SPIRO: Israel Folau will be a Waratahs and Wallaby star
By Spiro Zavos, 4 Feb 2013 Spiro Zavos is a Roar Expert
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Israel Folau at his Waratahs press conference to announce his signing with rugby union (AAP Image/Paul Miller)
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Minutes after the final whistle of the entertaining friendly between the Melbourne Rebels and the NSW Waratahs, I went across a crowded long room looking down on the ground and asked Rod Macqueen, “What did you think of Israel Folau?”
“A superb performance,” the greatest of the Wallaby coaches and now a director of the Melbourne Rebels told me.
And so it was.
In the opening minutes of the friendly, which was played in four 20 minutes sessions, Folau got the ball about 10m from the Rebels tryline.
He turned the chance of a try into a certainty with some brilliant play. He took a pass under pressure and surrounded by defenders.
He spun and twisted out of tackles. He bumped through another attempted tackle.
And then he hurled himself through a couple more defenders to plant the ball triumphantly across the line.
He was immediately swamped by his excited, jubilant Waratahs teammates.
Later on in the match, Folau scored another strong try. He made the final pass for another try and was strong in the air. He was also impressive in the way he placed and presented the ball after he was tackled.
The main fault in his game right now is that he doesn’t quite understand what to do at the ruck and mauls.
I noticed early on how he tended to dive over the ruck and lie on the ground, instead of holding his feet and engaging with the opposition ruckers.
He was eventually given a yellow card by the excellent referee, Angus Gardner, for not rolling away.
The mauling aspect of rugby will come quickly enough to Folau, I would think.
When it does he will be the sort of big outside back/fullback Australian rugby has been looking for since the days of Joe Roff.
My guess is that he will be an ideal, the ideal, addition to the Wallabies, probably as a winger in the coming Test series against the British and Irish Lions.
The Waratahs, too, under their new coach Michael Cheika, look like a different side from the sullen, negative and passionless teams of the last few years.
They were enthusiastic, fit, had lots of plays and were very strong with the ball in hand. A couple of new players took the eye, aside from Folau.
Cam Crawford, who has had one game for the Brumbies and playing out of the Northern Suburbs club, showed plenty of size and pace on the wing.
On the side of the scrum, AJ Gilbert (Dorrigo High School and Nothern Suburbs) looked to be a lively, confrontational number seven.
I presume it was Gilbert because there was no list with the players on it. I’m going from the looks of the player on the field and a photo of him (presumably) in a very fine match program.
The main weakness I saw in his play was a tendency to lose the ball trying to unload in the tackle.
In the first quarter of the match, the Waratahs were penalised frequently at the ruck and maul.
It was explained to me that Cheika had given his players the instruction to play to the limits (and beyond) of the laws and then pull back when the players worked out what the referee would allow and not allow.
This was interesting because Macqueen had told a group of Rebel supporters at a fine lunch at Meadowbank Estate (journalists have to have some pleasures, too) before the match that a lot of work had gone into honing the rucking and mauling techniques of the Rebels.
At training, the work in this area looked promising. But, as Macqueen pointed out, the test was how the technique would hold up under what was certain to be an assault by the Waratahs. And this is what happened.
The Waratahs did show a lot of the expected mongrel with their tackles and rucking. The Rebels did well, despite the assault.
They did even better in the set pieces, with a good lineout (except for a couple of lost long-throws) and an even better scrum.
With Kurtley Beale resting, the Rebels lacked a bit of spark in the backs. Their big centres didn’t make a lot of impression on the Waratahs defensive line.
As their coach, Damien Hill, pointed out, the Rebels lost possession or made mistakes eight times in the match when they were within five metres of the Waratahs tryline. This is correct.
The 24-16 scoreline in favour of New South Wales could have been markedly different if some of the chances, even a couple of them had been converted.
The Rebels look like they will be a tenacious side and especially hard to beat at home. They are fit following some sessions with the Storm.
Their set pieces are good. There is a good spirit in the franchise, on and off the field.
I spent most of match day with Rebel management, supporters and sponsors. They were gracious and enthusiastic.
It was a fine experience for a journalist to hear what is happening in the franchise and what the hopes are for the future.
Dr Arnold, the famous rector of Rugby School at the time of ‘Tom Brown’s School Days’ was an inveterate traveller.
As soon as term finished, Dr Arnold had his horse and carriage brought around so he could start yet another trip to the Europe.
I always think this touring mentality has become part of the DNA of the rugby game. It is one of the game’s most pleasurable characteristics.
It was in this spirit of touring that we (wife Judy) booked ourselves a four-day stay in Hobart which gave us the chance to go twice to the literally fantastic museum MONA.
Our hotel provided excellent service and was close to the waterfront and its attractions.
One of the staff told us on the Saturday that she was going to the rugby with her boyfriend. Afterwards, she said she had a great time and was pleased that her team, the Waratahs, won the match.
The local television channel ran an item on its 6 o’clock news about rugymania in Hobart, and the huge success of the rugby.
The crowd was around 9,000 (not a great deal less than the Storm – Broncos match last year). Even the Premier was in the VIP room watching the match.
The Rebels – Waratahs match and its promotion was organised by the North Hobart Football Club. The club is 131 years old.
Its ground is an old-fashioned masterpiece of terraces, a couple of old stands and a more modern (I would guess the 1970s) triple-decker stand with a long room with massive glass windows overlooking a splendidly grassed and marked out field.
The Rebels spent from Wednesday promoting the ‘rugbymania’ in an AFL citadel of a city. The promotion was a credit to the North Hobart Football Club promoters and to the Rebels franchise.
The opportunity to mix the joy of watching two good rugby teams showing their stuff and discover an interesting city proved to be a great way to start what is going to be a memorable year of rugby and touring.
And from a rugby writer’s perspective, there is a great deal of pleasure being able to witness the beginning of Israel Folau’s professional rugby career and the possibility that I (and the other 9,000 spectators) may have winessed the first eruption of a potentially great player.
Spiro Zavos, a founding writer on The Roar, was long time editorial writer on the Sydney Morning Herald, where he started a rugby column that has run for nearly 30 years. Spiro has written 12 books: fiction, biography, politics and histories of Australian, New Zealand, British and South African rugby. He is regarded as one of the foremost writers on rugby throughout the world.
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February 4th 2013 @ 7:00am
Kane said | February 4th 2013 @ 7:00am | Report comment
If I was British I would give my left leg to see Israel make the Wallabies for the upcoming tour.
February 4th 2013 @ 7:43am
p.Tah said | February 4th 2013 @ 7:43am | Report comment
That’s going to make it challenging if it’s standing room only at the Lions games.
February 4th 2013 @ 5:29pm
biltongbek said | February 4th 2013 @ 5:29pm | Report comment
Easy, he’ll change his name to Ilene.
February 5th 2013 @ 11:40am
Kane said | February 5th 2013 @ 11:40am | Report comment
Eifel?
February 4th 2013 @ 7:03am
Sailosi said | February 4th 2013 @ 7:03am | Report comment
A tad premature. Many of the players in this trial were amateurs or semi pro.
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February 4th 2013 @ 7:09am
mania said | February 4th 2013 @ 7:09am | Report comment
good to hear izzy is progressing well. but i still cant understand the hype at tah’s . its the forwards that win and lose u the game.
February 4th 2013 @ 10:45am
Blinky Bill of Bellingen said | February 4th 2013 @ 10:45am | Report comment
Is there hype at the Tahs?
Journo’s, as you’d expect, are beating things up a bit but I’d reckon the Tah’s are keeping it real.
Get over to Fox Sports and see for yourself what Cheika had to say about the forwards as well as the backs. Seems pretty grounded to me.
February 4th 2013 @ 10:48am
jameswm said | February 4th 2013 @ 10:48am | Report comment
The forwards aren’t the Waratahs’ problem.
February 4th 2013 @ 11:12am
mania said | February 4th 2013 @ 11:12am | Report comment
i disagree jameswm – with the forwards that tahs have they should be dominating the aus derby scrums. what i saw last year was tah’s winning their own ball, but not always comfortably. scrum was an attacking platform as all energyies was going into making it stable.
i will admit tho that i hardly ever watched a full game of the aus derby’s and by the 2nd half i didnt watch any if i could help it.
February 4th 2013 @ 1:35pm
Hightackle said | February 4th 2013 @ 1:35pm | Report comment
If the forwards win the game then why are there not 15 forwards on a team?
The reason is that that saying is completely untrue.
February 4th 2013 @ 1:53pm
Bearfax said | February 4th 2013 @ 1:53pm | Report comment
No I wont have that. Someone is lying on the forums. Disgraceful
February 4th 2013 @ 3:07pm
PeterK said | February 4th 2013 @ 3:07pm | Report comment
agree with you there.
Many a time the forwards have been shaded and the backs won it for them.
Historically the wallaby forwards were luck to get 35-40% of the ball but the amazing backs still won the game.
February 5th 2013 @ 1:11am
Hightackle said | February 5th 2013 @ 1:11am | Report comment
Peter its clear Mania hasnt actually thought about it otherwise he would realise thay the 3rd ranked team in the world has about the 5th-7th strongest forwards (imo).
He obviously thinks the goal kicking and back play dont win games. Sounds dumb but hes that sure he is getting insulting.
February 4th 2013 @ 5:13pm
mania said | February 4th 2013 @ 5:13pm | Report comment
wow HT u know nothing about playying rugby
February 4th 2013 @ 11:23pm
jeremy said | February 4th 2013 @ 11:23pm | Report comment
Mania I dont think you like rugby…..
February 5th 2013 @ 12:49am
Hightackle said | February 5th 2013 @ 12:49am | Report comment
Wow mania you dont think much and just spew cliches.
Both are just as important. Thats why a team needs both. If forwards win the game, why are there not 15 forwards genius? Becuz its BS thats why. Use your brain instead of coughing up cliches Mania.
February 5th 2013 @ 12:54am
Hightackle said | February 5th 2013 @ 12:54am | Report comment
Mania if you think forwards win games and the backs are just there for show Im 100% sure you have no clue about rugby becuz its just plain wrong. Im 100%positive on this and if you knew the slightest thing about rugby you would know that every player is important and Dan Carter is just as important as any forward in NZs team.
But it seems you dont think mania. Try it, then talk.
February 5th 2013 @ 4:55am
mania said | February 5th 2013 @ 4:55am | Report comment
save me from your talking sht HT. u pontificate what an expert u are and no else knows better than u. no wonder u get modded so often and vilified on here. its a bs filter and ur clogging it up
backs vs forwards, whose the most important?
February 5th 2013 @ 5:17am
Hightackle said | February 5th 2013 @ 5:17am | Report comment
Whos claiming to be the expert?
You told me I know nothing and also claimed that forwards win games.
To me that sounds like you have your hand firmly wraped around it and think you know more than most.
Neither are more important and thats why a team has both becuz a team needs both. Thats not rocket science mania, look at the team structure, the team consists of both becuz both are important and needed.
Do you think a team is made up of backs and forwards for sh#ts and giggles?
Id like to see how a team of forwards would go against a balanced team of backs and forwards. Who would you pick with all your rugby wisdom Mania, the team made up of just forwards? I can just imagine the prop kicking for territory and slotting a drop goal.
Pffft, rugby players win games, not exclusively rugby forwards. Why the hell do you think backs exist if they dont help win the game? Like I said, neither are more important becuz without one or the other, your team isnt winning a thing.
February 5th 2013 @ 5:18am
mania said | February 5th 2013 @ 5:18am | Report comment
HT ignorant much? what your talking smells funny
February 5th 2013 @ 5:30am
Hightackle said | February 5th 2013 @ 5:30am | Report comment
Yeah saying forwards win games isnt ignorant.
Mania you are the ignorant one here spouting hate and insults whilst claiming backs are 2nd rate rugby players. Now thats ignorant.
You do know what that word means dont you?
Keep the insults up mania, I love that you cant handle it and are throwing a hissy fit.
Im comfortable with my stance that a team needs both forwards and backs to win. I thought that was obvious but not to rugby experts like mania the hissy fit guru.
February 5th 2013 @ 5:34am
Hightackle said | February 5th 2013 @ 5:34am | Report comment
Tell me how the 5 sec rule is going to kick in all of a sudden a ruin rugby …in your expert opinion.
I wouldnt worry though, the halfback isnt a forward and as you pointed out, forwards win games.
February 5th 2013 @ 5:35am
mania said | February 5th 2013 @ 5:35am | Report comment
wow u just make any sht up that suits u. since when did i say that backs are 2nd rate? since when did i say u dont need backs to win? again talking sht. luckily your opinion doesnt mean sht.
handle the jandal. again your having a cry and denouncing anyone that doesnt agree with u.
close minded and ignorant much?
5 sec rule ? since when has it been mentioned in this article? try and stay focussed.
February 5th 2013 @ 1:34pm
RebelRanger said | February 5th 2013 @ 1:34pm | Report comment
Tell that to the guys hiring at the Rebels
February 4th 2013 @ 8:06am
allblackfan said | February 4th 2013 @ 8:06am | Report comment
I was impressed by the size of the crowd
February 4th 2013 @ 9:28am
Working Class rugger said | February 4th 2013 @ 9:28am | Report comment
I was actually shocked by the size of the crowd. Great to see. Would like to see the Rebels really look to develop Tasmania as a catchment area and begin to engage the state more and more. From the anecdotal evidence of the trial there certainly appears to be a potential market for the game in the Apple Isle.
February 4th 2013 @ 9:33am
Justin2 said | February 4th 2013 @ 9:33am | Report comment
They need to have Melbourne support them more yet, Tasmania is a secondary thought at best
February 4th 2013 @ 1:52pm
Working Class Rugger said | February 4th 2013 @ 1:52pm | Report comment
Fine. Let the Tahs work with Tasmania. I certainly wouldn’t mind getting those 10,000 fans on the Tahs bandwagon.
February 4th 2013 @ 3:17pm
Christo the Daddyo said | February 4th 2013 @ 3:17pm | Report comment
There’s a bandwagon?
That usually doesn’t happen until after a couple of early wins that tease about a successful Tahs season. That enables us all to jump off the bandwagon during the inevitable second half of the season collapse.
February 4th 2013 @ 5:22pm
Justin2 said | February 4th 2013 @ 5:22pm | Report comment
Not saying it isnt worth pursuing but they need to firm up the team in there home town first. They cant offer tassie too much at this point except a trial or two.
February 4th 2013 @ 8:51pm
AndyS said | February 4th 2013 @ 8:51pm | Report comment
It’s the Wallabies should be working with Tasmania, holding their camps there. At least they might develop some cold and wet weather skill that way, instead of sunning it up while training for a winter sport.
February 4th 2013 @ 10:52pm
dcnz said | February 4th 2013 @ 10:52pm | Report comment
There was a story in the local inner west courier about cheika and co doing a skills session with the drummoyne rugby club. thats what the Tahs need to do more of!
February 4th 2013 @ 12:27pm
Tigranes said | February 4th 2013 @ 12:27pm | Report comment
so rugby has drawn a bigger crowd than the A-League games played in Tas?????
February 4th 2013 @ 8:44am
Will Sinclair said | February 4th 2013 @ 8:44am | Report comment
Heard Adam Frier on the radio this morning talking about Izzy, the Tahs and the game in general and he was equally effusive.
Great to hear it was a success – 10,000 people! Hopefully the ARU can send a meaningful game to Hobart at some point.
It’s still clear that rugby will have it’s work cut out getting positive air time again this season – just after Frier finished talking up Izzy, the two radio DJs who were interviewing him came out with: ” He should obviously be playing for Parramatta in the NRL though. But I guess that’s another story.”
Getting the NRL cheerleaders to change their tune is going to be tough.
February 4th 2013 @ 9:07am
josh said | February 4th 2013 @ 9:07am | Report comment
Union must be an easy game to play.
February 4th 2013 @ 9:56am
Redb said | February 4th 2013 @ 9:56am | Report comment
Josh,
Does seem that way. Or at least Folau is unable to shake his history and needs to be fed the ball.
February 4th 2013 @ 12:17pm
Justin2 said | February 4th 2013 @ 12:17pm | Report comment
You walked into that one RedB – league is a puss easy game to play v Union. Me thinks Joshy boy is either a leagueie of AFL lad.
February 4th 2013 @ 12:23pm
josh said | February 4th 2013 @ 12:23pm | Report comment
AFL
February 4th 2013 @ 12:25pm
mania said | February 4th 2013 @ 12:25pm | Report comment
yes josh, union is the easiest game to play on the planet. u run fall down get up and run again.
February 4th 2013 @ 12:29pm
josh said | February 4th 2013 @ 12:29pm | Report comment
The dig was mainly at Folau’s capacity to learn.
February 4th 2013 @ 12:31pm
mania said | February 4th 2013 @ 12:31pm | Report comment
o, sorry totally missed that one
February 4th 2013 @ 2:14pm
Redb said | February 4th 2013 @ 2:14pm | Report comment
Justin2,
Not really. I don’t think union is easy and certainly not at the elite level. My point is Folau is not as talented as some beleive, he couldn’t adjust to AFL at all. Compare him to Karmichael Hunt and it’s clear who is the better all round athlete.
Being fed the ball and finding your own separates the boys from the men.
February 4th 2013 @ 5:32pm
Justin2 said | February 4th 2013 @ 5:32pm | Report comment
Agree with that Red, no doubt Hunt is a better “sportsmen” from what I have seen.
February 4th 2013 @ 9:22pm
Malo said | February 4th 2013 @ 9:22pm | Report comment
Karmichael Hunt would not be that good at union, is he that good at AFL? I think the Suns still probably win about one or two games a season, so i dont think Hunt and co have that much of a positive impact. Izzy was always going to excel in rugby. Spiro has no idea, wing would be the worst position for him . I believe the centres is where he will excel, with fullback a possibility. Tahs will definitely go a lot better. Brumbies or tahs to top conference. This better sportsman idea is bs, Just cause QC will probably fight a hack and play crap when he goes to ARL does not make him a great sportsman cause he has played 3 codes. KH is no better athlete cause he has played two sports than someone who excels at league and stays in one sport.
February 4th 2013 @ 11:40pm
Bear said | February 4th 2013 @ 11:40pm | Report comment
No good at union?? With his union background i hope he would be good at union. You don’t go through the Churchie system if u aren’t any good at Union. Didn’t he play flyhalf in the cup final in france. (In his first season. Id say that makes him a pretty handy rugby union player.
February 5th 2013 @ 6:28am
Toa said | February 5th 2013 @ 6:28am | Report comment
Agree with Redb,
Malo, a little bit of research might help.
In his 1st Rugby season at schoolboy level K made an Instant impact. His 2nd year assisted Churchie to a GPS championship & went on to win the Bob Templeton Medal furthermore the same year was awarded Player of the Series at the National Rugby league Schoolboy carnival. He went to France again made an impact as a reward assisted Biarritz to the Heineken Cup final & pick up the MOM award in a losing team. All this by fast tracking himself to speak French, playing at 10 & finally doing it in 6mths.
When Israel made the switch to AFL I backed him to succeed, admittedly like yourself and didn’t perform any research. Israel’s highlights got the better of me & I’d refuse to listen to the critics claiming both his defensive & fitness levels were poor. His RL attacking skills were limited in AFL due to his defensive & fitness deficiencies which reflected his inability to process information. As its taking me so long to realise Israel natural talent has its limits the AFL stint pays homage to that fact.
February 5th 2013 @ 10:04am
Redb said | February 5th 2013 @ 10:04am | Report comment
Spot on Toa, decision making skills are critical, Folau is a more an instinct run in a straight line type player.
February 4th 2013 @ 12:11pm
soapit said | February 4th 2013 @ 12:11pm | Report comment
yeah he was never able to score tries in trial matches in league was he.
February 4th 2013 @ 9:22am
AussiKiwi said | February 4th 2013 @ 9:22am | Report comment
I am torn between excitement that the Waratahs (whom I don’t support!) could have their own SBW, a brilliant match winner that anyone would pay to see, and concern that there will be too much pressure on Folau with all the hype that is going on. As others have pointed out, it took SBW a few seasons in union to become that matchwinner.
February 4th 2013 @ 9:42am
Harry said | February 4th 2013 @ 9:42am | Report comment
Ah but it wouldn’t be February without some OTT Tah player hyping. Watch out if the Tahs win their first couple of games (they generally start well) Spiro and the rest of them will go beserk …
February 4th 2013 @ 9:51am
Kane said | February 4th 2013 @ 9:51am | Report comment
Fully agree also like to point out that SBW spent his first two years of union outside of Johnny Wilkinson who I believe is the 2nd best 1st 5 ever and then spent a year outside Dan Carter who I believe is the best 1st 5 ever.
I just don’t see Israel, (who isn’t even the best Israel in world rugby) getting that kind of support.
February 4th 2013 @ 12:15pm
soapit said | February 4th 2013 @ 12:15pm | Report comment
sbw also never really played in the backs in league and then wanted to play inside centre in rugby. that shift is a lot more drastic then folau whos got experience as a back and is only going to fullback and wing these days (though i hope he maybe could be 13 one day, we’ve already got plenty of wingers).
February 4th 2013 @ 12:23pm
mania said | February 4th 2013 @ 12:23pm | Report comment
SBW had no choice but to play 12 or 13. too slow for wings not enough skill to play 15, 10 or 9. not enough time to teach him how to play in the forwards.
as long as he had good support in 10 and 13 SBW was most suited to 12.
February 4th 2013 @ 12:30pm
soapit said | February 4th 2013 @ 12:30pm | Report comment
i thought my choice of words might get me in trouble there. point is for whatever reaosn he went to 12 from second row which is a much more difficult transition.
February 4th 2013 @ 12:13pm
soapit said | February 4th 2013 @ 12:13pm | Report comment
dont worry about the pressure. he’s just come back from a foriegn code being focused on how poorly he’s doing for 2 years. this will feel like a holiday fo rhim finaly doing something he (mostly) understands
February 4th 2013 @ 9:35am
Harry said | February 4th 2013 @ 9:35am | Report comment
Great report.
And a lovely example of February Tahs hyping …
February 4th 2013 @ 12:34pm
Mals said | February 4th 2013 @ 12:34pm | Report comment
Yes, it makes a nice change from the usual February Reds hyping.
February 4th 2013 @ 10:09am
Johnno said | February 4th 2013 @ 10:09am | Report comment
Good for rugby. Tasmania needs a team in the 3rd-tier ARC, when it’s launched. Tassy’s love there rugby, and have a long rugby culture. Let’s get them into rugby. Tasmania is like Canbera, a good base to develop players.
And close to Melbourne, Tasmanian are starved of pro sports team’s, and need a 3rd-tier rugby team if the ARC happens.
Build the Base Tasmania, like the lovely Tasmanian Apples, for delicous Apple cider.
And guys, everyone settle down on Folau. It was a trial game, with trial rules (unlimited interchange, squad testing,position testing).
A trial in Tasmania, is along way from a series decider Lions match in Sydney in front of 80,000 fans.
February 4th 2013 @ 10:21am
Millz said | February 4th 2013 @ 10:21am | Report comment
Johnno, as someone who lived in Hobart for three years and played in the local rugby comp for three seasons, I strongly disagree that Tasmanians love Rugby. Most of the guys I worked with wouldn’t know the difference between league and union.
Rugby in Tassie is a niche market at best. The state team would play WA and Victoria and get pummelled by 100 points. Best you can hope for is some of the clubs to be a feeder club for a few players to the Rebels, although I doubt if there would be more than 1 or 2 who would be Super 15 level.
February 4th 2013 @ 2:12pm
kingplaymaker said | February 4th 2013 @ 2:12pm | Report comment
Millz although on the other hand for much of the year there isn’t an elite sporting team to watch at all.
February 4th 2013 @ 2:20pm
Redb said | February 4th 2013 @ 2:20pm | Report comment
KPM,
Not true. Hawthorn play 4 games in Launceston every year, North Melb play 2 games in Hobart for premiership points not one-off trials/practice games.
In cricket of course they compete in the Shield and BBL.
February 4th 2013 @ 2:31pm
kingplaymaker said | February 4th 2013 @ 2:31pm | Report comment
Redb yes but in winter they have no regular elite team. Whether they’re that interested in rugby or not any rugby team would effectively have no competition?
February 4th 2013 @ 2:45pm
Redb said | February 4th 2013 @ 2:45pm | Report comment
I think its too small for either of the rugby codes.
Think of the Rebels in Melbourne and the level of support then divide by at least 5. Very small market.
Those AFL teams would still be playing 6 games there and its likely to increase in the next 3-4 years. A relocation is a possibility in 5 years or their own team.
February 4th 2013 @ 2:56pm
kingplaymaker said | February 4th 2013 @ 2:56pm | Report comment
True Redb, but in Melbourne there are 11 AFL teams and an NRL team.
In Tasmania aside from a handful of visiting AFL matches there is nothing in winter. Something of an open goal maybe.
February 4th 2013 @ 3:31pm
Redb said | February 4th 2013 @ 3:31pm | Report comment
Good with it KPM. Can’t see it myself.
February 4th 2013 @ 3:40pm
Bearfax said | February 4th 2013 @ 3:40pm | Report comment
Look Melbournites will watch two flies climbing a wall, even if they’re both dead.
February 4th 2013 @ 3:47pm
Mango Jack said | February 4th 2013 @ 3:47pm | Report comment
Firstly, it’s a small, pretty static market. Secondly, it’s AFL territory. As Redb pointed out, Hawthorn and Nth Melbourne play regular season games there. Tassie has provided many players in the VFL/AFL over the years (Mathew Wade’s dad played for the Hawks). Rugby would be wasting its time there.
February 4th 2013 @ 3:50pm
kingplaymaker said | February 4th 2013 @ 3:50pm | Report comment
Mango Jack sure but only 6 in the whole winter.
According to normal standards it’s not a place for rugby in that they all play AFL and it’s small, but yet, there is no regular elite winter sporting team……so ZERO regular competition!
February 4th 2013 @ 4:28pm
Redb said | February 4th 2013 @ 4:28pm | Report comment
KPM,
They may not have their own AFL team but most would have a team they follow from the VFL days (pre AFL). It would take a generation to change the natural allegiance and by then I’m sure the AFL will have a greater presence. I’ve been to Tassie on and off for 15 odd years and remember from my from first visit the passion for Richmond, North Melb, etc.
February 4th 2013 @ 4:30pm
Redb said | February 4th 2013 @ 4:30pm | Report comment
Bearfax,
“Look Melbournites will watch two flies climbing a wall, even if they’re both dead.”
An old but very much untrue chestnut as the new teams/franchises in different codes soon find out.
February 4th 2013 @ 5:34pm
Justin2 said | February 4th 2013 @ 5:34pm | Report comment
You guys havent debated KPM before have you
February 5th 2013 @ 9:57am
Redb said | February 5th 2013 @ 9:57am | Report comment
Justin2, not often clearly
February 4th 2013 @ 10:15am
Sam said | February 4th 2013 @ 10:15am | Report comment
Sailosi got it right: many many semi pros on show in Hobart, including Victorian school boy Kemu Valetini who played at fullback instead of Beale. Why is everyone so excited about Folau’s performance? He’s spent two years in afl, losing weight and increasing his aerobix capacity. He should have been the fittest person on the field. Shame the Rebels didn’t plaay Beale, would have loved to see that battle.
February 4th 2013 @ 12:16pm
soapit said | February 4th 2013 @ 12:16pm | Report comment
different type of fitness perhaps?
February 4th 2013 @ 12:19pm
Justin2 said | February 4th 2013 @ 12:19pm | Report comment
Sam how did Kemu go? He is from my old club Quins…
February 4th 2013 @ 6:25pm
Sam said | February 4th 2013 @ 6:25pm | Report comment
Not sure, sorry. I followed the game on a couple of social media streams. He DID get game time but not sure how he went.