Aaron Woods has no back-up plan if Dogs are over salary cap

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    Wests Tigers captain Aaron Woods is adamant he’ll be at Canterbury next season but admits he doesn’t have a back-up plan if salary cap issues ruin the move.

    The NSW prop signed a four-year deal with the Bulldogs in April, but the NRL hasn’t yet registered the contract because of the club’s problems fitting their squad for 2018 under the salary cap.

    NRL club bosses are set to meet this Thursday to discuss next year’s salary cap.

    A stalemate is likely, given clubs are split on the idea of raising the figure from the $9.2 million they were advised to work around in April, to $9.6 million.

    Canterbury skipper James Graham is among the names being mentioned to make way for Woods if need be, and the pair sat side-by-side on Fox Sport’s NRL 360 on Tuesday night.

    Woods awkwardly admitted that he had not spoken to his manager about what would happen if his move to the Bulldogs was denied.

    There’s been some speculation that Woods could remain at the Wests Tigers if the Bulldogs deal turns to dust

    “I’m 100 per cent certain on Canterbury for next season,” Woods said when asked if he had a contingency plan.

    “I haven’t had word from Canterbury or anyone (saying that wasn’t the case).”

    Graham said he felt for all 16 NRL clubs as they waited for confirmation of the new salary cap specifics.

    “With uncertainty around the cap and a lot of stuff written in the media, it depends what you believe,” Graham said of talk he was being shopped around by the Bulldogs.

    “At the minute we’re dealing with a lot of hypotheticals and we might be in that situation (with moving players on). But if the cap’s higher then these players told to move on are now an integral part of the plans. It’s a difficult one to manage.”

    Ideally, Graham hopes to remain at the Bulldogs alongside Woods next season.

    “I’ve got a year left at Canterbury and was hoping to play a few more years there all going well, but I’m not naive enough to think that’s a guarantee,” he said.

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    • August 16th 2017 @ 1:53am
      Gary Harvey said | August 16th 2017 @ 1:53am | ! Report

      Maybe he could sell handbags, his weapon of choice?

    • Roar Guru

      August 16th 2017 @ 7:23am
      Emcie said | August 16th 2017 @ 7:23am | ! Report

      I don’t understand how a player could actually have a backup plan in this situation, it’s not like any club can afford to leave half a million of their cap free for you just in case this club you’ve already committed to can’t take you

      • August 16th 2017 @ 8:33am
        Sean said | August 16th 2017 @ 8:33am | ! Report

        Tigers,Knights and Warriors could.

        But seriously why buy another prop when the bulldogs already have 6 of them. There spine including a average foran is mediocre at best. Be interesting times ahead anyway.

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          August 16th 2017 @ 8:43am
          Emcie said | August 16th 2017 @ 8:43am | ! Report

          Yeah, clubs could afford him, but what club is gonna set aside cap space hoping his deal falls through when they could just go looking for a player on the market and get a guaranteed signing?

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      August 16th 2017 @ 9:17am
      BigJ said | August 16th 2017 @ 9:17am | ! Report

      Centrelink can always fit another one in the cue, ha ha. Its probably where he belongs.

      • August 16th 2017 @ 9:47am
        Oingo Boingo said | August 16th 2017 @ 9:47am | ! Report

        He’s already got the beard , dress him in a white robe and he’d fit right in .

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          August 16th 2017 @ 10:14am
          BigJ said | August 16th 2017 @ 10:14am | ! Report

          Ha ha, one of your better ones there Boingo. I see alot be happening since i been gone.

          • August 16th 2017 @ 10:42am
            Birdy said | August 16th 2017 @ 10:42am | ! Report

            Big J,
            I thought you would have loved Woods at the dogs

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              August 16th 2017 @ 10:50am
              BigJ said | August 16th 2017 @ 10:50am | ! Report

              Hi Birdy mate, how are you. No i have little intesrest in what Woods and the Bulldogs do, i really dont care. Just felt like leaving a smart @rse comment

      • August 16th 2017 @ 10:07am
        Chui said | August 16th 2017 @ 10:07am | ! Report

        He’d probably suggest the far queue for yourself 😉

    • August 16th 2017 @ 9:42am
      curaeus said | August 16th 2017 @ 9:42am | ! Report

      Tigers will get him and Dogs will have to pick up the difference between what they were going to pay him and what the Tigers are offering.

      • August 16th 2017 @ 10:10am
        Chui said | August 16th 2017 @ 10:10am | ! Report

        I wonder if this is a possibility.

        He signed a contract with someone assuming they are in a position to afford him, then finds out they weren’t. I assume the Bulldogs are up for the difference in what he doesn’t earn.

        You gotta love it where clubs were told to base everything on 9.2M, but some go higher and now want salary cap relief.

        • August 16th 2017 @ 11:25am
          mushi said | August 16th 2017 @ 11:25am | ! Report

          I imaigne there is a condition that the contract is registered by the NRL.

          • August 17th 2017 @ 5:13pm
            The Spectator said | August 17th 2017 @ 5:13pm | ! Report

            NRL haven’t cleared any contracts that have been lodged this yr, there at hq waiting on cap drama to be finalised, best case, everyone gets what they wanted in club land, worst case, alot of players unemployed for a yr.

    • August 16th 2017 @ 10:22am
      Mad Magpie Rob said | August 16th 2017 @ 10:22am | ! Report

      What a truly dopey situation. How did this ever come to pass? What are these incredibly stupid clubs thinking? I would have thought a conservative approach would have been best when working on the cap for next year until something is etched out in stone from the NRL. Then these guys go into talks twice with the NRL to try and justify their stupidity and give them an unfair advantage over every other club that will need to recruit within a cap.
      Even with Woods and Foran coming, I can’t see how that would dramatically improve their current performance, although stranger things have happened.
      But to now be in a situation where they are desperately trying to offload players is just ludicrous. Not that I’m not enjoying this, couldn’t happen to a nicer club. Used to love them in the 80’s but ever since the dog act of Bullfrog in the Super League War, well let’s just say they’re up there on my “favourites” list alongside the silvertails.

      Best you cut a deal to stay at the Tigers Woodsey.

      • August 16th 2017 @ 11:41am
        Rob said | August 16th 2017 @ 11:41am | ! Report

        If you honestly think that these guys were being recruited from this year then sadly you don’t know much about the situation. Foran has been linked to the club many times over even before going across the Tasman for this season to play with the Warriors.

        All the clubs were told they would have $10million in cap space to play with for this season until early on this year to which it was probably that some of these contracts were already drawn up and being negotiated before handing over to be registered. The JOKE of a profession called the NRL decides to drop it by almost a million dollars then takes for ever to decide on the final outcome. You either have the money to give or you don’t! Which one is it? They obviously have room to move because they expected some negotiations to take place but here we are almost the full season over and still no word and players ready to boycott major events if it doesn’t at least go up to $9.5 million.

        Meanwhile Greenberg is talking about moving into WA with a team but they can’t even manage where their money is going to the point where they were refused a loan and ran at a loss last year…..

        Easy to blame the clubs even though they had some time to adjust but to drop the cap by $1million dollars is a fair amount especially when there is really nothing to show for it when you consider grass roots has pretty much died out.

        • August 16th 2017 @ 2:16pm
          Mad Magpie Rob said | August 16th 2017 @ 2:16pm | ! Report

          Sorry champ. Don’t know where you are getting your “facts” from, but I can’t find a single article that shows the NRL were saying 10 million is the golden number for the cap? Makes sense – Why else would the Dogs go to the NRL with hat in hand and tail between their legs asking for special consideration rather than kicking the door down and demanding compensation. The only organisation talking about 10 mil is the rotten crooked players association who seem to think they run the game and can dictate whatever they want. You’re right about the NRL being a joke, but even dumber is an organisation that is betting on a pie in the sky 10 mil figure thrown out there by an organisation who are still trying to learn how to tie their shoe laces and get rid of their Velcro sports shoes, when it’s very very obvious that this figure is unsustainable at this moment in time. Also, not sure what you do for a living, but if I were to expose my organisation to the risk that the Doggie administrators have now positioned their club in, let’s just say my career would definitely take a plummeting nose dive into becoming a busker on the street with my sons guitar and trying to win a few bob on Australia’s Got Talent singing – “I did it my way”.
          I’m not blaming the clubs, just this dopey blue and white one. If I were a player, coming in good faith, to negotiate a deal, I would think any offer presented and documented would have been ratified, vetted and filtered through a process of due diligence to ensure the club can pay it. As a player, I don’t give a single bar of chocolate about the salary cap situation of the club, I’m just interested in what they can offer. But lessons learnt, by Woods who’s got his fingers burnt, is that you need to get your manager to get it in writing that the club is under the salary cap and won’t have a problem registering your contract, otherwise significant penalty payments will need to be forth coming.
          As for grass roots, don’t even get me started on that old chestnut. Suffice to say that currently at my son’s school, he has the option of playing aerial ping pong (VFL Football) or 10 pin bowling. That’s right, no league. Those mugs from the VFL (refuse to call it its current name – Australian FL – As If) have really got their act together and are masterful at making people believe that joke of a game of theirs is better than league. Grass roots – what a joke.

    • August 16th 2017 @ 10:45am
      Birdy said | August 16th 2017 @ 10:45am | ! Report

      Agree Chui
      What if no one picks him up
      Because of cap restrictions
      Can he sue the dogs

      • August 16th 2017 @ 10:48am
        Birdy said | August 16th 2017 @ 10:48am | ! Report

        Can all other players do the same.
        Lawyers licking their chops already

        • August 16th 2017 @ 12:14pm
          AGordon said | August 16th 2017 @ 12:14pm | ! Report

          The contract hasn’t been registered with the NRL, so I assume this means it’s not binding on either party if the NRL refuses to use the right rubber stamp. In other words, Woods can’t sue anyone because there’s no valid contract in place.

          If that’s the case, Woods and more to the point, his manager, will have to find another option, which is the point of the article.

          The bloke who Woods might want to sue is his Manager, if the contract doesn’t work out.

          The Manager is responsible for making sure the player gets the best deal and if he doesn’t, through a manager’s lack of due diligence ( the Manager should have been asking whether Canterbury could afford Woods under their salary cap and got something in writing to that effect), surely the manager’s to blame.

          • August 16th 2017 @ 12:33pm
            Birdy said | August 16th 2017 @ 12:33pm | ! Report

            Love it.
            Love to see a manager get sued.
            The players union should be able to advise the players on good managers bad managers.

            • August 16th 2017 @ 2:28pm
              Mad Magpie Rob said | August 16th 2017 @ 2:28pm | ! Report

              What can I say Bridy, although I agree with you sentiment, and that in my opinion the player managers are a breed of their own with toupees, Hawaiian shirts, and sucking on cheap cigars, leeching off the talent they keep in their stables and making money for nothing, I can’t see the manager to blame here. If in good faith the manager is negotiating a contract for his player, it should never be a part of his role to audit the club he’s been talking to see if they are under the cap. Seriously, NRL themselves actually struggle to get this done correctly. I just think a protective clause within the contract should be enough to ward off any problems for the players themselves.

              • August 16th 2017 @ 6:18pm
                Birdy said | August 16th 2017 @ 6:18pm | ! Report

                Hi Mad Magpie,
                Thats exactly where the players union should step in and oversee player contracts.
                By the way people who fail late in life don’t normally sing ‘ i did it my way ‘
                Its more like ” i did it her way”

            • August 16th 2017 @ 6:31pm
              John said | August 16th 2017 @ 6:31pm | ! Report

              Couldn’t happen to a better manager if woods does end up suing his manager.

          • August 16th 2017 @ 2:09pm
            BleakCity said | August 16th 2017 @ 2:09pm | ! Report

            Just because the NRL hasn’t registered it doesn’t mean it’s not a contract the law doesn’t work like that. Just ask Hopoate.

            • August 16th 2017 @ 2:22pm
              Mad Magpie Rob said | August 16th 2017 @ 2:22pm | ! Report

              Absolutely right BleakCity. The contract is between the Dodgy Dogs and Woods. Although I would venture to say that player manager’s moving forward may now need to include a “Woodsy Clause” with chunky penalties in every contract that would cover the players in the event of any similar situations.

      • August 16th 2017 @ 2:12pm
        no one in particular said | August 16th 2017 @ 2:12pm | ! Report

        He’ll be paid, just can’ tplay

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