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The French - When they are uncertain, they are dangerous. When they are certain, they are shit
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Sylvester if you give one team a warning after 2 offenses you should apply it to the other team as well. That is called a fair contest. Where it happened on the park or intentional or not is irrelevant. Stopping momentum is stopping momentum.
Beautiful rugby from All Blacks and Boks
Sylvestor if the referee feels its wrong he can do what he want and he would be right. That is how wide the laws have been written. And the same referee took the game between SA and Scotland. Did you watch the game? If not go have a look
Beautiful rugby from All Blacks and Boks
Show me any international team that concedes 60 penalties in 6 games without getting binned once. There is only one. Guess who?
It's not the injustice that beats us, its the way we respond
Professional fouls are against the spirit of the game. Reason why SA supporters feel unhappy cause the SA players do not get benefit of the doubt. Refs are eager to sound them off for repeated infringements in the first half. When you like a bit closer SA do not have most of the possession but their penalty count is lower than NZ year after year and yet the YC total for breakdown offenses is more for SA yet they conceded less in that area. NZ are allowed to transgress the same laws 6 or 7 times without getting binned where SA would be binned after 2 or 3 times. Not NZ fault but its a good example of the perception of referees and their view on the SA rugby team
Beautiful rugby from All Blacks and Boks
Sylvester irrelevant of the actions. Using is a stiff arm is illegal if the referee feels so. That is laws. Its written in a clever way to make sure officials can’t be much proven wrong.
Beautiful rugby from All Blacks and Boks
Sylvester this is the intended action. BdP on the receiving this time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h8WA9Lasa8
Beautiful rugby from All Blacks and Boks
Atlas thanks for visiting the SA referees site, Good to see that people who accuses SA refs being bias run to their website to back up a statement.
You must understand that SA referees are not attached to SARU and they generate their own income and manage themselves totally speerate. Their aim is to train referees from all over the world and they are busy setting it up. So being proffesional they will choose what they say very carefully and even if it means proving something that is wrong right by clever little tricks. They are not bias and won’t mind standing behind officials even if its against the Springboks. The TMO Penalty try when the Rebels beat the Stormers really showed it as they made little tweaks in the laws they posted and posted half the laws to give the linesman more credibility. In the end SANZAR said the official was wrong and I can assure they feel a bit bad bout it.
So careful using their stuff without looking at the fine print. If you look at their article they apply definitions to proof that BdP was within the laws. Correct.
But they took the neutral road proving neither the referees action right or wrong by just stating the laws and a incident but did not apply the same use of definitions they used so well in the first to 2nd part again.
Rugby law makers are clever. Its called laws cause it can be bend to proof some right. If you look up the definitions of punching and striking you would get a fist and with striking you get about 7 different meanings. Which in fact actually means that if a referee sends you off for anything from handing of a players to bumping him off in a run he is correct as its one of the definitions of striking.
Clever chaps law makers
Beautiful rugby from All Blacks and Boks
Sylvester its easy from the cheap seats mate. Have you ever played rugby where 100kg monsters are looking to run over each other. It looks more gruesome compared to when kids do it. But that what BdP did is done by most players. Its use of forearm to bump of the player and hitting the throat was unintentional
Beautiful rugby from All Blacks and Boks
Who did what 10 years ago 5 years ago 80 years ago or last week is all irelevant. Call what you see. Focus on the clear and obvious and applyit to both sides. When you make a mistake admit it and try harder. Its just human.
But when teams get judged in a game of past actions that is rugby politics at work and the intimidation machine doing its joob.
NZ is not a hard place to win by accident. Almost the whole country play part in a big machine to make it appear as intimidating as possible. Not that they are not friendly or anything its just they put signs and other things up concerning what is going to happen to you when you get on that field. If you can stand up to it you have a chance if not you get crushed.
Rugby is voilence and intimidation. Forcing respect from your opponents where the end result is a beer. BdP tackled the daylights out CArter to see if he knees buckles or he is still as confident as before next time he receives the ball. That is rugby. SA hammered Larkham in Aus glory period in Tri Nations and Larkham stood a bit deeper in the early part of his 10 carreer. But everytime he stood up he got back up and his ability to shake himself off and not let it influence his game was what made him such a great player. The intention is never to deliberately injure someone. Its to shake him up. :ike Carter was a bit shaken up when his pack were getting beaten by England and Tuilagi ran over him.
Players do get hurt in tackles. Just because there is a injury doesn’t make it illegal. He was tackled fairly which is within the laws and I think DC know that it was just unfortunate that he got injured.
The incident with Messam is BdP used his forearm to knock of the tackler in a legal way. It was no intention that he went for Messams throat. He got knocked over with similiar action by Etzebeth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h8WA9Lasa8
A lot of players don’t use their forearms very well but this was a good example. Gear’s try against Ireland last year was another good example. Most Saffa locks are good at it, Whitelock uses his well too.
In the end its International rugby. Its going to be hard and standing up to bigger guys and mean guys is a mental aspect where games are lost and won. Aus do not lack players that are big or strong. They lack players that are mentally up to it and are able to punch above their weight.
Foul play there have been lots of incidents by stupid players doing stupid things. But to make a player do stupid things you have to get under skin first. If he explodes and take a swipe at the oppostion player then that player took one for the team. He can take it he did not get to play at this level for nothing and he survived where others have fail to stand up up to it.
So they do not need supporters to run to the internet feeling like bashing the first Kiwi or Saffer you see. They supported their team with as much passion as you did and vice versa. And NZ did not officiate the game. The French referee did. NZ played the game for 80 minutes and they won. Well done and its not NZ problem or doing with SA ending up with 14 men.
NZ supporters are taking the issue too personal. Its not a attack on NZ. The unhappiness is with the official who spoil a game for millions of rugby fans around the world. Also hard for referees to ignore images on tv or papers that shows what certain players did or so. He might be professional but the human mind once it notice it he is going to look for things which will make him miss others. There is a reason why jurors get placed in a hotel with no news or anything that can influence their judgment. Referees are no different.
It's not the injustice that beats us, its the way we respond
http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/TriNations/IRB-Wessels-made-grave-error-20100804
People are not saying NZ won because of xxxxxxx IE the referee. What they are trying to point out is why officials have a higher tolerant level for NZ than most teams. It really spoils games and I am sure NZ supporters would have felt the same if they were on the other end.
IRB says du Plessis carding a mistake
actually no they play rugby right through the year in Durbs. Durbs is nothing try Pretoria and Johburg
Heineken Cup split a trump card for South Africa's Super Rugby hopes
Deans for rugby, Mickey Arthur in the cricket, looks like you got NZ-SA combo’d!
Should the Wallabies pick overseas talent?
All this is not SA fault. This thing of cutting SA out was Aus idea. SA had to look for alternatives if Aus gets its way.
NZ wouldn’t care less as they got over 90 million from Adidas so they have the cash to follow who ever,
Heineken Cup split a trump card for South Africa's Super Rugby hopes
What hopes? We got SR at home called the Curry Cup,
Heineken Cup split a trump card for South Africa's Super Rugby hopes
Have you considered that the AB play better away from home than at home?
Previewing the siege of Eden Park
homosexuality is illegal in Qatar mate. So stay at home
Australia fourth best team in the southern hemisphere?
At least after the 2022 World Cup, Qatar will have some cracking stadiums to stone women in
Australia fourth best team in the southern hemisphere?
How many of them have relatives in west africa?
Australia fourth best team in the southern hemisphere?
Fred stop making up stories. If it wasn’t for Doc Craven the SA vs NZ rivalry would have ended right there. So a bit of respect. He was furious over Skinner going around blatantly punching people in front of the referee but he never said its why we lost. It just shows a bad name of the Kiwi officials who let the clear and the obvious slip. The Lions also moaned about the Kiwi officials.
But in no way did we ever said we lost because of the officials. That is a Kiwi thing along with the other myths they like to invent when they lose
Previewing the siege of Eden Park
Yes Jerry we played with 14 men if I remember correctly and we scored 3 of those 5 tries in the opening 20 mintues I think. But when we were down to 14 against NZ due to a red card its over as a contest
Previewing the siege of Eden Park
Mike. Why was Bismarck allowed to do what he did? Because of the Aussie not cleaning the ruck or protecting the balll better.
Should Link 'dumb down' game plan?
basic rule of thumb.
Aim to stay behind the ball.
Make sure the ball and the player in your team playing the ball are ahead of you in relation to the opposition goal line.
If not, avoid becoming involved in play.
Should Link 'dumb down' game plan?
Daylight between All Blacks and Springboks