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big rugby fan. favourite player would is Isreal dagg. Best match ever was the all blacks/wallabies at the basin reserve in the wet \'97. Score was 47-3 i think.
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This has been the best Super Rugby season since 2003. But it is only going to get better in the coming years; there is…
Only four years to go. Four years until the most important development in rugby since the game turned professional. The Rugby World Cup and…
Having originated from New Zealand, I began my early years following NPC rugby and of course the All Blacks. I think I would've been…
Yes Kingplaymaker one professional team v’s one professional team. and the warriors do have a billionaire owner. The warriors have had a multi millionaire owner for over a decade. NRL teams have raped our young Rugby Union talent for about 30 plus years. I think that the NRL will expand in Australia with it’s fight against the AFL long before it try’s to progress further into NZ. NZ is a very small market I think SKY pays just over 1 million a year for NRL games compared to 200 million in Australia. Rugby Union is only behind the 2 codes you refer to in Australia. In the rest of the world both codes are way behind Rugby Union. One small example is Rugby Union is in the Olympics. Rugby League may get into the Commonwealth games one day and AFL won’t get into either of them.
Super Rugby: Is expansion really the anwer?
Sorry Sheek Aussie isn’t the be all and end all. Super Rugby is an awesome product easily as good if not better then afl and nrl. Rugby Union is a way behind in structure because it has only been professional for 17yrs instead of 100yrs of league.
Australian Rugby has more players in total than what New Zealand has and the only reason they struggle for quality players is because of the league history. In New Zealand we are brought up being able to play a hard but open game close to the gain line whereas in Australia everyone is used to people being 10m back.
For that reason that means you don’t have to think or react as fast so when you meet a country like New Zealand in Rugby you struggle.
Take Sonny as example he was an absolute super star in league from the age of 18/19. He was tearing league defences apart. It has taken him 5 years of training and reconditioning to get to stardom in rugby. That is not to say that he suddenly became the best centre in the game but he was certinly heading that way.
I do agree that Australian rugby is not in great shape at the moment but that is a very short term thing. In the space of 17yrs it has gone through an incredible high up until 2003 and has gone through some very bad lows up until 2008. It is recovering at the moment and still gets good viewership for internationals, qld reds get good crowds (they averaged better then the brocos at suncorp) and it has major teams in all major centers. New Zealand also went through some bad times for a few years but has recovered in an exceptional way.
Sanzar has created a brilliant contest with super rugby and as Australia gets more depth it will get more and more popular. Something that the nrl has done well is not be concerned about the amount of forign players in the comp. I think that there should be 6 super rugby teams in all conferences and not have any restriction on imports. So far the argintinians have been spectacular in the rugby championship, so imagine what they would be like if they had 30 odd players playing in super rugby. With a few Americans, South Americans Canadians, Japanese and Pacific islanders in there it would be even more special. With a few of those countrymen in there play the odd compitition game in those countries and pretty soon you would have a comp worth a few billion a year and Australians would be right behind it.
It is only in Australia that some people think that the Nrl and Afl is the best sporting product. In all other countries Rugby Union comes well before them.
Super Rugby: Is expansion really the anwer?
watching the Manly/Cowboys game and there is so much more skill in Union. Leaguies get so much more space and still look so orfull. Rugby union players do it with so much more pace.
Manly Sea Eagles vs NQ Cowboys: NRL Finals live scores, blog
What a shocker. League players can’t tackle. James try was touch rugby.
Manly Sea Eagles vs NQ Cowboys: NRL Finals live scores, blog
The only way to find out is if they want to go to the Olympics, switch codes a year or two before hand and hope they get selected. Otherwise this is a completely hypothetical argument that can never be proven either way. Although in my own personal opinion they are good league players, it doesn’t mean that they could ever be better in 7’s than the freakish and skillfull Rugby players going around. Super rugby is just as intense as NRL. Test Rugby is more intense, no doubt about that.
Rugby league in the Olympics? Blame it on Rio!
I think they would get smoked by nz 7’s team, they’d also get smoked by SA, Eng, Samoa, Fiji, an Australian team made up of the sport it comes from. Other countries will also give that team a run for their money come 2016 as there is now huge amounts of money going into getting their teams up to speed. I don’t actually think any team has got a garenteed Gold silver or bronze. Can’t wait for 7’s in Rio it is going to be HUGE!!!!!
Rugby league in the Olympics? Blame it on Rio!
guys endgland has over 1 million Rugby players. France has 400,000, SA has over 600,000, USA has over 120,000, Australia has over 130,000, Ireland has over 150.000. Wales has over 65,000, NZ has 130,000. There are still more countries that have more rugby players than NZ yet we are the best. I think oz might have over 150,000 players now. The problem with ozzie is that they play far to robotic, which is a flow on from rugby league.
RATHBONE: Australian rugby lacks depth, but not for long
Thanks Jus de couchon, that is the biggest lol I have ever done.
RATHBONE: Australian rugby lacks depth, but not for long
I’d like to see all of those guys you mentioned come over to rugby. A couple of them would do great. most of them would fumble around for a couple of years and then go back to league saying rugby was boring. In reality they were just crap, seen it lots of times over many years.
McKay vs O’Connell: a rah-rah grills a leaguie
sorry the biggest contest in rugby is at the ruck. It may not be the prettiest but it is there. League has only the kick contest for the ball. rugby has the ruck, scrum, kick, maul. I guess that means no contest between the 2.
McKay vs O’Connell: a rah-rah grills a leaguie
and if you included nz rugby players you would have to add TJ. Conrad, ranger, Nonu. barret, dagg, guildford, fruan, sonny bill, Tikoirotuma, Taylor, Weepu, Carter. And really I could go on and on forever, there are truck loads and truck loads of super rugby players that would make it and push out NRl players. I could think of lots more oz players and heaps more NZ, and SA players, also some argintinians, french, fijian, samoan scots, irish, welsh, players that would also make it in the nrl but I suppose when there is more than 5 million rugby players and less than a million league players you have a lot more options. Not to worry though. Rugby is only going to be in the olympics in 4 years time so that number will only double in the next 10 years. I think the main question might be who will be left in league.
McKay vs O’Connell: a rah-rah grills a leaguie
I would like to see how all of those players would stack up in rugby. I reckon that they would struggle with they lack of time and space. It took one of the greatest league players (sonny bill williams) 4 years to get to the top level of rugby. Benji would be to scared to swap codes(gets it too easy in league even when he stuffs up). Thurston would be ok some of the time. Slater would have moments but would leak too much defensively. Cronk Farah would be good if they went through the sevens programe. Carney would never get offered any sort of contract in rugby.
McKay vs O’Connell: a rah-rah grills a leaguie
Reason why a forward can stay in Rugby longer than league is that you can develop and mature in rugby whereas league forward game is so one dimensional that it can’t last as long as rugby. you can stamp your style to the game in rugby whereas league is one style only.
McKay vs O’Connell: a rah-rah grills a leaguie
you can’t compare the warriors to the storm. Regardless of whatever their head to head record is (which I don’t know and don’t care about) I do know that the melbourne storm is at least twice the team the auckland warriors are.
Match of the Round: Warriors vs Storm
I would say that the crowd would be made up of 40,000+ travelling from qld, nsw, nz, expat qld, nsw, and nz. 5,000+ true victorian’s that already follow the game, and a handful of vic’s that got dragged along. If those handful enjoyed it and will go to another game of origin that is great. In reality though I would hardly say that it is winningconverting the state RL. The Vic govt however will love it with all the tourist dollars that it brings in.
WIZ: Melbourne State of Origin was a winner
There is absolutely no truth in your statement. It is made completely as an I don’t like rugby statement. There is plently of skill, rivalry, depth and passion. You show me any team today that has loyalty from players in an open professional market era. That loyalty only applies to national teams, except for when it comes to league. They swap countries whenever it suits.
Where's the grudge match in rugby?
They should do it in NZ too. FTA games would be great. Just 1 a week and at a decent time.
ARU must follow FFA's free-to-air lead
True it does come down to Getting more playing at junior level. get more clubs out there and get it in more schools. IRB should put more investment in to help the grass roots.
Super Rugby: Is expansion really the anwer?