013 @ 3:24pm
Sam said | January 28th 2013 @ 3:24pm | Report comment
Yikes. I’ve seen better, more incisive analysis than this on BigFooty and FourFourTwo. One of the worst articles to grace The Roar. Adds nothing, offers no viewpoint. Sounds like my dad after 4 beers.
January 28th 2013 @ 3:37pm
stanofheart said | January 28th 2013 @ 3:37pm | Report comment
at last someone has come out and said the truth.d.p yes has been a great player and stil contributes some great skills and passes,but from his second game in he complains,complains complains,in my book thats a true pro of a whinger,now it looks like griffith is following his lead.you only have to look at d.p’s past games to veryfie that.
January 28th 2013 @ 5:36pm
NUFCMVFC said | January 28th 2013 @ 5:36pm | Report comment
Anyone in the top four can win it in terms of the Premierships. As far as Grand Finals go CCM have a fair bit of experience and a point to prove so I wouldn’t write them off at all.
Nor Adelaide as they are used to pressure situations in the ACL, but their form is slipping so they may fall of the pace
In fact given the fact that anyone in this league can beat any other team on their day, even the teams that finish 5th or 6th can achieve it, even though they have fallen behind the top four quite substantially
Agree that finals should go to top four, but then again I think the finals may need to be scrapped and replaced with an FFA Cup
Agree, following Griffiths foul on Milligan in the first few minutes, he and ADP were complaining for much of the day. ADP did himself no favours in the way he theatrically rolled around towards the end of the game. Guess it was just the frustration at being behind and stifled out of the game. MVFC were well prepared. Perhaps it’s the issue of getting a bit heady after the 7-1 win last week and they have lost their focus amidst all the fawning media hype
January 28th 2013 @ 8:12pm
Beardan said | January 28th 2013 @ 8:12pm | Report comment
The problem is if the 5th or 6th team get on an unlikely roll they could get through to the Grand Final. Its unlikely but it shouldnt be allowed to happen given how the top 4 have been far better than the rest this season.
Right on the money NUFCMVFC with your last paragraph. Farina, who im sure wont do it, needs to pull these big mouths into line. Everyone seems scared to stand up to Del Piero because of who he is, but his behavior was out of line on Saturday.
January 28th 2013 @ 8:51pm
Robbie Mase said | January 28th 2013 @ 8:51pm | Report comment
You disgust me. I can’t believe you have written Del Piero has a “poor attitude”. He has had anything but. Unlike most high-paid footballers he is modest and humble and he is an inspiration.
Futhermore, not even being a Mariners fan, I am disgusted you have written them off. Being the number one team in the a-league on the table and in form I think you deserve to give them and the A-League as a whole more respect.
This is a very average article in content and writing ability. I hope you don’t write any more articles for The Roar
January 28th 2013 @ 8:59pm
Beardan said | January 28th 2013 @ 8:59pm | Report comment
Instead of getting so fired up Robbie, like a pork chop, you should go back and watch the second half of the match between Melbourne and Sydney. That might change your opinion on that whinger Del Piero.
Maybe you missed the stat Central Coast are 0 from 3 in Grand finals and a few years ago led a Grand Final 2-0 with 2 minutes to go and managed to stuff it up from there. Maybe you were busy with your head in the sand during that great Grand Final.
You need to learn more about football. Next time I write, come back and learn some more. You obviously need a few lessons.
January 29th 2013 @ 1:24pm
Melange said | January 29th 2013 @ 1:24pm | Report comment
Did you write this really beleiving in your analysis or are you trolling? Robbie is absolutely right. Your analysis is shallow and it seems emotionally based.
I have not watched all of Del Piero’s games but I have watched a majority and he has not displayed the same poor discipline in any of the other games I’ve watched. I think he was bad the other night but certainly not consistently, anything but. So from what I can see you’re basing your findings on a limited set of data, I may be wrong but your article does only cite this game as an example.
Did you watch both teams? Victory were just as lucky to finish with 11. As for lack of respect for referees, you are right, but to signal out Sydney is ridiculous. The sooner FFA take a stand and sanction players who make contact with a referee the better, it’s disgusting how bad it’s becoming this season with often 3 or 4 players surrounding a referee after free kicks are awarded.
Probably think more broadly about the top 6. Without investigating it I think it is likely the format suits Fox. I don’t like it, but I do like the money Fox pays for the sport and am happy to live with it. Why such a big deal anyway? We duly award the Premier and a team coming from 6th would replicate the fariytales all the “we have to do things like they do in in Europe” tragics that Cup competitions throw up.
“Central Coast Mariners are 0 from 3 in grand finals so you can forget about them. Even if they make it to the final match it is likely that they will choke.” Lost 1-0 to Syd in a closely fought game, no choke. Lost 1-0 to Newg in a closely fought game, didn’t play well and still ran Newc close, were denied a clear penalty in the dying stages, no choke. 2-0 up when Bris score a goal from an offside then blatantly foul a player to win the ball before the equaliser, penalties a lottery where, sure, individuals can choke, as a team – NO CHOKE. At this stage are also favourites for the Premiership, not a bad title to win if they can (making it back to back premierships).
“That leaves Melbourne Victory and West Sydney as the only two genuine contenders to take out the title.” True, they are contenders, but if either get just one or 2 injuries in their back lines then don’t place any bets, particularly on Victory.
“You need to learn more about football” – probably you should write a little bit about football with facts to back the trolling, oops sorry, “analysis”.
It’s hard to accept criticism sometimes, and both mine and Robbie’s could be more diplomatic, but you have written a bad one on this occassion.
January 29th 2013 @ 2:20pm
Beardan said | January 29th 2013 @ 2:20pm | Report comment
If we look at ADP on the weekend, his attitude was poor. Like you i havent seen all of Sydney’s matches but Ive seen enough to see he could be doing alot more as a leader.
I agree we need less players surrounding referee’s Not only in Australian football but world football. Its disgraceful what referee’s have to put up with. Even the way Beauchamp was going off when the Heart were given a penalty was way over the top. Something needs to be done but the FFA will do nothing just like FIFA on this topic no doubt.
The big deal about the finals is teams who are consistent throughout the year should be rewarded more than the teams who have shown no consistency, like East Sydney FC.
I have found your comments to be quite constructive besides the silly troll comments. Well thought out and interesting.
January 29th 2013 @ 4:32pm
Melange said | January 29th 2013 @ 4:32pm | Report comment
Forgive my troll comments, I try not to be personal when others take the time to share their opinions.
January 30th 2013 @ 7:03pm
Robbie Mase said | January 30th 2013 @ 7:03pm | Report comment
Yeah my bad being a Sydney FC supporter I was a bit annoyed. I could have more been more constructive in my criticism.
Don’t forget this is the Del Piero who served Juventus for 19 years and chose Sydney FC over Liverpool FC because of the Heysel Stadium tragedy (where 39 Juventus fans were killed and 600 were injured as a result of the actions of Liverpool fans). A lot of greedy professional footballers would have chosen Liverpool for the hefty salary but Del Piero chose Sydney because of his heart.
Del Piero came out to Australia, a growing football market, with a significant wage cut to help inspire the football community here and promote the game on a relatively new frontier (as Beckham did with LA Galaxy in the US).
He is a gentleman.
He deserves more respect
Read this: http://www.news.com.au/sport/football/humble-alessandro-del-piero-a-true-believer/story-fndkzvnd-1226545090987
February 1st 2013 @ 11:08am
Paul said | February 1st 2013 @ 11:08am | Report comment
Mate this isn’t a forum, please be more professional. CCM’s implosion in 2011 isn’t necessarily a yardstick for the team now. Never say never, as they say.
February 1st 2013 @ 8:51pm
Beardan said | February 1st 2013 @ 8:51pm | Report comment
Never. Bunch of chokers.
January 28th 2013 @ 9:37pm
Brandon said | January 28th 2013 @ 9:37pm | Report comment
This is the biggest load of crap i have ever read. Adp has a bas attitude? Wow now thats a statement, the guy was hacked probably 5-6 times by victory players and cops a stupid yellow which should never had been given. This is pathetic journalism and is just the writings of some havk who is trying to make a story out of nothing
January 29th 2013 @ 2:21pm
Beardan said | January 29th 2013 @ 2:21pm | Report comment
Yes he was hacked and cops more than most, but if your the competitions big gun you are going to expect the extra attention. His yellow was deserved. Just because he was waving his arms around Italian style doesnt mean he didnt deserve it. I’ll give you a yellow for this reply.
January 28th 2013 @ 9:52pm
Tristan said | January 28th 2013 @ 9:52pm | Report comment
Del Piero is here to win, his passion reflects that. Not that of a whinger. After training he stays back every day to sign mountains of autographs, not at all what I consider a poor attitude.
That aside, he has every right to be fired up after the inconsistent refereeing that night. Nobody will respect a referee who does a poor job, no matter what club you’ve played for. Fair enough criticise Sydneys performance, but don’t label the only player showing any heart as a whinger, someone who rejected some big offers to put something into the sport he loves.
I fail to see how you can write the mariners off. No matter what happened however many years ago, they look the most likely team to win it. Losing a final doesn’t condemn you to failure.
January 29th 2013 @ 2:23pm
Beardan said | January 29th 2013 @ 2:23pm | Report comment
I didnt only point out ADP’s whinging. What about McFlynn who was even worse and Joel Grifffiths, who has been there for 5 minutes. They, like ADP, were both disgraceful and disrespectful. Losing a final doesnt condemn you to failure, but losing 3 grand finals condemns you to being a choker im afraid.
January 29th 2013 @ 1:36pm
langou said | January 29th 2013 @ 1:36pm | Report comment
Hi Beardan,
Interesting article
I actually do agree with you about Del Piero. On one hand when he speaks he is humble and quite a positive person, however he does carry on a bit on the field and spends most the game yelling at the referees. There was also that time he stormed off the pitch without shaking hands with the opposition and without waiting for teammates. I think we are so grateful to have him hear that everyone is reluctant to say anything.
As for title contenders, I find it hard to see Adelaide bouncing back after the week they have had but I wouldn’t rule out CCM. The new final series gives a much bigger advantage to the minor premiers (should they be able to hang on)as it guarantees them a home final if they are able to make it. I think CCM should be able to break their duck.
January 29th 2013 @ 2:14pm
Beardan said | January 29th 2013 @ 2:14pm | Report comment
You are not a guru for nothing langou. Right on the money about ADP. He has been good off the field and getting him to the A-League in my opinion has been excellent but his petulant bahavior on the weekend and at other times has been embarrassing and poor. Some people, like some of those comments above, see and hear what they want. They turn a blind eye to the whinging because its ADP.
January 29th 2013 @ 9:21pm
EdoH said | January 29th 2013 @ 9:21pm | Report comment
Don’t destroy golden goos that lays golden eggs, in ALeague that is reaching great times. Only enemies of the great game would be negative of it and it’s best proponent ADP. I was at the game in Melbourne, and even Victory supporters next to me were saying; “I love him” I think we should all love him and be for ever grateful that he is here.
January 29th 2013 @ 10:12pm
Garcia said | January 29th 2013 @ 10:12pm | Report comment
Real Victory supporters showed their affection for ADP another way https://twitter.com/imnowtweeting/status/295498380954714114/photo/1/large
January 30th 2013 @ 2:39pm
RBA074 said | January 30th 2013 @ 2:39pm | Report comment
This blog is already a candidate for worst sports article of the year.
January 30th 2013 @ 8:07pm
Beardan said | January 30th 2013 @ 8:07pm | Report comment
You must be a Sydney FC fan not knowing quality (WSW) when you see it.
February 1st 2013 @ 5:38pm
RBA074 said | February 1st 2013 @ 5:38pm | Report comment
No not a sydney fc fan, just a guy who read your article and didnt agree with anything you raised. Yes Sydney fc have been extremely poor this season and that again was shown against mel victory. But they’ve been poor due to footballing reasons such as a lack of quality in vital positions, a poor pre season which saw them way behind the rest of the field, a general inability to maintain possession when pressured. Compared to teams like the CC, WSW and the victory, Sydney resemble a state league side. If anything its the competitive spirit of the playing group that has seen a slight improvement in some of their performances as evidenced with some of their recent fightbacks. To say its their attitude thats their major problem is laughable, their major problem is they just arent good enough to get results against the cream of the comp!
February 1st 2013 @ 8:49pm
Beardan said | February 1st 2013 @ 8:49pm | Report comment
Maybe you need to check out how many fouls they commited in last weeks game and how many players they finished with and then come back to me about their poor attitude. You jibberer.
February 2nd 2013 @ 7:46pm
RBA074 said | February 2nd 2013 @ 7:46pm | Report comment
Ahh Always the way cant put forward a decent football argument so then it turns personal! If your going post opinions online, be prepared to accept that not everyones going to like it. Better luck with your next article!
February 4th 2013 @ 9:30pm
beardan said | February 4th 2013 @ 9:30pm | Report comment
Did you notice that Joel griffiths is suspended, mcflynn suspended, kalac suspended. You should apologies but your too much of a pea heart to do so.